2009.10.09 01:00 - Brain crashes

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    Wol Euler was guardian and commenter for this session.


    sophia Placebo: morning

    Wol Euler: hello sophia

    Wol Euler: nice to see you again

    sophia Placebo: how are you ?

    Fael Illyar: Hi Wol, Sophia :)

    sophia Placebo: hi fael

    Wol Euler: hello fael

    Wol Euler: I'm well, thanks, but distracted by thoughts of work today and probably all weekend too :(

    Wol Euler: I'm having some trouble being in the moment.

    Fael Illyar: Ah... it happens. It's fine, everyone has moments like that sometimes :)

    Wol Euler: yeah, I know; but I still find it a little sad.

    Fael Illyar: I've found that being in the moment happens naturally when I give up trying to be in it.

    sophia Placebo: poor wol

    Fael Illyar: (but keep the will to be in it)

    Wol Euler: ty

    Wol Euler: and you? how are your studies going?

    Fael Illyar: me? sophia?

    Wol Euler: sophia, but feel free to comment.

    Fael Illyar: I'm good :) Had another heavy feeling morning but that's passed mostly already.

    Fael Illyar: not studying anything concrete for the moment so can't really say :)

    sophia Placebo: it is fine so far , though much must be done and studied , but im happy with how my brain functions these days , without crashes

    Wol Euler: :)

    Fael Illyar smiles.

    Wol Euler: yeah, I hate having to reboot after a brain crash.

    Fael Illyar: my brain crashes have become pretty infrequent lately :)

    sophia Placebo: lol

    sophia Placebo: cool feeling isnt fael

    Fael Illyar: although, I have to admit I'm not entirely sure what you mean with brain crashes :)

    sophia Placebo: hmm not sure myself either

    Fael Illyar: but yes, it's nice :)

    Wol Euler: what I think of when you say "brain crash" is the opposite of Flow


    Wol Euler: falling out of that state of concentration and immersion

    Fael Illyar smiles.

    sophia Placebo nods to wol

    Wol Euler: like a mental equivalent of suddenly losing your body memory for an activity.

    sophia Placebo: though im still working to fix the immersion card

    Fael Illyar: Ah, very nice analogy :)

    Wol Euler: standing there with a tool in your hand and suddenly no memory of how to use it.

    Wol Euler: is that what you meant? :)

    sophia Placebo: part of it yes

    sophia Placebo: well , crashes couldnt be the same for everyone me think

    Wol Euler nods

    Wol Euler: what triggers them for you? have you figured that out?

    sophia Placebo: the crashes?

    sophia Placebo: i maintain one willfully for years

    Wol Euler raises an eyebrow.

    sophia Placebo: ^^

    sophia Placebo: stupid girl iam i know

    Wol Euler: no.

    Wol Euler: tell us more? (unless it's private, then I'll ask again another time when we are not being recorded)

    sophia Placebo: just too many thoughts that i didnt need or couldnt use them , hmm not sure cuz that was years ago and i dont keep a notes

    Wol Euler nods

    sophia Placebo: so worked on my brain to stop it from making too many , but i crash it

    sophia Placebo: and that was a disaster , but i dont know if i regret what i've done

    Wol Euler: perhaps you might rather regret the circumstances that made you need to do that?

    sophia Placebo: nop

    Wol Euler: (though "regret" is not quite the right word for that)

    sophia Placebo: circumstances werent bad , merely a stupid method to managed too many thoughts

    Wol Euler: ah, ok; I was thinking in the wrong direction.

    Fael Illyar: well, that is circumstances too.

    sophia Placebo: hehe maybe


    Wol Euler: how do you manage them now? or are they no longer "too many"?

    sophia Placebo: im welcoming them , really missed them ^^

    Fael Illyar: I'm finding that when my head is too full of thoughts, I'm trying to distract myself from something.

    Wol Euler smiles

    sophia Placebo: still not that many but i hop i'll fix my mess

    Fael Illyar: if you fix a mess enough, it'll stop being a mess and be a masterpiece :)

    sophia Placebo: exactly that what i've should done fael , hmm sadly i didnt knew you befor so you could give that advice

    Fael Illyar: I couldn't have given it much before now :P

    Wol Euler nods and smiles.

    sophia Placebo: :)

    Wol Euler: the teacher arrives when the pupil is ready.

    sophia Placebo: true

    Wol Euler: me-right-now could have given me-as-teenager so much good advice, but me-as-teenager would not have listened, wasn't able to listen to that stuff then.

    sophia Placebo: poor teens

    Wol Euler: mmhmm

    Fael Illyar: yes... that's how it goes unfortunately.

    Fael Illyar: the advice would've needed to come much earlier in a different shape.

    Wol Euler: yep

    sophia Placebo: do we label teens sometimes ?


    Fael Illyar: "we" would mean who exactly?

    sophia Placebo: do we-adults- label teens , as taking them for granted that the do such and such

    Fael Illyar: yes and no would both equally valid answers but neither is true.

    Wol Euler: perhaps no more than we label each other?

    sophia Placebo: we do label also our teen selves too

    Wol Euler: and perhaps some of that is physically valid too.There are stages of development, e.g. all 2 year old children are annoying

    sophia Placebo: :)

    sophia Placebo: 2 year old dosnt understand the abstract , true

    Wol Euler: labelling ourselves, yes.

    Wol Euler: in subtle ways too, like the kind of other teens we hang around with, which groups we join

    sophia Placebo nods

    sophia Placebo: and some labels are still sticking on our backs or forehead

    Wol Euler: mmhmm

    sophia Placebo: seen as piece of skin

    Wol Euler: phone, brb

    sophia Placebo: i g2g , sorry if i've been talkative and bored you , see you later !

    Fael Illyar: See you later Sophia :)

    Fael Illyar: No, you haven't bored us... at least not me

    sophia Placebo: :)


    Fael Illyar: wb Wol :)

    Wol Euler: ty!

    Wol Euler: sorry about that...

    Wol Euler: and now, work calls :/

    Wol Euler: bye for now, take care, be happy

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