2009.11.05 13:00 - Mata Amritanandamayi 'Amma'

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Lia Rikugun. The comments are by Lia Rikugun.

    Lia Rikugun: hello eden hello vertram
    Lia Rikugun: bertram
    Bertram Jacobus: hi eden hi lia :-)
    Lia Rikugun: how are you?
    Bertram Jacobus: i have a friend here (rl) so i´m abit busy with him, too ... sry please ... ;-)
    Lia Rikugun: oh no problem
    Lia Rikugun: :)
    Bertram Jacobus: tyvm :-))
    Lia Rikugun: what would you like to talk about?
    Eden Haiku: Hi Bertram, hi Lia,
    Bertram Jacobus: no needs to talk at the moment ... ;-) (for me) ... :-)
    Lia Rikugun: oh thats fine :)
    Lia Rikugun: we had an interesting discussion during the time workshop

    Bertram has a friend visiting from india who lives in an Ashram with Amma as 'guru' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mata_Amritanandamayi

    Bertram Jacobus: he lives in an ashram in india and visits me here in germany ... :-)
    Bertram Jacobus: uh. which topic ? :-)
    Lia Rikugun: where we are currently reading the Time Space and Knowledge book
    Eden Haiku: I thought I heard the bell and I was trying to remain silent but it should be ringing again after 90 seconds?
    Lia Rikugun: oh sorry
    Bertram Jacobus: yes. the second bell did not occure (!) ... :o)
    Lia Rikugun: i interrupted you
    Lia Rikugun: so bertram maybe tell us from your friends experiences
    Eden Haiku: Well m it did not ring again. So I guess I was mistaken, Maybe it was my washing machine. I'm doing laundry ;-)
    Lia Rikugun: this sounds interesting
    Lia Rikugun: :)
    Eden Haiku: Very much so;-)
    Bertram Jacobus: he tells me just in the moment from the ashram life ...
    Lia Rikugun: we want to know too ;)
    Eden Haiku: Wjat is this Book of Time Sapce and Knowledge Lia?
    Bertram Jacobus: the guru there is "amma" ...
    Lia Rikugun: i have not heard of amma
    Eden Haiku: Amma the one who takes people in her arms?
    Bertram Jacobus: in google you can find a lot of her i guess
    Bertram Jacobus: exactly eden ! :-)
    Lia Rikugun: http://www.amazon.com/Time-Space-Kno.../dp/0913546089
    Lia Rikugun: i have to google amma

    Eden met Amma in Paris and hugged her :)

    Eden Haiku: I found myself in her arms near Paris a few years ago. A great experience.
    Lia Rikugun: wow
    Bertram Jacobus: wow ? :-)
    Lia Rikugun: (just reading a little bit about her)
    Bertram Jacobus: nice ... :-)
    Eden Haiku: As she repeated the syllabe «ma, ma, ma, ma», I was sent into the cosmos, in the Virgin Mary's embrace and I almost cried for my own Mom, who was still alive then.
    Lia Rikugun: this sounds amazing and certainly moving
    Eden Haiku: It lasted only seconds, then seh gave me some wrap candy as a sign it was time to leave for yhe next person. But wow!
    Bertram Jacobus: you are always so kind , most people here ... so kind ... :-)
    Eden Haiku: Yes, this circle here is such a nice place.
    Lia Rikugun: :)
    Eden Haiku: Pila. How are you today;-)?
    Pila Mulligan: hi Eden, Bertram and Lia
    Lia Rikugun: hello pila
    Bertram Jacobus: hio pila ... :-)
    Pila Mulligan: I fine thanks
    Lia Rikugun: we were talking about amma
    Lia Rikugun: and eden told us that she had the chance to meet her
    Pila Mulligan: yes, I've heard of her
    Lia Rikugun: a friend of bertram is living in an ashram
    Lia Rikugun: (as a short summary of our discussion ;)
    Lia Rikugun: so bertram what are you rfriends experiences? I am curious, I dont know anyone who lives in an ashram?
    Eden Haiku: I suppose is friend is talking to Bertram right now...

    Amma has supposedly hugged 50,000 people in a day!!!

    Pila Mulligan: 'she has been known to individually hug over 50,000 people in a day" -- wiki :)
    Eden Haiku: We have a dierct access to one of Amma's disciple;-)
    Pila Mulligan: that's alot of hugs
    Bertram Jacobus: The most important thing is: find it out by yourself. I can only say, it#s very inspiring but sometimes it#s also ver tough. So you are invited to visit the Ashram if you like.
    Bertram Jacobus: (my friend wrote that!) :-)
    Lia Rikugun: ah
    Eden Haiku: Yeah. When I got mine, we were hundreds of people in a very hot high school in France. But as i got closer to her, it felt so cool.
    Eden Haiku: There were fans on the stage ;-)
    Lia Rikugun: :)
    Bertram Jacobus: The address is: Mata Amritanandamayi Math, Distr. Kollam, Kerala. Or you go to amritapuri.org
    Bertram Jacobus: (he seems VERY inspired of it) ... ;-)
    Eden Haiku: Say hello to him from me here!

    Bertrams friend has stayed in the ashram for 3 and a half years and can stay there for a lifetime

    Bertram Jacobus: and he paid a certain amount that he can stay there now for livetime (!) ...
    Eden Haiku: Her embrace ws very very tender. It removed a certain fear I had in getting physically close.
    Bertram Jacobus: that should be three and a half years back, in paris he says ... :-)
    Bertram Jacobus: sorry. misunderstanding here - he lives since three and a half years in the ashram
    Eden Haiku: That was back in 1994. I lived in Paris then, for a while. It was in a place called Colombe I think.
    Eden Haiku: Oh sorry. That is a very long time in an ashram. He must be very happy.
    Bertram Jacobus: he laughs and says both happens, happyness and sorrow ... ;-)
    Eden Haiku: ;-)
    Bertram Jacobus: and he adds its a long way to the great goal ... ;-)
    Bertram Jacobus: no enlightenment for peanuts ... is his next comment ... :o)
    Lia Rikugun: HAHA
    Pila Mulligan: how about snoopy
    Lia Rikugun: ;) ;)
    Pila Mulligan: :)
    Eden Haiku: How about Snoopy, right. Isn't he enlightened already our dear beagle?
    Bertram Jacobus: But anyway, for most of the visitors it#s very inspiring there.
    Pila Mulligan: yep, holy beagle
    Eden Haiku: The creator of Snoopy passed away recently, I forgot his name. Do you remember?
    Bertram Jacobus: the word "enlightenment" is not yet clearly defined...
    Eden Haiku: ;-) quite right Bertram...
    Pila Mulligan: Schultz?
    Eden Haiku: Yes, that,s it. Schultz. Peace to his soul. He made me laugh a lot.
    Lia Rikugun: charles m schultz
    Bertram Jacobus: in earlier years there were rumours that also Walt Disney was enlightened...
    Eden Haiku: Ads a writer, I totally identify with Snoopy the novelist...
    Pila Mulligan: your freind is in Amritapuri, Bert?
    Bertram Jacobus: yes
    Eden Haiku: Disney, for sure, is cryogenesed. He has a chance of becoming enlightened in the years to come...
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hey everyone
    Pila Mulligan: hi Yak
    Pila Mulligan: [90 sec]
    Pila Mulligan: the website says "the ashram started in a cowshed next to Amma's family's house" :) great things from humble origins
    Lia Rikugun: hello yakuzza
    Bertram Jacobus: hi yaku :-)
    Eden Haiku: hello Yakuzza!
    Bertram Jacobus: The temple was originally a cowshed, Pila
    Pila Mulligan: :)
    Bertram Jacobus: She gave darshan in this little cowshed until the early nineties
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hi wol
    Bertram Jacobus: hello wol ... :-)
    Wol Euler: hello invisibles, sorry I'm late
    Pila Mulligan: hi Wol
    Lia Rikugun: hello wol
    Wol Euler: hello pila, eden, bert, lia, yaku
    Pila Mulligan: Wol takes the symmetry seat, of course
    Wol Euler: of course :)
    Lia Rikugun: haha :)
    Pila Mulligan: we played a symetry game here last night
    Wol Euler: well, we all have our little hobbies

    playing onigokko....................

    Yakuzza Lethecus: why does onigokko sometimes make a little rat tail and sometimes not ?
    Pila Mulligan: people jumping around making and breaking symmetry in seating
    Wol Euler: ah, ther are two different kinds :)
    Wol Euler: there's an invisible kind that attaches to your eyeball
    Lia Rikugun: i have the rat tail ;)
    Eden Haiku: onigokko, i was looking for the name. That was so much fun Pila!
    Pila Mulligan: :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: onigokko
    Wol Euler: heheheheh
    Lia Rikugun: hahahaha
    Yakuzza Lethecus: stop
    Wol Euler: stop
    Wol Euler: onigokko
    Yakuzza Lethecus: just type stop when you want to stop it
    Wol Euler giggles
    Eden Haiku: I could get addicted to that!

    stevenaia arrives while we are dancing around! his feet are on fire and he is standing in the pond..

    Pila Mulligan: flame guy
    Eden Haiku: Hello Steve. Right timing;-)
    Lia Rikugun: on fire!
    stevenaia Michinaga: I think I jsut elct this meeting
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hi steve :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: left
    Yakuzza Lethecus: onigokko
    Pila Mulligan: Burings Steve in the pond no less
    Pila Mulligan: stop
    Lia Rikugun: hello steve
    Pila Mulligan: for Steve onigokko
    Wol Euler: stop
    Wol Euler: oh dear.
    Bertram Jacobus: lol
    Pila Mulligan: onigokko
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i am still running :)
    Wol Euler: burning man.
    Pila Mulligan: running meditation
    Eden Haiku: stop
    stevenaia Michinaga: a little excercise?
    Wol Euler: would anyone else like hte invisible one?
    Lia Rikugun: thank you wol, I like the rat tail one very much ;)
    Wol Euler: ok :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: wonders what the topic could have been?
    Pila Mulligan: hugging gurus
    Lia Rikugun: oh sorry
    Bertram Jacobus: hi steve ... sry - bit late ... ;-)
    Lia Rikugun: yes we were talking abou tamma
    stevenaia Michinaga: smiles
    Lia Rikugun: amma
    Pila Mulligan: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mata_Amritanandamayi
    Lia Rikugun: a friend of bertram stayes in an ashram where she is the 'guru'
    Pila Mulligan: "she has been known to individually hug over 50,000 people in a day"
    Wol Euler: what?
    Lia Rikugun: !!!! :)
    Eden Haiku: Running like mad mice/On onigokko fast track/We empty our minds
    Pila Mulligan: :)
    Lia Rikugun: (reminds me of people giving free hugs at union square:)
    Wol Euler: sorry, pila, I don't believe that.
    Pila Mulligan: yes, Lia
    Pila Mulligan: but wiki says so Wol :)
    Eden Haiku: Phone;-)

    Wol calculates how many people Amma must have hugged in one minute to hug 50,000 a day: 34

    Wol Euler: that's 2083 people an hour, for 24 hours straight; 34 a minute.
    Wol Euler: nice one, Eden :)
    Pila Mulligan: here's another one -- the wiki footnnote -- "Three years ago, on her birthday in India, "she hugged 75,000 people in 23 hours, 20 minutes," says Padmini Pooleri of Germantown, Md.,"
    Pila Mulligan: http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2006-07-18-amma-humanitarian_x.htm
    Wol Euler: sorry, I've just come from the office, I am still in pedantic-and-snotty mode.
    Pila Mulligan: you need a hug
    Wol Euler: I do.
    Pila Mulligan: we need a group hug script
    Wol Euler: we do.
    Pila Mulligan: well, virtual hugs for all fornow
    Wol Euler smiles
    Lia Rikugun: ***HUG***
    Wol Euler stretches really far and hugs everyone all at once
    Eden Haiku: Hug Wol ;-)
    Bertram Jacobus: Maybe 50000 is a little bit exaggerated, but 20000 is normal, at lest in India. in the west she takes a liitle bit more of time for each individual - butthe quality of the time is essential, not the quantity...
    Bertram Jacobus: (nata wrote that) ... :-)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: good night
    Wol Euler: 'night yaku
    Lia Rikugun: good night
    Pila Mulligan slips away with a thanks for chat, dance and hugs
    Lia Rikugun: byebye pila
    Wol Euler: bye pila, take care
    Bertram Jacobus: bye pila :-)
    Lia Rikugun: i willleave too, going to bed, good night :)
    Wol Euler: 'night lia, take care.
    Bertram Jacobus: good nite lia :-)
    Bertram Jacobus: i´ll (we) leave too - have a nice time all ! ... :-)
    Wol Euler: "What is beyond the universe?" asks 9-year-old Sierra Bradshaw-Kreimer of Hillsborough, N.C. "Love," Amma tells her.
    Wol Euler: (from that article). Nice
    Wol Euler: bye bert, sleep well
    Bertram Jacobus: nice ... :-)
    Bertram Jacobus: ty
    Wol Euler: so, steve, what's new? How is your wife?
    stevenaia Michinaga: walking quite well thank you,
    Wol Euler: good :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: looking forward to Saturday
    stevenaia Michinaga: the short version of the retreat
    Eden Haiku: Soory, I was afk..
    Wol Euler: ah, yes.
    Wol Euler: wb
    Eden Haiku: Ty
    Wol Euler: steve is either crashing or writing a novel.
    Wol Euler: yep, there he goes.
    Wol Euler: so, did you choose your surname because of your love of haiku, or did it develop out of your having chosen the name?
    Eden Haiku: Both I guess ;-)
    Eden Haiku: I love poetry, so I when I saw that surname...
    Wol Euler: I enjoy your spontaneous poems :)
    Wol Euler: do you know Basho, one of the major haiku poets of Japan?
    Eden Haiku: Yes, sure.
    Wol Euler smiles.
    Eden Haiku: Thanks. Where you with us at the session at 7SLT last evening?
    Wol Euler: no, I never make those, it's 4am for me. I live in Germany
    Wol Euler: well, "never" is a long time. It has to be pretty drastic insomnia.
    Eden Haiku: Yes, I thought so, I remembr you are from Germany, Which city or part?
    Wol Euler: Stuttgart, in the southwest
    Wol Euler: a little city in the forest
    Eden Haiku: Near Switzerland isn'it?
    Wol Euler: right, close to Basel and Zurich
    Wol Euler: and you? must be in the western hemisphere if you make the 7pm sessions
    Eden Haiku: Phone, my brother ;-) I have to leave. See you!
    Wol Euler: ok, take care :)
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