2010.01.20 19:00 - Entropy

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    The Guardian for this meeting was stevenaia Michinaga. The comments are by stevenaia Michinaga.

    Flux Constantine and I sat in relative quite a while until Eden Haiku and Benedizione Vita joined us for a short time.

    stevenaia Michinaga: helo Flux
    Flux Constantine: hi
    stevenaia Michinaga: have you been here before?
    Flux Constantine: yes, a couple times
    stevenaia Michinaga: :), welcome back
    Flux Constantine: thanks :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: I heard the bell but lost track if that was the end or begining of the 90 seconds
    stevenaia Michinaga: do I appear to be floating to you?
    Flux Constantine: yes
    stevenaia Michinaga: so have you come with anything in particular on your mind tonight?
    stevenaia Michinaga: I feel better grounded over here
    stevenaia Michinaga: hello Jasvinder
    stevenaia Michinaga: hello Eden
    stevenaia Michinaga: you look blue tonight
    Eden Haiku: Hello Steve.
    Eden Haiku: Wel, yes, I'm trying this new Navi look...
    Eden Haiku: Hi Flux!
    stevenaia Michinaga: I was just sitting quietly here with Flux
    Eden Haiku: Ah, ok.
    stevenaia Michinaga: Navi"?
    Flux Constantine: hi
    Eden Haiku: The tribe in the movie Avatar...
    stevenaia Michinaga: awww, right
    stevenaia Michinaga: shouldn;t you be 9 foor tall
    Eden Haiku: I kept Eden's features but I'm using the blue skin...
    stevenaia Michinaga: hello Bene
    Benedizione Vita: hello all
    Benedizione Vita: Eden, are you a Navi'i?
    Eden Haiku: Hi Benedizione!
    Eden Haiku: yes, a kind of remote cousin of the Navi tribe...
    Eden Haiku: Not as tall,and the tail is a cat,s tail. Could not adjust the real Navi one...
    Benedizione Vita: a hobbit navi
    Eden Haiku: Would you like the link to Pandora's? I was inspired by your discussion with Eliza I read on a log ;)
    Eden Haiku: yeah, a hobbit one. Still 6 feet 1...
    stevenaia Michinaga: 3 hours on Pandora was plenty
    Benedizione Vita: I went there, actually :)
    Benedizione Vita: but I didn't turn into a navi
    Flux Constantine: sorry, what is Pandora's?
    Benedizione Vita: I am happy with avatar of avatar, instead of avatar of avatar of avatar
    Eden Haiku: The place i not as interesting as I thought it would be. A lot of weaponry there,
    Benedizione Vita: what is Pandora? Only the most hostile environment known to man
    stevenaia Michinaga: It is the planet used in the movie Avatar
    Flux Constantine: oh, right
    Benedizione Vita: agreed, Eden--emphasis was totally on the role play and fighting there
    stevenaia Michinaga: it took me a while too
    Benedizione Vita: to me the amazing thing is the environment
    Flux Constantine: so they have an SL simulation or something?
    Eden Haiku: Avatar of avatar of avatar...hum. I noticed I'm not quite myself (at least my avi) in blue skin either...
    Benedizione Vita: (I wasn't really being sarcastic Flux--it's a reference to the movie)
    Flux Constantine: gotcha
    Eden Haiku: Have seen mostly shops there, maybe there is more but is is very warlike....and scary according to the rules...

    Benedizione Vita relays a recent realization to the group

    Benedizione Vita: so, play as being
    Benedizione Vita: I have a story to share
    stevenaia Michinaga: listens
    Benedizione Vita: it was in a biological physics lecture
    Benedizione Vita: the prof made the point that the sun doesn't add energy to the earth systerm, per se
    Benedizione Vita: but that it does drive a process of food creation and consumption that generates biological order
    Benedizione Vita: so it effectively makes patterns and thereby washes away entropy
    Benedizione Vita: stunning concept!
    Benedizione Vita: stunning idea, I should say
    Benedizione Vita: rather
    stevenaia Michinaga: "washes away entropy"
    Benedizione Vita: anyway, this idea of energy causing entropy exchange gives a much different flavor to the sense of being embodied
    Benedizione Vita: I feel not so much like a... give me a moment...
    Benedizione Vita: it is somehow more wondrous feeling, to be such a patter, such a flow of energy, rather than a consumer
    stevenaia Michinaga: awww
    Eden Haiku: listening
    Benedizione Vita: what do you mean, steve?
    Eden Haiku: It washes away entropy...
    Benedizione Vita: is there sometimes lag in the chats, I wonder?
    stevenaia Michinaga: I was asking Bene
    stevenaia Michinaga: lag does interesting things to conversations
    Benedizione Vita: yes :)
    Benedizione Vita: anyway, everything I wrote up through consumer was meant to be one thought
    Benedizione Vita: :)
    Eden Haiku: The sun drives a process that washes away entropy?
    Benedizione Vita: essentially
    Benedizione Vita: creates order
    Benedizione Vita: uses energy to create order
    stevenaia Michinaga: except the sun eventually runs down
    Benedizione Vita: yes, we think it will eventually run out of energy
    stevenaia Michinaga: entropy is the long term result
    Benedizione Vita: yes
    Benedizione Vita: of course this is not a violation of entropy inrease
    Eden Haiku: And you feel good about being part of this flow of energy lauched by the sun instead of only a consumer,(of energy?)
    Benedizione Vita: well, it is a competely different concept to me
    Benedizione Vita: much more liquid
    stevenaia Michinaga: nods
    Benedizione Vita: much softer
    Benedizione Vita: much more space
    Benedizione Vita: cooler
    stevenaia Michinaga: a "now" view
    Benedizione Vita: well, it certainly takes place within a sense of presence
    Benedizione Vita: but what I am describing is more a shift in the appartent quality of the content of the sense of prsence
    Benedizione Vita: the stage of presence being the same, perhaps, or slightly changed in quality, but the main (obvious) change in the play
    stevenaia Michinaga: the quality of the energy
    Benedizione Vita: I'm not sure what you mean by energy in this context
    stevenaia Michinaga: the energy flowing
    Benedizione Vita: in some sense yes--in the energy of feeling and perception of embodiment
    Benedizione Vita: but I am afraid I must go put some more food in the entropy engine :)
    Benedizione Vita: I am very happy to share this story, though--thank you all for listening (reading)
    stevenaia Michinaga: enjoy
    Eden Haiku: ;-)
    stevenaia Michinaga: a nice perspective
    Eden Haiku: A pleasure to listen to you
    stevenaia Michinaga: leaving Eden?
    Eden Haiku: I will also leave. Thank you Steve, bye Flux.
    Eden Haiku: Good evening to you both.
    stevenaia Michinaga: bye
    stevenaia Michinaga: night Flux
    stevenaia Michinaga: come again
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