2009.11.10 19:00 - Cultivating the heart

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Eos Amaterasu. The comments are by Eos Amaterasu.

    Eos Amaterasu: Hi Rrose
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Rrose, Eos :)
    Rrose Millar: hello Eos,Eliza.
    Eos Amaterasu: Hi Eliza!
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Eos Amaterasu: Rrose, have you been here before?
    Rrose Millar: What does your title «cultivator» refer to? Yes, I have been here a few times,
    Eliza Madrigal: Rrose and I met the other day :) Nice to see you again
    Rrose Millar: ;-)
    Eos Amaterasu: That's a good question.... I will pass the buck to Eliza :-)
    Eliza Madrigal: Cultivator is a gardening term... In this context it can refer to nurturing awareness, aliveness, etc :)
    Pila Mulligan: greetings
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Pila :)
    Rrose Millar: Hi Pila,
    Eos Amaterasu: HI Pila
    Eos Amaterasu: Nurturing aliveness
    Eos Amaterasu: Best possible job description!
    Rrose Millar: Thanks for the explanation
    Eliza Madrigal: :) You're welcome. I like that term too... aliveness... It is something Stim says....
    Eliza Madrigal: "tend to aliveness' :)
    Eos Amaterasu: trope
    Eos Amaterasu: trust the instinct to that?
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah, well yes it could mean that....
    Eliza Madrigal: The sense at which he uses it mostly is 'attend'
    Eos Amaterasu: Ears turn toward it?
    Eliza Madrigal: Care :)
    Eos Amaterasu: whiskers outstretched
    Eliza Madrigal smiles
    Rrose Millar: Like that!
    Eos Amaterasu: Rrose, have you been playing with the 9 secs attention (tax :-)?
    Rrose Millar: A little yes.
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Paradise!
    Eos Amaterasu listens
    Eos Amaterasu: Hi Paradise
    Paradise Tennant: hiya eliza eos rrose ..pila gtsy !
    Pila Mulligan: hi Paradise
    Rrose Millar: I had to make a decision today, I took a step back, went for a walk, went with my heart.
    Eliza Madrigal: oooh, that's lovely...
    Rrose Millar: I feel I took the right decisin.
    Eliza Madrigal: :) Clarity?
    Rrose Millar: Yes. Even though I was confused, it clarified as soon as I followed my heart,
    Paradise Tennant: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Your imagery is lovely... walking, following your heart
    Eos Amaterasu: Can you say more about how you follow your heart?
    Rrose Millar: I went for a walk in RL. Nice day, Indian Summer here...
    Eos Amaterasu feels Indian Summer....
    Rrose Millar: Humm. It comes from a quotation in Shantaram , a novel I am reading these days.




    Eos Amaterasu: indian summer
    Paradise Tennant: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Paradise Tennant: the heart is perhaps our best compass :)
    Paradise Tennant: sorry a bit sleepy here
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah, you are in good company then... quite sleepy too
    Rrose Millar: «There is another reality, beyond what we see with our eyes. You have to feel your way into that reality with your heart, There is no other way» Gregory David Roberts in «Shantarm» p. 195 ;-))
    Paradise Tennant: :)
    Paradise Tennant: lovely
    Eliza Madrigal: feel your way... one gets the sense of a kind of darkness or fog
    Rrose Millar: *Shantaram, It means man of peace.
    Eliza Madrigal: and the heart alit perhaps
    Eliza Madrigal: Oh, really nice :)
    Rrose Millar: Yes, I was thinking about that quote as I was walking, wondering which way was the way of my heart, Then, I found it. I just knew,
    Eliza Madrigal smiles
    Paradise Tennant: listening .. is so important :)
    Eos Amaterasu: [19:04] Eliza Madrigal: Cultivator is a gardening term... In this context it can refer to nurturing awareness, aliveness, etc :)
    Eos Amaterasu: heart
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Paradise Tennant: sometimes we forget to stop and just listen - usually the answers are always there if we do :)
    Eliza Madrigal: "Out of the heart spring the virtues of life"
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Steve!
    stevenaia Michinaga: hiya
    Rrose Millar: Yes, I had an experience of NOT listening my heart a few years ago. It lead to disaster,
    Eos Amaterasu: In and out of the pool he jumps :-)
    stevenaia Michinaga: :)
    Pila Mulligan: hi Steve
    stevenaia Michinaga: hello Eos, Pla. Rrose, Eliza
    Paradise Tennant: hiya steve :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: hello Paradise, sorry, still ressing
    Rrose Millar: Indian Summer the latest since 1953 they say in the news.
    Paradise Tennant: yes .. shirt sleeve weather here today ..
    Eliza Madrigal: Nice to see you in tatooed form :) We're missing just a few from retreat now
    Eos Amaterasu: Pretty warm here too
    Eos Amaterasu: What leads to not listening to the heart?
    Paradise Tennant: mental noise
    Paradise Tennant: monkey brain :)
    Eos Amaterasu: hmm
    Eos Amaterasu: :-)
    Eliza Madrigal: fear perhaps
    Eos Amaterasu: take a chance on the heart?
    Eliza Madrigal: a leap
    Eos Amaterasu: trust in complete openness
    Eos Amaterasu: it's responsive ! :-)
    Eliza Madrigal: Go on, Eos?
    Eos Amaterasu: if you leap, you're open to whatever happens
    Eos Amaterasu: responsive to the world/you
    Eliza Madrigal: hm, yes what are we trusting? "What we are"?
    Rrose Millar: Not listening to the heart cause the mind is talking too loud sometimes,
    Eliza Madrigal: There's an ear in heart...
    Eliza Madrigal: maybe the heart is what does the listening
    Eos Amaterasu: Pablo Neruda, "Keeping Quiet": 
    Paradise Tennant: yes and processing .. on a truer basis




    Eos Amaterasu:    heart    stop    open    hark
    Eliza Madrigal: Thanks for sharing that, Eos , hmm
    Eos Amaterasu: it's so amazing we can share this across miles & times zones & differentness of us....
    Rrose Millar: In the burning temple in Burning Life, there was a prayer well where we always in tune with the Source of Love. could leave our prayers to burn up with the temple. I wrote the same prayer that came to my lips when I was living in India with my twin sister Eden; "Grant me the grace of a crystal-clear heart"
    Eliza Madrigal smiles
    Rrose Millar: always in tune with the Source of love.
    Rrose Millar: Lines got mixed up...
    Eliza Madrigal: "Being" in love... the lines fit nicely either way, Rrose!
    Rrose Millar: Doing too many things at the same time... Not very PaB...
    Eos Amaterasu: :-)
    Eliza Madrigal giggles...multitasking mindfully, with your heart on brightest things
    Eos Amaterasu: "To trust in the Heart is the Not Two, the Not Two is to trust in the Heart."
    Rrose Millar: ;-))I like that Eliza. It is comforting,
    Paradise Tennant: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Eos Amaterasu: I also took a walk this evening - it was a night walk (gets dark so early)
    Eos Amaterasu: Hadn't done that in a while
    Paradise Tennant: sigh yes ...
    Eos Amaterasu: "analog" - just my senses
    Paradise Tennant: nice
    Paradise Tennant: walking is a great way to meditate :)
    Eliza Madrigal: And your senses... alive, aware...?
    Eos Amaterasu: yes, the wind, the air, sky.... coolness
    Paradise Tennant: always find the dog catches me out there .. comes barreling over to jump up as though to say ..hey this is my time .. pay attention :)
    Eliza Madrigal: cultivating your senses... opening them up
    Paradise Tennant: :)
    Rrose Millar: I was really nice talking with you all. I have to go take my cold medecine and go to bed... Bye everybody!
    Eliza Madrigal: Oh, very pretty dress Rrose :) Night
    Eos Amaterasu: I used to walk with our dog Tara
    Pila Mulligan: bye Rose
    Paradise Tennant: what a great phrase cultivating your senses
    Eos Amaterasu: bye Rrose!
    Eos Amaterasu: she used to really come alive
    stevenaia Michinaga: bye rrose
    Rrose Millar: Sorry, for stepping into your cushion...
    Paradise Tennant: nite nite rrose
    Eliza Madrigal: She must have been so happy to see you Sunday, Paradise :)
    Paradise Tennant: he was .. seriously happy only a little less than I :)
    Eos Amaterasu: :-)
    Paradise Tennant: how was your family when you got home eliza ;) everyone make it through
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah, sorry "he" :)
    Eliza Madrigal: haha...yes they seemed to. The kids were so happy I was home, but I cannot begin to describe how tired I felt...
    Paradise Tennant: yes will take a few days to catch up
    Eliza Madrigal: So they wanted me to talk and talk... that came more today :)
    Eliza Madrigal seems to be a long processor... um... like soup? hehe




    Paradise Tennant: tara is a great name for a dog :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: switching room, brb
    Paradise Tennant: ;)
    Eos Amaterasu: Tara was a white german shepherd dog, named after White Tara
    Paradise Tennant: nice
    Eliza Madrigal smiles
    Eliza Madrigal had a shepherd as a child... what a wonderful friend
    Paradise Tennant: yes perfect way to describe it .. a wonderful friend .. on just so many levels
    Eliza Madrigal: He would run in circles around the avacado trees.... out of nowhere... I'd swing and laugh
    Eliza Madrigal: Never have to worry about a dog's motives...
    Eliza Madrigal: heheh
    Eliza Madrigal: "Feed me" "Pet me"
    Paradise Tennant: no they follow their hearts :)
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Eos Amaterasu: & their noses
    Paradise Tennant: lol
    Eliza Madrigal giggles
    Eliza Madrigal: Pila you are so quiet tonight :)
    Pila Mulligan: :)
    Paradise Tennant: why dogs jump up on you . .is to touch noses .. doggy way of saying hello showing respect .. our noses are just soooooo high up
    Pila Mulligan: 1/3rd here -- sorry
    stevenaia Michinaga: back
    Paradise Tennant: peers over at pila .. to see which third :)
    Eos Amaterasu wonders which third :-)
    Eliza Madrigal: heheh
    Pila Mulligan: a nice rain here is flowing into the catchment tank, but the wind is shifting to the south and I want to turn off the tank valve before the volcano vog from the south mixes with the rain
    Eliza Madrigal: Oooh so you've been watching closely?
    Pila Mulligan: half half actually
    Eos Amaterasu: vog, yes
    Pila Mulligan: I was just looking for an article about dogs in the news I read a few days ago
    Pila Mulligan: about how sensitive dogs can help people by anticipating a health attack
    Eos Amaterasu: http://www.whitetaracenter.com/graphics/WhiteTara-Portrait.jpg


    Eliza Madrigal: Nice image, Eos, Thank you for that
    Paradise Tennant: yes . they can detect cancer .. tell when seizures are imminent
    Eliza Madrigal nods
    Paradise Tennant: they process a lot of info with those noses
    Eos Amaterasu: great mind/heart being of compassion
    Eos Amaterasu: can tell when epileptic fits will happen
    Eliza Madrigal: :))
    Eos Amaterasu: how flexible time is
    Eliza Madrigal dozes.... I'd better get to bed :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Nice to see you all tonight. Thank you
    Paradise Tennant: sigh me too .. eyes are very heavy
    Eos Amaterasu: eventually on our walks Tara and I could be / communicate thru subtle gestures
    Pila Mulligan: bye ELiza
    Eos Amaterasu: bye Eliza, good night?
    stevenaia Michinaga: yes, that's the room I went to,
    Eliza Madrigal: Yes, Nite :)
    Paradise Tennant: :) yes eos ..they are so observant
    Pila Mulligan: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lee-sc..._b_351607.html
    Pila Mulligan: "There's a border collie who, according to one researcher, can recognize 1500 English words."
    Eos Amaterasu: biomorphic fields
    Eos Amaterasu: probably dogs can smell the biochemical weather
    Paradise Tennant: hands blue the dictionary :)
    Pila Mulligan: ah, this is the one I was looking for :) http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/01/weekinreview/01kershaw.html?scp=3&sq=dogs&st=cse
    Eos Amaterasu: I knew a dog named King (like in the Neil Young song) that was amazingly sentient




    Paradise Tennant: yes very sentient very special .. :)) going to have to excuse myself ..really sleepy ..tonight .. car lag catching up I suspect .. have a great night everyone .. thanks as always a pleasure to spend time together :)
    Pila Mulligan: some people tend to judge animals on the basis of human capabilities ('well, how smart is he if he can't drive a car') -- but these dogs seem to go pretty far beyond human senses :)
    Pila Mulligan: bye Paradise
    Eos Amaterasu: Good night
    Eos Amaterasu: I will also turn in....
    Pila Mulligan: "Dr. Wynne said. it's a happy accident that doggie thinking and human thinking overlap enough that we can have these relationships with dogs, but we shouldn't kid ourselves that dogs are viewing the world the way we do."
    stevenaia Michinaga: night paradise, Eos
    Pila Mulligan: bye Eos
    Eos Amaterasu: In a way we can share our dog's senses
    stevenaia Michinaga: my turn to sleep too
    Pila Mulligan: bye Steve
    Eos Amaterasu: 'gnight
    Paradise Tennant: nite nite all :)
    Pila Mulligan: arf to all the critters
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