2009.10.17 19:00 - Return of an Old Friend

The Guardian for this meeting was Pema Pera. The comments are by Pema Pera.

Pema Pera: Hi Arch!
Archmage Atlantis: Hello, Pema
Archmage Atlantis: Unusual time to be here for you
Pema Pera: not for Saturday, since this is my weekly slot
Pema Pera: but yes, normally I like to go to bed around this time
Pema Pera: Hi Trish!
Trish LittleBoots: hi pema
Trish LittleBoots: how are you
Pema Pera: Fine, and how about you?
Trish LittleBoots: are you ok arch
Pila Mulligan: hello Trish, Arch and Pema
Trish LittleBoots: good a little sick but ok ty
Trish LittleBoots: hi pila
Pema Pera: Have you visited us before, Trish?
Trish LittleBoots: yes
Pema Pera: So you know that we record our conversations on our web log
Trish LittleBoots: yes
Pema Pera: http://playasbeing.wik.is/
Pema Pera: hi Pila!
Archmage Atlantis: Does having divine revalation count as ok *grin*
Pema Pera: ?
Trish LittleBoots: yes...smiles
Archmage Atlantis: Sorry Pema. I did not expect you to be here
Trish LittleBoots: got message from star was worried
Pema Pera: How are things with you, Pila?

Pila Mulligan: all is well, lovely day today, thanks
Pema Pera: you said it rains more in Hawaii in the winter -- did that start already?
Pila Mulligan: yes, kind of
Pila Mulligan: the rainy season is ont well defined as to start/stopo time
Pila Mulligan: but we are getting there
Pema Pera: every day short showers, or more or less continuous?
Pila Mulligan: yes to both on occasion
Pila Mulligan: some monsoon rains
Pila Mulligan: some pelasant showers
Pila Mulligan: where I live aveagres about 180 inches a year
Pema Pera: wow, that's quite a bit!
Pila Mulligan: probably 60% of that is in Nov-Mar
Archmage Atlantis: Sounds like FL a bit Pila
Pila Mulligan: :)
Pila Mulligan: it is a rainforest
Pila Mulligan: tropical areas seem to have these two season conditions
Archmage Atlantis: But not a swamp
Pila Mulligan: semi-tropical tto for FL
Pila Mulligan: no aligators :)
Archmage Atlantis: Yet, some kid will sneak one in
Archmage Atlantis: It wll breed
Pila Mulligan: yes, they do that, but fortunately they are caught before they can become establiahsed
Trish LittleBoots: happens all the time
Archmage Atlantis: Like the pythons here
Pila Mulligan: usually the pets are released one at a time, so it is not as easy for them to establish
--BELL--
Archmage Atlantis: Give it time, nature always wins

Pila Mulligan: Trish do many of your Sukelu group memebrs actually have Native American blood?
Trish LittleBoots: yes many do but many also just wish to live the native ways and learn
Pila Mulligan: yep, I am in the latter classification
Archmage Atlantis: Which native amerind?
Pila Mulligan: long time subscriber to Akwesasne Notes, when it wa spublished
Pila Mulligan: Iroquois, now NAtive Hawaiian
Trish LittleBoots: yes
Pila Mulligan: Haudenosaunee
Archmage Atlantis: Genetics points to 3 migrations
Pila Mulligan: have you heard of John MOhawk?
Pila Mulligan: late professor at SUNY
Trish LittleBoots: name sounds familiar
Pila Mulligan: he published Akwesasne Notes when it started
Trish LittleBoots: oic
Trish LittleBoots: k
Pila Mulligan: went on toe be Dept Head in Ethnic Studies, I believe
Pema Pera: Hi Steve!
Pila Mulligan: very delightful person
Pila Mulligan: hi Steve
stevenaia Michinaga: hello
Trish LittleBoots: hi steve
stevenaia Michinaga: hello Trish, Pema, Arch, Pila
Archmage Atlantis: You have chosen the tatto Steve
stevenaia Michinaga: a gift
Archmage Atlantis: Yes, my partner
stevenaia Michinaga: thought it would make trish comfortable :)
Trish LittleBoots: ty
Trish LittleBoots: yes i have one as well
stevenaia Michinaga: you are wearing it
Trish LittleBoots: yes
stevenaia Michinaga: I should put on my wings too
stevenaia Michinaga: but don;t let me interrupt
Pila Mulligan: :)
Pila Mulligan: you're not interrupting Steve
Trish LittleBoots: not at all
Pila Mulligan: Arch, I wonder if you were interested in saying more about your previous reference to divine revelation?
Archmage Atlantis: Pema is gathering
Pila Mulligan: if it matters, the recorder can be turned off for a while
Archmage Atlantis: I would prefer it to remain on
Pila Mulligan: that's the default option, nothing to do then :)
Archmage Atlantis: Actually that is my topic
Pila Mulligan: ok
Trish LittleBoots: k

Archmage Atlantis: Why do we chose secrets
Pila Mulligan: privacy?
Trish LittleBoots: people fear that which they do not understand
Archmage Atlantis: Fear
Trish LittleBoots: it plays yes
Trish LittleBoots: in
Archmage Atlantis: So fear, what can be done to me that I should fear?
Pila Mulligan: depneds
Pila Mulligan: ... on what you are afraid of
Archmage Atlantis: Less and less
Pila Mulligan: :)
Archmage Atlantis: I sit here in your presence and speak
stevenaia Michinaga: when you no longer fear... what is really lost?
Archmage Atlantis: That is whatI ask
Trish LittleBoots: nothing imo you gain a freedom
--BELL--
stevenaia Michinaga: yes
Archmage Atlantis: My sister is afraid
Trish LittleBoots: fear is also a type of guard...but released in due time
Trish LittleBoots: when one overcomes that which they fear
stevenaia Michinaga: strage when you cannot understay why people fear something, Gay Marriage comes to mind, I always wonders what it maters to those who fear it, it the do
stevenaia Michinaga: it does nothing to them
Trish LittleBoots: true
stevenaia Michinaga: uet their concern is real to them it threatens somehow
stevenaia Michinaga: *yet
Trish LittleBoots: that is it still fear of something that is not understood by many
stevenaia Michinaga: opposite of fear... acceptance?
Trish LittleBoots: acceptance and release
Trish LittleBoots: yes
stevenaia Michinaga: :)
Trish LittleBoots: lol
Archmage Atlantis: Opposite of fear is in the seconds
Archmage Atlantis: practiced here
Trish LittleBoots: to let one be who they are is truly...freedom
Pila Mulligan: hi Eos
Archmage Atlantis: Did Pila and Pema fall asleep? - I know I do that
Trish LittleBoots: hi eos
Pema Pera: Hi Eos!
stevenaia Michinaga: acceptance, openness, appreciation, all have their own entropy about them, leaving their opposites in their wake

Eos Amaterasu: HI Pema, Pila, Steven, Trish
stevenaia Michinaga: hello Eos
Eos Amaterasu: oh, & Archmage
Pema Pera: it must be pretty late in Halifax by now, Eos!
Archmage Atlantis: Well. Eos, have a cushion
stevenaia Michinaga: seems we keep him up late often
Eos Amaterasu: Just got back from a "Halifax Nocturne" evening, galleries and art places open late
Trish LittleBoots: wonderful
Pema Pera: sounds great!
Pema Pera: Hi Hotaru!
Eos Amaterasu: Wow!
Pema Pera: Great to see you again, after such a long time!
Hotaru Myoo: Hi Pema!

Pema Pera: Steve, you are the only one here remembering Hotaru, I bet
Pila Mulligan: hi Hotaru
Pema Pera: from more than a year ago, back in the tea house in Rieul
Hotaru Myoo: hi Pila
Trish LittleBoots: hi hotaru
Hotaru Myoo: hi Trish
Pila Mulligan: nice outfit
stevenaia Michinaga: hmmmm, it has been so long, bearly remember
Hotaru Myoo: arigato
--BELL--
Pila Mulligan: douitashimashite
Hotaru Myoo: this is a nice touch
Pema Pera: you see, Hotaru, we have upped the ante from 9 sec to 90 sec, at least during our sessions here
Hotaru Myoo nods to Pila
Hotaru Myoo: I like that
Pema Pera: it does make an interesting difference in the conversations, these breaks
Hotaru Myoo: a bit of time to go form something to nothing and back to something
Hotaru Myoo: from*
Pema Pera: yes
Pema Pera: how have you been, Hotaru, all this time?
Archmage Atlantis: This is rude of me, but ask your RL body location
Hotaru Myoo: ?
Hotaru Myoo: aask it what?
Pila Mulligan: :)
Hotaru Myoo: body where are you?
Pema Pera: :)
Pema Pera: never mind
Hotaru Myoo: haha
Hotaru Myoo: ever mind
Pema Pera: all mind
Hotaru Myoo: all the time
Eos Amaterasu: no matter
Pema Pera: mind your body

Hotaru Myoo: has anyone read Nothing
Hotaru Myoo: by Jim Sloman?
Trish LittleBoots: no i have not
Eos Amaterasu: Yes, I've never read anything by him
Hotaru Myoo: (is this 'ok' to talk about?)
Trish LittleBoots: interesting
Trish LittleBoots: i think all is open
Eos Amaterasu: http://www.amazon.com/Nothing-2nd-Jim-Sloman/dp/1886779155
Hotaru Myoo: it is about the nature of the mind
Hotaru Myoo: always awake
Hotaru Myoo: always chatting
Pema Pera: I don't know the book, but I like the title!
Hotaru Myoo: running away from death
Hotaru Myoo: old
Hotaru Myoo: but it keeps resonating
Trish LittleBoots: a flower dies and is reborn...what is death
Hotaru Myoo: how the mind is always in misery, because it can never be in the present moment
Pema Pera: yes, that is a familiar problem . . . .
Pema Pera: one reason we like the 9 sec practice . . . .
Hotaru Myoo: yes
Hotaru Myoo: as humans...the mind can never truly play
Hotaru Myoo: it hasn't any future or past in it
Pema Pera: does the writer give hints as to how to get past those seeming barriers?
Hotaru Myoo: seek the title..
Hotaru Myoo: Nothing
Hotaru Myoo: find the present
Hotaru Myoo: Now
Trish LittleBoots: live the moment
Pema Pera: sound advice . . . but still may not be that easy to implement, or to know how to start
Hotaru Myoo: the mind must have a purpose
Hotaru Myoo: it is a hard thing to quiet
Hotaru Myoo: so restless we are
Trish LittleBoots: but the heart does not
Hotaru Myoo: pur fear of annihilation
Pema Pera: an alternative is to accept the disquiet and just watch it
Hotaru Myoo: yes
Pema Pera: but without adding more fuel to the fire
Hotaru Myoo: understand
Hotaru Myoo: and observe
Hotaru Myoo: but that is the scientific way
Hotaru Myoo: not the emotional
Hotaru Myoo: we play into our heats
Hotaru Myoo: our mind
Hotaru Myoo: our fears
--BELL--
Hotaru Myoo: to truncate it is to deny our hearts
Pema Pera: we can respect emotions and really feel them yet not buy into them or get obsessed by them
Pema Pera: hi Mary
Trish LittleBoots: hi mary
Hotaru Myoo: hi mary
Pila Mulligan: hey Mary
Mary Korpov: hi
Eos Amaterasu: :-)
Pema Pera: well, I think I'll go get some sleep
Pema Pera: good seeing y'all
Pila Mulligan: bye Pema
Eos Amaterasu: 'night pema

Trish LittleBoots: gn pema so good to see you again....sleep well
Hotaru Myoo: ditto
Hotaru Myoo: nite P
Eos Amaterasu: think I'll turn in as well
Archmage Atlantis: Am I still here? My PC turned over, unplugged the network
Eos Amaterasu: ciao, all
Pema Pera: bye everybody
Trish LittleBoots: nite eos sleep well
Hotaru Myoo: good to meet all of you
Trish LittleBoots: yes
Trish LittleBoots: yes arch
Archmage Atlantis: TY Trish
Trish LittleBoots: yvw
Hotaru Myoo: trish, I used to wear wings (in a former Hotaru life) they look great on you!
Trish LittleBoots: thank you so much
Trish LittleBoots: as do you
Hotaru Myoo nods...ty
stevenaia Michinaga: I must be off
stevenaia Michinaga: nice seeing you again
Trish LittleBoots: nite steve
Trish LittleBoots: nice seeing you
Pila Mulligan: bye Steve
Archmage Atlantis: Nice ejaculation departure. grin
Hotaru Myoo: the new PAB 'place' is interesting
Trish LittleBoots: very nice
Pila Mulligan: have you met Strom Hotaru, he made most of this
Mary Korpov: Kind of odd
Hotaru Myoo: seems more of a 'power' place than the humble beginnings
Pila Mulligan: Storm*
Hotaru Myoo: yes
Hotaru Myoo: I know Storm from the "wayback'
Mary Korpov: Strange mix of styles
Pila Mulligan: he had some rl model in mind for this pavillaion
Hotaru Myoo: he is quite a builder
Pila Mulligan: not sure what it was
Hotaru Myoo: ahhh
Pila Mulligan: he is a good builder, indeed
Hotaru Myoo: the circle motif is good
Hotaru Myoo: but kinda clinical..
Hotaru Myoo: ^^
Pila Mulligan: :)
Hotaru Myoo: (I didn't say that)
Archmage Atlantis: Mary, we enter a new era, the mix, it is the past brought forward
Mary Korpov: I have no idea what that meant
Hotaru Myoo: haha
Hotaru Myoo: me either
Hotaru Myoo: are you all listening to a stream?
Mary Korpov: Stream of what?
Archmage Atlantis: Hotaru, If Moon were here, you would be surrounded in plants
Hotaru Myoo: audio
Trish LittleBoots: so true arch
Hotaru Myoo: yes
Mary Korpov: not me, why
Trish LittleBoots: but nicely done
Hotaru Myoo: this place needs some vounteer plants between the stone
Hotaru Myoo: life
Hotaru Myoo: volunteer*
Trish LittleBoots: last time i was here it did
Mary Korpov: Archmage, can you explain that statement you made? I really had no idea what you intended
Hotaru Myoo: about the past brought forward?
Mary Korpov: yes
Hotaru Myoo: yes, I am curious too
Archmage Atlantis: This statement Mary, we enter a new era, the mix, it is the past brought forward"
Archmage Atlantis: Yes I an
Mary Korpov: I still have no idea what that means
Pila Mulligan: it may have been a response to "[20:07] Mary Korpov: Strange mix of styles"
Pila Mulligan: just guessing :)
Mary Korpov: Yes, but I still have no idea what it means...
Archmage Atlantis: Yes Pila
--BELL--
Archmage Atlantis: A viseral one
Mary Korpov: Apparently, I'm not going to find out, either
Archmage Atlantis: Well, I did not say that
Pila Mulligan: welcome Paradise
Hotaru Myoo: oki...drop the veil
Hotaru Myoo: hi Paradise
Trish LittleBoots: hi paradise
Paradise Tennant: good evening everyone :)
Archmage Atlantis: It was quite simple to me, Mary
Mary Korpov: Glad it was to someone.
Archmage Atlantis: The artifacts here are of ancient design
Mary Korpov: I guess
Hotaru Myoo: yes, but...
Hotaru Myoo: sterile
Mary Korpov: I thought they wer eof modern design. They didn't have SL in ancient times
Archmage Atlantis: They require new life to dontinue
Hotaru Myoo: in an environment that is meant to stimulate communication?
Hotaru Myoo: pfft
Mary Korpov: Why do they need new life? Several of those designs are still used today.
Archmage Atlantis: Good question
Hotaru Myoo: oki...has Pema made a suggestion box?
Hotaru Myoo: haha
Archmage Atlantis: Let me think
Trish LittleBoots: lol
Mary Korpov: Who is "oki"?
Hotaru Myoo: we want wood, straw, plants, water
Hotaru Myoo: get rid of the stone
Hotaru Myoo: oki is 'OK'
Pila Mulligan: :)
Mary Korpov: Careful about the "we", there. I like the stone
Archmage Atlantis: This world comes to an end
Hotaru Myoo: sterile
Mary Korpov: What world?
Hotaru Myoo: no it doesn't
Archmage Atlantis: It was a nursery of our life
Mary Korpov: I wasn't aware that any world was comeing to an end
Trish LittleBoots: newe beginnings
Archmage Atlantis: You asked, I give you my answer
Mary Korpov: Is this riddle night at PaB?
Hotaru Myoo: ahh
Hotaru Myoo: new beginnings
Hotaru Myoo: that is something I'd like to engage with
Hotaru Myoo: sure, why not
Mary Korpov: what is?
Hotaru Myoo: Mary!
Hotaru Myoo: new beginnings
Mary Korpov: I am completely lost. I have no idea what this conversation is about
Hotaru Myoo: it is what it is
Hotaru Myoo: what would you like it to be about?
Mary Korpov: Now there's a cliche if I've ever heard one
Hotaru Myoo: stike it
Mary Korpov: I would like it to make sense; I don't care what it is about really
Hotaru Myoo: oki
Hotaru Myoo: let's talk about the mind
Mary Korpov: which one?