2009.10.06 07:00 - Learn to Appreciate

The Guardian for this meeting was Riddle Sideways. The comments are by Riddle Sideways.

Note (to self) 1: Should check if this title is already used.  Seems likely since it is so good.
Note (to self) 2: Never let it get sooooo long before posting, even if I can not comment fully (which I can not)

Yakuzza and Sophia are already there as I rez.

Yakuzza Lethecus: hiya sophia
sophia Placebo: hi yak
Yakuzza Lethecus: you really change ur clothing everyday
sophia Placebo: hehe
Yakuzza Lethecus: so how are you today ?
sophia Placebo: im good ty , you ?
Yakuzza Lethecus: also fine, just came home, cleaned up something around here and now i enjoy a cup of coffee
Yakuzza Lethecus: which is not that hot anymore because i cooked it before i thought i could clean the mess up on the stairs to my flat :)
sophia Placebo: :) sounds like very ordinary day
Yakuzza Lethecus: right :)
Yakuzza Lethecus: hey riddle
Yakuzza Lethecus: you had something special today?
sophia Placebo: hi riddle
Riddle Sideways: good morning, Yaku and Sophia
sophia Placebo: i am special lol , not really it is all the same
Riddle Sideways: is the fountain ok like this?
sophia Placebo: yes it is ok like this
Yakuzza Lethecus: i don´t even see the fountain when i am here
Yakuzza Lethecus: but sure sometimes i like to play with it too :)
--BELL--

Yakuzza Lethecus: what i mean with that is that if you haven´t mentioned the fountain i woulnd´t even have recognized it :)
Riddle Sideways: well I have no topics for today
Riddle Sideways: checked if I had anything on my mind... nope
Yakuzza Lethecus: i might have to learn to appreciate silence :)
sophia Placebo: what for ?
Riddle Sideways: peace
Yakuzza Lethecus: i think i always intoxicate myself with nonconstructive thoughts and media
Yakuzza Lethecus: when i come home i start the computer, watch some english episodes of american tv shows as soon as i have time
sophia Placebo: some go crazy if they didnt find who would listen to them
Yakuzza Lethecus: or listen to different lectures
Yakuzza Lethecus: start second life
Riddle Sideways: later today we will be emerced in choas and clamour
Yakuzza Lethecus: but i never really do anything in silence
Riddle Sideways: for now, the soundd of my breathing is pleasnet
Yakuzza Lethecus: ah, no i don´t talk that much in real life
Yakuzza Lethecus: or what do you mean sophia ?
sophia Placebo: :) riddle said that one would appreciate silance for peace
sophia Placebo: but some would seek some friendly chat for peace
Riddle Sideways: or that having to 'learn' to appreciate silence is a funny way of saying it
Yakuzza Lethecus: it´s not even that easy to get there, silence is not only about environmental silence it might even be about ,,not thinking verbally"
--BELL--
Riddle Sideways: friendly chat. With long pauses of silence for contemplation and organizing the next thoughts
Riddle Sideways: the peace and comfort of relaxed conversation
Riddle Sideways: last night I was in a crowded noisey place. Trying to have 4 conversations at once
Riddle Sideways: a spoon fell off a table and gonged the floor
Riddle Sideways: sounded like my computer's 15 minute gong
Riddle Sideways: I took a breath
Riddle Sideways: 9-seconds of silence
sophia Placebo: :)
Riddle Sideways: I thought of how wonderfully stupid the statement I had just made to the wrongperson was
Riddle Sideways: :)
Riddle Sideways: but, they did not really hear me
sophia Placebo: hehe wondefully stupid !
Riddle Sideways: it sometimes appears that there are people watching the me watching myself watch myself
Riddle Sideways: and they hold up score boards rating my stupid to smart ratings
sophia Placebo: :)
Riddle Sideways: Being laughs
sophia Placebo: i think silance train you to be patient and to loos the urge to speak your curent mind
Riddle Sideways: yes
sophia Placebo: to relay more on more consistant rather temporary flying thoughts in your verbal communication
sophia Placebo: language after all are spoken thoughts and mind, if one get trained to more consistant verbal communication , he is actually training his brain to relay in his thinking on the consistant thoughts not the flying ones
Riddle Sideways: the at ease-ness of taking in all those noises, sights, smells, sences without the evaluations, judgements
sophia Placebo: yes
Riddle Sideways: the inputs can still happen (or not)
Riddle Sideways: but to have the peaace/silence of thoughts aboutthem
--BELL--
Riddle Sideways: most of the time I agree with you, sophia
Riddle Sideways: but there is the place for random spontanious burst of creativity
Riddle Sideways: to let aspark of whatever out
Riddle Sideways: then hear yourself say a foolish thing
Riddle Sideways: and laugh/cry
sophia Placebo: oh i say a lot of foolish things for real
sophia Placebo: i let others to hear them
sophia Placebo: very great approtunity to get rid of this need , to be just a person
Riddle Sideways: yes
Yakuzza Lethecus: but therer is a difference between true foolish/sillyness and just helping others to appreciate the situation :)
Riddle Sideways: hmmmmm
Yakuzza Lethecus: so during work i would die if we couldn´t joke about the stupidest things ever :)
sophia Placebo: creativity though need some more activity ,which would demand some commitmant and consistancy as well
sophia Placebo: i dont mind randomness of my cloth colors , not randomness of my life goals and dreams
sophia Placebo: true yak :) i love the friends that lugh at me and let me lugh at them
Riddle Sideways: a silly sentence right now would be... I like random dreams, they make the nightt pass
sophia Placebo: :)
Riddle Sideways: I know what you mean, but like to play with the words
Yakuzza Lethecus: why would it be silly ?
Riddle Sideways: you meant life dreams and were being serious. I chat about day-dreams
sophia Placebo: i liked that sentence , totally agree ,randome dreams are much better than insomnia though they give me a headach if i got many at one night
Yakuzza Lethecus: my dad has to talke sleeping pills every night
Yakuzza Lethecus: take
Yakuzza Lethecus: I think more about appreciation in live since i saw how i got down together with his old company.
sophia Placebo: hmm day dreams , i dont know if the randomnes of them is something i would like or not
Yakuzza Lethecus: It was his life for over 20 years and now he was dependent again.
Yakuzza Lethecus: how he got down sry
Yakuzza Lethecus: sry, dreams somehow triggered that
sophia Placebo: :)
--BELL--
Riddle Sideways: funny how the one simple word (dreams) took us in so many directions
sophia Placebo: that has been nice chat with both of you , got to leave
Yakuzza Lethecus: bye sophia
Riddle Sideways: ok, bye sophia
Yakuzza Lethecus: ok, we´ve done too riddle ?
Riddle Sideways: ah, I think this has made me think of how 'learn' to appreciate silence isdone
Yakuzza Lethecus: thats also related to another issue
Yakuzza Lethecus: i want to change somehow, i am not really happy with my life right now but don´t know how to change my habits easily
Yakuzza Lethecus: and tryting ,,hard" doesn´t work either
Riddle Sideways: no "trying hard" usually does not work
Yakuzza Lethecus: i ,,think i don´t want this" so i don´t think something constructive
Yakuzza Lethecus: ,,i want to say something mindfull" so i am not being in the moment and can´t say it
Yakuzza Lethecus: it´s even the same around here
Yakuzza Lethecus: as soon as people show up i respect more then others and they ask my something ,,i don´t want to scew up"
Yakuzza Lethecus: so i feel as i if i loose my naturalness
Yakuzza Lethecus: respect is maybe the wrong word
Riddle Sideways: yes, I understand
Yakuzza Lethecus: there are more impressive people around here like stim
Yakuzza Lethecus: so i even fear to ask something stuid
Yakuzza Lethecus: stupid
Riddle Sideways: know that we all do the same thing
Riddle Sideways: is silly for me to tell you to just loosen up. that would not work ifyou said it to me
Riddle Sideways: performance anxiousity
Riddle Sideways: what if you had 33 seconds with the Queen
Riddle Sideways: what would you say
Riddle Sideways: if you said the wrong/stupid/silly thing would you be locked up in jail?
Yakuzza Lethecus: hehe, but you want to leave a positive impression
Yakuzza Lethecus: yeah, you don´t want to be seens as dump
Yakuzza Lethecus: and thats why i might be asking dump things :P
Yakuzza Lethecus: lol
Riddle Sideways: lol, but understand
Riddle Sideways: and some how got over it
Yakuzza Lethecus: yeah, but what if we don´t believe in our ,,i will get over it"
Yakuzza Lethecus: just say it in that way for years
Riddle Sideways: Pete Townsend once said he was sick of people pouring out their hearts to him or asking the heartfelt questions
Yakuzza Lethecus: trying hard to get rid of it knowing that you can´t say those words that you don´t have faith to get over something while you don´t believe ur own words
Riddle Sideways: he just wanted to dance
--BELL--
Riddle Sideways: ah, I don't believe half as many words as half as many should be believed
Yakuzza Lethecus: lol
Yakuzza Lethecus: It was a book with many true and interesting things, but the interesting things aren´t true and the true things aren´t interesting :P
Riddle Sideways: Once long long ago, I said the most stupidest foolish thing at the most innappropriate time
Riddle Sideways: and learned that I didd not die of fatal embrassement
Riddle Sideways: (sp?)
Yakuzza Lethecus: sp ?
Riddle Sideways: I can't even speel embarassment
Riddle Sideways: hardest thing is to get over yourself
Yakuzza Lethecus: it´s a bit easier in second life for me since everyone is so far away
Riddle Sideways: Yak, you are no more and no less then anyone else
Yakuzza Lethecus: but as more as sl or pab or kira raisies in my interest as more problem´s i do get together with it in this relation
Yakuzza Lethecus: problem is i know that word, but i don´t feel like that
Yakuzza Lethecus: i know that ,,no human being is better then another"
Yakuzza Lethecus: i am even often in search for people to look up to around here but sure i problematize my own problem with equality
Riddle Sideways: wow, I bet that takes a lot of energy for you to do
Yakuzza Lethecus: only if i get stuck in my own thoughts
Riddle Sideways: yes
Yakuzza Lethecus: when i can´t express something when i get asked to become active
Yakuzza Lethecus: like when somebody asked me to tell about the 9 seconds
Yakuzza Lethecus: and i just didn´t make any fancy experience
Riddle Sideways: :)
Yakuzza Lethecus: and i don´t know what to be patient on(what even indicates that i didn´t really let go fot the 9 seconds)
Yakuzza Lethecus: in fact i don´t get into a meditative state for 9 seconds
Yakuzza Lethecus: not because i don´t want to
Yakuzza Lethecus: maybe even because i ,,want to" i can relax when i hear a lecture
Yakuzza Lethecus: i can drift into something like a mediatative state by accident for example when it´s raining
Riddle Sideways: thinks that we are using tooooo much energy at being loosened up
Yakuzza Lethecus: or on a thunderstorm
Riddle Sideways: a remembrance of a meditative state?
Yakuzza Lethecus: just a thoughtless momemnt of appreciation
Yakuzza Lethecus: thats what i would call meditative state
Riddle Sideways: this breathe reminds me of a sweet breathe I took 3 years ago :)
Riddle Sideways: an appreciation
Yakuzza Lethecus: it was nice chatting with you
Yakuzza Lethecus: i got to leave for now
Riddle Sideways: a remembrance of an appearance
Riddle Sideways: I had to leave minutes ago
Yakuzza Lethecus: bye and thx
Riddle Sideways: bye and have the good day