2009.12.13 01:00 - Human time, clock time

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    Susi Alcott: _/!\_ Qt

    Qt Core: Hi Susi


    Qt Core: hi moon, stargate

    Moon Fargis: good morning QT

    Susi Alcott: _/!\_ Stargate and Moon

    Stargate Tone: Hello Qt, Moon and Susi *

    Qt Core: may i ask what is the origin and meaning of the "_/!\_" to me it seem like a exclamation point made prisoner ;-)

    Moon Fargis: :)

    Moon Fargis: _/!\_

    Stargate Tone: ah wow

    Stargate Tone: wooooooooow

    Stargate Tone: that's interesting

    Stargate Tone: as it is to free x-tra energies into the nauture for anybody willing to use

    Stargate Tone: when you folder your hands the buddhist way

    Moon Fargis: yes his namaste, gasso

    Moon Fargis: its

    Moon Fargis: oh not wake atm *Yaaawwns*

    Susi Alcott: _/!\_

    Qt Core: ook, last thing i could imagine it to be, but plausible when one know ;-)

    Stargate Tone: _/!\_

    Stargate Tone: _/|\_

    Stargate Tone: so; look my AV now

    Stargate Tone: _/|\_

    Stargate Tone: _/|\_

    Stargate Tone: I just got this 'my way' function , so have not yet learned to use it

    Stargate Tone: and as some sit's takes the function away

    Stargate Tone: Cal created a bit different than what there has been

    Stargate Tone: the more buddhist way; to bend oneself too

    Stargate Tone: (the sign I wanted to learn to make with the keyboard immediately I saw it in SL the first time myself )

    Qt Core: i like the basic emoticons and i'm grateful to sl about not making them graphical

    Moon Fargis: ã‹¡

    Stargate Tone: hm...graphical is to do with the keyboard ?

    Qt Core: (don't even know how to make them that way)

    Moon Fargis: ahno means that sl replaces a :) with a picture

    Moon Fargis: qt: dunno either but copy and pasted it :)

    Qt Core: yes, i like just plain :-)

    Moon Fargis: =◕‿‿◕=

    Stargate Tone: _/|\_

    Qt Core: maybe i'm a little too old school

    Stargate Tone: (found her translator now)

    Stargate Tone: well...much I've learned from young people of these we call here in Finland as 'hyymiö' :)***

    Qt Core: the drooling emoticon ?

    Stargate Tone: drooling

    Stargate Tone: think I understand, so I say 'yes'

    Qt Core: have you noticed how a strange animal the smile that moon drawn before with the namaste symbols create ? (check it in the local chat window)


    Stargate Tone: ah yes; noticed that

    Moon Fargis: *mews*

    Stargate Tone: =^.^=

    Zon Quar: hi

    Moon Fargis: greetings zon

    Stargate Tone: ^j^ ^j^ ^j^ ^j^ ^j^ = 5 angels

    Stargate Tone: Hello Zon

    Qt Core: hi zon

    Susi Alcott: _/!\_ Zon

    Susi Alcott: _/!\_

    Moon Fargis: wanna ahave a seat zon ?

    Zon Quar: as soon as i rezz

    Stargate Tone: _/!\_

    Moon Fargis: *slurps his tea*

    Zon Quar: well, ty

    Zon Quar: very fine tea

    Stargate Tone: ty *

    Stargate Tone: ah yessssss *

    Moon Fargis: hmm i thik its cold enought already outside:)

    Stargate Tone: we have that nice view here in Finland now; the pure snow

    Qt Core: in last year i started liking cold tea, i found the only bottled brand i like... and it is even the less sugared drink i've ever found (beside water)

    Stargate Tone: light like the powder

    Stargate Tone: ahh; called as 'ice tea' ?

    Moon Fargis: so far thats the only thing i could catch from winter in germany: http://picasaweb.google.com/Sylvio.K...40859677325746

    Qt Core: (too lazy to make my own at home) ;-)

    Stargate Tone: lol

    Qt Core: no snow here yet but on nearby mountains yes

    Stargate Tone: woooow

    stevenaia Michinaga: :)

    Stargate Tone: hello steve * long time no see

    Qt Core: hi stevenaia

    Moon Fargis: ahi hi steve!

    stevenaia Michinaga: hello, yes indeed

    Zon Quar: hi steve

    stevenaia Michinaga: my internal clock has shifted for the eveing

    Moon Fargis: somehow the snow got more

    Moon Fargis: someone wearing a snow emitter?

    Stargate Tone: hearts

    Zon Quar: emitter ?

    Moon Fargis: yes who emmits sow

    Moon Fargis: but might it be this in the sky go crazy

    Qt Core: it is the pavillion itself

    Moon Fargis: yes

    Moon Fargis: but never saw them so much

    Qt Core: if i remember the ice ring in the fountain can control it orsomething like that

    stevenaia Michinaga: I think this is Storm's doing

    Qt Core: it increased durring the week

    Zon Quar: very green here still

    stevenaia Michinaga: yes, nice change from what I ahve beeen used to here

    Stargate Tone: so it's like it's in Germany *

    Moon Fargis: no green anymore here :)

    Stargate Tone: ohhh


    Moon Fargis: except the moss on the trees :)

    Stargate Tone: _/|\_

    stevenaia Michinaga: it is 4:30 am here and spouse and I can;t sleep, she reads, I type

    Moon Fargis: so only thing thats missing now are some deers jumping around

    stevenaia Michinaga: I was having strange dreams of converstaions about nepotism with some older gentleman while walking

    Stargate Tone: nepotism

    Qt Core: ok, better being awake then ;-)

    Stargate Tone: can this nepotism be said some other way ?

    stevenaia Michinaga: the hiring of relatives for jobs

    stevenaia Michinaga: and the ethical dilemmas that poses

    stevenaia Michinaga: not my usual dream, we were walking around a neighborhood having this strange cnversation

    stevenaia Michinaga: *conversation

    Stargate Tone: well...that man was you self...

    stevenaia Michinaga: yes, ofcourse

    stevenaia Michinaga: he gave good advice

    Stargate Tone: your subconsiousness 'asks' you to notice something 'around' what comes to these questions

    Stargate Tone: _/!\_

    stevenaia Michinaga: strange in that I am in no situation of hiring or being hired as someone's realive, which means, ofcourse, that it must relate to something else

    stevenaia Michinaga: *relative

    Qt Core: damn dreams, can't they go straight to the point ? ;-)

    stevenaia Michinaga: or nothing at all

    Stargate Tone: well; U'r much involved with many people on the spiritual level

    Stargate Tone: well...what would me the most gentle adwiser to ourself but we self ?

    Stargate Tone: when our earthly mind has not 'got it' but our 'heart' knows


    Zon Quar: sry must leave, namaste

    stevenaia Michinaga: do the grasses and trees leave with you Moon?

    Stargate Tone: well...sure also the 'job' to which we each one hire people is ourself; who we let effect to our life...

    Qt Core: :-) i was just thinking an idealized self with no heart/emotion (but knowing about them)

    Moon Fargis: yes steve :)

    Stargate Tone: well; there was this message which this Hunbatz Men opened with many people around the world;

    stevenaia Michinaga: "Hunbatz Men '?

    Stargate Tone: the message was from the being that had not 'heart' but had huge strong emotions

    Stargate Tone: Hunbatz Men is the Mayan Iza; the nowadays highest boss of Mayan Tradition in Mexico

    stevenaia Michinaga: http://www.cosmicmysteries.com/faq.php

    stevenaia Michinaga: thxs

    Stargate Tone: as he had take a photo, and there had this red beam appeared even it was not to be seen with eyes

    Stargate Tone: this conciousness wanted to share his happiness and grace of such beings been created than human beings are

    Stargate Tone: this was 'few' years ago

    Stargate Tone: so...to star it's to live is to have motions, but sure there's also such kind of life forms that star donno

    Stargate Tone: btw; based on the Mayan calendar, we are living 'the night' cycle...think that at nights them motions are the most strongest if one is awake

    Moon Fargis: hmm might we enlight a candle then to bring light in night

    Qt Core: and sometimes strong enough to not make you sleep as stevanaia and his wife now

    Stargate Tone: _/|\_

    Stargate Tone: indeed Qt

    stevenaia Michinaga: that or the coffee we had with dinner... I make strong coffee

    stevenaia Michinaga: and that lead me here

    Stargate Tone: unusual strong ?

    Moon Fargis: coffee to diner?

    Moon Fargis: eew

    stevenaia Michinaga: no but I normally don;t drink it that late, we had some very old friends over for dinner

    Stargate Tone: _/|\_

    Moon Fargis: ahyes next time maybe a glass of wine does t

    Moon Fargis: it

    stevenaia Michinaga: we had that too, and scotch :)

    Moon Fargis: ah

    Moon Fargis: irish coffee

    stevenaia Michinaga: no not together


    Moon Fargis: (hi nymf)

    Nymf Hathaway: (whispers Hello all :)

    stevenaia Michinaga: hello Nymf

    Stargate Tone: Hello Nymf

    Moon Fargis: binng

    Qt Core: hi nymf

    Nymf Hathaway: Sorry to have popped in so late :(

    Stargate Tone: late ?

    Moon Fargis: sleeped well ?:)

    Nymf Hathaway: Smiles, yes... we have a hospital at home... everyone the flu..so I needed more sleep :(

    Moon Fargis: oha

    Nymf Hathaway: What is the topic?

    Moon Fargis: babbling around :)

    stevenaia Michinaga: it is the middle of the night for me and I brought my dreams here

    stevenaia Michinaga: where are you , Nymf?

    Nymf Hathaway: Nice Stevenaia :)

    Nymf Hathaway: Netherlands

    Nymf Hathaway: Morning here

    Moon Fargis looks at the time and nods :)

    stevenaia Michinaga: well moring here too (5:00 am)

    Moon Fargis: 11:04

    Qt Core: same here (11)

    Stargate Tone: (12 am here)

    Stargate Tone: ah so sry; PM

    Moon Fargis: ^^

    Stargate Tone: so; morning to me

    Moon Fargis: i never get used to that so keep the 24h system

    Nymf Hathaway: Same here Moon

    Qt Core: and here

    Moon Fargis: <- reballs against the 2x12h system

    Nymf Hathaway: Yes... I think the 24 is way more clear

    Stargate Tone: =^.^=

    Qt Core: and you even have to type two more characters (again lazy me speaking)

    Stargate Tone: so U all are born after 1950 :)***

    stevenaia Michinaga: we can't count that high in this hemisphere

    Nymf Hathaway: hahhaha Qt

    stevenaia Michinaga: (24)

    Moon Fargis: i could always go insane when people speak thetime like "5 after quater of 7"

    Stargate Tone: rofl

    Qt Core: sometimes i find myself only telling the minutes to people asking the time, i suppose one has an idea of the hour

    Qt Core: so "what time is it"... "42"

    Moon Fargis: lol

    Stargate Tone: well; there was this psychiatrist that had noticed that ppl born before 1950 uses the 2x12 and after it born ones the 24 'system'; she wondered why that is so

    Moon Fargis: lazy :)

    Moon Fargis: i would guess becasue of the war

    Nymf Hathaway: I skipp the hours and wish them a friendly afternoon, morning or evening :)

    stevenaia Michinaga: when I drove a bus all time was 24 hrs

    Qt Core: then some other time i use starfleet format 2009.1213.1109

    Moon Fargis: whee

    stevenaia Michinaga: it sorts nicer that way

    Moon Fargis: whats that in galactical time?"

    Qt Core: yes, love the japan date format 2009/12/13 just for that

    Stargate Tone: wondered sometimes that how ppl in different cultures uses them other calendars....

    Qt Core: i spent several hours reading about the trek date formats... they spent so much time trying to give some semse to numbers mostly picked up randomly

    stevenaia Michinaga: there are many calendars in the world still

    Stargate Tone: yes; that's why I've wondred

    stevenaia Michinaga: but for each a day is a day

    Nymf Hathaway: Yes and as much as I like variety Stevenaia... I wonder if we ever go over to a universal format

    Stargate Tone: =^.^=

    Qt Core: i have an interest in learning (but havcen;t found time/books yet) about the different lengths of weeks in different cultures

    Stargate Tone: well; star has spent tens of years having the 'day' to be at other people's night....

    Qt Core: but there are differences in when a day start

    stevenaia Michinaga: not sure that worldly harmony could serve all cultures, except to diminish aspects of some

    Qt Core: dawn or sunset


    Stargate Tone: ah yes; and sure 'star's day' is the day to them ppl on the opposite on the planet

    Stargate Tone: also them long days here without night at all and then in the winter the opposite helps to 'mix the time'

    Nymf Hathaway: How is that for your biological clock Star?

    Stargate Tone: well...not much related to 'human time'

    Stargate Tone: but when very urgent, I'm 'alerted' to notice 'the human time'

    Stargate Tone: well...whole my life I've used to ask 'what does the human clock show time to be'

    Nymf Hathaway: yes seems a completely different way of experiencing time

    Stargate Tone: _/|\_

    Moon Fargis: well time is relative

    Stargate Tone: indeed

    Moon Fargis: humans play pray and play with it as they like

    Moon Fargis: -play

    Stargate Tone: ah yes; and still many people do believe that the time is the 'ruler', even 'in stars world' that is that people do create the time

    Nymf Hathaway: Well for me in the netherlands goes... seasons and indeed hours of the sun tell you which part of the day it is (I can see it by the way the sun stands for example).... but I wonder how such is when you live where Star is

    Stargate Tone: well; most of them ppl in Finland do follow the clock with there mind, but sure noone can stop completely the effect of sun to be 'around' or not

    Stargate Tone: but as human being has 'it's' own 'time'; not tight to earth or sun or space...

    Nymf Hathaway: I agree on that Star... but living in reality (kids need to go to school in time etc etc) we cannot always escape such :(

    Moon Fargis: sure not

    Stargate Tone: ah yes; there's some suffering for that

    Moon Fargis: its just the question if you will let time rule over you

    Stargate Tone: but late years it's been more and more so, that ppl are awake late to the night also in the winter, and have probs to follow the time of society more and more by time

    Moon Fargis: many people see days..back then 200 years ago more peacefull

    Moon Fargis: not becasue there was not so much inventions

    Stargate Tone: and that all is for the connections by i-net around the word

    Moon Fargis: but becasue not everyone had a clock

    Moon Fargis: they went up when sund rised and went down as it falls

    Stargate Tone: agree with Moon 130 %

    Nymf Hathaway: yes... that seems the most natural to me Moon

    Qt Core: and tv prime time shows go later and later every years

    Qt Core: they start around 21:15 21:30 now here

    Stargate Tone: and them restaurants to be open more late

    Nymf Hathaway: we have one starting at 23.00 pfff

    Moon Fargis: <- switches his tv mayb 1-2 times on at a week

    Stargate Tone: (dont see TV at all, but the item)

    Qt Core: they shofted by an hour in just a 2 or three years

    Stargate Tone: ah and in Finland it happened looooooong time ago, that many jobs has the 'sliding time' that people may chooce when to start there working day

    Nymf Hathaway: are we on our way to become a 24 hours planet of activity? Sunday shoppings.... for example

    Nymf Hathaway: Sounds like a good solution for living "natural"Star

    Stargate Tone: ah; that sunday shopping has been the reason for huge fights here in Finland

    Moon Fargis: hehe so far its forbidden in germany to have shops open at sunday

    Nymf Hathaway: Good Moon... I come live in Germany :)

    Moon Fargis: :)

    Stargate Tone: in Finland they are open on summertime and x-mas time

    Qt Core: forbiodden for all sundays, admitted for some dundays and for shops in turist areas here in italy


    Qt Core: bigger shops started being open all sundays for christmas a couple weeks ago

    Stargate Tone: aha

    Moon Fargis: (brb nature calls)

    Stargate Tone: (star would like shops to be open also on sundays always)

    stevenaia Michinaga: I think it's time to cuddle with wife before the sun rises... night all

    Stargate Tone: give a kiss too :)***

    Qt Core: bye steve, have fun

    Nymf Hathaway: Have a good cuddle Steve :)

    Stargate Tone: was wonderfull to see you *

    Qt Core: if only shops have enough personall to do nice shift and just don't overworl (and stress) them it would be nice

    Qt Core: but that would be the end (as if they really have a future) for little family owned shops

    Nymf Hathaway: yes Qt

    Stargate Tone: well; the main prob is our law that sunday work is at least 'double hour' concerning the payment

    Nymf Hathaway: we see them leave here in teams :( only to have supermarkets

    Stargate Tone: and most of the people wants to have free sundays

    Stargate Tone: but some people likes to work less and get the 'same' payment, and dont care of the calendar

    Qt Core: double pay wopuld be needed on YOUR rest day, not necessarly sundays, muslims would like to work sundays and rest on fridays i suppose for example

    Stargate Tone: ah yes; like they do in there 'own' countries; the sunday is the working day

    Qt Core: we will have some pb on saturdays then as jews, muslims and catholic have it a (semi) festive ;-)

    Stargate Tone: _/|\_

    Qt Core: time to go cook something, bye all

    Nymf Hathaway: Have a nice day Qt :)

    Qt Core: you all too, ciao!

    Stargate Tone: _/|\_

    Moon Fargis purrrrrrsssssssss

    Moon Fargis: well in germany theres bavaria wich is higly christ driven

    Stargate Tone: ^j^ ^j^ ^j^ and the faun :)****

    Moon Fargis: so they wont agree with working on sundays

    Stargate Tone: *

    Stargate Tone: thought that the most common reason to have sunday as the free day is based on the bible; the new testament

    Nymf Hathaway: some already work on sunday...police, hospital people etc

    Moon Fargis: sure ofcourse

    Moon Fargis: those are needed instances

    Nymf Hathaway: yes

    Stargate Tone: as well the fire department

    Nymf Hathaway: I hope they get payed double

    Nymf Hathaway: because we would like them to be active on sunday

    Stargate Tone: at least in Finland that happenes

    Stargate Tone: as well them saturday hours are with higher payment, but depending more of is one has done them base hours during the week

    Stargate Tone: only sunday has this double if not, but the triple if them hours are done

    Nymf Hathaway: yes... same here Star

    Stargate Tone: and it's overtime working

    Stargate Tone: *

    Moon Fargis: *enligths a insence cone

    Nymf Hathaway: Are you two watching the falling stars this coming night?

    Moon Fargis: ah doubt they will be seen here

    Stargate Tone: it's cloudy here

    Moon Fargis: all couldy

    Nymf Hathaway: yes... my rl partner just tells me the same...clouds :(

    Stargate Tone: is there some special even this night ?

    Stargate Tone: +t

    Nymf Hathaway: yes at this time of year the geminides pass the earth, if I am correct...always loads of stars falling


    Stargate Tone: _/|\_

    Stargate Tone: so there's special reason to wish that it wouldn't be cloudy *

    Nymf Hathaway: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geminids

    Nymf Hathaway: I had a beautiful experience during the Geminids of 1991

    Nymf Hathaway: I was pregnant with a daughter and standing outside to watch the geminids

    Nymf Hathaway: My sister was standing next to me and my husband (now an ex) was standing next to her

    Nymf Hathaway: out of the sky a tiny light came... fast... it went through my body (for just a sec... I felt completely happy and at peace) than it left me... went into my sister.... whom experienced exactly the same and after her it went up into the sky again

    Nymf Hathaway: I know it sounds...way out there but its just true :)

    Stargate Tone: oh dear; not at all bad sound *

    Stargate Tone: not at all

    Nymf Hathaway: It didn't feel bad at all... it gave an unearthly feeling of peace

    Stargate Tone: meaning that I understand perfectly *

    Nymf Hathaway: Smiles

    Stargate Tone: btw...

    Nymf Hathaway: every geminid visit I think of it

    Nymf Hathaway: btw... please go on

    Stargate Tone: got very wonderfull photo from my friend...it's to be seen on our land Promised land

    Nymf Hathaway: Can I have a landmark?

    Stargate Tone: a sec

    Stargate Tone: the land is open, but more private

    Nymf Hathaway: Thank you :) I will have a look :)

    Stargate Tone: Ur welcome *

    Stargate Tone: ah and pls; dont share the LM

    Nymf Hathaway: I will not :)

    Moon Fargis: (sotrry busy atm with rl )

    Nymf Hathaway: No prob Moon

    Stargate Tone: it was in my mind to ask you, if you know the saying that when one sees the falling star, one may make a wish...

    Nymf Hathaway: yes thats comon I thin

    Nymf Hathaway: think

    Stargate Tone: have you wished seing the falling star ?

    Nymf Hathaway: but in this meteor shower... you wouldn't be able to do all the wishes :) there are tons falling :)

    Stargate Tone: lol

    Nymf Hathaway: No not yet... and I will, you are right :)

    Stargate Tone: there's much sayings of to wish

    Stargate Tone: but this saying has had always the sweet mystery feeling in my heart, but only once I've dared to wish, and even then something that I almost 'knew' to come true


    Stargate Tone: like it would be to 'brake' the sweet illusion if I'de wish something I dont have any idea if it could come true

    Nymf Hathaway: I understand

    Nymf Hathaway: But I am willing to try... always wondered what we experienced

    Stargate Tone: I'm happy to hear *

    Stargate Tone: well...as I know that our thoughts are read if we want that

    Nymf Hathaway: I agree on that

    Stargate Tone: and I have once in my life made such wish that came true in a way very miraculous way, yet; by very normal events

    Moon Fargis: sorry my friends seems rl calls me too long:) need to set me busy

    Stargate Tone: *

    Nymf Hathaway: oke Moon :(

    Nymf Hathaway: Life can do that :)

    Stargate Tone: btw; when my daughter in law was bregnant and we were 'receiving' the new year looking at the fireworks

    Stargate Tone: I took photos

    Stargate Tone: in one of them it was to be seen how the spirit of the coming daughter entered her developing body

    Nymf Hathaway: oooh nice Star

    Stargate Tone: _/|\_

    Stargate Tone: (got them spirits now and then onto my photos whole my life)

    Stargate Tone: (many people think that such photos are possible only with nowadays digi cameras, but it has nothing to do with that)

    Nymf Hathaway: I agree... it was already known before digital

    Nymf Hathaway: I like this morning tea with Moon :)

    Nymf Hathaway: Its a nice start of the sunday

    Stargate Tone: _/|\_

    Stargate Tone: Lotus is also such plant, which been the 'life savier' looooooooong time in history

    Nymf Hathaway: I was just about to say I like the recording Lotus :))

    Stargate Tone: _/|\_

    Stargate Tone: there's also this 'flower of life' as the symbol in certain culture; ppl draw it and colour it the different ways and gets help of the 'colour treatment' better looking at that painting

    Nymf Hathaway: Sorry to say Star... but rl needs me :( as said a hospital in here :(

    Stargate Tone: that flower is the wide opened lotur flower looked from up

    Stargate Tone: oh pls no sry

    Stargate Tone: was wonderfull to meet you again

    Nymf Hathaway: Could you Im me that please I will receive it by email

    Nymf Hathaway: Same here :)

    Stargate Tone: ah; told what I was to tell :)

    Nymf Hathaway: Oke :)

    Nymf Hathaway: Have a beautiful afternoon :)

    Stargate Tone: take good care *

    Stargate Tone: _/|\_

    Moon Fargis: re

    Moon Fargis purrrrrrsssssssss

    Moon Fargis: ah all gone ^^

    Stargate Tone: *******************

    Moon Fargis: thanks for the bambi :)

    Stargate Tone: _/|\_

    Moon Fargis: ill give you a tp then :)

    Stargate Tone: *

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