2009.10.09 07:00 - What do guardians guard?

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    Wol Euler recovered this session from the autologging database. Genesis appears to have been the GoC.

    Mary Korpov: ok and you?

    Bolonath Crystal: namaste genesis

    Mary Korpov: No idea what "namaste" means, however

    Bolonath Crystal: thx, fine, mary

    Bolonath Crystal: namaste means: i am greeting your inner light

    genesis Zhangsun: Hi Bolonath!

    genesis Zhangsun: Hey Mary!

    Mary Korpov: Is there a version to greet with inner darkness? That would probably be more appropriate for me

    Bolonath Crystal: hm... i don't know

    genesis Zhangsun: Is this your first day here as guardian Bolonath?

    Mary Korpov: What do guardians guard?

    Bolonath Crystal: i am not here as a guardian actually, only for a short visit. i have to leave in about 15 minutes

    genesis Zhangsun: ah okay

    genesis Zhangsun: well welcome

    Bolonath Crystal: ty

    genesis Zhangsun: I saw that you just became a guardian

    Bolonath Crystal: we have to take care that nobody takes away the pillows, mary ;))

    Mary Korpov: I see. They aren't that attractive, so I don't think you have to worry

    Bolonath Crystal: :D

    genesis Zhangsun: So how are you finding the 9 second exloration Bolonath?

    Bolonath Crystal: somewhat irritating. i am used to longer meditation sessions


    genesis Zhangsun: what part feels irritating?

    Mary Korpov: Just read that Obama won the Nobel PEace Prize

    Bolonath Crystal: during a long meditation session the mind is able to reach a different state of awareness. during 90 sec the experience doesn't go as deep

    Mary Korpov: I'm not yet convinced that the 90 second approach works very well

    Yakuzza Lethecus: hey everyone

    Bolonath Crystal: namaste yakuzza

    Mary Korpov: hi

    genesis Zhangsun: yes I suppose there are differences based on the amount of time given for practice

    Mary Korpov: I agree with Bolonath

    genesis Zhangsun: however what I find 9 seconds or 90 seconds useful for is the integration part

    Mary Korpov: I don't really meditate, but see this as an ongoing state of mind

    genesis Zhangsun: how I take a longer practice into my daily life

    genesis Zhangsun: yes exactly Mary

    genesis Zhangsun: Hi Yaku!

    genesis Zhangsun: It seems important not only to go deeper but also to find a way for your "normal" everyday life to benefit from the depth

    Bolonath Crystal: that's true. the insights from meditation must become parts of everyday life

    Bolonath Crystal: otherwise they won't be very useful at all

    Mary Korpov: I don't gain insights when I meditate, so I don't do it often. For me, insights come from everyday life

    genesis Zhangsun: I agree Mary

    genesis Zhangsun: and for some the 9 seconds is good reminder to see more into everyday life

    Mary Korpov: stop and smell the roses?

    genesis Zhangsun: we can get so caught up in our conditioned patterned ways of thinking that we forget

    genesis Zhangsun: yes :)

    genesis Zhangsun: nice way to put it

    Bolonath Crystal: :)

    Mary Korpov: Well it was not exactly original

    genesis Zhangsun: no simple but true

    Mary Korpov: Something of a cliche, actually

    genesis Zhangsun: sometimes I feel like if we just take one simple, even very cliche thing to heart it could change alot in our lives

    Mary Korpov: Or turn us into large, walking cliches

    Bolonath Crystal: sorry, but i've got to go to work...

    Mary Korpov: so long

    Bolonath Crystal: have a pleasant meeting :)

    Bolonath Crystal: bye

    Yakuzza Lethecus: bye bolo

    genesis Zhangsun: see u Bolonath nice to meet you

    Mary Korpov: So what do you think of Obama winning the Nobel Peace Prize?

    Yakuzza Lethecus: what did he do ?

    Mary Korpov: Nothing, so far. I think he won it on the grounds that he is not Bush.

    Yakuzza Lethecus: so it's more a task then a price i guess

    genesis Zhangsun: lol

    Yakuzza Lethecus: right, it's really hard to find the reasons they had in mind

    Mary Korpov: Europeans seem to be very enamored of Obama (I like him, too) and rather simplistically wowed by his oratory power

    Yakuzza Lethecus: even yesterday i read that the usa are threatening the iran again with a bunkerbreaker bomb

    Yakuzza Lethecus: and obama gets the nobel price today

    Mary Korpov: Well, doing something about Iran is certainly needed.

    Yakuzza Lethecus: ok, no rocket defence against iranian icbm's

    Yakuzza Lethecus: which they only propably have :)

    Mary Korpov: They just tested them, didn't they?


    Yakuzza Lethecus: ok europe is also an other continent :P

    Yakuzza Lethecus: but they won't reach the states

    Mary Korpov: Well, last time I looked, I think we had a mutual defense agreement with most of Europe. I think they call it NATO

    Mary Korpov: Maybe politics is not a good topic. Only met Genesis once, but she doesn't seem like the sort that is interested in political discussions

    Yakuzza Lethecus: oh, politics is fine around here

    Yakuzza Lethecus: i don't have a specific opinion and try to get updates on what i have in mind

    genesis Zhangsun: oh no I am quite interested in politics

    Yakuzza Lethecus: so i google what kind of rockets they have atm

    genesis Zhangsun: especially in the proper forum

    Mary Korpov: The New Yorker has a very good article on women's rights (or the complete lack thereof) in Iran right now. Worth reading.

    Yakuzza Lethecus: U.S. officials have stated that the two-stage version of this Taepo Dong-2C/Taepo Dong-3 missile has a range of 10,000 kilometers and a three-stage version can fly 15,000 kilometers, enabling it to cover all of the United States.[12] It is difficult, however, to verify the accuracy of the information in these reports. North Korea and Iran would only have confidence in the Taepo Dong-2 or an improved Taepo Dong-2C/Taepo Dong-3 after a few successful tests of the system.

    Yakuzza Lethecus: ok, they might be able to thread the states

    Yakuzza Lethecus: threat

    Mary Korpov: And I suspect if they can, they will attack the US. The Iranian gov doesn't seem to exactly be the best friend of the USA

    Yakuzza Lethecus: i don't know, it's so hard to bring peace to the region

    Mary Korpov: But if an effort isn't made, then we will all suffer until we get off of the oil addiction

    Yakuzza Lethecus: And there is another country which ,,had bio weapons" and it turned out that it was no threat at all

    Yakuzza Lethecus: what do you guys do in canada as alternative energyforms ?

    Yakuzza Lethecus: i guess solar isn't an option up there :)

    Yakuzza Lethecus: ah she left

    Yakuzza Lethecus: hey arch

    Archmage Atlantis: Hello Yak, Genesis

    Yakuzza Lethecus: how are you arch ?

    genesis Zhangsun: Hi Archmage

    Archmage Atlantis: Reflective, I suppose is the best vocabulary word I can pull up Yak, thank you for asking....I'm not to talkative today

    genesis Zhangsun: I guess we are also reflective :_

    genesis Zhangsun: :)

    Archmage Atlantis: :)

    genesis Zhangsun: I think this is the first time I am meeting you Arch

    genesis Zhangsun: nice to meet u

    Archmage Atlantis: I believe that is accurate also Genesis

    Archmage Atlantis: Nice to met you also

    genesis Zhangsun: are you doing the 9 seconds practice Arch?


    Archmage Atlantis: Not in a formal way, no, I am homebound the last couple of years, so the busy life I once lead no longer intrudes..I do pratice awareness throughout the day as part of my life

    genesis Zhangsun: Ah Arch perhaps we have met!

    genesis Zhangsun: I believe you shared with me as to why you were homebound

    Archmage Atlantis: Perhaps, I remember your current position with Kira as indicated in your profile

    Archmage Atlantis: Actually, we may have been at a quiet meeting like this one

    genesis Zhangsun: sorry I am balancing the 3 year old who just woke up :)

    Archmage Atlantis: :)) - now that sounds familiar *grin*

    genesis Zhangsun: do you have children Arch?

    Archmage Atlantis: No, never have had any......was not my path

    Archmage Atlantis: I enjoy talking to them however

    genesis Zhangsun: hmm my last message seems to have disspapeared

    genesis Zhangsun: I was just saying I enjoy talking to them too

    genesis Zhangsun: so long as they are not trying to tear my hair out

    Yakuzza Lethecus: i am going to the cafe now

    Yakuzza Lethecus: so, bye for now or cya there

    genesis Zhangsun: okay see you Yaku

    Archmage Atlantis: They are full beings, in a young RL body, .....that is the advangage of not being a parent, I am given the gift of talking to them without RL responsibilities

    Archmage Atlantis: Later Yak

    genesis Zhangsun: indeed that makes a difference Arch :)

    Archmage Atlantis: My animals give me a taste of what it must be like, but not the full reality :)

    genesis Zhangsun: what kind of practices do you do Arch to maintain daily awareness?


    Archmage Atlantis: Sorry to interrupt the bell, but I have to go......take care until we met again Genesis....Blessings

    genesis Zhangsun: bye Arch

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