2009.12.04 07:00 - Scratching the Surface

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Eliza Madrigal. The comments are by Eliza Madrigal, who was joined by Geoff this morning....

    Geoff Baily: hi Eliza
    Eliza Madrigal: I'm somehow feeling cold in this outfit...hah
    Eliza Madrigal: How are you today Geoff?
    Geoff Baily: Can u put a coat on?
    Eliza Madrigal: Yes I may need to :)
    Geoff Baily: i'mwell thanks, and you?
    Eliza Madrigal: Rather happy, thanks :)
    Eliza Madrigal: and just noticing the torches, what a nice touch
    Geoff Baily: ;) do you wna to share it? yes nice
    Geoff Baily: *want
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Hm, well it is funny to pin down... just have a sense of peace about things this morning
    Geoff Baily: Nice ;)
    Geoff Baily: I've been reading some of the logs of meetings I attended
    Eliza Madrigal: Oh?
    Geoff Baily: several things. One misses a lot of what goes on
    Eliza Madrigal smiles... yes true. Isn't that funny
    Geoff Baily: the words do not sometimes show a flavour of the meeting
    Eliza Madrigal: Oh, I see what you are saying... that the chat logs can be flatter than the actual sessions?
    Geoff Baily: the big lack is the pauses. V important. I notice the text on local chat is timed but the log misses that out
    Eliza Madrigal: Sometimes I read over a session and think "Where was I?" "How did I miss that string?"... in that there is great value to recording I think
    Geoff Baily: is it possible to keep the timeline in the log?? ;)
    Eliza Madrigal: Hm. Some do take more time to isolate where the pause began and ended...
    Geoff Baily: ;;)
    Eliza Madrigal: but that's mostly a matter of choice. Also, nice to cover for those who run over the pauses sometimes...hahah
    Eliza Madrigal: most of us do that occasionally :)
    Geoff Baily: for me if I am typing I miss what is being said ;)
    Eliza Madrigal nods
    Geoff Baily: snow!!!!!!

    I love hearing from new people who read the logs...   

    Eliza Madrigal: Are there any PaB themes you like in particular?
    Geoff Baily: ;)
    Eliza Madrigal: Oh yes!! (Thanks, Storm)
    Geoff Baily: so many!!!!
    Geoff Baily: the ability to share in safety
    Eliza Madrigal smiles
    Geoff Baily: to exchange views and to explore
    Eliza Madrigal: Yes, I like the word explore, for what we do here
    Geoff Baily: both oneself and the medium and others too
    Geoff Baily: exploration is a lot of what we do
    Geoff Baily: I feel we are just scratching the surface of the possibilities here ;)
    Geoff Baily: possibilities
    Eliza Madrigal: How inspiring that you can sense that!
    Geoff Baily: exciting!!! i feel iits really something totally new
    Geoff Baily: been thinking what is the difference between this and a conference call by phone?
    Geoff Baily: that has been possible for years now but has had little impact really
    Eliza Madrigal: Yes, strangely SL is still a bit of a niche...
    Geoff Baily: can't quite pin it down. What do you think eliza,?
    Geoff Baily: true ;)
    Eliza Madrigal: I'm not sure I'd spend much time here in SL had I not happened upon PaB....
    Geoff Baily: me too!!!!!
    Eliza Madrigal: For me, the environment gives us a 'feel' for sitting together....
    Geoff Baily: ;)
    Eliza Madrigal: which is somehow important in developing a real sense of community...
    Geoff Baily: nice to be with you
    Geoff Baily: yes
    Eliza Madrigal: And, we have things to do... explorations together :)
    Geoff Baily: yakes a while to get to know people
    Eliza Madrigal: So not just discussion about the weather/politics/etc
    Geoff Baily: ;)
    Eliza Madrigal: Sure, but there is something wonderful about starting at the end, even in that regard....
    Eliza Madrigal: that we start with Being... not much distance there :)
    Geoff Baily: yes Being.....
    Eliza Madrigal: I should clarify 'no distance' but well I do try to be mainstream...hehe
    Geoff Baily: tell me, how do u type so fast? without typing?
    Geoff Baily: ?? no distance??
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah, I turned off the typing animation in 'preferences' because I edit a lot, and it can be maddening to others waiting for me :)
    Geoff Baily: oH, so many options in sl
    Eliza Madrigal: No distance in Being/starting at the end/immediately extending benefit of the doubt

    Settling into our avatars...   

    Geoff Baily: havent really begun to explore my avatar yet
    Eliza Madrigal: I wondered at first if you were a clergyman :)
    Geoff Baily: ha ha
    Eliza Madrigal smiles
    Eliza Madrigal: which would be fine of course :)
    Eliza Madrigal: but you've done pretty well... found cute hair, that's the main thing maybe. Hahah
    Geoff Baily: A retired doctor is what I am
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah, doctor of?
    Geoff Baily: exploring several things
    Geoff Baily: medical/ molecular biology/virology
    Eliza Madrigal: Don't let me pry of course ... everyone finds their own comfort level
    Eliza Madrigal: Oh, so many changes in those fields in the last few decades...
    Eliza Madrigal: fascinating :)
    Geoff Baily: no prob, ive chosen to be pretty real here at PaB
    Eliza Madrigal: :) Glad, good that you feel at home
    Geoff Baily: I am Geoff but not the Baily!!!!!
    Eliza Madrigal: :))) I'm neither Eliza nor Madrigal...
    Geoff Baily: ;)
    Geoff Baily: but you are for me!!
    Geoff Baily: you see!!
    Eliza Madrigal: indeed :)

    Wow, I was pushy.... sorry Geoff. ;-)   

    Underlying patterns...

    Eliza Madrigal: Did you have other thoughts while reading the logs?
    Eliza Madrigal: Observations?
    Geoff Baily: Many many, only scratched the surface of it
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Geoff Baily: Interesting to see the 'spin' in the Guardian's comments sometimes
    Geoff Baily: sometimes the title gives the flavour ot it
    Eliza Madrigal: Some of us do tend to tease out and highlight more than others
    Eliza Madrigal: For me I've always been fond of mosaics and underlying patterns... so is enjoyable
    Geoff Baily: some are really great and bring ouy the unconscious links
    Geoff Baily: one thing that interests me here is the possibility of investigating syncronicity
    Eliza Madrigal: I suppose having a focus in biology one does the same... notices layers beneath
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah!
    Geoff Baily: and non verbal communication
    Geoff Baily: i note hat in some logs there are links that must have been hidden at the time they happened
    Eliza Madrigal: synchronicity is an interest of mine as well, in the sense of acknowledging and yet not getting trapped searching for, those 'events'...
    Eliza Madrigal: Do you? I'd love if you'd say more about that
    Geoff Baily: eg in the session Yhank yous
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah, yes, and some personal editing for that one, which is totally the perogative of the guardian if they feel something was personal
    Geoff Baily: At the end I was exploring my viewing positions while you were talking about the programmes u were watching on the brain
    Eliza Madrigal: hmmm
    Geoff Baily: i was exploring but not really listening to you
    Geoff Baily: but they synch well if you read the log!!!!

    Puppies at Being...   

    Eliza Madrigal: sometimes we're like puppies tumbling over one another
    Eliza Madrigal: yes :)
    Geoff Baily: play
    Eliza Madrigal: YES!
    Eliza Madrigal: It was a nice session :)
    Geoff Baily: thats how puppies learn
    Eliza Madrigal: And we can learn from puppies :)
    Geoff Baily: yes i enjoyed it too Eliza
    Geoff Baily: tes puppies are fun, loving and trusting
    Eliza Madrigal: :) What a happy picture
    Geoff Baily: Yes*
    Geoff Baily: playing and learning together in the snow
    Geoff Baily: puppies just love the snow
    Eliza Madrigal: I would imagine... sigh, unfortunately have not lived long enough in snow to find out yet :)
    Geoff Baily: maybe you will
    Eliza Madrigal: When in the snow for a brief period, I had cats... "Bonnie and Clyde"
    Geoff Baily: do you take any lessons fromthe logs?
    Eliza Madrigal: Definitely
    Geoff Baily: Hope Bonnie and Clyde did not come to a bad end!
    Eliza Madrigal: You get a real sense of people over time I think, even if you don't have the opportunity to be in sessions with them
    Geoff Baily: ;)
    Eliza Madrigal: And yes they were okay , thanks ... stayed out of trouble despite their names :)
    Geoff Baily: ;) 9 lives


    Eliza Madrigal: May I ask what your general feeling/experience was during the last pause?
    Geoff Baily: i was lloking at the sky again.............blue blue sky it is so easy to take for granted
    Eliza Madrigal: how very simply true
    Eliza Madrigal: yet always there reminding us to be open
    Geoff Baily: ;)
    Eliza Madrigal: For me, I've been noticing lately that a kind of energy seems to concentrate on my face when discussing contemplative things, or even just sitting here... and I've begun to try to distribute that....
    Eliza Madrigal: a strange thing to describe, but really noticeable to me this last pause
    Geoff Baily: its strange what happens
    Eliza Madrigal: yes and odd to share it at first, but so refreshing!
    Geoff Baily: easy to be caught in the way of trying too hard
    Eliza Madrigal: hmmm, yes
    Eliza Madrigal: or trying at all! :)
    Geoff Baily: puppies can do it!!!!!!!
    Eliza Madrigal: hahaha... yes when puppies play they aren't self-conscious at all....
    Eliza Madrigal: prob can't tell where one ends and another begins
    Geoff Baily: ;)
    Geoff Baily: chasing thier taijs
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Geoff Baily: *tails!!!!!!!
    Eliza Madrigal: Reading typos is a required skill here :)

    Geoff Baily: i'm using a french keyboard noy easy!!!
    Geoff Baily: not*!!
    Eliza Madrigal: yes those french can be difficult.. hehehe.... (kidding... mostly french background myself-hah)
    Geoff Baily: ;)
    Eliza Madrigal giggles
    Eliza Madrigal: I have an appointment at 11, so I'd better get going....
    Eliza Madrigal: but what a nice opportunity to get to know you a little better Geoff
    Geoff Baily: i'm living in France now. Bye thanks
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah, nice!
    Eliza Madrigal: Thanks, we'll talk again soon I'm sure :)
    Geoff Baily: Thanks Eliza

    Geoff Baily: As Eliza was leaving they were standing half facing each other and Geoff felt like giving her a big hug to say thaankyou..............puppies playing in the 'quantum foam' of the snow..............thanks Storm!!

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