2009.12.07 13:00 - not with this package

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Stim Morane. The comments are by Stim Morane.

    Qt Core: hi Stim
    Stim Morane: Hi Qt!
    Stim Morane: songbirds and snow flurries ...
    Qt Core: heavy wet snow, from size and speed ;-)
    Stim Morane: yes
    Stim Morane: soon we'll be buried
    Stim Morane: Hi Bertram
    Bertram Jacobus: hey stim hey qt ! :-)
    Qt Core: hi Bertram
    Bertram Jacobus: hey mick ! :-)
    Qt Core: hi Mick
    Mickorod Renard: Hi Guys
    Stim Morane: hi Mick
    Mickorod Renard: Hi Stim, sorry I missed Wok last time
    Mickorod Renard: I really miss it
    Stim Morane: :)
    Mickorod Renard: Hows Bert?,,sorted stuf out at home?
    Bertram Jacobus: ehm - not sure whether i understand ... (?) sry -
    Mickorod Renard: did u have the wierrd nieghbour?
    Bertram Jacobus: ah. yes :-(
    Bertram Jacobus: it´s still "under construction" ;o)
    Mickorod Renard: ok,,say no more,,but my thoughts go with you
    Bertram Jacobus: so kind mick - thanks A LOT ! ...
    Mickorod Renard: :)
    Bertram Jacobus: hello aubergine ! ... :-)
    Aubergine Mint: hi everyone
    Bertram Jacobus: hey calvino ! :-)
    Mickorod Renard: Hi Aub.hi Calvino
    Bertram Jacobus: now heavy incoming here lol - hey ssl ! :o)
    Calvino Rabeni: Hi Bertram and everyone
    Bertram Jacobus: and yaku ! :-)
    Qt Core: hi aubergine, calbvino, sophiasharon
    Bertram Jacobus: and eliza ! :-)
    Mickorod Renard: Hi Yaku
    Stim Morane: Hi Aubergine, Yakuzza, Sophia
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hey everyone :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hey everyone :)
    Stim Morane: Calvino
    Mickorod Renard: Sopia
    Aubergine Mint: Hi Yaku
    Mickorod Renard: Elizaaaaa
    Eliza Madrigal smiles
    Mickorod Renard: he he he
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Everyone :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Nice to meet you Aubergine
    Stim Morane: Hi Eliza
    Aubergine Mint: hi Eliza
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Stim :)
    Aubergine Mint: Hi Stim
    Bertram Jacobus: and mick : one more sentence perhaps : at the moment i live from day to day . and the last days were a bit better ... i´m thankful for that ...
    Qt Core: hi Eliza, Yak
    Mickorod Renard: thats great Bert
    Bertram Jacobus: but i have no trust in good tendencies at the moment. too many ugly turns i experienced in the last times. i know : not nice - but true.
    Bertram Jacobus: so one or i gets formed by outer circumstances ...
    Mickorod Renard: well, i have a few bad turns goin on at the mom too,,but I have to try and just ride them out
    Bertram Jacobus: very interesting to look at such functions
    Bertram Jacobus: what do you mean with "try" ? how ?
    Mickorod Renard: I think there is sometimes a conflict of nature
    Bertram Jacobus: conflict of natire ? ;-)
    Bertram Jacobus: nature*
    Mickorod Renard: for example,,if you are a sensitive person,,like me,,its dificult to be non disturbed by things that are not so good
    Bertram Jacobus: yes
    Bertram Jacobus: so WE are in conflict with nature that means ?
    Mickorod Renard: mmmm,,thinking about that
    Mickorod Renard: maybe in conflict with our own nature and the outside influences that we find so dificyult to ignor
    Mickorod Renard: oops
    Bertram Jacobus: ;-)
    Bertram Jacobus: and yes mick, i agree. but ignorance is not the way i think ...
    Mickorod Renard: It looks like I will have to pay 30k euro for capital gains just because my only home that I am selling took longer than a year to sell,,I am supposed to just say,,ce'st la vie
    Bertram Jacobus: uh
    Eliza Madrigal: What is the alternative to saying ce'st la vie?
    Mickorod Renard: for some strange reason I feel rather pissed off
    Bertram Jacobus: strange reason ?
    Mickorod Renard: I could kick the dog
    Eliza Madrigal: Oh :(
    Bertram Jacobus: that is really understandable mick !
    Bertram Jacobus: i´m very sorry for you ! ... :-/
    Mickorod Renard: but there is no alternative,,so I will have to find a way to resolve it in my own mind
    Mickorod Renard: its like working for a period of time for nothing
    Mickorod Renard: wasted
    Eliza Madrigal: the house sold... that's something you've been waiting for quite a while
    Bertram Jacobus: oh yeah. so good thoughts mike ! essential ... to find a quiet mind ... lovely ... and sorry again for you ! may you find the solution as fast as possible ! ...
    Mickorod Renard: well,,I am not going to let it get me down,,there is nothing I can do,,and to pay the proice of being sad about it is more personal cost
    Eliza Madrigal went, a few yrs ago, from having enough imaginary equity in a house to pay for two colleges, to nada, in the course of 6 months .... yup, not easy for sure :)
    Mickorod Renard: yea
    Bertram Jacobus: yes. and i associate : there are so many heavy life´s lessons ... hope that we will grow with them (!) ...
    Stim Morane: sorry
    Eliza Madrigal: but it was imaginary...
    Eliza Madrigal: I counted on something not there... had to let it go...
    Mickorod Renard: thats perhaps not so bad then eliza
    Eliza Madrigal: :) Well, a lesson for SURE
    Mickorod Renard: every cloud has a silver lining
    Eliza Madrigal: Thanks though... part of a kind of collective fantasy in some ways though... house prices/value...
    Bertram Jacobus: so friendly ...
    Bertram Jacobus: so important ...
    Eliza Madrigal: dreaded fees! ((Mick))
    Bertram Jacobus: the less material aspects ... is that unfitting at this moment here ? ...
    Mickorod Renard: yes,,I still have those to pay
    Mickorod Renard: take my advice,,never buy in France
    Eliza Madrigal: Ohh but would be lovely to live in France... sigh
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Bertram Jacobus: hm. okay. but - i don´t have much. i gave most away ...
    Eliza Madrigal thinks if we'd been on the ball we might have swapped houses Mick! hehehe
    Eliza Madrigal: How's Miami sound? :)
    Mickorod Renard: he he
    Mickorod Renard: sounds lovely
    Mickorod Renard: do I get a fast speed boat and a fast car too?
    Eliza Madrigal: Hm, not with this package
    SophiaSharon Larnia: lol
    Eliza Madrigal: maybe a cat
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi StiX
    Bertram Jacobus: hey stix :o)
    StiX Harvey: heyaz
    Mickorod Renard: Hi Stix
    Stim Morane: Hi StiX
    StiX Harvey: hiya :)
    Bertram Jacobus: nice shoes ! :-)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: Hi Stix
    Bertram Jacobus: hello gaya ... :-))
    SophiaSharon Larnia: HI Gaya
    Mickorod Renard: Hi Gaya
    StiX Harvey: hi :)
    Stim Morane: Hi Gaya
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Gaya :)
    Mickorod Renard: are you staying stix?
    Mickorod Renard: have a seat
    Gaya Ethaniel sneaks in and waves hello :)
    StiX Harvey: im just looking around.. wuts appening?
    Mickorod Renard: I have given you a note card stix
    Bertram Jacobus: the talks here are recorded stix - is it ok, when we record your commends, too ? :-)
    StiX Harvey: oh.. thx yes
    StiX Harvey: i need to go but thankyou
    Mickorod Renard: bye stix
    Eliza Madrigal: :) bye StiX
    Bertram Jacobus: bye may be cu again stix :-)
    StiX Harvey: byee
    Gaya Ethaniel: Bye :)
    Stim Morane: Bye
    Aubergine Mint: gtg see you next time
    SophiaSharon Larnia: bye Aubergine
    Bertram Jacobus: bye aubergine. have a good time
    Eliza Madrigal: So how is everything, Stim?
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Eliza Madrigal looks at yakuzza and thinks of things teachers do to kids who fall asleep in class... paint fingernails, etc
    Coucouille Morigi: hi all
    Coucouille Morigi: have a good evening
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Coucouille :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: :)
    Mickorod Renard: I am supprised at how many wild animals seem to be roaming around in rl
    Eliza Madrigal giggles
    SophiaSharon Larnia: Hi Coucouville
    Mickorod Renard: Hi Couucoulle
    Bertram Jacobus: hi coucouille ! thanks, same to you please ! :-)
    Mickorod Renard: I always feel like when I run one over I will pay with bad kama
    SophiaSharon Larnia: me too Mick, ha
    Eliza Madrigal: Do you two drive around SL?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: laughs
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Mickorod Renard: I nearly had 2 foxes last night and today I got a bird
    Calvino Rabeni: It's true, Mick, they keep on roaming, living their lives like it was the thing to do :)
    Eliza Madrigal: "Let the wild rumpus start!"
    Eliza Madrigal giggles
    Eliza Madrigal thinks no one got her childish reference but it is okay :)
    Gaya Ethaniel: :)
    Mickorod Renard: I didnt realise what I had said..no pun intended
    Mickorod Renard: :)
    Mickorod Renard: has anyone heard of a coypu? not sure if its spelt that way
    Eliza Madrigal: the semi aquatic rodent? why , yes
    Mickorod Renard: yes
    Eliza Madrigal giggles because she opened google
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
    Mickorod Renard: well I ran one of those over once
    Mickorod Renard: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Eek
    Eliza Madrigal: In SL?
    Mickorod Renard: noooo,,,rl
    Eliza Madrigal: it looks like a beaver
    Qt Core: there are some of them here innorthern italy, in the canals around Milan, they are driving away standard rats
    Mickorod Renard: yes,,I could have said I had a beaver one night,,but no doubt You would think I was being rude
    SophiaSharon Larnia: laughs
    Eliza Madrigal shakes head and thinks ara should be here to apologize for you Mick
    Mickorod Renard: grin
    Calvino Rabeni: Not at all Mick, there are beavers in this area also!
    Mickorod Renard: In England, depending if you are silly or not,,most animals have sexual connotations attached tioo them
    Mickorod Renard: so its very dificult to have a sensible conversation about animals
    Calvino Rabeni: What is connoted on the Bear?
    Mickorod Renard: well, I wouldnt like to be interpreter for all the anomal connotations,,,but I guess i havnt thiought about bear
    SophiaSharon Larnia: bye all, take care!!
    Eliza Madrigal: Nice to see you Sharon!!
    Mickorod Renard: but bear is linked to naked
    Bertram Jacobus: bye ssl have a good time
    Stim Morane: Bye Sophia
    SophiaSharon Larnia: waves
    Mickorod Renard: bye Sophia
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Gaya Ethaniel: Bye :)
    Bertram Jacobus: i´ll leave too - ty for the conversation !
    Eliza Madrigal: Bye Bert :)
    Mickorod Renard: bye Bert
    Gaya Ethaniel: Bye :)
    Stim Morane: bye Bertram
    Bertram Jacobus: and ... may all beings be happy please (!) ...
    Gaya Ethaniel: You too :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: nacht bert
    Eliza Madrigal: :)) You too Bert
    Mickorod Renard: and you Bert
    Bertram Jacobus: i´m no being ? hmmmm . thinkin away ....
    Mickorod Renard: Gaya, why are you a rabbit?
    Gaya Ethaniel: lol
    Gaya Ethaniel: I don't know Mick, I wanted to try non-human AV and people like this one very much ... :)
    Eliza Madrigal: yes they/we do!
    Stim Morane: :)
    Mickorod Renard: yes, I must admit, when you were not a racbbit I didnt feel so comfortable
    Gaya Ethaniel: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: especially with the little hat
    Calvino Rabeni: Yes! Everyone likes the Rabbit.
    Gaya Ethaniel: ty :)
    Calvino Rabeni: Or Bunny
    Mickorod Renard: yes,,bunny is nice
    Gaya Ethaniel: I heard that a rabbit is something that distracts people from spiritual path.
    Eliza Madrigal: hahah
    Mickorod Renard: I have been looking for a rupert bear Avi
    Stim Morane: yes, very dangerous those rabbits
    Gaya Ethaniel: look at this, oh look at that ... something like that
    Gaya Ethaniel: heheheh
    Gaya Ethaniel: So it's important not to take me seriously :P
    Stim Morane: :)
    Mickorod Renard: :)
    Stim Morane: there are many rabbits here, really.
    Gaya Ethaniel: ?
    Qt Core: bye all, have fun
    Gaya Ethaniel: Bye :)
    Stim Morane: bye, Qt
    Calvino Rabeni: I like the native american animal traditions too
    Mickorod Renard: bye Qt
    Calvino Rabeni: Bye Qt
    Eliza Madrigal: a hallucination... like harvey
    Gaya Ethaniel looks around for more rabbits ...
    Stim Morane: :)
    Stim Morane: I just meant the rabbit-distractions of our own minds
    Gaya Ethaniel: not monkey?
    Gaya Ethaniel: What's the difference?
    Eliza Madrigal: yes indeed... monkeys chasing rabbits
    Stim Morane: it's just icon-language ...
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Gaya Ethaniel: ahhhh
    Mickorod Renard: is there sybolism?,,do you think,,or is it just a bit of fun?
    Stim Morane: it's a picture language, meant to connect with things we have intuitions about
    Calvino Rabeni: Animals carry parts of human nature
    Stim Morane: it worked better in the past, when people saw monkeys along the path, etc etc
    Stim Morane: I mean, any path, outdoors
    Stim Morane: modern people don't see many animals, doing their thing ...
    Calvino Rabeni: I see them pretty regularly
    Stim Morane: :)
    Mickorod Renard: me too
    Eliza Madrigal: I have to run to get my dd from chorus before another meeting... Thanks everyone! Nice to see you Stim, Everyone!
    Gaya Ethaniel: Bye Eliza :)
    Stim Morane: Nice to see you, Eliza. BYe
    Mickorod Renard: bye Eliza
    Calvino Rabeni: The animals function as symbols for people, is important
    Stim Morane: I will have to go too ...
    Stim Morane: yes, Calvino
    Gaya Ethaniel: Me too. Enjoy your day Stim and everyone :)
    Calvino Rabeni: Yes, I believe there's another event to attend
    Mickorod Renard: bye Stim
    Stim Morane: bye!
    Mickorod Renard: whats that?
    Calvino Rabeni: Time Workshop, I think
    Mickorod Renard: wow,,I havnt been to time workshop in ages
    Calvino Rabeni: Here's a ref on animal symbolism
    Calvino Rabeni: http://www.ninewellnesscentre.com/ivwc_animalspirittotems.html
    Mickorod Renard: thanks
    Calvino Rabeni: I must go however, see you 2 later then.
    Calvino Rabeni: :)
    Mickorod Renard: ok,,see u soon Cal
    Mickorod Renard: I may try time w.shp
    Mickorod Renard: are you comming yaku?

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