Page last modified 18:17, 9 Apr 2010 by Yakuzza

*The Guardian for this meeting was Yakuzza Lethecus. The comments are by Yakuzza Lethecus.*

Yakuzza Lethecus: hey doug :)

doug Sosa: where are you arriving from?

--BELL--

Yakuzza Lethecus: i was just playing with some german friends and one guy from seattle

doug Sosa: playing... Go... foorball..?

Wol Euler: hello yaku, doug

Wol Euler: hello agatha, please come down and join us :)

Wol Euler: that's ok, you can listen down here too. There's no compulsion to speak :)

Wol Euler: you've been here so often, you're obviously interested...

Wol Euler: hello, welcome

Agatha Macbeth: OW!

Agatha Macbeth: hello

doug Sosa: :)

Wol Euler: you've probably gathered by now, who we are and what we do.

Agatha Macbeth: hello doug

Agatha Macbeth: what am i supposed to do?

Wol Euler: for now, just right-click on a cushion to sit.

doug Sosa: just sit and join our quiet talk/meditation.

Agatha Macbeth: OK

Wol Euler: there's no obligation to speak, many people just listen much of the time

Agatha Macbeth: thanks

Wol Euler: three weeks old, how are you getting on in SL?

Yakuzza Lethecus: hey wol,and agatha

Agatha Macbeth: hi

Yakuzza Lethecus: sry i was getting something to drink :)

Wol Euler: oh, that reminds me! my tea is steeping. brb

doug Sosa: :)

Yakuzza Lethecus: hey eliza

Eliza Madrigal: Hello Agatha (Nice to meet you), Yakuzza, Wol, and doug :)

Agatha Macbeth: than you same 2 u

Agatha Macbeth: that should say thank

Eliza Madrigal: :) Yes no worries, speak typo

Wol Euler: hello eliza

SophiaSharon Larnia: Hi everyone :)

Wol Euler: and hello sophiasharon

Yakuzza Lethecus: hey sophia

Eliza Madrigal: Hi SophiaSharon :)

doug Sosa: :)

Agatha Macbeth: yes

Agatha Macbeth: oh

Agatha Macbeth: what for?

Wol Euler: well, the published record is interesting to members who couldn't be here.

Wol Euler: the group meets four times a day, nobody can make all the sessions

Agatha Macbeth: I see

Wol Euler: it's a way of keeping in touch with what happened in your absence, or while you were asleep

Yakuzza Lethecus: hehe, i was also about to explain that in the IM

Wol Euler: (talking about publishing, I IMed Agatha to ask permission)

Yakuzza Lethecus: but np proceed :)

Wol Euler: it's also quite interesting to look back and see how topics and ideas develop. We've been going for a year and a half, roughly, April 1 of last year

Agatha Macbeth: Whoa

Wol Euler: :)

Wol Euler: if you don't wish to be named, that is fine, we can substitute "Visitor" or something like that.

Wol Euler: (it would in any case only be your SL name)

Agatha Macbeth: I don't mind

Wol Euler smiles. thank you.

Agatha Macbeth: :)

Agatha Macbeth: Er, what's a Guardian?

Wol Euler: generally, one of us.

--BELL--

SophiaSharon Larnia: pardon me, i will be afk for a few minutes

Wol Euler: guardians are members of hte group, genearlly speaking.

Wol Euler: specifically, THE guardian is the person who moderates the meeting (if it is formal, not all are)

Wol Euler: and who edits and publishes the log.

Wol Euler: yakuzza just claimed this session, he's the Guardian now

Yakuzza Lethecus: what would be me today right :)

Eliza Madrigal: :)

Wol Euler: I was just looking at the timetable, isn't it Lia?

Wol Euler: or did she ask for a replacement?

Yakuzza Lethecus: i have this slot now, i donÂ´t know what she is going to pick in the future

Wol Euler: oh, I missed that. I'll change the wiki page.

Eliza Madrigal: So is this your first guardian session Ya?

Yakuzza Lethecus: right

Eliza Madrigal: Nice :)

Yakuzza Lethecus: hmm, at this daytime itÂ´s not that important, there are always guardians around

Yakuzza Lethecus: hmm, at this daytime itÂ´s not that important, there are always guardians around

Yakuzza Lethecus: but when i think about the 7 am slot or the 1 am slot then there is often nobody visiting

Wol Euler nods

Yakuzza Lethecus: so nobody would hand out cookies

Eliza Madrigal smiles

Wol Euler: ah! I just remembered something else that happens, especially on fridays.

SophiaSharon Larnia 's ears prcik up "cookies?"

Eliza Madrigal: hahaha

SophiaSharon Larnia: smiles

Eliza Madrigal: What's that, Wol?

Wol Euler: a little ritual, that starts with a word...

Wol Euler: agatha, that's a bit of harmless fun :)

Wol Euler: you

Wol Euler: you'll find it in your inventory, in the "objects" folder. Right-click and wear it

Agatha Macbeth: What is it?

Yakuzza Lethecus: :)

Wol Euler: you'll see. It's harmless fun, truly.

Wol Euler: a little animation.

Wol Euler: a kind of friday evening ritual

Agatha Macbeth: What's it called?

Yakuzza Lethecus: just wear it :)

Eliza Madrigal: Shake off the stress of the work week

SophiaSharon Larnia: laughs

Wol Euler: the name is "onigokko"

Wol Euler: it

Wol Euler: it's invisible and harmless until somebody says the magic word

Agatha Macbeth: Well, I've done it

SophiaSharon Larnia: that was good Wol, put quotes around it

Wol Euler: mmhmm

Yakuzza Lethecus: onigokko

Wol Euler laughs

Eliza Madrigal: hahaha

Eliza Madrigal: wheee

SophiaSharon Larnia: *giggles*

Wol Euler: if you get dizzy, left-click and hold on the ground

Wol Euler: that will still your camera

SophiaSharon Larnia: breats hard

Yakuzza Lethecus: stop

Agatha Macbeth: What can I say?

SophiaSharon Larnia: whoa! wipes off brow

Yakuzza Lethecus: :)

Wol Euler: we're not always earnest.

Eliza Madrigal: And then you never know... it is like toys when the parents come back into the room

doug Sosa: I close my eyes and you all go crazy (or is it sane?)

Wol Euler: the boundary is fluid, doug.

Yakuzza Lethecus: how much insanity is still sane doug ?

SophiaSharon Larnia: brb again, maybe will be be dancing when Im gone?? hahaha

Eliza Madrigal laughs

doug Sosa: half of one six dozen o the other :)

Eliza Madrigal: still crazy after all these year

Agatha Macbeth: Paul Simon

Eliza Madrigal: ! Yes :)

Wol Euler: mmhmm

Wol Euler: when was that? '75?

doug Sosa: So, is something bothering us? There is for me.

Wol Euler: fire away, doug.

Yakuzza Lethecus: hey qt

doug Sosa: Krugman has an oped in the NYT "its easy being green" but on the same day the WP has an article

doug Sosa: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...092402602.html

Wol Euler: buona sera, qqt

doug Sosa: that says no way to avoid 6 degree heatup. no way.

Qt Core: 'sera Wol

doug Sosa: hi qt.

Eliza Madrigal: HI Qt

SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Qt :)

Wol Euler: different messages for different purposes, perhaps?

SophiaSharon Larnia: maybe it is too late doug, the damage already done

Yakuzza Lethecus: the NYT link ?

Yakuzza Lethecus: because to me it sounded like ,,itÂ´s easy being green" but still 6,3 and if we are not green it goes up by 8.13

doug Sosa: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/25/op...gman.html?_r=1

Qt Core: six feet more sea.... goodbye Venice

--BELL--

doug Sosa: The tao says the univere is not benevolent, it treats humans like strw dos and between heaven and aerth it is a bellows.

SophiaSharon Larnia: yes, much coastline everywhere, undoubtably, storms ... thinking about it is almost unbearable

doug Sosa: strw=straw

Yakuzza Lethecus: hmm, is that the reason why pema is already in the states ? :)

doug Sosa: so i wndered if the dancing was in any way a reation to something similar?

Yakuzza Lethecus: who knows how much of the netherlands will still be :P

SophiaSharon Larnia: i was dancing because it's Friday

Wol Euler: a good reason if ever I heard one.

Eliza Madrigal: yes me too :)

Yakuzza Lethecus: i think we should learn to appreciate everything even the climate change, in fact we have to think about a more just world be being too serious isnÂ´t also an option in my opinion

Eliza Madrigal: yes, goodness forbid we stop dancing and just worry :)

Wol Euler: heheheheh

SophiaSharon Larnia: agrees

Qt Core: i can't really see people in bicycle instead on car as more serious ;-)

SophiaSharon Larnia: ;p

Wol Euler: hello sophia,

Eliza Madrigal: Hi sophia :D

sophia Placebo: hi al

Wol Euler: hi mick

SophiaSharon Larnia: Hi Sophia

Eliza Madrigal: Hi Mick :)

Mickorod Renard: Hiya

SophiaSharon Larnia: Hi Mick

doug Sosa: :)

Agatha Macbeth: Hello

Qt Core: hi Mick, Sophia

Yakuzza Lethecus: we have to see which damage we caused because we caused most of it and we export our production technologies and we import goods produced in countries that arenÂ´t underly our standarts of ecological production

Qt Core: i'm guilty, yesterday i could not resist and buyed a mango... i don't even want to know how many thousamd of km it did before coming home with me

Wol Euler grins

Eliza Madrigal: :)

Wol Euler: like our strawberries that come from Egypt rather than the next valley

Qt Core: (it was good, btw)

Agatha Macbeth: Are mangos the ones with the REALLY big stones?

Qt Core: yes

Agatha Macbeth: I thought so, I like those

Eliza Madrigal: yes MMM

Mickorod Renard: I like cherries

doug Sosa: sory have to go. quietly , ..

arabella Ella: Hiya everyone!

Qt Core: but even just grapes... it come from 1000 from here even if it is still italy quite the voyage

Wol Euler: bye doug

Yakuzza Lethecus: bye doug

SophiaSharon Larnia: bye Doug

Mickorod Renard: Hiya ara

Wol Euler: hello ara

arabella Ella: bye doug

sophia Placebo: bye doug

Agatha Macbeth: C ya Doug

Mickorod Renard: bye Doug

SophiaSharon Larnia: Hi Arabella

sophia Placebo: hi ara

Eliza Madrigal: The thing is, everyone is 'guilty' in some ways, and things take time to change

Qt Core: 1000 km

Eliza Madrigal: Hi Ara :)

Qt Core: hi ara

Wol Euler nods.

SophiaSharon Larnia: sounds like a poem i want to write, i drink mycolumbian cofee, and watch my tv from japan...

Eliza Madrigal smiles

Wol Euler: The quandary is also, how else could we do to support agricultural workers in other areas, Fair Trade and the like, if their goods were not shipped to us?

Wol Euler: Do I support small-yield farmers trying to become financially secure in South America, or do I try to reduce my carbon footprint by not buying their goods?

Qt Core: making them grow things they need there, often some countries go monocultural to export crops

Wol Euler: true, qt, but that presupposes a functioning internal market economy

Eliza Madrigal nods... yes and just as countries are developing, we often want to impose restrictions and make things more expensive...like "Now we've developed you need to stay 3 steps behind"

Mickorod Renard: maybe things could be exchanged instead of it being un fair?

SophiaSharon Larnia: to trade for resources they don't have in their country Qt

Qt Core: yes, i sometimes forgot we don't have a "rea;" sovranational government with (evem) a real army, managed by saints ;-)

Agatha Macbeth: Bugger, someone wants me to teleport to see her

Wol Euler: :)

Wol Euler: well, you know now that we don't bite :)

arabella Ella: :)

SophiaSharon Larnia: smiles, bye Agatha

Wol Euler: feel free to come back any time you like

Agatha Macbeth: I'll be back

Mickorod Renard: nibble a bit

sophia Placebo: bye agatha

Wol Euler: not without asking anyway

SophiaSharon Larnia: haha

Mickorod Renard: bye agather

Eliza Madrigal grins

--BELL--

Agatha Macbeth: Crazy woman

Eliza Madrigal: WB Agatha!

SophiaSharon Larnia: wb Agatha :)

sophia Placebo: *:::* WELCOME BACK *:::*

sophia Placebo: ^^

Eliza Madrigal: :)

SophiaSharon Larnia: your seat is still warm ;p

Wol Euler: I'm trying to remember (and google) who it was who wrote a satire/parable about a village where everyone earned a comfortable living by each doing the other's laundry.

arabella Ella: :)

Wol Euler: wb agatha, that was fast

Agatha Macbeth: My seat is ALWAYS warm!

SophiaSharon Larnia: hehe

Eliza Madrigal: hehehe

Wol Euler: heheheheh

Agatha Macbeth: What were we talking about?

Wol Euler: fair trade, exchange, carbon footprints

Agatha Macbeth: Oh yeah

Wol Euler: do you know the chat history page, agatha?

Agatha Macbeth: Sounds familiar

Wol Euler: click on the "local chat" button left of the typing field

Wol Euler: that shows you everything said near you since you logged on

Agatha Macbeth: I got it

Wol Euler: very useful!

Agatha Macbeth: Mmmmm

Mickorod Renard: does it?

Mickorod Renard: cool

Wol Euler: mmhmm

SophiaSharon Larnia: lol!

Wol Euler: mick! I'm astonished.

Wol Euler: or gullible.

Eliza Madrigal: :)

Yakuzza Lethecus: onigokko

arabella Ella: he he

Eliza Madrigal giggles

SophiaSharon Larnia: AAAHhhhhhhh....

Yakuzza Lethecus: stop

Wol Euler laughgs

SophiaSharon Larnia: giggles

Wol Euler: with extra "g"s

Yakuzza Lethecus: at least one time unexpected :)

SophiaSharon Larnia: thanks i needed that

Wol Euler: nobody expects the onigokko!

arabella Ella: yes i need some exercise too

arabella Ella: he he

Eliza Madrigal: haha

Mickorod Renard: ok, where was I?

SophiaSharon Larnia: leaves quietly, bye all!

Mickorod Renard: ok,,got my tail on now

Yakuzza Lethecus: bye sophia

Wol Euler: bye sophia, take care

sophia Placebo: you truly truly truly didnt know the local chat window ?

Mickorod Renard: bye sophia

sophia Placebo: bye sophia

Mickorod Renard: well, yes but I thought it ommited what was said whilst away

Wol Euler: oh no :)

arabella Ella: bye sophia

Wol Euler: it's a snooping device too in that respect

Mickorod Renard: yikes

Agatha Macbeth: Big Brother

Wol Euler: except that people can still see your av. It's not exactly secret

arabella Ella: how do i open that chat window Wol?

arabella Ella: scuse my ignorance

Wol Euler: click on the button "local chat" at the bottom left

arabella Ella: it used to be open but it is no longer there

Wol Euler: O.O

Wol Euler: is it on screen but minimized?

Qt Core: (i have it open all the tiome and do most of my reading and writing there)

arabella Ella: i only have communicate down there

arabella Ella: nothing is minimised

Wol Euler: where are you typing then?

Eliza Madrigal: Next to communicate a tiny little oval will show local chat if you click it?

arabella Ella: in the box which pops up when i click communicate

arabella Ella: yes i did nothing happens

Wol Euler: oh, right

arabella Ella: and local chat is ticked X on View

Wol Euler: click on the speech bubble button to the left of communicate.

Wol Euler: that pops up thte second row of buttons

sophia Placebo: click on the icon next to communication

arabella Ella: ok done thanks

arabella Ella: there it is now

Wol Euler: :)

arabella Ella: and how did you say we get the chat while we were away?

arabella Ella: pls?

Wol Euler: away as in AFK is simple: it automatically gets posted there.

arabella Ella: yes

Wol Euler: anything that your avatar was able to hear, is in that.

arabella Ella: ok

Mickorod Renard: I think I knew that, I thought there was something new

Mickorod Renard: to me

Mickorod Renard: but it wont change my life too much

sophia Placebo: so you dont need to be present the whole pab session , you might do many thing and still can catch up what others said

Wol Euler: right, but that would be cheating :)

Mickorod Renard: yes, you mean away in real life

--BELL--

sophia Placebo: ^^ yes

Eliza Madrigal: Dinner finished... got to go. Good to see you all :D Bye for now

Wol Euler: bye eliza, bon appetit

sophia Placebo: bye ELIZA

Qt Core: bye eliza

Agatha Macbeth: Bye

Eliza Madrigal: Merci

Eliza Madrigal: Adios!

Mickorod Renard: I was thinking that there was something like that if my avi went to kira for 6 mins

Eliza Madrigal: :D

Mickorod Renard: bye Eliza

sophia Placebo: you can use your alt :)

Wol Euler: no, SL is like RL in that respect, you cannot hear things in two places at once

Wol Euler nods to sophia

Mickorod Renard: thats assuming I have an alt ;)

Wol Euler: what. doesn'T everyone?

Qt Core: mmm, considering the value of an alt with a tini invisible shape/skin/outfit ;-)

sophia Placebo: i dont

Qt Core: me neither

Wol Euler <-- joking

Mickorod Renard: so what was the subject tonite?

Mickorod Renard: he he

sophia Placebo: *:::* WELCOME BACK *:::*

Wol Euler: wb ara

arabella Ella smiles

arabella Ella: ty

arabella Ella: crashed

Yakuzza Lethecus: from sillyness to the environmental issues of climate change again

Mickorod Renard: ty, by the way Yaku, I can now get stims recordings to play,,thanks

Yakuzza Lethecus: did you ask ur son ? :)

Mickorod Renard: he he ,,no, I managed it all by myself

Wol Euler cheers

arabella Ella: ;0

arabella Ella: Wol have you downloaded SL version 1.23 yet?

arabella Ella: i ask as i am not managing to download it

arabella Ella: each time i try it says the download has a virus

Qt Core: i have the linux one (still on old viewer on vista)

arabella Ella: oh

arabella Ella: thats a totally different system tho i dont have linux

Qt Core: don't know why but i found the linux one a little faster... but has some audio problems

arabella Ella: ah

arabella Ella: faster to download ... or when using SL?

Wol Euler: oh, sorry ara, I missed your question :(

Qt Core: using sl (but now i'm realizing that i layed maybe too muc with graphic setting on the vista one

Qt Core: layed=played

Wol Euler: I'm using the emerald viewer since a few weeks now

arabella Ella: ah

Wol Euler: also 1.23 base code

Wol Euler: it's good, very pretty and very stable.

arabella Ella: ehrm ... what is the emerald viewer?

Wol Euler: I will tempt fate by saying htat I haven't crashed since I started using it

arabella Ella: :)

Wol Euler: an alternative to the Linden standard software

Qt Core: features over the plain sl viewer (prettiners isn't really a feature ;-) )

arabella Ella: oh

arabella Ella: interesting

Wol Euler: slightly tweaked and improved. It has some tiny but lovely features

Wol Euler: like the Inventory has a third page "Worn items"

Wol Euler: that is worth the price of the download!

arabella Ella: yes

arabella Ella: sounds really interesting

sophia Placebo: thats cool

arabella Ella: but is it not open source then?

Wol Euler: it works very well for me; and yes it is open source

Wol Euler: lemme find thte URL ... just a mo

arabella Ella: ok ty

arabella Ella: i probably need to get an IT person to re-check my firewall settings as I had a bad virus a trojan a couple of weeks ago and had to have firewall adjusted

Wol Euler: http://modularsystems.sl/index.php?o...tions&Itemid=5

arabella Ella: thanks Wol :)

Wol Euler: yw

sophia Placebo: thnx

Wol Euler: yw2 :)

Wol Euler: hello mary, welcome back

Mary Korpov: hi

Mickorod Renard: Hi mary

sophia Placebo: err what exactly should i download ?

arabella Ella: Hiya Mary

sophia Placebo: hello mary

Agatha Macbeth: hello

Mary Korpov: hi

Wol Euler: just a mo, lemme look again

Mickorod Renard: I may have a look at that too Wol, I love tweeking

--BELL--

Wol Euler: click on the link for your OS under "Emerald Software"

sophia Placebo: i did , there are three more links though

Wol Euler: windows?

sophia Placebo: yes for windows

Wol Euler: oh, right. you donÃ„'t need any of them, neihter signatures nor sourcecode nor misc

Wol Euler: under windows, I owuld go for the optimized, and if you use voice, the voice-support-FPS-boost too.

Wol Euler: load the setup first, then download the voice support pack and install that second.

Wol Euler: but only if you do use voice

arabella Ella: ty

Wol Euler: yw

Mickorod Renard: I think I am lost, I have so many balls up in the air at the momment,,maybe I should not complicate things more

Mary Korpov: Play as Help Desk?

Wol Euler laughs

arabella Ella: he he

Agatha Macbeth: Painful

Qt Core: ohh, a non voice enalbed version... i'll have an excuse not to use it ;-)

arabella Ella: u changing profession Mick ... to juggling balls?

Mickorod Renard: balls up, being the most accurate

sophia Placebo: thanks

Wol Euler: my pleasure

arabella Ella giggles

Mickorod Renard: well, I think I will go now..maybe check my garden out in bieup

Wol Euler smiles

Mickorod Renard: see if it needs watering

Wol Euler: bye mick, get yer thumbs dirty.

Mary Korpov: What does "bieup" mean? I've never heard that word.

Mickorod Renard: yea,,I seem to have a faulty particle emmiter there

Wol Euler: it's a place, a sim near here

sophia Placebo: me g2g too

Wol Euler: bye sophia, take care.

arabella Ella: bye Mick bye Sophia

Agatha Macbeth: Sayonara

Mickorod Renard: bye all,, nameste

Qt Core: bye sophia, mick

Wol Euler: very near here, actually: we are in it.

Wol Euler: I forgot.

Wol Euler: stop

Wol Euler: onigokko

Mary Korpov: What is this?

Wol Euler: heheheh

Mickorod Renard: madness

Wol Euler: a friday night tradition :)

Wol Euler: let me give you a copy...

Mary Korpov: A copy of what?

arabella Ella: just gave u a copy to wear Mary

Wol Euler: stop

arabella Ella: would you like one too Qt?

Qt Core: just some side effects of pab, nothing serious ;-)

Qt Core: i have it, don't like it

arabella Ella loves onigokko

arabella Ella: makes me giggle

Wol Euler grins

arabella Ella: and laughing is healthy

Mary Korpov: Does "onigokko" have a meaning?

Wol Euler: hmmmm, good question

Mary Korpov: I agree that laughing is healthy, but that didn't make me laugh

Wol Euler: ah well

arabella Ella: just googled it

Agatha Macbeth: Someone just sent me a Group Notice about Vampires

arabella Ella: it is a japanese tag like game

Wol Euler grins. Big community of vampires in SL ...

arabella Ella: must go now too night all

Agatha Macbeth: Weird

arabella Ella: ciao

Wol Euler: bye Ara, take care

Agatha Macbeth: Shalom

Mary Korpov: bye

Qt Core: google sent me to the tag game wikipedia page... but there is no onigokko in it

Mary Korpov: Actually, I rarely laugh.

Wol Euler: why?

Qt Core: http://www.indopedia.org/Onigokko.html

Wol Euler: or why not?

Mary Korpov: Not sure. I just don't. I don't smile much either. I don't tend to feel extremes in any direction.

Qt Core: (she is blond she cant be vulcan)

Mary Korpov: I'm a blond vulcan.

Wol Euler laughs. Once a Trekkie, always a trekkie.

Agatha Macbeth: Pointy ears are a dead giveaway

--BELL--

Mary Korpov: Extremes of emotion do seem to get in the way for me.

Wol Euler: wb again agatha

Agatha Macbeth: Don't know what happened there

Qt Core: many says i'm a little cold and emotionless... with some crazy moments in the way

Agatha Macbeth: Bloody Bill Gates

Wol Euler: heheheheh

Mary Korpov: I don't have crazy moments--just cold and emotionless.

Agatha Macbeth: Maybe I should get a Mac

Qt Core: or just linux your pc

Qt Core: less expensive

Agatha Macbeth: I'm too dumb for all that stuff

Wol Euler: macs are easy.

Wol Euler: they Just Work.

Mary Korpov: yes

Agatha Macbeth: :}

Qt Core: could i suggest to try a "live" ubunto, it start from your cd and won't touch your pc

Agatha Macbeth: Oh

Agatha Macbeth: What's an ubunto?

Qt Core: ubuntu is one of the most used linux editions nowadays, quite user friendly

Agatha Macbeth: Whatever happened to BeOS?

Yakuzza Lethecus: it got a different name now

Qt Core: it died several years ago

Mary Korpov: What ever happened to CPM?

Wol Euler: it became WasOS

Qt Core: but it come back just some weeks ago as an opensource with another name

Agatha Macbeth: I really liked the icons in BeOS

Qt Core: i want LCARS with voice recognition, obviously ;-)

Yakuzza Lethecus: hmm, zeta was the successor of beOS

Yakuzza Lethecus: but there seem to have been legal issues according to wikipedia

Mary Korpov: Well, not being a computer person, I think I will move on.

Wol Euler: bye mary, take care

Mary Korpov: bye

Yakuzza Lethecus: bye mary

Agatha Macbeth: Au revoir

Qt Core: or we may just take our heads out of the case ;-)

Yakuzza Lethecus: i am just a winodws person after i used debian woody for a couple of years

Qt Core: the hard and pure way of Linux ;-)

Wol Euler: burning your fingers with a gem-like flame?

Agatha Macbeth: Say what Wol?

Wol Euler: sorry, I snuck out to make tea

Wol Euler: didn't think anyone wold ask a question that soon :)

Agatha Macbeth: 2 quick 4 ya!

Wol Euler: there was some quote or other about pure and hard things burning with a gem-like flame

Wol Euler: which I cross-bred with your comment about Linux being too hard for mere mortals

Agatha Macbeth: Can you be pure and hard?

Wol Euler: you know, that always sounded like too much hard work to me.

Agatha Macbeth: Sorry, i'll behave

Wol Euler: be what you are, let other people worry about categorizing it.

Agatha Macbeth: I've just got another Group Notice

Agatha Macbeth: This one's about Slug Racing

Qt Core: ;-) i don't know if hard and pure has the same meaning it has in italian (duro e puro) it means do not make compromises

Agatha Macbeth: What are these people on?

Wol Euler laughs

Wol Euler: we're high on Being, baby.

Agatha Macbeth: Vampires and Slug Racing in one evening?

Wol Euler: oh, them :)

Wol Euler: stay away from the vampires, they tend to be very earnest in their silliness.

Wol Euler: Slug racing is fun, though.

Agatha Macbeth: I'll bear it in mind

Wol Euler: and yes, qt, same meaning

Qt Core: and vampire slug racing ?

Wol Euler: the mind boggles.

--BELL--

Qt Core: or slug racing vampires to slime them ?

Agatha Macbeth: Who started PAB?

Yakuzza Lethecus: live long and prosper everyone :) i need to close my eyes for some time

Yakuzza Lethecus: pema pera ?

Yakuzza Lethecus: www.kira.org

Agatha Macbeth: Cheers

Wol Euler: bye yakuzza, take care. enjoy the weekend

Qt Core: bye yakuzza

Wol Euler: agatha, did anyone give you the official notecard yet?

Agatha Macbeth: Not sure

Agatha Macbeth: Arigato Wol

Agatha Macbeth: Actually I think I HAVE read that somewhere. Thanx anyway

Wol Euler: ok :)

Agatha Macbeth: Why do those bells keep happening?

Wol Euler: to remind us to pause and reflect.

Wol Euler: the core practice (we are officially a meditation group, though you might not have guessed)

Agatha Macbeth: Er....on what exactly?

Agatha Macbeth: Oh I see

Wol Euler: the core practice is a mini-meditation, a "time tax".

Wol Euler: every fifteen minutes, pause for nine seconds (1% of your time)

Wol Euler: drop what you *think* you are, what you

Wol Euler: what you *think* is happening around you, and try to see what really *is*

Wol Euler: the idea is to make meditation a normal part of life, a companion or a tool

Wol Euler: rther than a special event that can only happen in special places and times

Agatha Macbeth: Heavy

Wol Euler: on the contrary, very light :)

Agatha Macbeth: Grazi

Qt Core: like, if we were sub,arines do an active scan instead of the passive one we do all time

Qt Core: (but someone told me i felt just the opposite about that)

Qt Core: i=it

Wol Euler: anyway, that's the reason for the bell :)

Agatha Macbeth: Ah ha

Agatha Macbeth: I just noticed there's only 3 of us here

Wol Euler smiles

Wol Euler: it comes and goes. We are a full hour beyond the official end of the session...

Agatha Macbeth: Where did everybody else go?

Wol Euler: well, many would have gone to bed :) there are a lot of Euros at the 1pm sessions

Agatha Macbeth: I'm too right-brained: time just passes by and I don't even notice

Wol Euler smiles.

Wol Euler: or perhaps you are just enjoying yourself?

--BELL--

Agatha Macbeth: How long do these things normally go on for then?

Wol Euler: an hour is typical, often everyone has someting else to do so they come to an abrupt halt

Wol Euler: the record is seven hours.

Agatha Macbeth: SEVEN hours? Holy crap

Wol Euler: heheheheheh

Wol Euler: ran seamlessly over into the next session.

Agatha Macbeth: What were you talking about?

Qt Core: and did someone stayed for all the 7 hours ?

Qt Core: technical pause forgiven ;-)

Wol Euler: oh yes, three or four people were there the whole time, if I remember rightly

Agatha Macbeth: You're still with us then QT?

Qt Core: oh yes, i often seem to be lost somewhere else ;-)

Wol Euler: :)

Qt Core: sometimes i may even be but usually not

Agatha Macbeth: Ain't we all?

Wol Euler: true, but not all know it.

Agatha Macbeth: There's a thin line between lost and found

Wol Euler: indeed.

Qt Core: i just got one of the cutest/saddest/hope vignette i saw

Wol Euler: and "lost" itself is a barrel of meanings and cases.

Qt Core: http://imgur.com/vCG0u.jpg

Agatha Macbeth: Say what QT?

Wol Euler: awwwwwwww

Qt Core: follow the link

Agatha Macbeth: Am I missing something?

Wol Euler: do you know the childrens' book The Velveteen Rabbit?

Agatha Macbeth: What was the link?

Qt Core: http://imgur.com/vCG0u.jpg

Wol Euler: agatha, if you look in the chat history window, you'll see

Wol Euler: the window converts them into clickable internet links

Qt Core: no, never been a fan of child book

Qt Core: i started reading.... the pictures of teen years science books when 3 yo ;-)

Agatha Macbeth: Mario and Toad?

Agatha Macbeth: That's what I saw

Qt Core: the onli child book i had was about an apple and its worm

Agatha Macbeth: Just me I guess

Wol Euler: that's odd, it was a grown-up Calvin and Hobbes

Agatha Macbeth: Ah, I know Calvin and Hobbes

Qt Core: with Hobbes going away with Calvin' daughter

Wol Euler: mmhmm

Qt Core: and Calvin in the background

Agatha Macbeth: What was that noise just now?

Agatha Macbeth: Ah

Wol Euler: wb mick

Agatha Macbeth: Hi

Wol Euler: or not ...

Agatha Macbeth: Mmm

--BELL--

Wol Euler: I have the sound turned way down, I didn't hear anything.

Qt Core: i upped it and the 15min gong almost made me jump ;-)

Agatha Macbeth: Oh well, I have a sudden urge to listen to music for some reason, so I'll be off now

Wol Euler: bye for now, I'm glad you came down to meet us.

Qt Core: bye then and enjoy your music!

Agatha Macbeth: Me too. You were right, you didn't bite :(

Wol Euler: :)

Wol Euler: only with prior consent.

Agatha Macbeth: Bye

Wol Euler: take care

Qt Core: someone around here in rl is cooking a wonderful roast... i smell it why do it at 00:20 is quite a mistery

Wol Euler: mmmmmmmmmm

Wol Euler: but yes, that is odd.

Qt Core: the problem is that is making me hungry ;-)

Wol Euler: yeah, I hear you.

Wol Euler: well, I think I must go. It's getting late. and for you, very late.

Wol Euler: buona notte, qt.

Qt Core: yes but i napped in the afternoon ;-)

Wol Euler: ah!

Qt Core: buonanotte Wol

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