2010.01.10 07:00 - Watch Out for that Chiropractor Following You

The Guardian for this meeting was Adams Rubble. The comments are by Adams Rubble.

Adams Rubble: Hello Geoff
Adams Rubble: Hello Eliza
Geoff Baily: Hello adams
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Adams :)
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Geoff :)
Adams Rubble: Nice to meet you Geoff. Congratulations on becoiming a guardian
Geoff Baily: Hello Eliza!
Eliza Madrigal: Morning :) brb (getting coffee-- brrr)
Geoff Baily: Thanks Adams, so pleased to be here with you
Adams Rubble: Good morning Sharon
Geoff Baily: Hello Sharon
Adams Rubble: Is there anything nyone would would like to talk about this morning
Eliza Madrigal: Morning Sharon! :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
Adams Rubble: I noticed this week that you talked about change

Eliza Madrigal: yes, quite a bit it seems
SophiaSharon Larnia: it is nice morning, unny took a reallly long walk this morning
SophiaSharon Larnia: (and was logged in to sl, oops!)
Adams Rubble: Yes, sunny here too. We had a nice walk eysterday
Adams Rubble: yesterday
Eliza Madrigal: Here in Florida, it is flurry-ing...
SophiaSharon Larnia: ?? wow
Eliza Madrigal: That hasn't happened since I was 7!
Geoff Baily: Ah they said it would Eliza!!
Eliza Madrigal: Strange weather, but well... interesting :)
Geoff Baily: no snowmen yet tho'
Eliza Madrigal: hahah
SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
Eliza Madrigal: When we went to Sanibel at Thanksgiving, someone made a sand-man... scarf and carrot and everything
Geoff Baily: no snowpeople!!!!
Adams Rubble: :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: haha nice
Adams Rubble: good for sleeping
Geoff Baily: ;)
Eliza Madrigal: Hah, It was brilliant :)
Eliza Madrigal thinks of change and the sands of time
Geoff Baily: Sanibel??
Eliza Madrigal: Yes, little island off Florida... beautiful place
Geoff Baily: ah nice......
Geoff Baily: palm trees?
SophiaSharon Larnia: my habit in life has been to think something over to the point where it makes no sense, like how repeating a word over and over it just becomes syllables
SophiaSharon Larnia: i dont want to do it any more :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: let that go lol
Eliza Madrigal smiles
Adams Rubble: It is nice how pain can lift off our shoulders letting something go
Geoff Baily: True Adams
Eliza Madrigal: lift off and fly away perhaps
SophiaSharon Larnia: for now, just not exploring how i feel, not constantly taking stock
SophiaSharon Larnia: its obsessive really, how some of us do that
Eliza Madrigal nods
Eliza Madrigal: yes I'm rather tired of myself too...
--BELL--
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Geoff Baily: just how some are made
Bertram Jacobus: hi everybody :-)
Adams Rubble: Hello Bertram
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Bert
Geoff Baily: Hi Bertram
Bertram Jacobus: oh. sry. disturbed the pause ...
SophiaSharon Larnia: HI Bertram :)
Adams Rubble: I find it helpful to look at myself from different directions which might be looking at how I am looking at myself
SophiaSharon Larnia: maybe some are made that way, or maybe learned through childhood, a some benefit gained in the past by reacting a certian way
Eliza Madrigal: yes some of us seem to require more tools than others... to set things out and see.. writing, for instance
Geoff Baily: nature vs nurture?
SophiaSharon Larnia: yes but maybe some with a more jumpy nervous sysyem :)
Adams Rubble: It is useful to re-examine the tools we are using to see
SophiaSharon Larnia: system*
Eliza Madrigal: :))
Eliza Madrigal: True, Adams
Geoff Baily: absolutely true Sophia
Eliza Madrigal: Or the proportions we are using, in using the tools... I used to blog and write quite a bit, for instance... doesn't seem too helful right now but I keep going
Adams Rubble: I find writing very important
SophiaSharon Larnia: thats just now, Eliza, maybe it wont stay that way
Adams Rubble: It helps me to discipline my thinking
Eliza Madrigal: sometimes I look back to see that what I write when I don't 'feel' it was useful, was actually more clear
Adams Rubble: I rarely read what I have written (giggles)
SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
Eliza Madrigal: That seems a tool in itself! :)
Geoff Baily: don't think the method matters too much, its the curiousity and continual questioning that maters
Eliza Madrigal: hmmm, yes Geoff
Geoff Baily: and discipline yes that too
SophiaSharon Larnia: I stopped writing because I was telling myself the truth in it, things i didnt know until I started writing, and then I started to lie to myself, because i didnt like what i was seeing
Adams Rubble: we need to change or hone our methods as we go along
Eliza Madrigal: wow.. that's something to see, Sharon
SophiaSharon Larnia: yes lies lies lies
Adams Rubble: yes,agree with Eliza
Geoff Baily: always changing, eh Eliza??
Adams Rubble: I had an intersting experience this morning
Eliza Madrigal: Well, maybe not lies but ways in which we fool ourselves maybe :)
Eliza Madrigal: Yes Geoff... change is the life :)
Adams Rubble: without going into detail I started into a waking dream this morning
Geoff Baily: ;)
SophiaSharon Larnia: yep, read between the lines
Adams Rubble: I was in danger but I started to play
SophiaSharon Larnia: oh Adams?
Adams Rubble: my mind immediately closed down the dream
Adams Rubble: I still don't know what that was telling me
SophiaSharon Larnia: its a scary experience
Adams Rubble: but it is new...that never happened to me before
Adams Rubble: no, not scary, but I felt my mind pull back from it quickly

What was new for me was that my unconscious started to explore or clarify something extremely important to me and as soon as I recognized the importance and waited for more, it just as quickly backed off and took it away. My dreams usually play out in detail.

SophiaSharon Larnia: Hi Tinkerbell
Eliza Madrigal: the waking dream, or your changing it as you walked into it?
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Tinkerbell :)
Adams Rubble: Hello Tinkerbell
Geoff Baily: Hi Tinkerbell
Adams Rubble: are you new to PaB Tinkerbell?
Geoff Baily: welcome
Adams Rubble: Nice to meet you. Let me give you a card
Eliza Madrigal: Welcome Tinkerbell :)
Bertram Jacobus: sry crashed ;-)
Adams Rubble: wb Bertram
SophiaSharon Larnia: wb!
Geoff Baily: do you want to sit with us Tinkerbell?
Adams Rubble: Please come and join us Tuinkerbell
SophiaSharon Larnia: I went to bed yesterday and slept over 12 hours, its like something in my head broke
Tinkerbell Placebo: ok
Bertram Jacobus: hello tinkerbell :-)
Eliza Madrigal: broke through and let you rest, Sharon?
Adams Rubble: We record our conversations and they are posted on our wiki. Is that OK with you Tinkerbell?
Tinkerbell Placebo: ty, hello everyone
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Geoff Baily: hi
SophiaSharon Larnia: sounds nice and flowery that way but i think just too tired and tired of being tired, is all
Eliza Madrigal nods...
SophiaSharon Larnia: so feel better! smiles
Adams Rubble: :)
Geoff Baily: busy in RL Sophia?
--BELL--
SophiaSharon Larnia: not any more than usual, just life stuff :)
Bertram Jacobus: can be much ...
Geoff Baily: yes ;)
Adams Rubble: Sometimes tiredness can be seasonal
SophiaSharon Larnia: nods
Adams Rubble: Winter can be taxing
Adams Rubble: on the body
Eliza Madrigal: I went into the New Year determined to rearrange my schedule and the way I do things... and started to implement... but as soon as I would choose to drop 'B', 'A' would drop instead....
Geoff Baily: winter!!
Adams Rubble: :)
Eliza Madrigal: that's how its been going.... hehe... and now it is flurrying in Florida
SophiaSharon Larnia: I hope that worked out ok for you Eliza :)
Eliza Madrigal loves the 'idea' of groundlessness sometimes, but Oh! :)
Adams Rubble: Good morning Eos
Eliza Madrigal: Morning Eos! :)
Bertram Jacobus: hi eos :-)
SophiaSharon Larnia: Hi Eos
Geoff Baily: inpractice Eliza?
Eos Amaterasu: HI all!
Geoff Baily: Hi Eos
Tinkerbell Placebo: hello eos
Eliza Madrigal: yes Geoff, exactly. I'm happy for things to shift around but while it is going on it can be uncomfortable :)
Geoff Baily: yes true
Eliza Madrigal: like having an ajustment re chiropractor :)
Eliza Madrigal: *adjustment
Adams Rubble: :)
Eliza Madrigal: "Being as Chiropractor"
Geoff Baily: ;)
Adams Rubble: I like that analogy
Eos Amaterasu: cracking jokes
Eliza Madrigal: hahah
Geoff Baily: cracking of bones!
Eliza Madrigal is still thinking of waking dreams...
Eliza Madrigal: maybe all our tools are like dreams in that we can't get ahold of them :)
Adams Rubble: yes Eliza?
Eos Amaterasu: or the holding is also.... poofy?
Adams Rubble: we can just try to see what they are telling us
Eliza Madrigal: poofy, yes... haha... like the sand man we can build him up and see what he says... for a while...
Geoff Baily: poofy?
Eliza Madrigal: or snow man if you wish :)
Eos Amaterasu: goes poof! and disappears
Eos Amaterasu: just like our avatars here
Geoff Baily: ah .....there are other meanings too
Geoff Baily: u know
Eliza Madrigal listens
Geoff Baily: poof is slang for male homosexual in UK
Eliza Madrigal: ooh :) That's news
SophiaSharon Larnia: lol i thought you were talking about sand man
Geoff Baily: ah words yet again
SophiaSharon Larnia: grins
Eliza Madrigal: tools :)
Eos Amaterasu: it's a also a big soft pillow you can sit on
Geoff Baily: !
Eliza Madrigal: hehe
Geoff Baily: true
SophiaSharon Larnia: yes tools, like using a screwdriver to bang in a nail
Adams Rubble: :)
Eos Amaterasu: So Eliza, waking dreams?
Adams Rubble: best to gget a chiropractor
Geoff Baily: or a hammer
Eliza Madrigal: hahah
SophiaSharon Larnia: hehe
Eliza Madrigal: Eos, Adams had mentioned a waking dream or dream like experience... so I was curious
Adams Rubble: It is all my fault (gigglres)
Eliza Madrigal: I find that the lines are strange between meditation/dreams/pab/rl/sl....
Adams Rubble: Hello Doctor
Doctor Blauvelt: hi :)
Tinkerbell Placebo: hi doc, everyone this is my wife doc
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Doctor
Geoff Baily: Hi Doctor
Eliza Madrigal: Nice to meet you
Bertram Jacobus: hello doctor ;-)
Adams Rubble: nice to meet you
SophiaSharon Larnia: HI Doctor
Doctor Blauvelt: please call me 'Doc'
Bertram Jacobus: ok
Doctor Blauvelt: still rezzing :)
Adams Rubble: please come join us
Eliza Madrigal: Sure :)
--BELL--
Eos Amaterasu: HI doc, what's up?
Doctor Blauvelt: yuk yuk :)
SophiaSharon Larnia was thinking the same thing
Eliza Madrigal: :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: lately fo me, not having dreams that i remember
SophiaSharon Larnia: funny how that goes
Eliza Madrigal nods... yes I'm not having too many recently either... but the in between dreamy feeling, more so
SophiaSharon Larnia: oh nooos over the bell, sorry!!
Adams Rubble: I find the writing important to remembering my dreams
Eliza Madrigal nods, definitely
Eliza Madrigal: Maxine's dream workshop starts again this week, btw
Adams Rubble: Doc, we record our conversations here and put them on our Wiki. Is that OKK with you?
Geoff Baily: tell more Eliza?
Adams Rubble: Nice plug Eliiza...yes it is worth attending. Ruesdays at 2pm SLT
Adams Rubble: in the Kira Cafe
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Geoff Baily: thanks
Eliza Madrigal has been a regular attendee of that workshop and find that it often helps to remember dreams when we talk about them, etc
Geoff Baily: ;)
SophiaSharon Larnia: yes! it works that way
Adams Rubble: Tinkerbell, would you care to say something about the Pure Land group you founded?
Adams Rubble: Second life is so suggestive
Tinkerbell Placebo: sure, it's about 2 mon's old and things are going very well, it's a dream come true for me, and doc has helped me out so much
Geoff Baily: interested
Eos Amaterasu: "dream come true"....
Tinkerbell Placebo: not many ppl in the west know of Pure Land and i think it is needed here
Doctor Blauvelt: tink is the creator .. i just help
Eos Amaterasu: I the Pure Land a present state?
Adams Rubble: Do you have activities?
Eos Amaterasu: *Is
SophiaSharon Larnia: well Eos, is everything a present state?
Adams Rubble: :)
Tinkerbell Placebo: yes we have 3 services, buddha name recitation and the Kwan Yin Great Compassion Mantra
Eos Amaterasu: darn, but some of it keeps slipping away :-)
SophiaSharon Larnia: laughs
Eliza Madrigal smiles
Geoff Baily: ;)
SophiaSharon Larnia: interesting Tinkerbell :)
Eliza Madrigal: Sounds very nice, Tinkerbell
Eos Amaterasu: Kwan Yin, yes :-)
Tinkerbell Placebo: all are welcome of cource
Adams Rubble: Many in our group would be interested in times and places Tinkerbell
Tinkerbell Placebo: ok, i'll give some info
Eliza Madrigal: brb-still trying to wake children
Adams Rubble: :)
Eos Amaterasu: (sleepy heads!)
Bertram Jacobus: lol
SophiaSharon Larnia: agrees! but maybe a few minutes for Mom? lol
Adams Rubble: Thank you Tinkerbell. I'll put that in the log

These are the cards about the Pure Land group:

Pure Land is a form of Mahayana Buddhism. While widely practiced in Asia, its roots are only starting to form
in the West. Its historical roots extend all the way to ancient India. We generally think in terms of one Buddha,
Shakyamuni, who lived in India approx twenty five hundred years ago. But since any sentient being can become
enlightened and innumerable numbers have there are innumerable Buddhas. Shakyamuni Buddha explained that
after his enlightenment that he has not only seen his past lifetimes but that he had seen how the future would
unfold. In that future he saw that people in our time would have more afflictions, worries and wandering thoughts.

Shakyamuni knew that to end one's problems and attain lasting happiness many people would need the help of
Amitabha Buddha for he had created an ideal environment in which we could learn from and practice with the
wisest of beings. It is a land of peace, equality and joy where we can listen to the teachings of Bodhisattvas and
Amitabha Buddha. Knowing how appropriate this land would  be for us, Shakyamuni taught about Pure Land
practice.

Chanting or reciting a Buddha's name, in our case the name  of Amitabha Buddha (Amituofo in Chinese) is the
foundation of our practice. Amitabha primarily means "Buddha of Infinite Light and Infinite Life". When we chant
or recite the sound of Amitabha arises in our mind. Then our minds focus on, and embrace, that sound. The recitation
is very powerful, for as the mind concentrates on the sound of Amitabha our selfish and intolerant thoughts are replaced
with this single pure thought of the name of a Buddha. After Amitabha has been in our mind continuously for a long time
and as we improve our thoughts and actions our true nature, which is the same as that of the Buddhas, will gradually
be uncovered.

If we have made the vow to do so and have belief in the teachings of the Buddhas we will have progressed on our
path to forever have a Buddhas mind and heart of wisdom and compassion so that we can be of benefit to all beings
who wish our help. Ultimately our vows to be born into the Pure Land, our unwavering belief and our moral daily living,
as well as our chanting/recitation will enable us to attain the perfect enlightenment that is Buddhahood. And on a daily
basis we will continue to benefit as our minds become more sincere and kind.

Recitation service is held daily at 8:00a.m. and 7:00p.m. SL time

Order of Budha Recition Service

Repeat:
"Namo our teacher Shakyamuni Buddha of great loving-kindness and compassion"
(bow, or hold your palms together in front of chest if you can)

Repeat:
"Namo Amitabha Buddha of great loving-kindness and compassion"
(bow, or hold your palms together in front of chest if you can)

At this point we recite "Namo Amitabha Buddha" No need to bow but be respectful and sincere. You can either sit, kneel or stand. We will repeat this about 100 times. The sound loop is just a little guide, it is not meant to be followed if you don't want to. Set a pace you are comfortable with and just try to stay focused on the recitation. The sound loop repeats Amituofo the Chinese version of Amitabha. You may use that also or if you wish Amida Butsu (Japanese, Amida Pul (Korean). A Di Da Phat (Vietnamese) or Namo Amitabha Buddha (Sanskrit).

Repeat: "Namo Kuan Yin Bodhisattve"
(Recite and bow if you can)

Repeat:
"Namo Ta Shih Chih Bodhisattve"
(Recite and bow if you can)

Repeat:
"Namo the Great Sea of Bodhisattve's"
(Recite and bow if you can)

Repeat the vow to be reborn in the Pure Land is now recitied aloud or silently:

"I vow to adorn the Buddha's Pure Land with this merit. Repay the four great gracious kindnesses and aid those in the three paths of suffering below. May those who see and hear my vow all bring forth the Bodhi mind. And when this life is finished, be born together with other devotees, in the World of Ultimate
 Bliss. I vow to be born in the Western Paradise of Eternal Bliss, transported to the Pure Land through the lotus calyx with ease. As the lotus Blossoms I see the compassionate Buddha and samsara ceases. In the company of bodhisattvas I cultivate in joy and peace."

The service is now complete. Open discussion and questions follow. Please remember we have no teachers nor does anyone have any special authority in our group. We are all here to learn and pratice to the best of our ability. This is one of the great assets of Pure Land, all are accepted and respected at whatever level they are at and all are free to partake.

 

Wind Chimes (174, 90, 27)

http://slurl.com/secondlife/Wind Chimes/174/90/27/?&title=Pure Land Buddhist Group^D

Bertram Jacobus: poor children : not allowed to sleep, even on sundays ? ... ;-)
Tinkerbell Placebo: ty :)
Geoff Baily: thanks Tinkerbell
Tinkerbell Placebo: :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: oh yes Bertram I forgot what it was like to be a kid, sleeping until noon
Eliza Madrigal: hah Bert... dd has college apps and papers to work on with me....
Eliza Madrigal: exciting times :)
Eliza Madrigal: She will not budge, though.... grrr
Adams Rubble: :)
Bertram Jacobus: oh. i see. again : exhausting life (?) ... ;-)
Geoff Baily: ah!
Eos Amaterasu: (the Eliza tiger is prowling and grr_ing)
Eliza Madrigal smiles.. yes and will soon be stomping my paws
Eos Amaterasu wonders about a Pure Land approach to the 90 secs (coming right up)
Eliza Madrigal: hmm
Doctor Blauvelt: Adams .. as a 'Guardian' .. what is your role here?
Bertram Jacobus: i´ll leave - thx for the talk and have a nice time all ! ...
Adams Rubble: we pause here for 90 sec0ndsevery 15 bminutes
Adams Rubble: bye Bert
Eliza Madrigal: walking into a pure land dream.... everything perfect as it is
Geoff Baily: bye Bertram
Adams Rubble: My role is to greet people and post the log Doc
Bertram Jacobus: ty all again :-)
Eos Amaterasu: be-ing Kwan Yin
Eliza Madrigal waves to Bert
Doctor Blauvelt: kay
SophiaSharon Larnia: Bye Bertram!
Doctor Blauvelt: there's a url (sure i will find it - lol)
--BELL--
Adams Rubble: yes there is a good amount of information on the wiki
Adams Rubble: Nice to see you all this morning. I know many of you are about to move on
Eos Amaterasu: Thanks all!
Eliza Madrigal: Thanks Adams! Thank you everyone :) Bye for now
SophiaSharon Larnia: I'm off too, have a great day everyone!!!
Geoff Baily: Hi Adams
SophiaSharon Larnia: smiles
Adams Rubble: There is another meeting for many in our group
Tinkerbell Placebo: need to leave also, thank you, i'd like to come again :)
Doctor Blauvelt: thabj you adams
Doctor Blauvelt: thank*
Adams Rubble: yes, pease come anytime. the group is here 4 times a day
Doctor Blauvelt: what hours?
Adams Rubble: 7, 1, 7 and 1 SLT
Doctor Blauvelt: kay
Doctor Blauvelt: bye now
Adams Rubble: four times a day so anyone can come
Tinkerbell Placebo: nice to meet you both :)
Geoff Baily: I must go too now, bye all
Adams Rubble: bye everyone. Nice to meet you all :)

While I was workinng on this I inadvertantly tp'd myself to the Pure Land group site and was given a nice tour of the place by Tinkerbell. The site includes  a library of notecards on various Buddhist subjects