2009.11.14 07:00 - Sense of Time - The Clock sense or Otherwise

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    The Guardian for this meeting was sophia Placebo. The comments are by sophia Placebo.

    Wol Euler: saturday 14 november, 7am
    Wol Euler: ain't nobody here but us chickens.
    sophia Placebo: greetings
    Wol Euler: hello :)
    Wol Euler: nice outfit.
    sophia Placebo: ty :)
    sophia Placebo: seems that tp in sl today isnt working well
    Wol Euler nods sadly. It was already messy last night (our night)
    Wol Euler: they're doing another set of rolling server restarts, that always screws up the system for a few days until it all stabilizes
    sophia Placebo: i see
    Wol Euler: lag in SL is like rain in RL-Europe, you have to live with it :)
    sophia Placebo: hehe
    Wol Euler: how are you getting on, Sophia?
    sophia Placebo: getting on what ?
    Wol Euler grins and makes a vague gesture. Life, that stuff :)
    Wol Euler: everything going well?
    Wol Euler: oh dear. pop goes the sophia.
    Wol Euler: wb
    sophia Placebo: thnx
    sophia Placebo: crash :)
    Wol Euler nods
    sophia Placebo: any great recent thoughts or observations ?
    Wol Euler laughs. there's a challenge.
    Wol Euler: I realized this morning that November is half over.
    Wol Euler: the year is 7/8ths over.
    Wol Euler: where did it go?
    sophia Placebo: :)
    sophia Placebo: some one eat it
    Wol Euler: yeah, really.
    Wol Euler: or I spent a few consecutive months asleep.
    sophia Placebo: heeh hehe
    Wol Euler: I booked myself into a work-related conference for mid-November, and I was still thinking "well, that is weeks away yet!"
    sophia Placebo: i do that always ! thats why i didnt booked myself for anything until after december , it is just a feeling that the days are somewhat running , and i wont be able to catch them !
    Wol Euler nods
    Wol Euler: I might be able to attend the tuesday events, have to talk to the boss tomorrow
    Wol Euler: otherwise it's money lost.
    sophia Placebo: you didnt talk to the boss yet ?
    Wol Euler: no, I truly just figured it out this morning!
    Wol Euler shakes her head.
    sophia Placebo: :) you really need to satrt running
    Wol Euler: I do.
    sophia Placebo: lol , ok , take a breath then
    Wol Euler: it's funny, I have been writing hte date on documents every day all year, and yet I never connected "today is 13 November" to "there's a conference on the 16th"
    sophia Placebo: hmm
    sophia Placebo: sometimes we lost the sense of counting dates to the sense of how far it seems
    Wol Euler nods
    Wol Euler: like knowing that it's 8:30 but not realizing that means that we are late
    sophia Placebo: yeah
    sophia Placebo: it is only 8:30
    Wol Euler: do you use a paper calendar on the wall, or digital?
    sophia Placebo: we still have 15 mints to go from west to the east of the city
    Wol Euler grins
    sophia Placebo: nop i dont use any kind of documintations
    Wol Euler: do you trust your memory that strongly? wow.
    sophia Placebo: i guess i use to do that , should start document though , it makes events more organised
    sophia Placebo: start to *
    sophia Placebo: but usually there are scheduals for each event
    sophia Placebo: like given paper with date time and place of one event
    Wol Euler nods
    Wol Euler: hello yakuzza
    sophia Placebo: Hi Yak !
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hey everyone
    Yakuzza Lethecus: topic ?
    sophia Placebo: how are you ?
    Wol Euler: we're talking about calendars and events and how to keep track of time
    sophia Placebo: time
    Yakuzza Lethecus: fine, thx i hope you guys are also well
    Wol Euler: quite well, thanks, enjoying a day off
    Yakuzza Lethecus: yes, thats also an issue for me
    sophia Placebo: im alive so far !
    Wol Euler: :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: kabat zinn once said in his mindfulness for beginners, we are more well then damaged as long as we breath :P
    Wol Euler: true
    sophia Placebo: :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i also try to keep track of the events and possibilities in sl with calendar and s
    Yakuzza Lethecus: schedule
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i am even logged on twice often at 1 pm slt
    Yakuzza Lethecus: because most of the good events happen at the same time
    Wol Euler smiles
    Yakuzza Lethecus: and i try to reduce SL time in general
    Yakuzza Lethecus: but i think i am back to a healthy level now
    sophia Placebo: hehe
    Wol Euler: hmmmm, did you think your previous level was unhealthy (too high)?
    Yakuzza Lethecus: but i skip places  now, what even sometimes provided my with something unexpected
    Yakuzza Lethecus: but was pretty much a waste of time often
    Yakuzza Lethecus: yes, i thought it was
    Yakuzza Lethecus: but the exploring was great right now i am more back to an habitual level
    Yakuzza Lethecus: where i just visit the places i found by the time i came to sl
    Wol Euler nods
    Yakuzza Lethecus: like TLE, KIRA and thothica
    Yakuzza Lethecus: k thephilosophyclass is still great
    Yakuzza Lethecus: but i visit that place most of the time with my alt acc
    Yakuzza Lethecus: since it´s 1 am
    Yakuzza Lethecus: most of the time tuesdays and thursdays
    Yakuzza Lethecus: and then is pab overlapping with gilles on wednesdays
    sophia Placebo: you really have schedual !
    Yakuzza Lethecus: so it would be great to do those things right away
    sophia Placebo: hmm yak
    Yakuzza Lethecus: please ?
    sophia Placebo: any great thoughts or observations recently ?
    Wol Euler smiles
    Yakuzza Lethecus: nothing great
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i should increase the level of concentration on the sessions
    sophia Placebo: hmm
    Wol Euler: how so, yaku?
    Yakuzza Lethecus: so only things on general interest in my habits of being in SL and pab
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i still don´t know whats healty in my daily habits
    Yakuzza Lethecus: and i always try to create more habits which aren´t static
    Wol Euler: wb again :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: so, i changed some of my habits over the last year, after work i don´t hear radio in my car i try to hear lectures on topics i don´t have a specific interest in but would be nice to have heard about
    sophia Placebo: thnx again :)
    Wol Euler nods
    Yakuzza Lethecus: or things i had an opinion about but actually now true information but my prejudices
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i even heard something about literature :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i never read a book and even right now i am stuck with podcasts and audiobooks
    Yakuzza Lethecus: but it´s fine i finally make it through those and the don´t get dusty in the cupboard :)
    Wol Euler: it's the concepts that count, a "book" is just packaging.
    Yakuzza Lethecus: bookshelf
    sophia Placebo: you need mind to read books not books to make mind
    Yakuzza Lethecus: yes, how to find something in books which i am thinking about
    Yakuzza Lethecus: so it´s hard so get the right answers to idea´s and questions for me out of the internet in a written form
    Yakuzza Lethecus: and the value of accidental learning increased for me :)
    Wol Euler smiles and nods
    sophia Placebo: hmm
    Yakuzza Lethecus: can you elaborate on the hmmm ? :)
    sophia Placebo: you seems like running after something
    Yakuzza Lethecus: yes, and i think that is exactly what i am supposed to appreciate right now
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i mean the curiosity
    Yakuzza Lethecus: in fact this place is much about what i describe as accidental learning
    sophia Placebo: how is accidental learning ? enjoyable ? unexpected ? chaotic?
    Wol Euler: :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: it´s sad that ur the only one out of an arabic context here
    Yakuzza Lethecus: but it´s very international
    Yakuzza Lethecus: many highly educated people which i am unable to talk on topic often
    Yakuzza Lethecus: but i have to google many things :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: so sadly it´s biased with western culutre
    Yakuzza Lethecus: culture
    Yakuzza Lethecus: even when we have many people interested in eastern conteplative study :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: but still we´re 90% western cutlure
    Yakuzza Lethecus: and i don´t even know if i count korea not as western culture
    sophia Placebo: i dont see you as westerners untill you start talk about weather or politics
    Wol Euler chuckles
    Wol Euler: we are all SL-culturists in a way
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i mean even to think i cathegories as western or not western is an negative abstraction
    sophia Placebo: not at all
    Yakuzza Lethecus: like thinking about east and westgermans :)
    Wol Euler: we share a few attributes and habits that are very unusual in our "outside" cultures
    Yakuzza Lethecus: it´s better to just think on topic in the moment
    sophia Placebo: take as hmm first answer that comes to mind to a question
    sophia Placebo nods to Wol
    Yakuzza Lethecus: mindfullness and being more judgemental on the moment is
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hello visitor
    sophia Placebo: Hi visitor!
    sophia Placebo: sometimes habits is all there to unify a group of poeple
    sophia Placebo: and habits sometimes is all there to make them think they are diffrent
    Wol Euler: it is :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: right
    sophia Placebo: :)
    Wol Euler: they often run over the 60 minutes
    Wol Euler: the record is 7.5 hours :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: actually i
    sophia Placebo cant imagine a session that long
    Yakuzza Lethecus: isn´t it only supposed to be 30 minutes ?
    Wol Euler: well, the guardian is supposed to attend for at least 30 minutes.
    Wol Euler: it's up to her/him how long to actually stay.
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i know that everyone stays the hour but i remembered that there was something with the 30 min :)
    Visitor: I love to join you...and I would love to participate, what I'm not fond of is the recording...
    Wol Euler: the TOS requires that we ask about the recording. May we print your name and comments in the published record of this meeting?
    Yakuzza Lethecus: ok, i got to go, take care you both
    Yakuzza Lethecus: cya in another session visitor
    Wol Euler: bye yaku, enjoy the weekend.
    visitor: bye
    Wol Euler: we can anonymize you in the record
    visitor: very good, at least until I see what this discussion is about...that's good
    Wol Euler: well, this session in particular has been mostly gossipy, the weekend mornings often are :)
    visitor: so..I have the note now, and the group schedule
    Wol Euler: in theory, as you read, we are a meditation group and we discuss the practices
    Wol Euler: in reality, we talk about a lot of strange things that are somehow vaguely related
    Wol Euler: we started today talking about memory and calendars :)
    visitor: that's ok, everything is related
    Wol Euler: indeed.
    visitor: I had this landmark in my inventory and I did not remeber what is was :-)
    Wol Euler: :)
    visitor: now I know...Thank you Wol, I see you next meeting
    Wol Euler smiles. Bye for now
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