2009.10.02 01:00 - Exceedingly normal

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    Wol Euler was guardian and commenter for this session.



    Fael Illyar: Hi Wol! :)

    Wol Euler: good morning!

    Wol Euler: gah, superslow rezzing.

    Fael Illyar: That's SL for you... again :)

    Fael Illyar: I visited the local Diamondway Buddhist Center last night :)

    Fael Illyar: Good thing I liked the place. It's the only option in Turku.


    Wol Euler: ooh, cool.

    Wol Euler: was that your first RL buddhistery?

    Fael Illyar: yep

    Wol Euler: and? :)

    Fael Illyar: I liked it. Even if the people there felt exceedingly normal ;) ... perhaps even abnormally so :)

    Fael Illyar: The meditation is a bit different from Zen meditation I've been doing.

    Fael Illyar: Sound and visualization involved.

    Wol Euler: "Even if the people there felt exceedingly normal". You were expecting alligators and parrots?

    Fael Illyar: Nah, more monk like :)

    Fael Illyar: anything but :)

    Wol Euler: ah ;)

    Fael Illyar: except perhaps the local leader. No local teachers though

    Wol Euler frowns as a vague memory surfaces. Isn't Turku a university town?

    Fael Illyar: yep

    Wol Euler: but but but ... how can you have a university without semi-nonprofessional teachers of unusual religions?

    Wol Euler: I thought that was in the charter.

    Fael Illyar: well, the closest to one is the local leader in the center I guess.

    Fael Illyar: He leads the meditation and introduces newcomers to the meditation

    Wol Euler nods

    Wol Euler: how did it compare to sessions here, or workshops?

    Fael Illyar: hmmh...

    Fael Illyar: not really comparable :)

    Fael Illyar: the meditation... the thing that struck me was that I didn't have to build it myself. It just came.

    Fael Illyar: difference of a group meditation I guess :)

    Wol Euler: interesting.

    Fael Illyar: I commented about it to the local leader and he confirmed that that's how it goes.

    Wol Euler smiles

    Wol Euler: peer-group reinforcement, or some such expression

    Fael Illyar: Yes, pretty much

    Wol Euler: brb, tea is ready

    Fael Illyar: Hi Tarmel :)

    Tarmel Udimo: Hi Fael & Wol:)

    Fael Illyar: Nice hat Tarmel :)

    Wol Euler: ha! yes!

    Wol Euler: hello tarmel, nice to see you

    Tarmel Udimo: tks its a freebie and yes its great to see you too

    Fael Illyar: It's been a while :)

    Tarmel Udimo: sure has

    Tarmel Udimo: how have things been

    Wol Euler: interesting in various ways


    Tarmel Udimo: how interesting ;)

    Wol Euler: :)

    Wol Euler: well, other times are one-dimensionally interesting.

    Tarmel Udimo: nods

    Tarmel Udimo: and you fael?

    Fael Illyar: Things have been great (and not so great but that's not so important)

    Tarmel Udimo: nods ahh the old world of duality:)

    Fael Illyar smiles.

    Tarmel Udimo: this beautful light blue cheese is helping as well as a nice glass of red;)

    Wol Euler smiles broadly.

    Fael Illyar: Oooh :)

    Wol Euler: nice colour combination.

    Tarmel Udimo: VERY!

    Tarmel Udimo: so what do I need to know about all the moving and selling etc, evrything seems to be the same

    Wol Euler: it seems to me that things are getting progressively less clear.

    Wol Euler: in part because I've missed two weekend meetings :)

    Tarmel Udimo: smiles

    Wol Euler: some people have dropped out, others are getting worried about the cost.

    Tarmel Udimo: nods

    Wol Euler: which is fair.

    Tarmel Udimo: well are those guardian plots over there behind the pavillion?

    Wol Euler: yep, sure are.

    Wol Euler: available for free, no strings, as ours were.

    Wol Euler: (full disclosure: I have one too)

    Tarmel Udimo: nods is that what people are opting for

    Wol Euler: in Maxine's case, yes. She wants to be part of the larger community

    Fael Illyar ponders about taking one too...

    Wol Euler: adams and eliza and gaya are considering remaining at the beach in Buyeo

    Tarmel Udimo: OK

    Wol Euler: neela wants pila's old spot (Pila has dropped out too)

    Wol Euler: haven't heard anything from riddle. Fael?

    Tarmel Udimo: nods

    Wol Euler: hello sophia!

    Tarmel Udimo: do I need to pay something for the last month or was there enough?

    Fael Illyar: Nothing from Riddle

    sophia Placebo: hi wol fael tarmel

    Fael Illyar: there was enough

    Fael Illyar: Hi sophia :)

    Wol Euler: there was enough

    Wol Euler: snap

    Tarmel Udimo: Hi Sophia

    sophia Placebo: nice hat

    Tarmel Udimo: tks a freebie, would anyone like one?

    Wol Euler: thanks but no, wrong colour :)

    Wol Euler only wears black.

    sophia Placebo: thanks , got a black one

    Tarmel Udimo: they come in different colours - they are very you - NOT!

    Wol Euler: heheheh

    Wol Euler: I suppose with a few decorative daggers ...

    Tarmel Udimo: hehehe

    Fael Illyar: meep! :)

    Wol Euler: :)


    Wol Euler: let's go back a stage or two. Fael and I were talking about her first visit to a RL buddhist centre last night

    Tarmel Udimo: OK

    Wol Euler: (first visit to a new one, where she now lives)

    Tarmel Udimo: tks was going to ask

    Wol Euler: not first-ever, right?

    Tarmel Udimo: Fael?

    Fael Illyar: first-ever

    Wol Euler: oh wow :)

    Tarmel Udimo: Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

    Fael Illyar: I'm thinking of going again today

    Wol Euler grins.

    Wol Euler: good!

    Tarmel Udimo: sounds like a good idea

    Tarmel Udimo: not too strict I hope

    Fael Illyar: not strict at all really. Rather ... how to say it... ah, nonconventional

    Tarmel Udimo: Oh - in what way?

    Fael Illyar: I wonder how to put it...

    Fael Illyar: Well, the people there were amazingly touchy feely for Finland.

    Wol Euler giggles

    Tarmel Udimo: nice :) we like touchy feely

    Fael Illyar: I spoke to Lodro and he said it's their way. Diamondway centers founded by Ole Nydahl

    Tarmel Udimo: well not too feely:)

    Wol Euler: :)

    Wol Euler agrees, there's not enough hugging in the world.

    Fael Illyar: not quite :)

    Tarmel Udimo: yes hugging

    Fael Illyar: I'm unused to seeing it done in Finland though :)

    Tarmel Udimo: somehow SL just doesn't do it for the hugging bit... :)

    Fael Illyar: it's different :)

    Tarmel Udimo: ahh most be the cold

    Tarmel Udimo: ie Finns

    Tarmel Udimo: and the teachings?

    Tarmel Udimo: was it mainly meditation?

    Fael Illyar: meditation... not really teaching. No local teacher really.

    Tarmel Udimo: nods

    Tarmel Udimo: might have to change the colour of my hat to match kaju

    Wol Euler: :)


    Fael Illyar: He's cute :)

    Tarmel Udimo: dear Kaju, I haven't played with him for a while

    Wol Euler smiles

    Wol Euler: you're very quiet today, sophia. Is everything OK?

    sophia Placebo: yes :) thanks , but everything is great

    Wol Euler: good :)

    Tarmel Udimo: did you want to say more Fael about your visit?

    sophia Placebo: see you later , bye !

    Tarmel Udimo: bye sophia

    Fael Illyar: Ah, sorry

    Wol Euler: ah, missed her

    Fael Illyar: was IMing with Lodro.

    Fael Illyar: My visit ... hmmh... where was I...

    Wol Euler: (where are you now?)

    Fael Illyar: right here... maybe :)

    Wol Euler smiles

    Tarmel Udimo: smiles

    Tarmel Udimo: back to the land question - it does feel like its quite nice to be close to the pavillion and yet its also nice to have space....

    Wol Euler: I definitely want to retain my site at the coast in Mugunghwa, and if the group falls apart I'll just buy it myself.

    Fael Illyar: I think more than just you feel that way.

    Tarmel Udimo: that's clear... but what would it be like if you were surrounded by people you didn't know or care to:)

    Wol Euler: that's more or less the point of the group, tarmel: to prevent that happening.

    Tarmel Udimo: yes I am responding to you saying you would be there anyway


    Fael Illyar: Well, I'll go to Lodro now :)

    Fael Illyar: Have fun Wol, Tarmel :)

    Wol Euler: bye fael, enjoy the day

    Tarmel Udimo: Hvae fun Fael

    Wol Euler: and go to the centre :)

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