The Guardian for this meeting was Yakuzza Lethecus. The comments are by Yakuzza Lethecus.
Yakuzza Lethecus: wb bert/magic
Bertram Jacobus: whaow - still alone ... ;-)
Magic Leimes: Hi yak
Yakuzza Lethecus: magic you know whats going on here ?
Yakuzza Lethecus: you were here yesterday!?
Yakuzza Lethecus: so everything will be logged and posted and held against you
Yakuzza Lethecus: :)
Bertram Jacobus: lol
Magic Leimes: bert told me about it
Yakuzza Lethecus: hey agatha
Bertram Jacobus: hy agatha ... :-)
Magic Leimes: ok
Agatha Macbeth: Hi y'all :)
Magic Leimes: hi agatha
Agatha Macbeth: Your legs seem to have disappeared Magic :)
Magic Leimes: ah
Magic Leimes: ;-)
Agatha Macbeth: Well below the knees anyway
Magic Leimes: better now i think
Agatha Macbeth: Better :)
Magic Leimes: thanks ;-/0
Magic Leimes: ;-)
Agatha Macbeth: AO probably ;-)
Magic Leimes: yes it was on
Magic Leimes: ;-)
Agatha Macbeth: I do it all the time
Agatha Macbeth: You OK Berti?
Magic Leimes: ;-)
Bertram Jacobus: ty agatha - yes - and you ? :-)
Agatha Macbeth: Feeling a bit better
Bertram Jacobus: what was before ?
Agatha Macbeth: I have had an awful cold
Agatha Macbeth: Really felt doen :(
Agatha Macbeth: down
Agatha Macbeth: Hi Beau
Bertram Jacobus: ah. you´re not alone with that. a friend of mine, too ...
Agatha Macbeth: And Mr Ordinary too...
Bertram Jacobus: hy bleu and th :-)
Magic Leimes: good your feeling better agatha
Yakuzza Lethecus: hey blue
Yakuzza Lethecus: bleu
Bleu Oleander: hi!
Agatha Macbeth: TY Magic :)
Yakuzza Lethecus: and th
Magic Leimes: Hi bleu
Magic Leimes: Hi sophia
SophiaSharon Larnia: Hi All :)
Bleu Oleander: hey Yak, thought you would be in Malta
Bertram Jacobus: and mrs. ssl - also a big HI ... :-)
Agatha Macbeth: Hello SSL :)
Yakuzza Lethecus: from sunday to sunday
Bleu Oleander: very good
Yakuzza Lethecus: so i will fly from duesseldorf at 11am on sunday
Bleu Oleander: will look forward to hearing about it!
Yakuzza Lethecus: together with bertram here
Bleu Oleander: oh very nice
Yakuzza Lethecus: hey sophia
Bertram Jacobus appoves that ;o)
Bertram Jacobus: + r
SophiaSharon Larnia: Hi :) The time arrived so quickly, it flew!
Magic Leimes: Hi TH
TH Ordinary: hi!
Yakuzza Lethecus: sophia: can you share a few memories about how you think about the last retreat in princeton ?
SophiaSharon Larnia: what sticks in my mind is how quickly e were able to feel comfortable around each other
SophiaSharon Larnia: we*
SophiaSharon Larnia: which was a relief to find out :)
Bertram Jacobus: hello cal ... :-)
Bleu Oleander: are these retreats for PaB people only?
SophiaSharon Larnia: but honestly, that one was a short retreat,yours is much longer and more intensive!
SophiaSharon Larnia: Hi Calvino
Bertram Jacobus: i don´t think so blue ...
Magic Leimes: Hello Calvino
SophiaSharon Larnia: Hi Zon
Agatha Macbeth: Hello Zon :)
Yakuzza Lethecus: hey cal, we are all guardians but it´s open, right bert
Bertram Jacobus: and hy zon ;-)
Magic Leimes: Hi Zon
Agatha Macbeth: (Makes a change from Arabella trying to rezz on me)
Zon Quar: hi all
Calvino Rabeni: Hello everyone
Agatha Macbeth: :)
Yakuzza Lethecus: i still don´t know what it means to be a ,,pab citizen"
Agatha Macbeth: Hi Cal
Calvino Rabeni: Hi Agatha :)
Yakuzza Lethecus: it´s there are often interesting discussions, but
it´s open i don´t know if i even want to think about ,,pab people"
Yakuzza Lethecus: @bleu
SophiaSharon Larnia: it is for PaB members Bluu, and giggles at the thought of 'PaB citizen', like on another planet
Bertram Jacobus: for me , it´s a sort of friendship with the group and
the intrests which appear here yaku. and i got apiece of land (!) ...
:-))
Agatha Macbeth: Is there such a thing as a 'PaB person'?
Calvino Rabeni: @agatha, good question
Agatha Macbeth: TY :)
TH Ordinary: is it a surprise when you meet at these retreats?
Yakuzza Lethecus:
http://playasbeing.wik.is/PaB_Retreats
--BELL--
SophiaSharon
Larnia: in my mind, no, just one willing to explore being during the 9
second micromeditations, just an openness to listen to others point of
view, and an openness to share, too.
Bertram Jacobus: very nicly summarised sophia ! thanks !
Agatha Macbeth: nods to Sophia
Calvino Rabeni: It is a question with several different right answers
SophiaSharon Larnia: nods
Agatha Macbeth: Mmm
Calvino Rabeni: I'd say, there are unspoken expectations which one conforms to or resists
Calvino Rabeni: And if you "behave" a certain way here that is different than other places,
Calvino Rabeni: does that indicate "trying to be a PAB person"?
Calvino Rabeni: Are there shared values?
Bertram Jacobus: and bleu : i think, when you like to accompany a pab
retreat ... you´ll have had "enough" contact to the group that you
could do so - i don´t think there "has to be" a membership - or ?
sophia ? am i wrong with that ?
Calvino Rabeni: It is an identity thing, we have lots of overlapping identities
SophiaSharon Larnia: i think you do have to be a guardian
Bertram Jacobus: hm - so we seem not to be sure ? don´t know ? :-)
SophiaSharon Larnia: HI Zen
Zen Arado: Hi all:)
Agatha Macbeth: Hi Zen :)
Bleu Oleander: yes, that's what I meant .... attended only by people that go to PaB
Bleu Oleander: you do need to be a guardian?
Zon Quar: zen
Yakuzza Lethecus: there are no fixed rules and what we say is speculative
Yakuzza Lethecus: but i am on bertrams side i guess nobody would say NO in your case :)
Bleu Oleander: it would be fun to go sometime
Yakuzza Lethecus: but it´s about pab in real life
Bleu Oleander: we took our group to Princeton and met Pema
Bleu Oleander: who encouraged us to get into SL and Kira
Bertram Jacobus: what is "your group", please, bleu ? :-)
Bleu Oleander: so we kinda went on the trip first
Bleu Oleander:
http://www.spiritofthesenses.org
Bertram Jacobus: ah. ty !
SophiaSharon Larnia: thank you Bleu :)
Bleu Oleander: we do salons in RL and now in SL
Bertram Jacobus: since 1983 (!) ...
Zen Arado: do they still have them in SL?
Bleu Oleander: yes
Bertram Jacobus: what does that mean - "salons" ? talks ? about special topics ? :-)
Yakuzza Lethecus: usually on a really uncomfortable time for any westeuropean, sadly
Agatha Macbeth: :)
Bleu Oleander: sorry about that
Bleu Oleander: time zones are tough
Zen Arado: ah yes - I went to one but the times of others were impossble for me
Bleu Oleander: our salons are conversations
Bertram Jacobus: ah. and the topics are given ? in advance ?
Bleu Oleander: yes
Zen Arado: did they have one about Plato's Cave?
Bertram Jacobus: ok :-)
TH Ordinary: yes
Bleu Oleander: yes, that was our first one Zen
TH Ordinary: ...in SL
Zen Arado: I went to that - was interesting
Bleu Oleander:
http://www.spiritofthesenses.org/secondlifesalon.htm
TH Ordinary: our second one was how can you know something you cannot see?
TH Ordinary: with a biologist
SophiaSharon Larnia: hmm
Bleu Oleander: what is the best time for western europeans?
Zon Quar: noon sl time
--BELL--
Yakuzza Lethecus: anyone did the practice ?
Calvino Rabeni: Yaku, I like to be reminded or held accountable on that regard
Bertram Jacobus: did ? when ? the 9 secs ? or the 90 ?
Calvino Rabeni: However in this case I did an IM instead :)
Calvino Rabeni: I am intending to be more "present" in general though!
Yakuzza Lethecus: nods
Yakuzza Lethecus: i also try to find different approaches like listening to lectures of kabat zinn on mindfullness
Zon Quar: who is he
Calvino Rabeni: The practical question I'm thinking of - quality vs
quantity in meeting here - if I attend often, I'm tempted to multitask,
but then feel less presence.
Yakuzza Lethecus: zon:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Kabat-Zinn
SophiaSharon Larnia: for me its the other way around, I'm more likely
to take the 9 sec in mylife more intensely when I attend often
Yakuzza Lethecus: to hard to explain him in own words
Agatha Macbeth: I think I have heard of him
Zon Quar: thx
Yakuzza Lethecus: nods sophia, i also try to reach that
Yakuzza Lethecus: pab is the only place i have and even know about these topics i truest
Yakuzza Lethecus: trust, since it doesn´t force anything in any specific direction
Agatha Macbeth: nods
Yakuzza Lethecus: even when it´s just general chat, but then we have our theme sessions :)
Bleu Oleander: how do we find out about the these sessions?
Yakuzza Lethecus: they are also announced on the pab homepage
Yakuzza Lethecus:
http://playasbeing.wik.is/PaB_Theme_Sessions
Bleu Oleander: is there a session for beginners?
Bleu Oleander: it might be helpful
SophiaSharon Larnia is lways a beginner
Calvino Rabeni: Good idea
Agatha Macbeth: Never too late to learn :)
Bertram Jacobus: there is a book title as zen mind - beginner mind .
and it says that always the beginner mind seems to be helpful . if i
understand correctly ...
Calvino Rabeni: Yes, it is a quality of mind
Calvino Rabeni: "shoshin"
SophiaSharon Larnia: starting over fresh withoutthe notions weve picked up the way
Yakuzza Lethecus: nabend wol
Wol Euler: hello all, sorry I'm late
Bertram Jacobus: hey wol ! ... :-)
SophiaSharon Larnia: Hi Wol
Agatha Macbeth: Hi Wol :))
Bleu Oleander: hi Wol
Magic Leimes: Hi Wol
TH Ordinary: hi!
--BELL--
SophiaSharon Larnia: bye all, see you later!
Wol Euler: bye sharon, take care
Agatha Macbeth: Bye SSL :)
Bertram Jacobus: okay - i´ll leave too - have a nice time all and ty for the talk ! :-)
Bleu Oleander: bye
Wol Euler: tschuss bert, schlaf gut
Agatha Macbeth: BFN Berti :)
Magic Leimes: bye everyone, take care
Bertram Jacobus: ty all again :-)) and cu ;-)
Bertram Jacobus: cu
Wol Euler: bye magic
Magic Leimes: thank you , bye
Wol Euler: looks like I came just in time
Agatha Macbeth: C ya Magic
Agatha Macbeth: (Hmm, musical too)
Calvino Rabeni: Wol comes in time for Round Two
Wol Euler: :)
Wol Euler walks around scantily clad, carrying a small sign.
Agatha Macbeth: As always :)
Wol Euler: true
Agatha Macbeth: ;-)
Calvino Rabeni: Nothing like a good spectacle
Bleu Oleander: we can't stay for round two. bye for now
TH Ordinary: thanks for the conversation!
Agatha Macbeth: Or even a good pair of spectacles
Bleu Oleander: nice seeing all of you
Wol Euler: bye blue, TH, take care
Calvino Rabeni: BFN !
Agatha Macbeth: Oh, bye Bleu and TH
Yakuzza Lethecus: bye th, bleu
Bleu Oleander: hey Yak have a great trip if i don't see you before you go
Yakuzza Lethecus: thx
Calvino Rabeni: Calvino Rabeni makes note to self - to clear a room, announce start of Round Two :)
Wol Euler: unless the room happens to be a bar.
Yakuzza Lethecus: right we could move to the bar
Wol Euler: we could!
Agatha Macbeth: Sure could :)
Yakuzza Lethecus: but would we ?
Wol Euler: a dilemma!
Agatha Macbeth: oooh philosophical :)
Wol Euler dithers indecisively.
Yakuzza Lethecus: it´s slicing my head in pieces
Agatha Macbeth: tosses a coin
Calvino Rabeni: Well, if you want to say things off the record, it's a good move
Agatha Macbeth: Do we want to say things off the record?
Calvino Rabeni: Unless Wol has a secret recorder there :)
Agatha Macbeth: Tell rude jokes?
Agatha Macbeth: She probably does :)
Calvino Rabeni: Naughty :)
Wol Euler: haaaa.
Agatha Macbeth: (Big Sister is listening....)
Wol Euler: but only for your own god
Wol Euler: *good
Agatha Macbeth: HaHaHa
Agatha Macbeth: Freud strikes again!
Calvino Rabeni: Is this a proposal, or a temptation?
Agatha Macbeth: Probably both
Calvino Rabeni: Often seen together, true
Yakuzza Lethecus takes out a stick to spank those whom are going to be naughty in order to preserve order
Agatha Macbeth: Oooh Yaku, your dominant side....
Wol Euler: "Beatings will continue until morale improves."
Calvino Rabeni: Preserve order? OR is it, suppress rebellion...
Yakuzza Lethecus: only in my theme session
Agatha Macbeth: :)
Yakuzza Lethecus: ähm
Yakuzza Lethecus: session
Calvino Rabeni: I see - Role-Play-As-Being
Agatha Macbeth: Sounds good Cal
Yakuzza Lethecus: theme session on naughtyness/sillyness/ and moral
Yakuzza Lethecus: onigokko
Wol Euler: oh, I disappoint myself.
Wol Euler: stop
Yakuzza Lethecus: stop
Wol Euler: onigokko
Zon Quar: hm
Wol Euler: there.
Zon Quar: strange ppl...
Wol Euler: true dat.
Yakuzza Lethecus: zon is sitting there like the master of all this :)
Wol Euler: only he can save us
Agatha Macbeth: He probably is
Zon Quar: but not too serious ones..i like that
Yakuzza Lethecus: say the magic word zon
Calvino Rabeni: Yes, we will do this until Zon says "stop"
--BELL--
Zon Quar: children must paly..
Agatha Macbeth: Down to you Zon
Zon Quar: its healthy
Zon Quar: but enough is enough
Agatha Macbeth: For whom?
Wol Euler: working off all that surplus energy.
Zen Arado: stop
Zon Quar: sotp
Wol Euler: :)
Agatha Macbeth: Sotp?
Zen Arado: sorry on phone
Wol Euler: Season of hte Porpoise?
Agatha Macbeth: I could have danced all night
Zon Quar: very delightful
Zon Quar: all balanced now ?
Agatha Macbeth: Kinda
Wol Euler is wondering how we'll recognize each other in Malta. Will there be nametags?
Agatha Macbeth: The locals will all be avoiding you....:)
Wol Euler: ah, that'll be the clue then.
Wol Euler: look for the other outcasts.
Agatha Macbeth: Or wear an orchid in your buttonhole?
Wol Euler: a rose between my teeth
Agatha Macbeth: (Ouch)
Wol Euler: de-thorned of course.
Agatha Macbeth: Mind the thorns
Wol Euler: snap
Agatha Macbeth: Uh huh :)
Agatha Macbeth: grins
Calvino Rabeni: Carry a red colored book in the left hand
Agatha Macbeth: Er...why exactly?
Calvino Rabeni: as a sign, of course
Wol Euler: :)
Agatha Macbeth: Ah, right
Calvino Rabeni: "How to Be"
Zon Quar: all that running around made me tired..yawns
Agatha Macbeth: But why a red book?
Wol Euler: "... and why"
Zon Quar: nite all...zzzzzzzzzzzz
Wol Euler: 'night zon, take care
Agatha Macbeth: Zon, you didn't run around!
Calvino Rabeni: something bright, to symbolize "play"
Agatha Macbeth: C ya ;-)
Calvino Rabeni: bye
Calvino Rabeni: And try to dress like your avatar :)
Wol Euler: oh, that would be tricky.
Wol Euler: fun, though!
Calvino Rabeni: SL as costume party
Agatha Macbeth: If the clothes will fit ;-)
Wol Euler: I could definitely do these boots in RL!
Calvino Rabeni: That's why there's spandex
Agatha Macbeth: There's always spandex!
Wol Euler: heheh
Agatha Macbeth: develops a hot flush
Zen Arado: what on earth was going on?
Zen Arado: I had a phone call sorry
Agatha Macbeth: Where? When?
Wol Euler: ah, it turned into a silly session for Part Two
Agatha Macbeth: As per usual
Wol Euler: *round two, sorry
Zen Arado: went to pub earlier but no one there
Agatha Macbeth: Bong!
Zen Arado: need to develop some regulars :)
Agatha Macbeth: We have no regulars?
Calvino Rabeni: Wol, can we get a teleport object from here to there?
Zen Arado: doesn't seem so
Zen Arado: and no barman
Wol Euler: probably
Calvino Rabeni: Serving the purpose of a mass exodus
Wol Euler: have to get Storm to place it...
Wol Euler: but yes, it would work
Calvino Rabeni: With a bells logo
Agatha Macbeth: Why not just walk?
Calvino Rabeni: RIght, I'm on a diet
Wol Euler: shall we?
Calvino Rabeni: How far is it, anyway?
Agatha Macbeth: Lets
Zen Arado: not far
Calvino Rabeni: OK
Calvino Rabeni: motion to adjourn
Calvino Rabeni: seconded
Wol Euler: just around the corner
Agatha Macbeth: Carried!