2010.01.20 13:00 - This is not a chat log

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Storm Nordwind. The comments are by Fefonz Quan.

    Flux Constantine: hi
    Qt Core: hi Flux
    Flux Constantine: I'm looking at the wiki
    Flux Constantine: is that your page, with the quote from Tilopa?
    Qt Core: i think it is
    Flux Constantine: very nice
    Qt Core: planned about adding rthings but never got the time
    Flux Constantine: ah
    Flux Constantine: I have a book: Buddhist Masters of Enchantment: Lives and Legends of the Mahasiddhas
    Qt Core: hi Storm
    Storm Nordwind: Hi Qt. Hi Flux
    Flux Constantine: hi
    Storm Nordwind: Sitting on the outer cushions today?
    Qt Core: i think i have several (unread) books about buddism :-)
    Flux Constantine: this one has illustrations, and only a page or two of text about each of the mahasiddhas
    Storm Nordwind: Hi SophiaSharon!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: Hi All :))
    Storm Nordwind: Are you talking of Dowman's book Flux?
    Flux Constantine: yes
    Storm Nordwind: I have it here
    Flux Constantine: ah, nice
    Flux Constantine: Qt had a Tilopa quote on his wiki page
    Storm Nordwind: Tilopa the enigmatic ;)
    Flux Constantine: was Tilopa Naropa's teacher?
    Storm Nordwind: Certainly one of them I believe
    Flux Constantine: he tried to feed him fish guts, and said, "how can a gourmet attain enlightenment?" or something like this
    Storm Nordwind chuckles
    SophiaSharon Larnia: Hi Aubergine
    Storm Nordwind: Hello Aubergine :)
    Aubergine Mint: hi everyone
    Flux Constantine: dowman has a web site, also... keithdowman.net
    Storm Nordwind: Yes I have seen it. I was in contact with him a few days ago.
    Flux Constantine: ah, interesting
    Flux Constantine: so what's the news? is everyone enlightened yet? :)
    Storm Nordwind looks around
    Flux Constantine: hehe
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hmm
    Storm Nordwind: Mostly it seems ;)
    Qt Core: i'm not... and a personal sl light may not alp ;-)
    Qt Core: alp=help
    Storm Nordwind: I was after a copy of Indrabhuti's Jnanasiddhi, obviously in English preferably, but Tibetan or Sanskrit would do! I hoped Keith would know.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: brb
    Storm Nordwind: By the way, I think Fefonz is due for this slot but emailed that he may not make it. I've grabbed the log for now.
    Qt Core: is it so hard to find that amazon could not help, storm ?
    Storm Nordwind: It is very hard to find yes Qt. The only publication I've located so far was published in 1929 in India and is long out of print
    Flux Constantine: hmm
    Flux Constantine: google says: http://vajranatha.com/teaching/Dakinis.htm
    Flux Constantine: I don't know what this is, but it mentions dakinis, so it can't be half bad
    Storm Nordwind chuckles
    Storm Nordwind: er... yes... they do get quite an enthusiastic audience! ;)
    Storm Nordwind: Who knows... perhaps one day, in centuries to come, someone will be trying to find the first chat logs of Play as Being now that it has (by then) spread around the globe :)
    Aubergine Mint: :)
    Flux Constantine: yes, sometimes it turns out to be surprisingly important what you say. it turns out someone was taking it seriously
    SophiaSharon Larnia: sorry back and reading... why do dakinis get an enthusiastic audience, can you explain?
    Storm Nordwind: Dakinis are often 'used' as Yidams in Buddhist tantric practice.
    Storm Nordwind: They become the focus for the tantrika
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes, i thought maybe it was something more than obvious, something i was missing
    SophiaSharon Larnia: obvious*
    SophiaSharon Larnia: HI Mickorod
    Mickorod Renard: Hiya
    Storm Nordwind: I think that any deity that you 'become' during tantric practice tends to get an enthusiastic regard :)
    Storm Nordwind: Hi Mick the wet-footed
    Flux Constantine: Storm, are you familiar with Namkhai Norbu Rinpoche?
    Qt Core: hi mick
    Storm Nordwind: I have not read his teachings. How familiar do you want Flux? ;)
    Flux Constantine: I don't know
    Flux Constantine: whatever you've got is fine :)
    Storm Nordwind: Ecosia is your friend, as is Wikipedia :)
    Flux Constantine: what's Ecosia? not familiar
    Storm Nordwind: Something Bertram (I think) told us about. A 'green' search engine it is claimed. http://www.ecosia.org
    Flux Constantine: damn, now I have to save the earth while doing these searches?
    Flux Constantine: I was just going to destroy everything...
    Storm Nordwind: Frittering rather than saving is your predeliction? :)
    Flux Constantine: that sounds accurate
    SophiaSharon Larnia: why
    Flux Constantine: good question
    Storm Nordwind: And the accompanying good answer is? ...
    SophiaSharon Larnia: Hi Wol :)
    Wol Euler: hello everyone, sorry I'm late
    Mickorod Renard: Hi Wol
    Aubergine Mint: hi wol
    Flux Constantine: it was there to be frittered, I couldn't help it
    Qt Core: hi wol
    Storm Nordwind: Hi Wol sans label
    Wol Euler: :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
    Storm Nordwind: We have no topic yet Wol. Unless we count Flux's frittering :)
    Flux Constantine: no label... kind of a Naomi Klein thing
    Wol Euler: or an awkward kind of joke
    SophiaSharon Larnia: brb
    Wol Euler: "This is not a group tag"
    Storm Nordwind: "ceci n'est pas un tag"
    Wol Euler: exactement
    Wol Euler: I'll use that!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: what does that mean?
    Wol Euler: it's an art history reference :) "This is not a pipe" was the title of a painting of a pipe by Rene Magritte
    Storm Nordwind: It's a parody of Magritte, which is a parody of...
    Wol Euler: ah, it's too long :(
    SophiaSharon Larnia: ah thanks :)
    Storm Nordwind: Quite the intellectual session this one ;)
    Wol Euler smiles. I miss intellectuality, hanging out in the office so much.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: lol
    Storm Nordwind: Surely there are compensations? Pizza for example ;)
    Wol Euler: only when I order it myself!
    Wol Euler: bah. humbug.
    Flux Constantine: I'll order you a pizza. I think I can dial internationally
    Storm Nordwind: But can you dial with intentionality? :)
    Wol Euler: heheheheh
    Flux Constantine: Can you drop intentionality?
    Wol Euler: and great mindfulness
    Qt Core: i hhope you do only intentional international call ;-)
    Flux Constantine: no, I just pick up and say "call anyone"
    Aubergine Mint: so much for intellectuality, hehe
    Mickorod Renard: Hi Ara
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i ordered pizza on a pennsylvania cell phone in california once and they wouldnt take the order until i called from a california number
    arabella Ella whispers hiya
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Ara
    Storm Nordwind waves
    Qt Core: hi Ara
    Storm Nordwind: Hello ara!
    arabella Ella: Ciao Qt!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: did I talk over the bell, Im sorry
    arabella Ella: Hiya storm and all!
    Wol Euler: hello ara
    Aubergine Mint: hi ara
    Storm Nordwind: Pizza is important Sharon! :)
    Wol Euler grins broadly. We'll be meeting in RL in ... four days?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: wow!! already!!
    Storm Nordwind: So soon? Wow!
    arabella Ella: yes Wol i am really looking forward to it
    Flux Constantine: and again I'm not invited?
    Flux Constantine: :)
    Wol Euler: :)
    arabella Ella: I went to visit the meditation farmhouse today to see it again and see that all is in order and i got the keys too :)
    Mickorod Renard: is it ok?
    Storm Nordwind: Put your money where your mouth is, Flux, and I'm sure you'll be able to go along
    arabella Ella: and the weather and greenery were fantastic
    arabella Ella: and
    Mickorod Renard: yes?
    Flux Constantine: always have to pay to play, I guess
    arabella Ella: there is an almond blossom tree ... blossoming ... wild ... right outside meditation farmhouse
    SophiaSharon Larnia: oooh
    Mickorod Renard: nice
    arabella Ella: i just hope we will have walking meditation too ... must persuade Pema
    Wol Euler smiles.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: Im sure he will!
    arabella Ella: if the weather keeps
    Mickorod Renard: we may all be wheel chair bound
    Flux Constantine: sorry, is this a Europe or US meeting?
    Flux Constantine hears a pin drop
    arabella Ella: Hiya Flux
    arabella Ella: sorry had an IM
    Flux Constantine: howdy
    Qt Core: malta in the mediterranean
    Flux Constantine: I see
    arabella Ella: it will be in Malta a little island in the Mediterranean
    arabella Ella: do you know it?
    arabella Ella: it is where I am from
    Flux Constantine: vaguely
    arabella Ella: oh seems like i have lag
    arabella Ella: apologies my chat is not appearing in the order typed due to lag i guess
    Flux Constantine: I think Hemingway mentioned it
    Wol Euler: hello calvino
    SophiaSharon Larnia: Hi Calvino
    Mickorod Renard: Hi Cal
    arabella Ella: Hiya Calvino!
    Storm Nordwind: Hi Cal
    Calvino Rabeni: Hi, everyone !
    Flux Constantine: hi
    Aubergine Mint: hi cal
    Wol Euler: "I see you shiver with anticip..."
    SophiaSharon Larnia: Oh I wish so much I could go, it's cold and dreary here, and it would be the perfect pick me up :)
    arabella Ella: so as i said i visited meditation farmhouse this afternoon and i am desperately hoping the weather will be as it was today
    Flux Constantine: "we're not praying for a weather change" --thus said Stim in his Berkeley recordings
    Storm Nordwind: Do you have a schedule planned ara?
    arabella Ella: well i suggest good walking boots for walking on spikey rocks
    Wol Euler: Stim won't be there.
    arabella Ella: and some warm clothes as it could get cold at night
    Flux Constantine: but his words live on, in my memory :)
    arabella Ella: my schedule so far is planned for the days before and after ... part taxi part tour guide :)
    arabella Ella: the rest is up to Pema and Eos
    Mickorod Renard: I wonder whether memory is a freak accident of nature
    arabella Ella: in what sense?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i dont think so Mick, we couldnt survive without some sort of memory
    Mickorod Renard: well, I am not sure it serves a necessary purpose
    SophiaSharon Larnia: if i find food, i must remember where it was
    Wol Euler: all animals have it though, so I'm sure it is of some use...
    Storm Nordwind: On the California retreat we had a silent day too, and some people liked that. Are you planning one of those?
    Wol Euler grins hopefully
    arabella Ella: @ Flux ... Malta is 92 kilometers (60 miles) south of Sicily
    Flux Constantine: ok, I'll be there in five minutes
    arabella Ella: :)
    Mickorod Renard: silence may be too much for me
    arabella Ella: are u up the road?
    Wol Euler: try it and see :)
    Mickorod Renard: I may crack up
    Mickorod Renard: he he
    Flux Constantine: that's the fun part
    Storm Nordwind: waterwings are provided at the start of your swim from Palermo
    Qt Core: silence outside it is, mick...
    Mickorod Renard: must remember to pack my axe
    arabella Ella: where are you based Flux?
    Flux Constantine: I'm in the US - Arizona
    Flux Constantine: so, yeah, it takes some effort to haul my sorry carcass over there
    arabella Ella: ah ... different time zone ... different culture ... lots of differences ... i have been to Phoenix
    Flux Constantine: oh, you noticed a culture here?
    Flux Constantine: I must have missed something
    Storm Nordwind: yes. in a petri dish
    arabella Ella: of course there is a culture
    Flux Constantine: haha
    SophiaSharon Larnia: lol
    arabella Ella: it is up to Pema i guess
    Wol Euler: whether the US has a culture?
    Wol Euler scrolls back to read again
    Flux Constantine: yes, can he tell us that, please
    arabella Ella: Pema gives more culture to the US, Storm too
    SophiaSharon Larnia: nods
    Mickorod Renard: I know the US well,,I see lots of John Wayne films
    arabella Ella: apologies Wol as I said my chat is going crazy tonight
    Wol Euler: no worries :)
    Flux Constantine: Mickorod, where are you from, again?
    Mickorod Renard: :)
    Mickorod Renard: the UK
    Flux Constantine: I know Ireland well from listening to a lot of U2
    Mickorod Renard: he he
    Storm Nordwind: That's like saying "You're from Arizona. yes I know Canada quite well!" ;)
    Wol Euler shudders.
    Flux Constantine: well, I naturally assume I was James Joyce in a past life
    Wol Euler: hello eliza
    Mickorod Renard: Hi Eliza
    Flux Constantine: I still don't understand Finnegans Wake though. guess I forgot
    Eliza Madrigal waves... brb
    Storm Nordwind: Hi Ms. Madrigal!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: HI Eliza, and bye for now!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: have to go
    Mickorod Renard: bye S S L
    Storm Nordwind: Bye Sharon
    Wol Euler: bye sharon, take care
    arabella Ella: can you do stream of consciousness then Flux?
    Flux Constantine: what do you think this is? :)
    arabella Ella: oh perhaps a more modern version?
    arabella Ella: perhaps i am a bit ... old fashioned ...
    Flux Constantine: well they had to go and invent all these fucking computers
    Mickorod Renard: cool
    Flux Constantine: but at least the pornography is much better
    Wol Euler raises an eyebrow.
    arabella Ella: i went to watch avatar tonight ... i think it is really brilliant
    Mickorod Renard: raises two eyebrows
    Flux Constantine: eyebrows back down, everyone
    Storm Nordwind: In 3D ara?
    Mickorod Renard: :)
    arabella Ella: yes
    arabella Ella: i simply loved it ... would gladly watch it again
    Flux Constantine: I tried to watch it, but walked out in the middle
    Flux Constantine: I had to go fritter away my time somewhere else
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi, apologize for the darting back and forth... thanks for all the hello's before no need to repeat. hah
    arabella Ella: well some people have all the time in the world i guess
    Flux Constantine: we each have 24 hours per day, I think
    Wol Euler: :)
    Mickorod Renard: I usually sleep through them,,but I found the new sherlock holmes captivating
    Storm Nordwind: Isn't that his job Mick?
    Mickorod Renard: to sleep?
    Mickorod Renard: not sure
    Storm Nordwind: To captivate criminals
    Mickorod Renard: ahh, i see,,well deduced
    Flux Constantine: anyone watch Dollhouse?
    Mickorod Renard: may have years ago
    arabella Ella: should i raise an eyebrow there Flux?
    Flux Constantine: ara: if you like :)
    Flux Constantine: but it's just an american TV show
    arabella Ella: no clue
    Mickorod Renard: can anyone remember 'chesty morgan'?
    arabella Ella: no
    Eliza Madrigal: no clue to either
    Wol Euler: sorry
    Flux Constantine: Chesty Morgan is a Polish-born Jewish[1] exotic dancer who starred in two films directed by Doris Wishman.
    Storm Nordwind: You're showing your age Mick
    Mickorod Renard: see,,having no memory is a benefit
    Calvino Rabeni: Calvino Rabeni slips out quietly for RL meeting.
    Flux Constantine: but Wikipedia remembered that, not me
    Storm Nordwind: That was obvious Flux
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Flux Constantine: isn't my role here to repeat obvious statements?
    Storm Nordwind: no
    Flux Constantine: oops
    arabella Ella: should we allocate a role to you?
    Aubergine Mint: bye everyone
    Flux Constantine: court jester?
    Storm Nordwind waves
    Eliza Madrigal: Bye Aubergine :)
    Mickorod Renard: bye aub
    Wol Euler: bye aubergine, take care
    Eliza Madrigal prefers to wear the bells...
    Flux Constantine: just give me a dunce cap, I'll sit in the corner
    Storm Nordwind: promise?
    Flux Constantine: I'm probably lying
    arabella Ella: your choice dont say you were coerced now
    Mickorod Renard: ok,,am going somewhere
    Mickorod Renard: byeeeeeee
    Qt Core: time to go
    Qt Core: time
    Wol Euler: bye mick, take care
    arabella Ella: bye Mick notte Qt
    Storm Nordwind: The hour is up
    Wol Euler: and bye qt
    Qt Core: bye all, have fun
    Eliza Madrigal: :) Bye Mick Qt, Ara
    arabella Ella: I must go too
    arabella Ella: bye all
    Wol Euler: bye storm, ara
    Storm Nordwind: Bye then!
    Eliza Madrigal signed on for just a minute actually just to try a new trick... but was lured by friendly faces
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Wol Euler: ah :)
    Flux Constantine: so now the real party starts? :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Guess so
    Eliza Madrigal waits... wonders....
    Eliza Madrigal: Good that you found a moment, Wol
    Wol Euler: well, I was glad to get out of the office "early" for once
    Eliza Madrigal: :) yes, congratulations!
    Eliza Madrigal: When do you travel?
    Wol Euler: monday morning early
    Flux Constantine: where are you headed?
    Wol Euler: to the retreat in malta
    Flux Constantine: oh, right.
    Flux Constantine: I'm a little slow, apparently :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah :) Hope that it will be a concentrated restful period for you... let me know if there is beer day
    Wol Euler: heheheheheh
    Wol Euler: there will definitely be one in october!
    Wol Euler: followed by the silent day to nurse our hangovers
    Eliza Madrigal: :) hahaha
    Flux Constantine: let's just do everything NOW
    Flux Constantine: what's with all these timing issues? :)
    Wol Euler: patience, grasshopper.
    Flux Constantine bows
    Flux Constantine tries to snatch the pebble from your hand
    Eliza Madrigal: Well I'm excited for you all :) I better get going though... argument breaking out over potato skins in the kitchen :)
    Wol Euler: jheheheh
    Wol Euler: wield a big spatula
    Flux Constantine: sign of the times... we have weighty issues to deal with
    Eliza Madrigal: :))
    Eliza Madrigal: Bye for now !
    Wol Euler: bye eliza
    Flux Constantine: and then there were two
    Wol Euler: I'm off too actually, sad to say.
    Flux Constantine: oh well
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