2009.09.30 19:00 - ...cease to cherish opinions

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    The Guardian for this meeting was stevenaia Michinaga. The comments are by stevenaia Michinaga.


    stevenaia Michinaga: hi Paradise
    Paradise Tennant: hiya steve ..how are you :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: better
    stevenaia Michinaga: to much food (leftovers) from this past weekend that didn;t agree with me
    Paradise Tennant: yikes
    Paradise Tennant: hiya pila
    Pila Mulligan: hi Steve an dParadise
    stevenaia Michinaga: and other things that seemed to ahve cleared up, interesting as Spetember began as a wonderful month and ended not as much
    stevenaia Michinaga: hi Pila
    stevenaia Michinaga: happy Wwednesday
    Paradise Tennant: happy wednesday
    Pila Mulligan: thanks
    stevenaia Michinaga: since we seemed to have staked out wednesday as our own, what shall we do with this?
    Pila Mulligan: I'm busily subverting people to osgrid :)
    Paradise Tennant: :) does any one have anything they would like to talk about
    Paradise Tennant: lol
    stevenaia Michinaga: :)
    Pila Mulligan: got almost half a dozen so far :)
    Paradise Tennant: :)
    Pila Mulligan: I'd like to show you my new beach place there sometimw
    stevenaia Michinaga: where do you take them
    Pila Mulligan: to the beach :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: here ot OSGrid
    Pila Mulligan: swim with the whales :)
    Paradise Tennant: loves the beach !
    stevenaia Michinaga: yes we have a summer date with the beach every year
    Pila Mulligan: rl though
    stevenaia Michinaga: nods
    Pila Mulligan: I prefer rl also
    Pila Mulligan: hi eos
    stevenaia Michinaga: swimng here jsut isn;t quite the same
    Pila Mulligan: not even wet
    stevenaia Michinaga: hi Eos
    Eos Amaterasu: Hi Pila, Para, Steve
    stevenaia Michinaga: yes, we are drip dry
    Pila Mulligan: hmmm, a topic?
    Pila Mulligan: ....
    Paradise Tennant: hiya eos
    stevenaia Michinaga: hmmm, all yours Pila
    Eos Amaterasu: Pema does a great rap on APAPB at http://playasbeing.wik.is/Chat_Logs/2009/09/2009.09.30_07%3a00_-
    Pila Mulligan: thinks
    stevenaia Michinaga: hands Pila the talking stick... if I ahd one
    Pila Mulligan shakes it
    Paradise Tennant: ;)
    Eos Amaterasu listens
    Pila Mulligan: yes, i read that log earlier Eos
    Pila Mulligan: this stick is quiet :)
    Eos Amaterasu: "Pema Pera: the invitation is to switch from appearance to only the bare PRESENCE of appearance"
    stevenaia Michinaga: ....reading
    Paradise Tennant: just reading the log ..looks llike a wonderful starting point
    Eos Amaterasu: appreciate -> appearance -> presence -> be-ing
    Paradise Tennant: simple but as Pema says the practice for a life time
    Eos Amaterasu: true - I love those kind of simple things, that reach deep down
    stevenaia Michinaga: yes, refinement if an idea is never ending
    stevenaia Michinaga: although seeing being is an individual perspective
    stevenaia Michinaga: I love that shared perspective of a single idea, like each of us looking at the fountain, we all see it yet each from a different perspective, the fountain looks back from a single point
    Eos Amaterasu: yes, and it is still adorned with its pink tutu
    Pila Mulligan: :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: like seeing being and being looks back
    stevenaia Michinaga: it calls to me
    stevenaia Michinaga: :)
    Paradise Tennant: ;)
    stevenaia Michinaga: (claims log)
    Eos Amaterasu: logging Being
    Paradise Tennant: i see a pink lily blossom :)
    Paradise Tennant: lol
    stevenaia Michinaga: oh good, tonight my text is included
    Pila Mulligan: :)
    Pila Mulligan: makes you feel more real
    Pila Mulligan: log looking back :)
    Eos Amaterasu: proof you exist
    stevenaia Michinaga: seems soemthing called a "listener" (program I assume) is attached to each of us, except me on Sunday
    Pila Mulligan: yes, interesting glitch
    stevenaia Michinaga: must have been dressed in listenerproof suit
    Eos Amaterasu: ?
    Pila Mulligan: are tech glitches subject to the inflence of thought alone?
    stevenaia Michinaga: Eos, on my sunday the log , it recoreded everyone but me
    Eos Amaterasu: Oh, weird!
    stevenaia Michinaga: when I atempted to edit it i relalized my voice (of sorts) was completely missing
    Pila Mulligan: but you found another copy?
    stevenaia Michinaga: wol is still scratching his head
    Pila Mulligan: (edit his maybe?)
    stevenaia Michinaga: I had my own log as I daddn;t closed my window
    stevenaia Michinaga: didn't
    Pila Mulligan: lucky you, Steve
    Paradise Tennant: :)
    Pila Mulligan: how could you reconsturct a whole session
    Pila Mulligan: otherwise
    Paradise Tennant: how hard it is to do .. the editing and posting ..tomorrow is my first session
    stevenaia Michinaga: begs the question, if you weren;t in the log (recorded), were you there
    Pila Mulligan: it is ont bad, Paradise
    Paradise Tennant: do not really know how
    Pila Mulligan: I'll help if needed
    Eos Amaterasu: pretty easy:
    Paradise Tennant: one hand clapping
    Eos Amaterasu: click the link you'll get in the email
    stevenaia Michinaga: I should be back by the end of the session, I helped Fox do her 1st log in about 5 minutes
    Eos Amaterasu: at the web page that takes you to, select everything, copy
    Eos Amaterasu: and paste into a text editor
    Eos Amaterasu: where you can edit it
    Eos Amaterasu: then go to the September page, clickENW page, etc
    Pila Mulligan: eNW= NEW :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: i usually click the when claimed, it;ll be emprty at first, then jsut refresh the link in your browser when you are done and it fills with the log
    stevenaia Michinaga: the log
    Eos Amaterasu: cool
    stevenaia Michinaga: the sublties of editing come when you have time, adding pictures, linking weblinks
    Paradise Tennant: okies making a notecard
    stevenaia Michinaga: :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: there are instuctions on the wiki
    Pila Mulligan: are you on the schedule onw Paradise, or fillingin for someone?
    stevenaia Michinaga: but initially being lead makes it asy
    stevenaia Michinaga: easy
    stevenaia Michinaga: you can always go back and edit it later
    Paradise Tennant: yes thursday nights at 7
    Pila Mulligan: cool
    Paradise Tennant: kk
    stevenaia Michinaga: yes, Sylectra got a new job and crashes earlier
    Paradise Tennant: nods
    Paradise Tennant: well was thinking it would be intersting to talk about the benefits of silence :)
    Pila Mulligan: nice topic
    Paradise Tennant: lol
    stevenaia Michinaga: I tend to resolve much in silence
    Paradise Tennant: well it can help you side step distraction .. appreciate being
    Pila Mulligan: yep, quiet can nourish the mind
    Paradise Tennant: eckart tolle wrote a lovely book called stillness speaks ..
    Eos Amaterasu: quiet is where stuff comes from
    stevenaia Michinaga: it jsut seems to drift away into the void, then filling up with silence
    Eos Amaterasu: is silence presence?
    Paradise Tennant: hmm yes
    Eos Amaterasu: let's appreciate the presence of silence
    Paradise Tennant: well prescence is prescence but I think silence .. helps
    Paradise Tennant: we are silent :)
    Eos Amaterasu: wow - silence is my silence, and everything is more vivid there
    Paradise Tennant: ;)
    Pila Mulligan: once upon a time a guru in India died and his student was full of grief, wailing and weeping beside a river -- then a dead body floating in the river drifted close to shore -- he recognized it was his guru and then the guru stood up and looked at him -- the student was awe struck -- the guru said, please, contain yourself, you have nearly extinguished me in the nether with the turbulence of your thoughts, and the guru feel dead back into the river and floated away
    Eos Amaterasu: :-)
    Pila Mulligan: quiet supports spirit
    Eos Amaterasu: including your own
    Pila Mulligan: yep
    Eos Amaterasu: quiet can be in every act
    Paradise Tennant: yes
    Eos Amaterasu: like the tread of a tiger :-)
    stevenaia Michinaga: looking for that reference
    Pila Mulligan: quiet can also reveal the nature of a place - such as the rsutlig of leaves in a forest or the sound of an ocean
    Pila Mulligan: rustling*
    Eos Amaterasu: you feel the space in the sound
    Paradise Tennant: i think silence also supports space .. sometimes I think our incessant chatter both verbal and mental .. makes our lives narrow constricted with the repeatition ..of the mundane
    Paradise Tennant: ;)
    Pila Mulligan: I agree, words have veloicty and inertia
    Eos Amaterasu: we play commercials of ourselves, selling ourselves to ourselves
    Pila Mulligan: we try to keep up and they take us with them
    Paradise Tennant: walked by a sign this week on church a quote from conrad to the effect words are a path away from reality
    stevenaia Michinaga: :)
    Eos Amaterasu: "do not search for the truth; only cease to cherish opinions"
    Paradise Tennant: :))
    Pila Mulligan:

    "In the pursuit of learning, every day something is acquired. In the pursuit of Tao, every day something is dropped. "
    Tao Te Ching, verse 48

    Paradise Tennant: yes we cherish our opinions and not the letting go .. when the latter is freedom
    Paradise Tennant: of sorts
    Pila Mulligan: so what is the practice that gives us the grace of quiet being?
    Pila Mulligan: answer: anytihng :)
    Pila Mulligan: anything that works thatis
    Pila Mulligan: fishing included
    Paradise Tennant: hmm washing floors ..lol which I have to do very soon .. because company is coming ..
    Eos Amaterasu: ah, but we always try to escape things
    Paradise Tennant: we try to escape the present we run to the future .. dally in the past
    Pila Mulligan: the busy mind does try to escape, Eos
    stevenaia Michinaga: even washing floors is a time to mditate
    Eos Amaterasu: it cannot stay with the one, so it tries to escape the many
    Pila Mulligan: but a good floor washer or a good fisherperson can ignore the busy mind
    Paradise Tennant: :)
    Eos Amaterasu: except it escapes from many to many
    Paradise Tennant: escapes from many to many ?
    Pila Mulligan: turbulence :)
    Pila Mulligan: the antithesis of quiet
    Eos Amaterasu: but touching anything with pure openness dissolves it
    Eos Amaterasu: and your finger :-)
    Paradise Tennant: looks at her fingers
    Paradise Tennant: ;)
    Eos Amaterasu looks at his hands....
    Eos Amaterasu wonders if he's dreaming
    Paradise Tennant: sighs .. and knows that even in this dream .. the floors will not wash themselves and the dog has even less inclination :)) going to have to scoot :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: :)
    Pila Mulligan: bye Paradise,have fun
    stevenaia Michinaga: http://www.mountainman.com.au/hsinhsin.html
    stevenaia Michinaga: your poem, Eos
    Eos Amaterasu: f you wish to move in the One Way do not dislike even the world of senses and ideas.
    Eos Amaterasu: If
    Paradise Tennant: great poem ..makes another notecard
    Paradise Tennant: and quietly poof .. good night all :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: it;s always in the log, Paradise
    Eos Amaterasu: Yes. I used to read a slightly different trans
    stevenaia Michinaga: unfortunaltely I must go now as well, much to do tonight
    Eos Amaterasu: It 's bit like some writing by Dogen (and also by Jerry Garcia)
    stevenaia Michinaga: thank you gentlemen, always a pleasure
    Eos Amaterasu: Ciao! I'll also head for the zeds
    Eos Amaterasu: zzzzz's
    Eos Amaterasu: good night, steve, pila, para
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