2010.01.13 13:00 - Cloud hugging

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Fefonz Quan. The comments are by Fefonz Quan.

    Liza Deischer: hi QT
    Qt Core: Hi Liza
    Liza Deischer: QT is that short for something
    Qt Core: yes ;-)
    Liza Deischer: so what does it mean, if you're willing to tell me
    Liza Deischer: ok, np
    Agatha Macbeth: Hi Liza, 'Sera QT
    Qt Core: hi aubergine, agatha
    Agatha Macbeth: Hello Minty
    Liza Deischer: hi Aubergine, Agatha
    Liza Deischer: interesting outfit Agatha
    Agatha Macbeth: Red enough you think?
    Liza Deischer: yes :-)
    Agatha Macbeth: TY :)
    Liza Deischer: like the hair and the glasses
    Agatha Macbeth: Mmm cute eh?
    Agatha Macbeth: You look different too
    Liza Deischer: yes
    Liza Deischer: I already forgot
    Liza Deischer: have the jeans for a long time
    Agatha Macbeth: I got so used to those red pants and the jacket
    Qt Core: hi Eliza
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Liza, Aubergine, Agatha, Armada
    Liza Deischer: but had nothing to wear as jacet or t-shirt
    Aubergine Mint: hi Eliza
    Liza Deischer: hi Eliza
    Agatha Macbeth: Hi Eliza :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Qt, too :)
    Liza Deischer: there is sill snow outside
    Liza Deischer: at least here
    Liza Deischer: but summer seems to take over in sl :-)
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah, no Armada here... guess left over chat from the talk I came from :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Yes, i thought Storm had cleared it
    Agatha Macbeth: Armada?
    Liza Deischer: no, Ik was already looking around for a Armada
    Agatha Macbeth: Spanish Armada?
    Eliza Madrigal: ha, yes... a chat line I saw when I arrived... hehe
    Liza Deischer: :-)
    Agatha Macbeth: Actuall that's a good name
    Agatha Macbeth: Actually
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi CosmicFlower, Good to see you again
    Liza Deischer: hiCosmic
    Agatha Macbeth: Hiya Cos
    Qt Core: hi Cosmic
    Agatha Macbeth: Nearly!
    Liza Deischer: I don't think that is going to work :-)
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ah, hello ;)
    Agatha Macbeth: That's it :)
    Agatha Macbeth: No subject tonight yet?
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ah ;)
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I was about to ask ;)
    Eliza Madrigal: Does not seem so... have one Agatha?
    Agatha Macbeth: Hee hee
    Agatha Macbeth: Hmmmm....(ponders)
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Actually there wasn't really one last night either
    Agatha Macbeth: Storm left after half an hour
    Agatha Macbeth: Well, half an hour -ish
    Agatha Macbeth: I have no sense of time
    Aubergine Mint: who is Storm?
    Agatha Macbeth: Storm nordwind
    Agatha Macbeth: The guy who created all this
    Agatha Macbeth: Quite a guy really.....
    Eliza Madrigal: Storm built the pavillion, Kira, etc and has been involved with Pema from the beginnings in pab...
    Aubergine Mint: oh, you mean all of Playasbeing?
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: hmm, isn`t it when no sense of time, we have passed timewall... ;) by going and goming back?
    Agatha Macbeth: Not really Cos, it's just me! :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Hey Wol :) great hat
    Qt Core: hi Wol
    Wol Euler: hello everyone
    Aubergine Mint: hi Wol
    Wol Euler: it's hair, actually :)
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ah, but that also happens sometimes when being alone.. ;) lol
    Liza Deischer: hi Wol
    Agatha Macbeth: Hello again :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Who is GoC tonight?
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: when it feels its gone about 10 min, and notice its gone one hour.. ;)
    Wol Euler: good question...
    Agatha Macbeth: I thought it was QT?
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh....
    Qt Core: no
    Wol Euler: timetable says it's fefonz.
    Agatha Macbeth: there wasn't one last night either
    Agatha Macbeth: Storm stood in
    Wol Euler: done
    Agatha Macbeth: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: yes... Tuesdays are open right now
    Agatha Macbeth: Hi Yaku
    Qt Core: hi Yak
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Ya :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hey everyone
    Liza Deischer: hi Yaku
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: hello
    Aubergine Mint: hi Yaku
    Agatha Macbeth: Where have all the guardians gone.....
    Eliza Madrigal: hehhe
    Wol Euler: long time passing ...
    Agatha Macbeth: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Okay question... do manners come with enlightenment?
    Aubergine Mint: define manners and enlightenment
    Eliza Madrigal: Can one be perfectly liberated and still run over others....
    Wol Euler: I'm inclined to say "no"
    Eliza Madrigal: Hm, well yes might have to do that Aubergine
    Wol Euler: that perfect liberation would preclude behaving in a shitty way
    Wol Euler: to other beings
    Eliza Madrigal: seems to me...
    Agatha Macbeth: S-sorry, just reading Gilles' GN
    Eliza Madrigal: I guess there are lines between cultural definitions of what manners are ...
    Liza Deischer: there are stories in Buddhism in which teachers behave not well
    Liza Deischer: but do it with a purpose
    Liza Deischer: problem is, they don't tell us
    Agatha Macbeth: Perhaps manners come with civilisation...
    Qt Core: maybe manners would leave place to simple respect
    Eliza Madrigal: True, Liza
    Agatha Macbeth: Whatever that is :)
    Liza Deischer: I think your fight Agatha
    Qt Core: manners for manners lead to stupid "rites"
    Liza Deischer: right
    Agatha Macbeth: Who wants a fight?
    Liza Deischer: not me :-)
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Me either :)
    Wol Euler: :)
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: Yes, I would say also with respect of others free will, what can be more good manner?
    Liza Deischer: mudwrestling :-)
    Liza Deischer: it is a it of a strange thing
    Liza Deischer: on one hand in Buddhism you have a great respect for you teacher
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Mick
    Wol Euler: hello mick
    Qt Core: hi mick
    Mickorod Renard: Hi Guys
    Agatha Macbeth: Yo Mick
    Liza Deischer: at the same time Tibetans can argue in a why we think is impolit
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: Hello
    Aubergine Mint: hi mick
    Liza Deischer: hi Mick
    Mickorod Renard: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: I attended a teaching today in which a person I technically agreed with was arguing in an unecessary way ... not making much room, etc...
    Eliza Madrigal: It caused me to think about natural grace a bit
    Eliza Madrigal has not attended nor seen traditional tibetan debate. more you can say, Liza?
    Mickorod Renard: sometimes I stop myself when i realise i am doing that too,,its funny how oblivious we can be to our own traits
    Liza Deischer: Smetimes we seem to think that we need to be nice and polite when we get enlightened
    Liza Deischer: (if that ever happens)
    Eliza Madrigal: and one's message might be lost if delivered badly... so also a matter of skill
    Liza Deischer: could be
    Wol Euler: cough Gilles cough
    Agatha Macbeth: Indeed :)
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Liza Deischer: Gilles?
    Eliza Madrigal: if you are going on and on about love while stomping on someone's hand.. hm...
    Wol Euler: a person who used to attend, who was famous for arguing fiercely
    Liza Deischer: ah
    Agatha Macbeth: Depends whose hand it is Eliza :)
    Eliza Madrigal: on getting all stressed out talking about effortlessness....
    Liza Deischer: the one that ended in my lap yesterday
    Eliza Madrigal smiles
    Agatha Macbeth: What ended in your lap Liza?
    Liza Deischer: (still have fur in my mouth :-))
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: hmm, I think eaven if people are enlightened, they need to storm sometimes. When it raises up naturally
    Eliza Madrigal: hahaha
    Wol Euler: yes, him :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Eh?
    Wol Euler: gilles presents most often as a werewolf
    Eliza Madrigal: Cosmic, yes I completely agree with you... thinking about the lines...
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: there are lots of beings who are so willing to love sun shine
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: but what then when thunder
    Wol Euler: hello fefonz
    Mickorod Renard: Hi Fef
    Eliza Madrigal: Hey Fef :)
    Wol Euler: and hello ara
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Ara, too
    Agatha Macbeth: What was Gilles doing on Liza's lap might i ask?
    arabella Ella: Hiya
    Mickorod Renard: Hi Ara
    Qt Core: hi fef, ara
    Wol Euler: being bitten :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Hello Ara
    Eliza Madrigal: Maybe he likes blondes
    Liza Deischer: the problem is, it is hard for us to know what really happened
    Fefonz Quan: Hi everbody :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Who bit whom?
    Liza Deischer: was je just impolite
    Agatha Macbeth: Hello Fonz :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Better late than never :)
    Fefonz Quan: exactly :)
    Agatha Macbeth: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Liza, he was astute and impolite :) It can be a regular thing in SL discussions actually...
    Agatha Macbeth: Sounds like fun tho! :)
    Liza Deischer: hi Ara, Fonz
    Eliza Madrigal: something I watch myself for... if a subject I feel invested in comes up and I go on and on over people, etc.
    Fefonz Quan: Hi Liza
    Agatha Macbeth: Lot of group notices flying around tonight....
    arabella Ella: Hiya Liza
    Mickorod Renard: well I am doing that sometimes too Eliza
    Liza Deischer: You could be very right
    Agatha Macbeth: (Hard to concentrate)
    Eliza Madrigal: the lines are funny, Mick... guess that's why I wondered what others' thoughts/observations were
    Liza Deischer: Mick, to me there is a difference when a teacher is around
    Mickorod Renard: when engrosed in ones own subject its not always easy to step back during the intensity of enthusiasm
    arabella Ella: may i ask what lines you are talking about?
    arabella Ella: chat lines?
    Eliza Madrigal: 'good' to be passionate
    Liza Deischer: as a student you don't argue that easily with teachers
    Eliza Madrigal: Yes, Ara I was asking what others thoughts were on enlightenment and manners at first...
    Wol Euler: [13:20] Eliza Madrigal: Okay question... do manners come with enlightenment?
    Eliza Madrigal: Thanks Wol
    Wol Euler: yw
    Eliza Madrigal: Then we started talking about manners in general I guess...
    Eliza Madrigal: guess it is contextual in large part
    Mickorod Renard: I think manners are something aquired,,but not always used in a natural way
    Liza Deischer: I think so too Eliza
    Agatha Macbeth: Manners are different things in different cultures...
    Liza Deischer: If i understand it right, it was a buddist setting with a teacher
    Mickorod Renard: people learn that it can be advantagious to have manners
    Agatha Macbeth: And different standards too
    Eliza Madrigal: yes... well that's what sparked my thinking
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: hmm, and also I think there comes a variety of beings state of awareness
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: some people might be like a "battle fields" only by them selves
    Eliza Madrigal: Cosmic said something which reminded me of 'wrath' discussions we've had... that there are appropriate times to be ill-mannered, too :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Yep I've known some of them :)
    Liza Deischer: Normally, in a buddhist setting, you don't be impolite with a teacher
    Eliza Madrigal nods @ Cosmic.. haha
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: and still we can be enlightened
    Liza Deischer: yep
    Eliza Madrigal: yes there seems a different between knowing protocols and being well-mannered/gracious, too
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: if someone do use help against , then its better raise a thunder
    Eliza Madrigal: *Difference
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: or turn head to see something else and take 1000 steps foward ;)
    Wol Euler: hello alf
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Alfred :)
    Mickorod Renard: it may not be natural to suppress ones feelings, and wrath may be the best option in some cases
    Agatha Macbeth: Hi Alf
    Liza Deischer: hi Alf
    Fefonz Quan: Considering 'wrath', i thought one point is that good manners and 'being 'nice' are two different things
    arabella Ella: Hi Alfred!
    Qt Core: hi alfred
    Eliza Madrigal: Yes, true Fef
    Alfred Kelberry: sorry, i lag badly
    Aubergine Mint: hi alfred
    Alfred Kelberry: good to see you all
    Mickorod Renard: Hi Alfred
    Liza Deischer: true Fonz
    Alfred Kelberry: special greetings to fef :)
    Eliza Madrigal has often been nice as a way of avoiding something when it might have been more compassionate to be wrathful
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: hmm, good manner is also let be, let others be like they want
    Alfred Kelberry: i'd hug you, but i don't have the animation :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Been gardening again Alf?
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: hmm,
    Alfred Kelberry: same old tulips, ara :)
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: avoiding for example an argue, and being nice
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: well, if feeling there is something need to take in light
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I think its beter let it out
    Liza Deischer: That's very western to avoid discussion
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: when it comes natural way
    Liza Deischer: being too polite
    Eliza Madrigal nods
    Agatha Macbeth: True Liza :)
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: but that feeling of "trying" to be nice
    Alfred Kelberry: /hug
    Agatha Macbeth: Who are you hugging Alf?
    Mickorod Renard: avoiding ignition in heated moments is usually seen as a good option
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: tels something that need to do a bit work with the issue, kind of be brave to say
    Alfred Kelberry: /hug Fefonz
    Alfred Kelberry: er.. trying to hug fef :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh, ok :-)
    Fefonz Quan: Yes
    Alfred Kelberry: wol gave me this hug thingy :)
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: (Sorry I asked....)
    Wol Euler: the hug-ee has to stand and face you first, alf
    Eliza Madrigal: Doesn't fef have to arise to be hugged?
    Fefonz Quan: for me Alf is a white cloud anyway :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Hug-ee!
    Alfred Kelberry: why, aga? a perfectly legitimate question :)
    Eliza Madrigal giggles... interesting
    arabella Ella: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: ROTFLMAO
    Eliza Madrigal: hahah
    Agatha Macbeth: Sorry :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Just me.....
    arabella Ella: that is so sweet ... except for the fact that Alfred is still a cloud for me
    Alfred Kelberry: aw..
    Eliza Madrigal: sweet to be hugged by a cloud
    Agatha Macbeth: A hugging cloud?
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Liza Deischer: I can see you Alf :-)
    Fefonz Quan: yes, that was a nice cloudy hug :)
    Eliza Madrigal: 'I see you' Alfred
    Liza Deischer: and your tulips
    Alfred Kelberry: i hope you all can "see" me, though :)
    Agatha Macbeth: A cloud with tulips, better yet....
    Fefonz Quan: (looks like someone saw 'Avatar')
    Liza Deischer: well, by now we know you're there :-)
    arabella Ella: we feel your presence Alfred definitely
    Agatha Macbeth: slaps herself silly and tries to regain composure
    Alfred Kelberry: fef, yes, indeed. although, i did not think of it :)
    Alfred Kelberry: mmm.. good time to calm down, look around, and appreciate being here with you :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Ommmmmmmmmm
    Eliza Madrigal smiles
    arabella Ella: or just appreciate Being
    Liza Deischer: :-)
    Agatha Macbeth: Be as Playing?
    Alfred Kelberry nods
    Fefonz Quan: play as bing :)
    Alfred Kelberry: aga is certainly in a playing mood :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Crosby?
    Liza Deischer: :-)
    Agatha Macbeth: Always am Alf :)
    Fefonz Quan: Chandler? ;-)
    Agatha Macbeth: You know me
    Alfred Kelberry: i sure do :)
    Alfred Kelberry pokes aga
    Agatha Macbeth: (don't tell everybody)
    Alfred Kelberry: shh... never :P
    Agatha Macbeth: Ooooh I've been poked!
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: Thank You. Needs to go. Hope to see you soon ;)
    Wol Euler: bye cosmic, take care
    Agatha Macbeth: C ya Cos
    Alfred Kelberry: bye, cosmic - that's a nice name
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: And have FUN all of You <3
    Fefonz Quan: goodbye cosmicflower, nice to have met you
    Liza Deischer: bye cosmic
    Eliza Madrigal: Bye Cosmic :)
    arabella Ella: Bye Cosmic
    Liza Deischer: hugging and poking
    Alfred Kelberry: sort of a unity of deep cold space and fragile beautiful flower
    Liza Deischer: it is getting interesting :-)
    Agatha Macbeth: Alf, did i see a group Notice earlier, something to do with you and SLUrls?
    Agatha Macbeth: Or did I imagine it?
    Alfred Kelberry: yep
    Agatha Macbeth: I DID imagine it?
    Alfred Kelberry: http://lmrk.me/
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah
    Alfred Kelberry: not quite :)
    Agatha Macbeth: TY
    Agatha Macbeth: Learning Tibetan with Gaya?
    Alfred Kelberry: yes, that was scath and gaya testing it :)
    Eliza Madrigal: And Scath :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh, wow
    Agatha Macbeth: Phew
    Fefonz Quan: (what is this list of events?)
    Alfred Kelberry: check the about page, fef :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Yeah, what am I supposed to be looking at here Alf please?
    Alfred Kelberry: basically, sl tool to publish landmarks on the web
    Agatha Macbeth: URL?
    Alfred Kelberry: and thank you wol for the "publish" tip :)
    Fefonz Quan: ah, a new tool, i see
    Eliza Madrigal: like a twitter for LMs?
    Alfred Kelberry: aga?
    Agatha Macbeth: I'm lost (again)
    Alfred Kelberry giggles
    Alfred Kelberry: read the about page
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah, that helps!
    Wol Euler: that exchange proves that Alfred is definitely both male and a programmer.
    Alfred Kelberry: hehe
    Agatha Macbeth: (Come back Mila I say)
    Alfred Kelberry: mila is always with me :P
    Wol Euler: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: For sure!
    Agatha Macbeth: Whenever.....wherever....for ever :)
    Agatha Macbeth: So we have to get this thingy from you then Alf?
    Alfred Kelberry: yep, if you like
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah, OK
    Agatha Macbeth: Sounds good anyway :)
    Alfred Kelberry: here you go :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Thank you sir :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Bertram
    Bertram Jacobus: hi everybody ;-)
    Liza Deischer: Hi Bert
    Fefonz Quan: Hey Bert!
    Alfred Kelberry: er.. welcome, ma'am :)
    Mickorod Renard: hi Bert
    Wol Euler: hello bert
    Agatha Macbeth: Guten Abend Berti
    Alfred Kelberry: hi, berty
    arabella Ella: Hiya Bert
    Bertram Jacobus: "sorry for being late" ;-)
    Mickorod Renard: before its too late,,can I devote our thoughts durin next silence for those in haiti?
    Alfred Kelberry: being is what important :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Yeah Mick, for sure :)
    Mickorod Renard: ty
    Alfred Kelberry: oh.. terrible tradegy
    Agatha Macbeth: (and terrible spelling mistakes)
    Wol Euler nods
    Fefonz Quan: (well, less terrible i would say)
    Agatha Macbeth: Mmmmm
    Agatha Macbeth: Agreed
    Aubergine Mint: bye everyone
    Eliza Madrigal: Bye Aubergine :)
    Mickorod Renard: bye aub
    Agatha Macbeth: Bye Minty
    Fefonz Quan: bye aubergine
    Mickorod Renard: ty
    Agatha Macbeth: NP
    Eliza Madrigal: Bye Qt :)
    Alfred Kelberry: i think i've seen black snowflakes flying around
    Qt Core: bye all, have fun
    Mickorod Renard: bye qt
    Fefonz Quan: bye Qt
    Agatha Macbeth: Ciao QT
    Alfred Kelberry: bye, cutie
    Wol Euler: bye qt
    arabella Ella: notte Qt
    Fefonz Quan: Wol, a changed hat is it?
    Mickorod Renard: I hope that animal has all its inoculations before it comes to Malta Bert?
    arabella Ella: I will help Bert to smuggle it in
    Bertram Jacobus: mom plz
    arabella Ella: should not be difficult
    Wol Euler: hair, actually :)
    Wol Euler: decorated hair
    Bertram Jacobus: ah. now i see. lol. no. won´t have it there i guess ... ;-)
    arabella Ella: cool Wol :)
    Liza Deischer: see you all next time
    Eliza Madrigal: Bye Liza :)
    Mickorod Renard: very snazzy Wol
    Wol Euler: bye liza, take care
    Agatha Macbeth: To't ziens Liza :)
    Wol Euler: ty mick
    Mickorod Renard: bye Liza
    arabella Ella: nite Liza
    Liza Deischer: you can drop the ' Agatha
    Alfred Kelberry: gee, aga speaks any language :)
    Fefonz Quan: b ye Liza
    Liza Deischer: :-)
    arabella Ella: can you speak my language too Ag?
    Agatha Macbeth: Maltese?
    arabella Ella: yes
    Alfred Kelberry: ask her something :)
    arabella Ella: kif inti il-lejla?
    Agatha Macbeth: Is it not a form of Arabic?
    arabella Ella: Semetic influence
    Agatha Macbeth: Uh huh
    Mickorod Renard: jekk jok jogabok
    Agatha Macbeth: Shut up Mick :)
    Alfred Kelberry: lejla sounds like a girl's name :)
    Mickorod Renard: he he
    arabella Ella: it does Alfred
    arabella Ella: but it isnt
    Agatha Macbeth: She's got me on my knees
    Alfred Kelberry: come on, aga!
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Where are we going?
    arabella Ella: just google it
    Agatha Macbeth: Google what?
    Alfred Kelberry: haha
    Alfred Kelberry: gee, aga is funny :)
    arabella Ella: the test is ... to give me a reply in the same language
    arabella Ella: or game rather than test
    Agatha Macbeth: I'm afraid I don't know it :(
    arabella Ella: owwwwww
    arabella Ella: ok
    arabella Ella: Kif = How
    arabella Ella: inti = you
    Agatha Macbeth: How about esperanto :)
    arabella Ella: il-lejla = tonight
    arabella Ella: how are you tonight
    Eliza Madrigal: Il-hovercraft tiegħi hu mimli sallur
    Mickorod Renard: I drank one of those once Agatha
    Agatha Macbeth: What is 'good'?
    arabella Ella: verbs often incorporated into subject
    Agatha Macbeth: Eh Mick?
    Eliza Madrigal giggles.... sorry couldn't resist that line from the web ;-)
    arabella Ella: good - (femm) - tajba grazzi (well thanks)
    Agatha Macbeth: Sorry ara, maltese is really one I don't know....
    Agatha Macbeth: I must brush up :)
    arabella Ella: Eliza ... where did you get that from!!!!!
    Agatha Macbeth: I like Maltesers tho
    Eliza Madrigal: hahaha
    Wol Euler: mmmm yes
    Eliza Madrigal: http://www.omniglot.com/language/phrases/maltese.php
    Fefonz Quan: sounds very similar to arabic
    arabella Ella: oh so you are one of those who like to tease us?
    arabella Ella: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: The only thing I know about Malta are the Knights :)
    Fefonz Quan: Knights in white satin?
    Agatha Macbeth: Catholic equivalent of the Knights of st John
    Eliza Madrigal: never reaching the end...
    arabella Ella: The Sovereign Military Order of St John of Jerusalem, Rhodes and Malta ...
    Wol Euler: how foolish that one has to be over 12 yrs of age to view the British Maltesers site :-/
    Wol Euler: when kids can buy them freely
    Agatha Macbeth: That's the one!
    Mickorod Renard: catholic equiv of templars
    arabella Ella: yes
    Agatha Macbeth: Actually they took over a lot of the Templars holdings when they were suppreassed....
    Agatha Macbeth: Or even supressed
    Mickorod Renard: or even burnt
    Eliza Madrigal: Thanks everyone. Bye for now :)
    Agatha Macbeth: That too Mick
    Mickorod Renard: bye Eliza
    Wol Euler: bye elizal, take care
    Fefonz Quan: bye Eliza!
    Yakuzza Lethecus: bye eliza
    Wol Euler: jingle well
    Agatha Macbeth: C ya Eliza :)
    arabella Ella: bye Eliza ... you surprised me there!
    Agatha Macbeth: How d'you like your stake Mr Molay?
    Alfred Kelberry: jingle bells?
    Wol Euler grins. Eliza's outfit has little bells on it that jingle when she walks
    Agatha Macbeth: Like Noddy :0
    Alfred Kelberry: ah, gah - i missed it
    Fefonz Quan: Yes, Noddy!
    Mickorod Renard: me too,,far too well mannered to look as she was getting up
    Alfred Kelberry: :)
    Wol Euler: ever the gentleman.
    Mickorod Renard: :)
    Alfred Kelberry: i bet aga did look :)
    Agatha Macbeth: At what?
    Alfred Kelberry: er.. nothing
    Alfred Kelberry: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah...a Buddhist thing then?
    Alfred Kelberry: yes, right
    Agatha Macbeth: Let us all look at nothing grasshopper....
    Alfred Kelberry: nothing kind of nothing
    Fefonz Quan: Yes, emptiness can be beautiful Alf ;-)
    arabella Ella: i must go ... nite all ... il-lejl it-tajeb lill-kullhadd
    Alfred Kelberry: fef, true
    Mickorod Renard: nite nite aRA
    Wol Euler: 'night ara
    Agatha Macbeth: Easy for you to say Ara :)
    Fefonz Quan: nite Ara
    Mickorod Renard: CIAO
    Alfred Kelberry: aga, what's manga anyway?
    Agatha Macbeth: Japanese 'comic' books
    Wol Euler: printed anime :)
    Alfred Kelberry: ah..
    Agatha Macbeth: Actually a lot of them are far from comical, quite dark really....
    Mickorod Renard: oh yea,,i saw some good ones on german tv once
    Agatha Macbeth: Probably
    Alfred Kelberry: nekomanga? :)
    Agatha Macbeth: That too
    Bertram Jacobus: "ghost in the shell" ...
    Agatha Macbeth: I sepecially like CLAMP's stuff
    Mickorod Renard: ok..i must depart ladies and gents
    Agatha Macbeth: Or CRAMP as I call them
    Alfred Kelberry: yea, neko tones are popular among teens
    Agatha Macbeth: BFN Mick
    Wol Euler: bye mick
    Mickorod Renard: byeeeeee
    Agatha Macbeth: Neko rocks! :)
    Alfred Kelberry: says aga the teen :)
    Agatha Macbeth: In spirit :)
    Alfred Kelberry: yea, it's good. some lose it at 20.
    Agatha Macbeth: 20 stone?
    Agatha Macbeth: Or Kg
    Alfred Kelberry: i think in meters
    Agatha Macbeth: Bragging again Alf?
    Alfred Kelberry: er.. saying the truth :)
    Alfred Kelberry: oops, wol got up
    Agatha Macbeth: Night all, take care
    Wol Euler: my dears, it's time. Goodnight, take care, be happy and productive
    Alfred Kelberry: thank you, wol
    Wol Euler waits patiently for the taxi to arrive
    Fefonz Quan: nite Wol
    Alfred Kelberry: fef, how have you been?
    Alfred Kelberry: all is good with you?
    Bertram Jacobus: hm -
    Fefonz Quan: i am great, will leave soon too, it is late
    Alfred Kelberry: right
    Bertram Jacobus: wish you very nice time fef
    Alfred Kelberry: i hope you'll be coming more often :)
    Bertram Jacobus: oaky - i´ll leave too - have a good time all and ty
    Fefonz Quan: Good night Yaku
    Yakuzza Lethecus: night fef
    Fefonz Quan: can i stop the recording?
    Yakuzza Lethecus: and kalkal
    Yakuzza Lethecus: alfred
    Yakuzza Lethecus: it stops anyway
    Yakuzza Lethecus: take care
    Fefonz Quan: (and Alfred, sure)
    Fefonz Quan: nite, good to see you, friendly cloud :)
    Fefonz Quan: namaste!
    Alfred Kelberry: oh, bye :)
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