2009.12.11 13:00 - long friday session

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Yakuzza Lethecus. The comments are by Yakuzza Lethecus.

    Yakuzza Lethecus: hiya zen :)
    Zen Arado: Hi Yaku
    Yakuzza Lethecus: how are you ?`
    Zen Arado: not bad
    Zen Arado: you?
    Yakuzza Lethecus: me neither :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: where are you from by the way
    Qt Core: hi all
    Zen Arado: N.Ireland
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hiya aubergine, qt
    Zen Arado: Hi Qt
    Zen Arado: Aubergine
    Qt Core: hi aubergine
    Zen Arado: where are you from Yaku?
    Yakuzza Lethecus: germany
    Yakuzza Lethecus: nrw
    Yakuzza Lethecus: aubergine, where are you from ?
    Zen Arado: lots of Europeans come here
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hello liza, agatha
    Agatha Macbeth: Hi everybody!
    Qt Core: with the four meeting a day policy we can finally find something at good hours ;-)
    Zen Arado: Hi liza, Agatha
    Aubergine Mint: brb
    Agatha Macbeth: Hi zen
    Qt Core: hi liza, agatha
    Agatha Macbeth: QT
    Agatha Macbeth: Hello Liza
    Yakuzza Lethecus: liza, are you here for the first time ?
    Liza Deischer: hi QT
    Liza Deischer: no
    Zen Arado: I never seem to meet any Aussies or N.Zealanders in SL
    Agatha Macbeth: Isn't Tarmel Australian?
    Liza Deischer: but ive been only here for i think three times
    Yakuzza Lethecus: jep, she is :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah
    Zen Arado: oh ok
    Yakuzza Lethecus: so you know that everything will be logged an posted ?
    Liza Deischer: yes
    Yakuzza Lethecus: somebody tossed ur the note
    Yakuzza Lethecus: k, great :)
    Zen Arado: anybody read 'The power of now'?
    Liza Deischer: no
    Zen Arado: Eckhart Tolle
    Agatha Macbeth: 'Fraid not Zen
    Qt Core: no, it seem a dangerous title that will make people do things :-)
    Zen Arado: :)
    Zen Arado: I am re-reading it at the moment
    Agatha Macbeth: What's it about Zen?
    Zen Arado: it seeems very like the stuf they talk about here
    Agatha Macbeth: Ooooh
    Zen Arado: about living in the present moment
    Agatha Macbeth: Heavy
    Liza Deischer: about here and now I guess :)
    Alfred Kelberry: hi guys
    Zen Arado: yes
    Agatha Macbeth: Mmm
    Qt Core: hi Alfred
    Liza Deischer: hi alfred
    Zen Arado: Hi Alfred
    Agatha Macbeth: Hi Alf
    Liza Deischer: interesting
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hey, alf
    Zen Arado: but understandable
    Liza Deischer: based on any tradition?
    Zen Arado: he had an enlightenment experience
    Zen Arado: after a long period of depression
    Liza Deischer: its about a person
    Liza Deischer: hi Cal
    Alfred Kelberry: "living in the present moment" - you're talking about cal's wild west example? :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Hi Cal
    Zen Arado: sorry for caps
    Zen Arado: don't know that one Alf
    Liza Deischer: Zen is reading a book about it
    Calvino Rabeni: Hello all - (emerges out of gray vision state)
    Zen Arado: Hi Cal
    Alfred Kelberry: it was the other day. he actually said samurai, but i thought a wild west shotdown is closer to home :)
    Alfred Kelberry: ah, here cal himself :)
    Calvino Rabeni: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Yeeehaw!
    Calvino Rabeni: Howwdy parrdner!]
    Agatha Macbeth: He rode into town and shot up the sherriff :)
    Zen Arado: where do you come from Cal?
    Calvino Rabeni: I come from western USA
    Liza Deischer: :)
    Zen Arado: ah ok
    Calvino Rabeni: We have lots of space all around things out here in the West
    Zen Arado: totally different to my environment
    Calvino Rabeni: every place has its sense of place.
    Calvino Rabeni: What is yours?
    Zen Arado: Ireland
    Zen Arado: small hils
    Zen Arado: wet and windy
    Liza Deischer: nice skys
    Calvino Rabeni: Are there open spaces with no people?
    Agatha Macbeth: Sounds familiar
    Liza Deischer: :)
    Zen Arado: not many
    Wol Euler: hello everyone
    Alfred Kelberry: woooly!
    Agatha Macbeth: Hi Wol :)
    Zen Arado: Hi Wol
    Calvino Rabeni: Hi Wol
    Liza Deischer: hiw
    Liza Deischer: hi Wol
    Qt Core: hi wol
    Yakuzza Lethecus: nabend wol
    Aubergine Mint: hi Wol
    Alfred Kelberry: new fancy hat? :)
    Wol Euler: mmhmm
    Wol Euler: have to keep warm in this wintery weather
    Alfred Kelberry: em.. yea, i can see that :)
    Liza Deischer: thats why you wear a wintercoat :)
    Alfred Kelberry: hehe
    Wol Euler: mmhmm
    Agatha Macbeth: I prefer to be cold than be too hot
    Agatha Macbeth: I *hate* heat
    Wol Euler nods. High summer is a curse
    Agatha Macbeth: Yep
    Zen Arado: maybe a temperate climate is best
    Agatha Macbeth: Aha!
    Zen Arado: near the sea
    Liza Deischer: I like the winter
    Agatha Macbeth: Me too:)
    Calvino Rabeni: hot weather is a good excuse to leap into streams - I f you have them
    Agatha Macbeth: Let it now, let it snow, let it snow...
    arabella Ella: Hiya
    Alfred Kelberry: 16 c is optimal
    Liza Deischer: hi ara
    Agatha Macbeth: Hiya Ara
    Wol Euler: hello ara
    Zen Arado: Hi Ara
    Alfred Kelberry: and if you want winter - you can always climb a mountain :)
    Liza Deischer: well, Im afraid we dont have mountains
    arabella Ella: neither do we :)
    Zen Arado: how high to be a mountain?
    Agatha Macbeth: Well thank you my sweet :)
    Alfred Kelberry: as soon as you hit the snow :)
    Zen Arado: not sure if we have mountains
    Calvino Rabeni: If you feel noticeably different on the top - it is a mountain
    Zen Arado: 1599 m?
    Zen Arado: 1500 I mean
    Alfred Kelberry: cal - good one :)
    Calvino Rabeni: SOme kind of climate change induced
    Calvino Rabeni: Or the sky looks different
    Alfred Kelberry: it's a good place for no-time experience, i think
    Alfred Kelberry: whatever that is :)
    arabella Ella: or one's breathing is different as air is thinner?
    Calvino Rabeni: Big space // no time
    Zen Arado: buddhist monasteries often built on mountains
    Liza Deischer: fot isolation purposes?
    Zen Arado: away from distractions I suppose
    Calvino Rabeni: defense, partly. but also the change in consciousness as you approach
    Liza Deischer: that sounds better :)
    Alfred Kelberry: away from changing environment
    Zen Arado: in Japan they get cut off in winter
    Zen Arado: by snow
    Wol Euler: in Buffalo NY too :)
    Agatha Macbeth: The north of Japan is one of the snowiest places on the planet
    Zen Arado: didn't know that
    Agatha Macbeth: Yep, about 3 meters basic on av.
    Agatha Macbeth: That's why they don't play football/soccer up there in the winter!
    Zen Arado: must be tough in those monasteries
    Alfred Kelberry: tough from our perspective maybe
    Zen Arado: I didn't go on a retreat this weekend here because I would be too cold
    Wol Euler: :)
    Zen Arado: will go in Spring :)
    Zen Arado: wonder if you could do a retreat in SL
    Wol Euler grins. An intriguing idea.
    Zen Arado: I know of a Zen forum does one
    Wol Euler: I don't see why not, if you were rigorous about turning off everything in your RL background
    Zen Arado: last weekend actually
    Zen Arado: Jundo Cohen
    Zen Arado: Treeleaf Forum
    Agatha Macbeth: A Jewish buddhist?
    Zen Arado: yes
    Alfred Kelberry: what do you do there, wol?
    Calvino Rabeni: i think you would have to turn off the internet also
    Agatha Macbeth: Wow
    Zen Arado: :)
    Zen Arado: that's a common phenomenon
    Wol Euler: that would make it dificult
    Calvino Rabeni: I mean, no web surfing
    Zen Arado: Jubus :)
    Calvino Rabeni: Not the communication part
    Zen Arado: he rns a video of the session on Ustream
    Wol Euler: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Is that like YOuTube?
    Zen Arado: yes a place to stream yor videos
    Agatha Macbeth: You okay Aubergine?
    Alfred Kelberry: i've seen a bunch of cute little puppies streamed there once - it was cute :)
    Zen Arado: he does a sessiin live every day
    Zen Arado: http://blog.beliefnet.com/treeleafzen/
    Agatha Macbeth: (seems very quiet)
    Aubergine Mint: having connection problems
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh dear:(
    Aubergine Mint: slow connectiontoday
    Aubergine Mint: sorry
    Agatha Macbeth: NP
    Wol Euler: glad you're still with us
    Agatha Macbeth: Yes
    Aubergine Mint: :)
    Zen Arado: some ppl broadcast their lives on there
    Zen Arado: take a laptop with webcam areound with them
    Zen Arado: strange :)
    Qt Core: have they the time to live their life while broadcasting it ?
    Agatha Macbeth: That must be a bit inconvenient at times
    Zen Arado: well I watched a young woman do it out of curiosity fro awhile
    Alfred Kelberry: qt, they trade it with those who is watching :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Her curiousity or yours Zen?
    Zen Arado: no sex or anything like that though :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh, boring :)
    Zen Arado: just normal life
    Zen Arado: superemarket shoppimg
    Qt Core: i would suspect of abrupt technical problems ;-)
    Zen Arado: mine:)
    Agatha Macbeth: Whatever floats yer boat I guess!
    Zen Arado: only watched for a little while I would add hastily
    Calvino Rabeni: heh
    Agatha Macbeth: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: We believe you Zen
    Zen Arado: but ppl share their lives on blogs too
    Zen Arado: not mch difference?
    Wol Euler: well, I would think there's much more filtering in a blog.
    Qt Core: a lot,
    Qt Core: you choose what not to write about
    Zen Arado: and improve on RL :)
    Zen Arado: just the exciting bits :)
    Alfred Kelberry: i'd rather watch a live feed from a retreat :)
    Alfred Kelberry: what do you do there?
    Zen Arado: but other cultures can be inyeresting
    Qt Core: i'd retreat from watching a feed
    Alfred Kelberry: qt :)
    Zen Arado: isn't that why ppl travel?
    Calvino Rabeni: they travel to become foreign
    arabella Ella: there are many different reasons for travelling
    Calvino Rabeni: business or pleasure?
    arabella Ella: either
    Zen Arado: I live beside a Norman castle and they have busloads of Americans come to see it though it is boring to me
    Alfred Kelberry: going back to my being a kid comment, i travel to become a 3 years old again :)
    Calvino Rabeni: "And what is your ultimate destination, Sir?"
    arabella Ella: that sounds lovely Alfred
    Wol Euler: wb yaku
    arabella Ella: 'to cultivate the child within'
    Alfred Kelberry: :)
    Calvino Rabeni: There is a tourist amphibious vehicle in this town, that has itself become an object of attention for the locals
    Liza Deischer: :)
    Zen Arado: why?
    Zen Arado: you have lakes?
    arabella Ella: at times even tourists themselves could be an object of attention for locals
    Calvino Rabeni: TO reverse the observer /observed relationship, I believe
    Zen Arado: yes:)
    Aubergine Mint: (bye everyone)
    Wol Euler: bye aubergine, take care
    Zen Arado: bye Aubergine
    arabella Ella: bye Aubergine
    Liza Deischer: bye uabergine
    Alfred Kelberry: bye, minty. sorry about your connection :/
    Agatha Macbeth: Bye Aubergine
    Qt Core: bye aubergine
    Agatha Macbeth: What's an invalid key?
    Alfred Kelberry: oh, i need more tea...
    Wol Euler: a message meant for me :) should not have been broadcast, sorry.
    Agatha Macbeth: ;)
    Alfred Kelberry: wol is playing with keys :)
    Alfred Kelberry: yaku, yes, as far as i know
    arabella Ella: have they changed the time Yaku ?
    Wol Euler: eliza will know :)(
    arabella Ella: ah that's interesting ... where at?
    Agatha Macbeth: It said in the group notice it was 2 pm
    Alfred Kelberry: kira cafe?
    arabella Ella: ah ... ty
    Agatha Macbeth: Hello Eliza, why are you standing on Liza?
    Eliza Madrigal: Apologies for arriving on you Liza :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Hee hee :)
    Zen Arado: bye Yaku
    Liza Deischer: thanks for letting me breath again
    arabella Ella: will be off to kira then bye all!
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi everyone, just popping in :)
    Eliza Madrigal: hahaha
    Eliza Madrigal: Nice to meet you :)
    Zen Arado: don't know whether to go to Phen or not
    Agatha Macbeth: u2 as always
    Liza Deischer: :)
    Zen Arado: hard stuff to understand
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah, but so worth it Zen :)
    Zen Arado: bye Ara
    Eliza Madrigal: Bye for now guys :)
    Wol Euler: bye eliza
    Liza Deischer: bye eliza
    Agatha Macbeth: C ya Eliza :)
    Zen Arado: bye all
    Wol Euler: bye zen
    Liza Deischer: bye zen
    Calvino Rabeni: I head off to Phen also - goodbye all.
    Agatha Macbeth: Bye Zen
    Wol Euler: bye cal
    Agatha Macbeth: U2 Cal
    Liza Deischer: bye all
    Wol Euler: bye liza, take care
    Qt Core: bye liza
    Agatha Macbeth: C ya Liza
    Agatha Macbeth: Is Adams working on the new building then?
    Wol Euler: mmhmm
    Wol Euler: putting together two shows, a new setting of the "old" sacred buildings exhibition, and a new show of non-sacred SL art
    Wol Euler: if I understood correctly
    Agatha Macbeth: I see. Where was the old one then?
    Wol Euler: on land that we no longer possess.
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh
    Wol Euler: there was a consolidation of Kira landholdings this summer, that parcel was one that was sold
    Qt Core: and solving the major world issues in spare time ;-)
    Agatha Macbeth: As you do :)
    Agatha Macbeth: That's better
    Wol Euler: :)
    Wol Euler: well, you wouldn't want to make a job of solving thte world's major issues.
    Qt Core: just a hobby ;-)
    Agatha Macbeth: That's what politicians get paid for
    Agatha Macbeth: And usually make a mess of
    Wol Euler nods.
    Agatha Macbeth: Bless 'em!
    Agatha Macbeth: Who is doing the phenomenology thing, Stim?
    Wol Euler: mmmmm, not sure. Pema and someone else, I thought; or is it Gilles?
    Wol Euler: but pema's offfline, so it can't be him.
    Agatha Macbeth: I caught the end of Stim's session last night, after I left here
    Wol Euler: mmmm?
    Agatha Macbeth: Didn't have a clue what was going on tho :)
    Wol Euler smiles. Why was that?
    Agatha Macbeth: I'm a historian, not a scientist!
    Wol Euler: ah
    Agatha Macbeth: Dammit Jim, I'm a doctor!
    Wol Euler laughs.
    Agatha Macbeth: You still there QT?
    Qt Core: always when there are trek quotes
    Agatha Macbeth: :)
    Wol Euler: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: I'm 99 days old today!
    Wol Euler: oooh
    Wol Euler: we'll bake a cake for tomorrow
    Agatha Macbeth: TY :)
    Wol Euler: I wonder how old I am, my rezday is coming up soon
    Alfred Kelberry: ah, sorry, been away
    Wol Euler: I shall be two next Thursday :)
    Agatha Macbeth: 725 days
    Qt Core: i had my first a couple week ago
    Agatha Macbeth: Time flies when you're having fun
    Alfred Kelberry: aga, about the pheno, check out: http://pheno.wik.is/
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh right, ty
    Alfred Kelberry: it has all the news and a link to the new site
    Qt Core: wou;dn't be more honest to count only the days one log in for sl age ? or the connected time ?
    Wol Euler nods. There are people whose profiles suggest great age, but who act like newbs
    Agatha Macbeth: I wonder who the oldest resident is?
    Wol Euler: perhaps they logged on once, didn't understand, and disappeared for 3 yrs
    Alfred Kelberry: qt, right, maybe we should also substract the time when we sleep :)
    Qt Core: linden labs founder i think
    Wol Euler: I met someone born in 2005, that counts as ancient.
    Agatha Macbeth: :)
    Alfred Kelberry: no! you can't live *that* long! :)
    Qt Core: or keep sl open but are lost in stumbleupon (guilty)
    Agatha Macbeth: Evidently you can!
    Wol Euler whaps you with a pillow.
    Alfred Kelberry: wol is the oldest here
    Wol Euler reaches for her Zimmer frame.
    Agatha Macbeth: Poor dear!
    Alfred Kelberry: ouch
    Agatha Macbeth: Wonder how old Storm is?
    Alfred Kelberry: em.. didn't mean it like that :)
    Wol Euler: nov 13, 2006
    Agatha Macbeth: Wow! 1124 days
    Agatha Macbeth: I suppose the big question is why do we it?
    Agatha Macbeth: do
    Agatha Macbeth: SL I mean
    Alfred Kelberry: meet good people :)
    Wol Euler: various reasons: exploring alternative selves
    Agatha Macbeth: There is that :)
    Agatha Macbeth: That too ;)
    Qt Core: chat with strangers that become not so strangers
    Agatha Macbeth: Yep
    Wol Euler: because it beats the hell out of watching TV
    Qt Core: find people with similar interest as in your immediate surrounding there aren't
    Agatha Macbeth: Sure does!
    Wol Euler: that too, qt, yes
    Alfred Kelberry: tv is old
    Wol Euler: or at least they are +very* much harder to find
    Agatha Macbeth: I never watch TV anymore
    Alfred Kelberry: me neither
    Wol Euler: not since 2006
    Qt Core: just a couple of series... but lately online of the tv site
    Alfred Kelberry: heh, about same time as me, wol :)
    Wol Euler: whenever I go to my parents' house, I watch about 22 minutes of TV, to remind myself why I hate
    Wol Euler: *hate it
    Wol Euler: US TV is very good for that.
    Agatha Macbeth: That long?
    Wol Euler: every 3.5 minutes the program stops -- in mid-sentence -- for 3.1 minutes of advertising. Bah.
    Agatha Macbeth: There goes continuity
    Wol Euler: clearly not significant to the makers or consumers of TV
    Alfred Kelberry: wol, it's good actually, this is when you can get off the hook :)
    Qt Core: and here in italy they don't even respect the point where the movie/tf has premade advertising cuts
    Agatha Macbeth: Art for art's sake, money for God's sake
    Wol Euler: tocc?
    Wol Euler: 10cc
    Qt Core: so you got the double interruptions in the show
    Agatha Macbeth: Even
    Agatha Macbeth: afk
    Agatha Macbeth: back
    Wol Euler: wb
    Agatha Macbeth: TY
    Agatha Macbeth: Just put a shot of rum in the microwave
    Wol Euler laughs
    Agatha Macbeth: Can't drink it cold, or whiskey
    Wol Euler: "grog", we call that.
    Agatha Macbeth: Oo arr me bucko!
    Wol Euler: I suppose hte sun is long over the yardarm ...
    Wol Euler: heheheh
    Agatha Macbeth: That didn't work right!
    Agatha Macbeth: Hang on....
    Agatha Macbeth: Damn!!!!!
    Wol Euler: yeah, once something is put on in the wrong place, that becomes its standard
    Wol Euler: right-click and select "attach to", then choose left shoulder
    Agatha Macbeth: It's supposed to sit on me shoulder!
    Wol Euler: then move it until it fits
    Agatha Macbeth: Aha
    Wol Euler: (or right shouldder obviuosly)
    Wol Euler: ok, now edit that, rotate it and move it about
    Wol Euler: good, back a bit
    Agatha Macbeth: That's it
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh
    Wol Euler: look from the side :)
    Agatha Macbeth: How's that?
    Wol Euler: has to go back a bit, look from the side
    Wol Euler: it stands well forward of your shoulder
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah yes
    Wol Euler: down a little, and back towards your head a touch
    Agatha Macbeth: Perfectionist!
    Wol Euler: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Reminds me of that time you were all talking like piates in the PaB logs
    Agatha Macbeth: pirates
    Wol Euler: arrrrrr
    Agatha Macbeth: Where's Quilty these days?
    Qt Core: in the big internet war i stand on ninja side ;-)
    Wol Euler: seldom comes on, alas. He has a new daughter, she takes up most of his time
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh yeah, I remember
    Agatha Macbeth: So he has two now, yes?
    Wol Euler: two kids, yes, perhaps both daughters.
    Agatha Macbeth: Bet he doesn't get much sleep :)
    Wol Euler: heheheh
    Agatha Macbeth: Strange how people come and go isn't it?
    Agatha Macbeth: For one reason and another
    Wol Euler: yep
    Wol Euler: my friends' list is sadly full of people whom I'm no longer in contact with
    Agatha Macbeth: Awww :(
    Wol Euler: though it's equally true to say that they are no longer in contact with me eihter.
    Agatha Macbeth: Six of one, etc...
    Wol Euler: sauce for the gander
    Agatha Macbeth: That too
    Wol Euler watches Alf drinking tea in his sleep.
    Agatha Macbeth: I never really understand all that 'friend' stuff anyway
    Agatha Macbeth: What's the point of it I mean?
    Qt Core: i'm debating if removing or not people i'm not in contact anymore or not
    Agatha Macbeth: I've only got 2 and one's never on line anymore
    Wol Euler: I don't do it, I let them remain there
    Wol Euler: what? 99 days old and only two friends?
    Qt Core: as in would i come to meet them again (on a regular bnasis i mean)
    Agatha Macbeth: I don't pick up friends ver easily
    Agatha Macbeth: very
    Agatha Macbeth: Thank you! :)
    Wol Euler grins
    Qt Core: me neither, mostly are there as there would me some drama if i refuse ;-)
    Agatha Macbeth: Hee hee
    Qt Core: i may trim them down to 5/10 if i applay me to the trimming process
    Agatha Macbeth: It's that Latin temperament QT :)
    Qt Core: not really, i'm not very latin, several people say i more british than italian ;-)
    Agatha Macbeth: Poor you!
    Qt Core: i just "got used" at being mostly alone in my early teen year and that stuck
    Agatha Macbeth: Aww
    Agatha Macbeth: A 'reserved' Italian?
    Qt Core: why you need people when there are books and food :-)
    Agatha Macbeth: This is *true*! :)))
    Wol Euler: hehehehehehehh
    Agatha Macbeth: And drink!
    Qt Core: then the pc and then internet, the definitive meta books.. and people without people
    Agatha Macbeth: Yes
    Qt Core: brb
    Agatha Macbeth: We're an antisocial lot at heart, i guess
    Wol Euler: a different definition of sociality, rather.
    Wol Euler: and it rubs off into RL.
    Wol Euler: I've become much more adept at talking to strangers since being in SL
    Wol Euler: and can report that almost everyone has been delighted to be talked to.
    Agatha Macbeth: Something I've always had issues with!
    Agatha Macbeth: Yes!
    Agatha Macbeth: It can be hard to talk to friends too sometimes :)
    pablito Steampunk: watchout a stranger!! :)
    Wol Euler: I remember the way you hung out on the edges of PaB and the village at first, Agatha :)
    Wol Euler: you ran away the first few times I IMed you :)
    pablito Steampunk: hello all
    Agatha Macbeth: Yes, till you called me down!
    Wol Euler: hello pablito
    pablito Steampunk: are we all playing at being here?
    Agatha Macbeth: Hello
    Wol Euler: we are.
    pablito Steampunk: nice
    Wol Euler: have you been here before? I see you know Kannonji
    Qt Core: hi pablito
    Qt Core: back
    Agatha Macbeth: Hai
    pablito Steampunk: never been here before
    pablito Steampunk: hi
    Wol Euler: well, I can give you a brief rundown on the group
    pablito Steampunk: just been recommended it by a nice creative sl lady
    Wol Euler: ah :)
    pablito Steampunk: oh, that would be great Wol :)
    Wol Euler: that contains a statement of who we are, and gives a link to the website, where you can find far too much info.
    Wol Euler: basically we are a meditation group, we meeet here to discuss our practices and matters arising from them
    pablito Steampunk: hehe, yes this is the problem with the information age
    pablito Steampunk: too much INFORMATION!!
    Agatha Macbeth: Hence the name :)
    pablito Steampunk: hehe
    Wol Euler: I have to ask: We record these meetings (this is the tail end of the 1pm meeting btw)
    pablito Steampunk: we should change it to
    Wol Euler: and we publish them on our website. May we have your permission to include your name adn comments in the published record?
    pablito Steampunk: TOO MUCH INFORMTION AGE
    pablito Steampunk: :)
    pablito Steampunk: and a motto that reads stay discerning
    pablito Steampunk: yes, add me
    Wol Euler: good, ty
    pablito Steampunk: ty :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Anything you say....etc.
    Qt Core: (mostly regarding internet) i vary from being sad as i can't read it all and being happy as i have all of it to read
    pablito Steampunk: thats great, a bit of fame :)
    Wol Euler: mmhmm
    Agatha Macbeth: Damn, I'm getting Neko IMs
    Wol Euler laughs
    pablito Steampunk: lol
    Wol Euler: check to see if you're growig a tail
    Agatha Macbeth: They'll go away eventually
    Agatha Macbeth: I have several tails
    pablito Steampunk: alot of ppl moan about being bombarded with IM's
    pablito Steampunk: just filter
    Agatha Macbeth: Yeah, it can be a pain
    Qt Core: i think i developed a natural deterrent, i neve got those
    Wol Euler: I see them as an opportunity to practice patience and generosity :)
    Agatha Macbeth: I find it hard to concentrate on more than 1 thing
    Agatha Macbeth: Hee hee QT
    pablito Steampunk: same for me Qt haha
    Agatha Macbeth: You're a Scouser then Pablito?
    pablito Steampunk: haha
    pablito Steampunk: well yes
    Agatha Macbeth: Liverpool or Everton?
    Qt Core: a too weird profile/name that is seem too much suspect to being male so we aren't interesting targets ?
    pablito Steampunk: i was born in London, but move to the outslirts opf Liverpool form the age of 1
    pablito Steampunk: outskirts*
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah
    pablito Steampunk: i don;t have a scouse accent
    Agatha Macbeth: Dat's grrreat lah!
    Alfred Kelberry: well, i must scoot now
    pablito Steampunk: Ta La!! lol
    Agatha Macbeth: Bye Alf, didn't realise you were still there!
    Qt Core: bye alfred
    Alfred Kelberry: bye all. enjoy this lovely sl night :)
    Wol Euler: bye alf, happy sleeping elsewhere :)
    Alfred Kelberry: well, i was away :)
    pablito Steampunk: bye Alf
    Agatha Macbeth: It's afternoon isn't it?
    Wol Euler: somewhere on this round world it is afternoon, yes :)
    pablito Steampunk: well in England it is 23:02pm
    pablito Steampunk: late evening
    Agatha Macbeth: I meant in SL
    pablito Steampunk: oh
    Wol Euler: yes, 3pm
    pablito Steampunk: slt
    Agatha Macbeth: It confuses me
    pablito Steampunk: slt is Californian time
    Agatha Macbeth: Yeah
    Agatha Macbeth: Time, he flexes like whore, etc.........
    pablito Steampunk: Time is very strange
    Wol Euler: oooh, I have to think hard to get that one. Early Bowie?
    Agatha Macbeth: Yes, Aladdin Sane
    Wol Euler: Ah!
    Wol Euler: heheheheheh
    Agatha Macbeth: You still got it tho!
    Agatha Macbeth: Smartass :)
    Wol Euler grins. I would have got there, yes.
    Wol Euler: old ass.
    Qt Core: i wonder why the viewer has no local time shown near the slt, then i think they do like malls and casinos, no watches around, at least for non-slt timezoner
    Agatha Macbeth: Look who's talking :)
    Wol Euler: I meant myself :)
    Wol Euler: but now that you mentino it
    Agatha Macbeth: Oops. Not having a good night
    Wol Euler giggles
    pablito Steampunk: lol
    pablito Steampunk: are you three guardians?
    Agatha Macbeth: Not me
    Wol Euler: Qt and I are
    Wol Euler: Aggers here is new.
    Agatha Macbeth: Stop it Aggers!
    pablito Steampunk: oh
    Agatha Macbeth: Well, new-ish
    pablito Steampunk: how do you become a guardian?
    Wol Euler: basically by hanging around, fitting the group, taking part in conversation in a way that fits
    Wol Euler: and then being invited to join.
    Agatha Macbeth: Best o' luck!
    pablito Steampunk: i see
    pablito Steampunk: so its down to conversational contributions
    pablito Steampunk: and frquency of those contributions
    Agatha Macbeth: I'm buggered then :)
    Wol Euler: well, yes and no.
    Wol Euler: It's down to being in sympathy with our aims and our style of being#
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah, Storm is in the village
    Wol Euler: we are not out to be the biggest group in SL.
    Agatha Macbeth: He's flown off
    pablito Steampunk: well, as you said you have a website full of literature about the group
    pablito Steampunk: so i take it if a person reads it throughly and shows his understandings of it, he becomes a guardian?
    Agatha Macbeth: Read the PaB logs, they're very enlightening!
    pablito Steampunk: ok
    Agatha Macbeth: And funny too
    Wol Euler: pablito, just show up for a while and see if you like it.
    Wol Euler: you don't need to be a guardian to attend meetings
    pablito Steampunk: にゃ~ん♪♪
    pablito Steampunk: ok, but no promises
    Agatha Macbeth: Or even if you understand it :)
    pablito Steampunk: yes, of course
    pablito Steampunk: who knows where our karma is going to take us Lol
    Qt Core: the only thing you will not get from the site are the long, non-akward silences ;-)
    Wol Euler: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Silence is golden :)
    pablito Steampunk: yes
    Agatha Macbeth: But my eyes still see....
    pablito Steampunk: ever been to Hikari?
    Wol Euler: "god gave us two ears and one mouth so that we could hear twice as much as we say"
    Wol Euler: yes, I know it well.
    Agatha Macbeth: And that from an atheist! :)
    pablito Steampunk: that is my favourite sim so far
    Qt Core: read the name in several profiles, never been there
    pablito Steampunk: so peaceful and beautiful
    Agatha Macbeth: Mieum is really nice too
    Wol Euler: it's Moon's sim, most of the building and landscaping is his work
    pablito Steampunk: and the guy who owns it is so nice
    pablito Steampunk: yes Moon Fargis
    Agatha Macbeth: Even if he does look like a teddy bear :)
    pablito Steampunk: lol
    Agatha Macbeth: Most of the time
    Qt Core: ohhh, then i was there once ;-)
    pablito Steampunk: he was dressed in Egyptian the last the i saw him lol
    Wol Euler: I've become used to the teddy bear, his monk outfit seems like the "fake appearance" now
    Agatha Macbeth: As a teddy bear QT?
    Qt Core: no, this av, maybe the trek officer ;-)
    Agatha Macbeth: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Captain Teddy Bear
    Agatha Macbeth: Fire all phasers Rupert!
    pablito Steampunk: brb
    pablito Steampunk: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Nice outfit QT!
    Qt Core: ty
    Wol Euler: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Is that the classic or the new generation version?
    Qt Core: if you wander in trek sim they will gave you one
    Wol Euler: do they have them in black? :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Didn't know there was a Trek sim!
    Qt Core: this one should be late tng/ds9/voy
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah
    Qt Core: ther e are many, really a lot of them
    Agatha Macbeth: Really?
    Qt Core: wit a lot of RP too (i don't like it they do it too seriously)
    Agatha Macbeth: Have to check it out :)
    Qt Core: time to go sleep, 00:23 here
    Agatha Macbeth: Ciao, QT
    Wol Euler: goodnight qt, sleep well
    Qt Core: ciao, 'night all
    Agatha Macbeth: What time is it with you Wol?
    Wol Euler: same, 00:25 now
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah, you're an hour in front of me then
    Wol Euler: mmhmm
    Agatha Macbeth: You working tomorrow?
    Wol Euler: only a half-day
    Wol Euler: hardly counts :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Still, as long as you get paid :)
    Wol Euler: oh yes
    Agatha Macbeth: Does help!
    Agatha Macbeth: especially the way things are right now
    Wol Euler: mmhmm
    Wol Euler: and with christmas holiday coming up.
    Agatha Macbeth: That too
    Wol Euler: I have an awful lot of work to get finished before then
    Agatha Macbeth: I'll be thinking of you! :)
    Wol Euler: hello SS :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Hi SSL!
    pablito Steampunk: aha
    SophiaSharon Larnia: smiles
    Agatha Macbeth: Late arrival eh?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: well or early!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: and still recording too?
    Wol Euler: mmhmm
    Wol Euler: sure, why not :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia will watch her mouth then :)
    Agatha Macbeth: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: So how are you Soph?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: glad you found it ok pablito :)
    pablito Steampunk: yes, nice recomendation:)
    Wol Euler: aaaah, were you the clever Sl builder lady?
    pablito Steampunk: yes, she sure is
    SophiaSharon Larnia: me?? looks around
    Agatha Macbeth: Didn't know you were a builder?
    pablito Steampunk: your too modest
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i play at it
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i wouldnt call it clever, yet
    Wol Euler: [14:52] pablito Steampunk: just been recommended it by a nice creative sl lady
    pablito Steampunk: you have got me interested in the building world now
    pablito Steampunk: yes, well quoted lol
    SophiaSharon Larnia: building is easy its the creativity that has me pulling my hair out
    SophiaSharon Larnia: oh and the textures
    Agatha Macbeth: :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: its an insidious pastitme easy to get addicted
    Agatha Macbeth: Like SL?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: oh yea
    pablito Steampunk: does that bell go off every 15 minutes all the time?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: laugsh
    Agatha Macbeth: Yep
    Wol Euler: mmhmm
    pablito Steampunk: good idea
    Agatha Macbeth: But you get used to it
    pablito Steampunk: its like saying here and now !!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes pablito, is is a 90 second meditation every 15 minutes
    SophiaSharon Larnia: sorry for the typos
    Agatha Macbeth: We all do it
    pablito Steampunk: typonese, we are all well versed in it now :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Funny how you always understand what people mean tho
    Wol Euler nods.
    pablito Steampunk: *nods* also
    Agatha Macbeth: Even when it's spelt all wrong
    pablito Steampunk: well, if all the words were spelt wrong in a sentence i may have some trouble
    SophiaSharon Larnia: even then you can figure it out, most of the time
    Agatha Macbeth: Eliza's getting close
    pablito Steampunk: but yes, it can be decoded with more strenous reading lol
    SophiaSharon Larnia: Hi Eliza!
    Agatha Macbeth: Hello Eliza :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Gone again
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hehe
    SophiaSharon Larnia: uh oh brb back im having an afk kind of day sorries
    pablito Steampunk: i've seen eliza at the Buddha centre a few times
    Wol Euler: :)
    pablito Steampunk: ok sophia
    SophiaSharon Larnia: back --> Hi again Eliza :))
    pablito Steampunk: HEH HEH
    pablito Steampunk: lol

    Surprise PaB!

    Eliza Madrigal: Hi! :) Sorry I keep popping in and out... just realized you all were here this time
    Agatha Macbeth: Here at last!
    Wol Euler: :)
    Eliza Madrigal thinks it is funny that when I fly with the skates on, it is flying skating
    SophiaSharon Larnia: oh that is funny i havent done that since i was a noob ;p
    SophiaSharon Larnia: smiles
    pablito Steampunk: haha
    Eliza Madrigal is an eternal noob
    Agatha Macbeth: :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: in fact have somewhere in the bottomless pit of my inventory
    Eliza Madrigal: :))
    SophiaSharon Larnia: how are you Eliza?
    Eliza Madrigal: Pretty well, thanks, a little scattered perhaps
    Eliza Madrigal: :) You?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: me too havent come here as much as i have for that reason
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah, just feeling unsettled?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: you could say that
    pablito Steampunk: whats casing the unsettlement do you think?
    pablito Steampunk: causing*
    SophiaSharon Larnia: its kind of personal, but i dont have a prob saying if you dont :P
    Agatha Macbeth: Aww
    Wol Euler points to the recorder.
    pablito Steampunk: haha
    pablito Steampunk: its like big brother ahh
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i feel profoundly sensitive about what i see in the world, through these eyes, what i experience living
    Eliza Madrigal: Well, there is big big brother though... editor
    Agatha Macbeth: Hmmm, yes
    SophiaSharon Larnia: experiential observations
    SophiaSharon Larnia: its easier to just shut it down sometimes
    Wol Euler: we can indeed shut it off.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: nods
    Wol Euler: well, I say "we", I am about to head to bed, it's nearly 1 am. goodnight my dears, enjoy the weekend
    Eliza Madrigal: Night Wol :)
    pablito Steampunk: yes, it can be a burden to have alot of awareness
    SophiaSharon Larnia: lol Wol nice to see you :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Bye Wol :)
    pablito Steampunk: night Wol
    Wol Euler: bye for now, take care
    Eliza Madrigal: Oh, Sharon, yes...
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hmm was it something i said lol
    Eliza Madrigal: Sensitivity is a gift, but a burden too
    Eliza Madrigal: I'm sure not!
    Agatha Macbeth: True Eliza :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Wol said something the other day that knocked me right off my chair.... about sensitivity I think... one moment....
    pablito Steampunk: looking forward to this..
    pablito Steampunk: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Drum roll.....
    Eliza Madrigal: Somehow it was a tremendous comfort...
    SophiaSharon Larnia: giggles
    Eliza Madrigal: here I found it:
    Eliza Madrigal: Eliza Madrigal: that's something that keeps coming up... balancing intensity of focus, with lightness...both Wol Euler thinks of watching children playing. They are very serious, intent, utterly immersed in what they're doing, and enjoying it, Geoff Baily: ;) Maxine Walden: perhaps we could watch ourselves lightly during the next pause, sort of as Wol has suggested... Alfred Kelberry: wol, well, a broken house from cubes is a tradegy to them :) Geoff Baily: ok Wol Euler: perhaps they're right, alf; perhaps it is, and it's a weakness in us that we don't cry with them over it.
    Agatha Macbeth: Mm
    Eliza Madrigal: I don't know... maybe just me but I found that incredibly moving... have thought about it so much
    SophiaSharon Larnia: a weakness, yes, the ego hardens
    SophiaSharon Larnia: to soften that lets alot in
    SophiaSharon Larnia: or maybe i just like being sad *shrugs*
    Eliza Madrigal: yes.... I wonder how we can be soft and also function
    Agatha Macbeth: :) Soph
    Agatha Macbeth: we are what we are
    Eliza Madrigal: Well, sadness in itself isn't a bad thing... feeling it means we are alive
    pablito Steampunk: when you say soft, do you mean passive?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hmm
    Agatha Macbeth: Or receptive?
    pablito Steampunk: yes
    Eliza Madrigal: funny this comes up a few times over the last few days... maybe holiday season is more sad for some
    SophiaSharon Larnia: a bit of both, really, ill have to think about that thanks
    Agatha Macbeth: Well that's me all over
    Eliza Madrigal: receptive Agatha?
    Agatha Macbeth: Yes, too much sometimes :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: seeing what is.... not ascribing my personal judgement on it
    pablito Steampunk: well, whats the difference between being passive and receptive?
    Agatha Macbeth: Maybe there isn't a difference?
    Eliza Madrigal: Hm... passive/receptive are fine qualities...maybe it is just about feeling imbalance...
    Agatha Macbeth: Imbalance?
    Eliza Madrigal: that there is an ebb and flow... time for each and perhaps harmony hides sometimes
    SophiaSharon Larnia: passive to me means helplessness, even if its temporary, or illusory
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah
    SophiaSharon Larnia: receptive to me feels more'seeing' accepting'
    Eliza Madrigal: receptive as in open... which may not be weak...
    pablito Steampunk: would it be fair to say then..
    SophiaSharon Larnia: much stength needed to be open
    Agatha Macbeth: Yes
    Agatha Macbeth: Courage too
    Eliza Madrigal nods
    pablito Steampunk: being passive is taking things in but not as consciously as being in a receptive state?
    Eliza Madrigal: pablito, yes, interesting angle
    Eliza Madrigal: And just taking things in means they will perhaps not be faced.. acted on, etc...
    pablito Steampunk: its like your in the fully awakened state, and taking nthe data in, processing it
    SophiaSharon Larnia: watching a play vs being in the play
    Eliza Madrigal: so becomes shadow land... whereas receptivity allows yes... processing.. engaging, appreciation
    pablito Steampunk: or even worst
    Eliza Madrigal: YES Sharon.... nods vigorously
    Agatha Macbeth: Some are more sensitive than others I guess
    Eliza Madrigal wants to be part of the band :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: giggles
    pablito Steampunk: in a passive state you have more potential for being manipulated
    Agatha Macbeth: What instrument Eliza?
    Eliza Madrigal: Well... Hm... maybe a cello but guitar or violin will do....
    Eliza Madrigal: haha
    Agatha Macbeth: Love to hear it!
    Agatha Macbeth: Let's start a PaB band!
    pablito Steampunk: lol
    Eliza Madrigal smiles
    Eliza Madrigal nods to pablito.... there is though, a kind of active passivity isn't there... ala gandhi?
    pablito Steampunk: にゃ~ん♪♪
    pablito Steampunk: no a pablito band plz lol
    Agatha Macbeth: What would you play then Pab?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: certainly enough for a entire symphony!
    pablito Steampunk: i would play the sitar
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah, Ravi Shankar!
    Eliza Madrigal smiles
    pablito Steampunk: haha
    Agatha Macbeth: Or was it george Harrison?
    pablito Steampunk: both
    pablito Steampunk: and many others
    Agatha Macbeth: Yep
    Eliza Madrigal: here comes the sun... dadadada
    pablito Steampunk: hehe
    Agatha Macbeth: Hehehe
    Agatha Macbeth: Where are they now?
    pablito Steampunk: who?
    Agatha Macbeth: All the sitar player!
    Agatha Macbeth: players
    Eliza Madrigal: Your outfit is nearly Sgnt Pepper, Agatha
    pablito Steampunk: in india lol
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Really?
    Agatha Macbeth: Black Opal wouldn't agree i don't think :)
    pablito Steampunk: no, spread around the globe passing on the great vibes
    Eliza Madrigal: Yes, and the bell sleeves... so nice. Well, perhaps a bit more modern :)
    Agatha Macbeth: :) Eliza
    pablito Steampunk: yes haha
    Agatha Macbeth: Well, it's midnight for me folks, gotta go
    Eliza Madrigal: beautiful, lonely, music is born of sadness often....
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah, bye Agatha!
    Eliza Madrigal: Nice to see you
    pablito Steampunk: bye :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Thanks, c ya later, byeeeee
    SophiaSharon Larnia: bye Agatha :)
    Eliza Madrigal: So have you all been here since the earlier session? wow
    Eliza Madrigal: You're battling Adelene and company, be careful :)
    Eliza Madrigal: hahah
    SophiaSharon Larnia: no we havent i was surprised to see people here
    pablito Steampunk: this is my first time here Eliza :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Ohh :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i dont know how was, but the recorder has been on the entire time, i beleive
    pablito Steampunk: when does todays session normally start?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: who*
    Eliza Madrigal: We're here at 1,7,1, 7
    Eliza Madrigal: SLT :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: 1 am, 7 am, 1 pm and 7 pm Pabiito
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes SLT
    Eliza Madrigal: and some of us live here... heheh
    pablito Steampunk: so this one would of started at 1 pm?
    Eliza Madrigal: yes
    SophiaSharon Larnia: laughs
    pablito Steampunk: a 3 hr sess
    Eliza Madrigal: There was a session in 2008 some time which ran from one into another...
    Eliza Madrigal: but I think that was deliberate :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: six hours Pablito
    pablito Steampunk: omg
    Eliza Madrigal: We DO talk about having SL retreats though
    Eliza Madrigal: how that might work, etc
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes omg is right :P
    Eliza Madrigal smiles
    pablito Steampunk: do you two know each other long?
    Eliza Madrigal: sometimes we scratch the surface by the end of the hr
    pablito Steampunk: hehe
    SophiaSharon Larnia: since i came to pab 6 months ago ithink :) we were roomies at a retreat too
    Eliza Madrigal: Hm, we've known one another for I guess more than 6 months...
    pablito Steampunk: roomies?
    Eliza Madrigal: and yes we've roomed together :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: ok was more than 6 months (has no sense of time)
    Eliza Madrigal: haha...I might be wrong
    Eliza Madrigal: I feel I've known you forever
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: laughs
    pablito Steampunk: yes
    pablito Steampunk: it happens for me that
    SophiaSharon Larnia: in slt 6 months is forever or close
    Eliza Madrigal: And pablito I've seen you various places in SL.. Nice to formally meet you
    Eliza Madrigal: True...concentrated here
    pablito Steampunk: and i've only been born to sl for just over a month lol
    Eliza Madrigal: Oh wow
    pablito Steampunk: i know
    pablito Steampunk: i must admit, i've been obssessively on ever since
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes it ebbs and flows
    pablito Steampunk: i'll lessen over time i suspect
    Eliza Madrigal: :) yes definitely
    pablito Steampunk: yes, nice to foramally meet you too :)
    Eliza Madrigal: The first few months I felt very indulgent... but so much to learn and experience
    Eliza Madrigal: I guess there still is :)
    pablito Steampunk: thats it
    pablito Steampunk: i'm fresh
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah, a great expression
    Eliza Madrigal: That's the way to be all the time perhaps :)
    pablito Steampunk: only just before Sophia was showing me some building that i have never tried before
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes was about to say that
    Eliza Madrigal: :)Oh neat...
    SophiaSharon Larnia: the way to be all of the time :)
    Eliza Madrigal wonders what Sharon is up to
    pablito Steampunk: i''m still classed as a noob really :)
    Eliza Madrigal: She's a marvel
    SophiaSharon Larnia: making weird buildings and freaking myself out
    SophiaSharon Larnia: nothing in particular
    Eliza Madrigal laughs
    pablito Steampunk: no, but its the experimenting thats amazing
    Eliza Madrigal: Not AT you... WITH you
    pablito Steampunk: seeing what you can do
    Eliza Madrigal nods
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes, open and see what comes out, im too sensite for it
    SophiaSharon Larnia: sensitive
    SophiaSharon Larnia: blah blah
    Eliza Madrigal: Artist Nature
    pablito Steampunk: what star signs are you two?
    Eliza Madrigal: It is a gift, though I know it doesn't feel like that often
    SophiaSharon Larnia: im an aries but nothing like a typical aries
    Eliza Madrigal: Leo
    SophiaSharon Larnia: more like a taurus, im on the cusp
    pablito Steampunk: aries and leo
    pablito Steampunk: but due to sl, i've learnt more about astrology
    SophiaSharon Larnia: you?
    pablito Steampunk: Aquarius
    SophiaSharon Larnia: ahh
    Eliza Madrigal share a birthday with madonna but is definitely not as exposing... or at least not intentionally
    pablito Steampunk: how we have ascendant signs
    Eliza Madrigal: hahah
    pablito Steampunk: moon signs sin signs
    pablito Steampunk: sun signs
    pablito Steampunk: haha
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i cant deny that the earth is moved by constant tides of energy flow, but am still not sure of anything else about it
    pablito Steampunk: in can get quite complex
    Eliza Madrigal: SL has been very surprising with regard to buddhism in particular...
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes ive used internet programs ;p
    Eliza Madrigal: so much to learn and such giving people
    pablito Steampunk: yes
    Eliza Madrigal: I think that's the big surprise... that everyone kept warning me about people in SL at first... but so many come here just to give and share
    pablito Steampunk: but i've learnt you can get overwhelmed by it
    Eliza Madrigal: and Be :)
    Eliza Madrigal: when on too long, you mean?
    pablito Steampunk: going too frequently
    pablito Steampunk: many sessions occurring
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes i understand, sometimes im logged in and afk and forget
    Eliza Madrigal: I think there is a season of finding where you want to settle
    pablito Steampunk: yes
    pablito Steampunk: i must admit, but there is n o rule to this
    Eliza Madrigal: That's a positive, imo
    Eliza Madrigal: trying everything out... meeting people in various contexts... listening to teachers, etc..
    pablito Steampunk: that i feel more at peace when taking something in without too many other subject bombarding me
    pablito Steampunk: it is
    Eliza Madrigal: hm
    pablito Steampunk: but your own sense of grounding can get distrubed by too much
    Eliza Madrigal apologizes for plowing over the belll
    pablito Steampunk: lol
    Eliza Madrigal: yes, quite true ...
    SophiaSharon Larnia: thats wahts conforting to me in this group sometimes, the conversation seems to move at a slow pace, but theres thinking behind the silences
    pablito Steampunk: yes
    SophiaSharon Larnia: but other times, chat chat chat
    Eliza Madrigal nods!!!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: laughs
    Eliza Madrigal: hahaha
    SophiaSharon Larnia: which is cool too :)
    pablito Steampunk: i think the bell plays a vital role in keeping the peaceful conversations
    SophiaSharon Larnia: oh yes
    Eliza Madrigal: definitely
    Eliza Madrigal: a wonderful tool
    Eliza Madrigal: when people don't ignore it like me...
    Eliza Madrigal: hahah
    Eliza Madrigal: But I rarely do!
    pablito Steampunk: i cannot ignore it
    SophiaSharon Larnia: its not an official session lol
    pablito Steampunk: it pierces my ears lol
    SophiaSharon Larnia: or is it?
    Eliza Madrigal: I think I'm a little excited because of that... like "surprise PaB"
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hahaha
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yea i couldnt beleive all the green dots on the map
    Eliza Madrigal: Spontaneous PaB
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yay!
    Eliza Madrigal smiles widely
    pablito Steampunk: lol
    Eliza Madrigal: PaB spontaneously arising
    Eliza Madrigal: with us in it
    Eliza Madrigal sounds goofy
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: noo
    pablito Steampunk: にゃ~ん♪♪
    pablito Steampunk: no
    pablito Steampunk: had to do that lol
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hahah i love that gesture
    Eliza Madrigal laughs... one month and you have more gestures than I do
    Eliza Madrigal giggles
    pablito Steampunk: lol
    SophiaSharon Larnia: when i got new version of emerald, i think my gestures deactivated
    SophiaSharon Larnia: haha
    Eliza Madrigal: Oh, love that one
    Eliza Madrigal: Ohhh you use emerald?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes
    pablito Steampunk: yes
    Eliza Madrigal: how is that?
    pablito Steampunk: i like the radar
    SophiaSharon Larnia: for the free temporary of textures
    SophiaSharon Larnia: temp upload of textures i mean
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah, so it comes with things...
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i already had mystitool but yea the sim radar is cool
    pablito Steampunk: brb
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes Eliza
    SophiaSharon Larnia: ok Pablito
    Eliza Madrigal: Sure
    Eliza Madrigal: Hm... I'm a little hesitant to download it...
    SophiaSharon Larnia is extremely hungry and has to eat something soon
    Eliza Madrigal: maybe affect the computer... Is it free?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes i understand Eliza
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes its free
    SophiaSharon Larnia: it hasnt affected mine in any way that i can tell
    SophiaSharon Larnia: thnaks for the chips!!!
    Eliza Madrigal: That help? :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: giggles and nams nams
    Eliza Madrigal: I'm a mom... one of our strategies is to bribe with snacks...
    SophiaSharon Larnia: ah perfect!
    Eliza Madrigal: :D
    Eliza Madrigal wonders what Yakuzza is going to say when he sees his log...
    SophiaSharon Larnia: omg its Yakuzza's log LOL
    Eliza Madrigal: he is probably going to send an email soon "Didn't receive log"
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i forgot to check
    SophiaSharon Larnia: or 3 hour log!/!?
    Eliza Madrigal: hahah
    SophiaSharon Larnia: is covered with crumbs
    Eliza Madrigal hands you a napkin
    SophiaSharon Larnia: ah thanks
    Eliza Madrigal: Now you're prob thirsty
    SophiaSharon Larnia: nice beer but now im floating
    SophiaSharon Larnia: giggles
    Eliza Madrigal: hehehe
    SophiaSharon Larnia: gulps yum, thanks a lot
    Eliza Madrigal giggles... try to walk
    SophiaSharon Larnia: its supposed to be freezing rain tonight so stayed home, it looks fine out
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah... have you had lots of snow?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: no but tons of rain, and then freezing temps
    Eliza Madrigal: Here we've been near 90!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hairy ride to work the other night
    SophiaSharon Larnia: wow lucky
    Eliza Madrigal: Oh, yes that's something I don't romantize.. driving in snow.
    SophiaSharon Larnia thinks of moving
    Eliza Madrigal: romanticize
    SophiaSharon Larnia: seriously
    Eliza Madrigal: haha... believe me... when it is 90 through spring, summer, winter, fall....
    SophiaSharon Larnia: my sis lives in california
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah, now that is nice... cool at night :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: the weather there always seems the same, ive imagined it would get boring
    SophiaSharon Larnia: my sense of time is slightly skewed as it is, i think in that environment it would be worse
    Eliza Madrigal: Oh it never rains in southern... california...
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes she is in ocean county
    Eliza Madrigal: Yes, there's something nice about changes
    Eliza Madrigal: I'd like to move to Asheville NC I think...
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i do sense time less by the clock or the day, but by the change in light and season
    Eliza Madrigal: have a friend there and the weather seems moderate
    Eliza Madrigal: and yet change-y
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes, seems like a perfect compromise Eliza
    Eliza Madrigal: "The paris of the south"
    SophiaSharon Larnia: laughs
    Eliza Madrigal: and an art community
    SophiaSharon Larnia: really?? I never heard that cool
    Eliza Madrigal: but PA seems nice to me too :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: it is, i cant really complain, just the snow
    Eliza Madrigal: We're drinking, but pablito is slumped over
    Eliza Madrigal: heheh
    SophiaSharon Larnia: uh oh
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hahaha
    Eliza Madrigal: drunken entanglement
    SophiaSharon Larnia: when he comes back i will have to get dinner for real
    Eliza Madrigal: Yes Okay :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i thought at first that said drunken enlightenment
    SophiaSharon Larnia: giggles
    Eliza Madrigal: Nice to see you for a bit though
    SophiaSharon Larnia: not very conducive
    SophiaSharon Larnia: but i have had an ah ha moment or two when drunk
    SophiaSharon Larnia: blushes
    Eliza Madrigal: There are stories of great masters painting works of art while drunken...
    SophiaSharon Larnia: even if it was false
    Eliza Madrigal: awareness seemingly unaffected
    Eliza Madrigal smiles.... sure... no formulas! :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: well, the barriers we put around ourself seem to be lessened by alcohol
    SophiaSharon Larnia: in a certain amount
    Eliza Madrigal: But reads back what you wrote and blushes too... hahah
    Eliza Madrigal nods
    SophiaSharon Larnia: well, i meant i thought of something, but wasnt being dirty minded lol
    Eliza Madrigal doubts there is a substance under the sun which doesn't have a useful purpose of some sort :)
    Eliza Madrigal grins guiltily
    SophiaSharon Larnia: a natural substance
    SophiaSharon Larnia: or even go out there and say man made
    Eliza Madrigal: pablito just had an ah hah
    SophiaSharon Larnia: to teach you about the nature of reality
    SophiaSharon Larnia: Ah!
    pablito Steampunk: hello again :)
    Eliza Madrigal smiles
    Eliza Madrigal: Hola :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: ok i have to eat dinner i havent eaten all day
    pablito Steampunk: talking about substances here lol
    Eliza Madrigal: yikes ... all day???
    pablito Steampunk: lol
    SophiaSharon Larnia: wanted to say bye before i log off Pablito
    pablito Steampunk: oh ok
    Eliza Madrigal: so polite :)
    pablito Steampunk: yes
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes i work nights so slept half the day ;p
    SophiaSharon Larnia: not as bad as it sounds
    Eliza Madrigal: :) so time for breakfast
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes
    SophiaSharon Larnia: grins
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    pablito Steampunk: enjoy your meal
    SophiaSharon Larnia: bye for now see ya
    pablito Steampunk: bye
    Eliza Madrigal: See you soon Sharon
    pablito Steampunk: so two left :)
    Eliza Madrigal: yes... wanna play stare-eyes?
    pablito Steampunk: after this marathon session lol
    Eliza Madrigal: hahah
    pablito Steampunk: lol
    pablito Steampunk: how do you play stare eyes?
    Eliza Madrigal: Were you here for the actual session?
    Eliza Madrigal: Hm, actually don't think it is possible in SL...
    pablito Steampunk: just the last 15 mins i think
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah, interesting topic?
    pablito Steampunk: actually when you mention that, i must of missed it
    Eliza Madrigal: (For stare-eyes you sit facing and stare until the other blinks... funny faces are obligatory)
    pablito Steampunk: haha
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    pablito Steampunk: wow, i like your eyes
    Eliza Madrigal: Well hopefully you'll join us again at a session... have a feeling you will :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Thanks!
    pablito Steampunk: yin and yang eyes wow
    pablito Steampunk: you like the Tao?
    Eliza Madrigal: :) Balance/// ebb flow
    Eliza Madrigal: yes
    Eliza Madrigal: Are you familiar?
    pablito Steampunk: have you read the Tao te Ching?
    Eliza Madrigal: Well, sort of...
    pablito Steampunk: haha, same here
    pablito Steampunk: scanned som eof it
    Eliza Madrigal: I have an audio book that I've listened to... but with audios you miss things.. so have to listen several times, which i've not done
    pablito Steampunk: most eastern literature is dense
    Eliza Madrigal nods...layered
    pablito Steampunk: yes, very layered
    Eliza Madrigal: There are wonderful lines in the Tao... and some ideas PaB dwells on...
    Eliza Madrigal: like wu wei...
    pablito Steampunk: you can read just one analect and be totally overwhelmed by it
    pablito Steampunk: wu wei yes
    pablito Steampunk: remind me
    pablito Steampunk: i remember Alan watts writing about that
    Eliza Madrigal: Well its funny for me to summarize... but my understanding right this moment is of a non-effort 'state' in which everything arises completely....
    Eliza Madrigal: or maybe place would be a better word than state...
    pablito Steampunk: yes
    Eliza Madrigal: and we've had conversations about whether it is possible to work that way as a group... allowing Being to operate, in a sense....
    pablito Steampunk: nice
    Eliza Madrigal: orchestrating us... perhaps like the band we were talking about?
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    pablito Steampunk: i have a quote here taken from an Alan watts book
    Eliza Madrigal listens
    pablito Steampunk: wanna see it?
    pablito Steampunk: ok
    Eliza Madrigal: yes very much
    pablito Steampunk: "the Tao does nothing and yet nothing is left undone"
    Eliza Madrigal: MMM, yes
    pablito Steampunk: The famous words of Lao-Tzu obviously cannot be taken in their literal sense,
    pablito Steampunk: for the principle of "non-action" (wu-wei)
    pablito Steampunk: is not to be considered inertia, laziness, laissez-faire or mere passivity.
    Eliza Madrigal smiles... so we come full circle :) Active engagement in receptive Nothingness? :)))
    pablito Steampunk: like what we were talking about earlier
    Eliza Madrigal: YES :)
    Eliza Madrigal: That to me, is wu wei...
    Eliza Madrigal: with an outer effect of synchronicity
    pablito Steampunk: the diference between passivity and receptivity
    pablito Steampunk: a Jung term :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Yes... Hm... now I have to see your profile...
    pablito Steampunk: sure, take a good look
    pablito Steampunk: yours is less text but nice pics
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah, nice. What is shunyata forest? :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah yes... I'm in between quotes and such right now
    pablito Steampunk: oh yes
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    pablito Steampunk: Lucis Haiku, a lover lady who owns the sim
    pablito Steampunk: she does excellent guided meditations
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah, nice
    pablito Steampunk: and she likes her circles
    pablito Steampunk: hehe
    Eliza Madrigal: I asked because sunyata seems a bit what we were discussing too....
    pablito Steampunk: probably
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: So what did Sharon teach you to build?
    pablito Steampunk: the basics
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah, you can texture a box now?
    pablito Steampunk: like build a box, change shape, enlarge
    Eliza Madrigal: That's basically what I can do :)
    pablito Steampunk: add texture
    Eliza Madrigal: after being here since January... heh... taking things slowly... but most will tell you that once you can work with the boxes, sky is the limit
    pablito Steampunk: when i was navigating trhe tools with her, i notied how much there is to learn
    pablito Steampunk: yes
    Eliza Madrigal: She's quite talented... after retreat, she recreated the space we had been in...
    Eliza Madrigal: was very impressive
    Eliza Madrigal: And she's made animated chakras, etc
    pablito Steampunk: and she is very modest
    Eliza Madrigal nods... quite
    pablito Steampunk: she showed me a madalla she was creating
    pablito Steampunk: mandala*
    Eliza Madrigal: did she?? Oh I've been curious to see that .. saw at the very beginning...
    pablito Steampunk: she didn't llike her four gates
    Eliza Madrigal: that's a wonderful use of SL, imo...
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah, I'm sure she'll keep tweaking
    pablito Steampunk: she though they were not proportinal
    pablito Steampunk: i didn;t see that
    Eliza Madrigal: It does seem like a project that may require others
    Eliza Madrigal: yes, but she's measuring against the image in her mind perhaps...
    pablito Steampunk: do you know who created this plot?
    Eliza Madrigal: well, of course :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Storm Nordwind
    Eliza Madrigal: If you've seen kira cafe, he also built that...
    pablito Steampunk: and he is a guardian?
    Eliza Madrigal: and also Kuan Yin Terraces... if you've seen that...
    Eliza Madrigal: Yes, indeed... one of the very first
    Eliza Madrigal: and most active
    pablito Steampunk: i don't think i have
    Eliza Madrigal: Let me give you some landmarks :)
    pablito Steampunk: so this is his baby
    pablito Steampunk: ok
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah, well you need to meet Pema :)
    Eliza Madrigal: AND Storm... and many others :)
    pablito Steampunk: well, i have a feeling i'll be coming back
    Eliza Madrigal smiles, glad... okay.. let me get landmarks...
    pablito Steampunk: ok
    Eliza Madrigal: There are workshops that take place at Kira..
    pablito Steampunk: ty :)
    Eliza Madrigal: for instance today was phenomenology
    pablito Steampunk: wow
    pablito Steampunk: heavy topics
    Eliza Madrigal: An interest?
    pablito Steampunk: do i have a particular interest your asking?
    Eliza Madrigal: Sure :)
    pablito Steampunk: hmm
    Eliza Madrigal: And the note is about PaB just in case you didn't receive on
    Eliza Madrigal: One
    pablito Steampunk: cheers
    Eliza Madrigal: It has the wiki site link I hope :)
    pablito Steampunk: well, the topic that gets me most excited is the subject of exploring the expansion of consciousness
    Eliza Madrigal: Ahh :) Excellent...
    Eliza Madrigal: Say more?
    pablito Steampunk: and trying to figure out the nature of reality
    Eliza Madrigal: Very glad you've found PaB :)
    pablito Steampunk: like one such book that got me entralled was the book "The holographic Universe"
    Eliza Madrigal: Ohh, yes I know of that book...
    pablito Steampunk: by Micheal Talbot
    pablito Steampunk: it has some pretty strong arguments for us living in a holographic reality
    Eliza Madrigal: Anything you can share off hand?
    pablito Steampunk: heard of David Bohm?
    Eliza Madrigal: yes
    pablito Steampunk: well he was one of the main proponent s for this holographic idea
    pablito Steampunk: the other was a brain scientist
    pablito Steampunk: Karl Pribram
    Eliza Madrigal: Does the book discuss the imagery of Indra's Net?
    pablito Steampunk: indra as in the indian goddess?
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah, well I thought the king...
    pablito Steampunk: indra was a king
    pablito Steampunk: ?
    Eliza Madrigal: maybe I'm awry on that... the concept itself is fascinating though....
    pablito Steampunk: you could be right
    Eliza Madrigal: god.. rather than king...
    Eliza Madrigal: but in some stories they say King Indra
    pablito Steampunk: probably a god :)
    pablito Steampunk: lets see
    Eliza Madrigal: Here from wiki: Indra's net symbolizes a universe where infinitely repeated mutual relations exist between all members of the universe.[5] This idea is communicated in the image of the interconnectedness of the universe as seen in the net of the Vedic god Indra, whose net hangs over his palace on Mount Meru, the axis mundi of Vedic cosmology and Vedic mythology. Indra's net has a multifaceted jewel at each vertex, and each jewel is reflected in all of the other jewels:[6]
    pablito Steampunk: ah yes nice
    Eliza Madrigal: So the jewels would be holographic ... in a sense... each resonating in all
    Eliza Madrigal: and visa versa
    pablito Steampunk: yes, and its all intereconnected
    pablito Steampunk: like a net
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Do you know when the book was written? discoveries move so fast that by the time I think I understand I'm lightyears behind :)
    pablito Steampunk: have you got a contempory think that you find most interesting?
    pablito Steampunk: i think middle eighties
    pablito Steampunk: thinker*
    Eliza Madrigal: Hm... seems I am reading more ancient thinkers these days
    Eliza Madrigal: So many discoveries seem to mirror writings from thousands and thousands of years ago
    pablito Steampunk: who inspires you most who is alive now?
    Eliza Madrigal: Well, some of our pab-ers inspire me... :)
    Eliza Madrigal: haha
    pablito Steampunk: lol
    Eliza Madrigal: I know that's not what you're asking... let me think...
    Eliza Madrigal: think think, think think...
    pablito Steampunk: lol
    Eliza Madrigal: I have Michio Kaku on my facebook page... does that count?
    Eliza Madrigal giggles
    pablito Steampunk: yes, he is still alive and kicking
    Eliza Madrigal: and accessible
    pablito Steampunk: and yes, he is a great theoretical
    pablito Steampunk: physicist
    pablito Steampunk: we could do with Machio popping into Play as being Sim
    Eliza Madrigal: Honestly though, I find myself interested more in reading sutras these days... and things like the song of enlightenment, etc...
    Eliza Madrigal: Well, we have Pema :)
    Eliza Madrigal: He has a session tomorrow night... 7PM...
    pablito Steampunk: these ppl seem like your most inspirational entites on sl
    Eliza Madrigal: you may enjoy talking to him
    pablito Steampunk: yes
    pablito Steampunk: i'll pop in
    Eliza Madrigal: I must say... SL is a wormhole of sorts
    pablito Steampunk: does he send out group notices
    Eliza Madrigal: or can be...
    Eliza Madrigal: No... just guardians like the rest of us.
    Eliza Madrigal: We volunteer for times, generally
    Eliza Madrigal: but Pema began PaB....
    Eliza Madrigal: it is his vision...
    Eliza Madrigal: and is based on writings of Steven Tainer who inspired him years ago...
    Eliza Madrigal: (Stim Morane in SL)
    pablito Steampunk: oh interesting
    Eliza Madrigal: It really is...
    Eliza Madrigal: and aside from that, Pema is an astronomer so seems someone you'd enjoy talking to
    pablito Steampunk: yes
    pablito Steampunk: he sounds a man of much wisdom
    Eliza Madrigal: I like to think that's what we're working on here...
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: He doesn't run over the bells though...
    Eliza Madrigal giggles
    pablito Steampunk: do you attend the buddha centre stilll?
    Eliza Madrigal: I attend Lama Lodro's teachings, but I don't hold sittings
    Eliza Madrigal: I hold sittings at Zen Retreat many evenings though
    pablito Steampunk: oh
    pablito Steampunk: who owns that plot?
    Eliza Madrigal: I might tonight in fact, because I see that Martie's had two today and must be tired :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Right now Mongo McGinnis...
    pablito Steampunk: thats the name
    Eliza Madrigal: And Resting Thor owns Tara Ling...
    pablito Steampunk: are you friends with Caspain Inglewood?
    Eliza Madrigal: he's on my list... don't know him very well though
    Eliza Madrigal: I held one sitting at Kannonji for a while
    pablito Steampunk: these robes i'm wearing, he gave me
    pablito Steampunk: yes, nice place for a sitting
    Eliza Madrigal: :) Nice... I love wearing these...
    Eliza Madrigal: Have you met Isen?
    pablito Steampunk: i managed to have a koan interviiew witha real zen master because of Caspain
    Eliza Madrigal: Here in SL?
    pablito Steampunk: isen enzo
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    pablito Steampunk: yes
    pablito Steampunk: he was the guy who first introduced me to the talks
    pablito Steampunk: when i first came on here
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah, that's terrific
    pablito Steampunk: i stumbled on the zen retreat
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    pablito Steampunk: and met him there
    Eliza Madrigal: You are like me... I was here in SL and quickly found wonderful resources
    pablito Steampunk: and we chatted about the history of Zen
    Eliza Madrigal: Is that your main discipline/focus?
    pablito Steampunk: it seems to be, but not consciously haha
    Eliza Madrigal: :))
    pablito Steampunk: but you could say it was zen that brought me places like these
    pablito Steampunk: i like zen
    pablito Steampunk: because it is so simple
    Eliza Madrigal: think so?
    pablito Steampunk: にゃ~ん♪♪
    pablito Steampunk: well as a practice no
    Eliza Madrigal: I agree... but yes... was hoping you'd say more...
    pablito Steampunk: but to read, simply amazing
    pablito Steampunk: i was turned on to eastern philosophy due to Alan watts
    Eliza Madrigal: I have to say, aside from various texts online, the only zen book I read regularly is Zen Mind Beginners Mind
    pablito Steampunk: i've listened and enjoyed many of his lectures
    Eliza Madrigal: I've not read much by him... think I have a book on nothingness... but hm.. might not have read it!
    pablito Steampunk: habe you seen him on youtube?
    Eliza Madrigal: No.. I guess I should :)
    Eliza Madrigal: You know... thinking about ZMBM... there is this reference to breathing as the swinging door...
    pablito Steampunk: here is a taster
    pablito Steampunk: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x9r...ghtenment_news
    Eliza Madrigal: and that is very Tao
    Eliza Madrigal: okay... looking...
    pablito Steampunk: i'll watch at teh same time as you
    Eliza Madrigal: Oh... yes I have heard him... haha.. know his voice more!
    pablito Steampunk: i love his style
    Eliza Madrigal: he makes me think of beat poets... not much of a muchness
    pablito Steampunk: haha
    pablito Steampunk: jack Kerouac
    pablito Steampunk: or Neal Cassidy
    Eliza Madrigal: yes... but yes he does rather cut through layers of 'little me'
    pablito Steampunk: is that good?
    Eliza Madrigal: yes I think so
    pablito Steampunk: i think so too :)
    pablito Steampunk: he can be quite emotionally charged in some of his talks
    pablito Steampunk: a true passion for life and meaning
    Eliza Madrigal: that we often think of ourselves as little needy, disconnected selves... but like he just said "there's nothing left to do"... Hm.. back to where we were again :)
    pablito Steampunk: yes :)
    pablito Steampunk: thats our biggest delusion
    pablito Steampunk: to think we are separate
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    pablito Steampunk: still enjoying Alan watts :)
    Eliza Madrigal: yes me too :)
    pablito Steampunk: :)))
    pablito Steampunk: i like his laugh
    Eliza Madrigal: Well, he does amuse himself :)
    pablito Steampunk: thats what is signifies
    pablito Steampunk: what an inspiration
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah, so you like his playfulness :)
    pablito Steampunk: yes
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: I want to give you a link to a recent session on one of my favorite topics here... since you're coming back especially... YS_BS_and_ES
    pablito Steampunk: when i'm in a playfull mood i feel so goood
    Eliza Madrigal smiles
    Eliza Madrigal: It was wonderful to meet and talk with you for this surprise session... have to make and send notes for Zen Retreat now...
    Eliza Madrigal: Oh, wait... martie is sending...
    Eliza Madrigal: hah... let me IM her and see
    pablito Steampunk: Play as Being!!
    pablito Steampunk: lol
    Eliza Madrigal: YES!!!!
    pablito Steampunk: Alan Watts would suit this sim
    Eliza Madrigal: :) Thank you for sharing the video... really nice
    pablito Steampunk: no, ty
    pablito Steampunk: its such a delight for me to see someone enjoying the works of Alan watts
    Eliza Madrigal: Okay.... looks like I will be holding the sitting... you're welcome to join of course, but I imagine you're tired...
    pablito Steampunk: i get a sense of deep connection
    pablito Steampunk: yes
    pablito Steampunk: i'm a bit tired
    pablito Steampunk: but we must talk again
    Eliza Madrigal: :) Night pablito, I'm sure we will!
    Eliza Madrigal: Bye for now :)
    pablito Steampunk: goodnight
    pablito Steampunk: :)

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