2010.01.23 01:00 - Moving day

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Scathach Rhiadra. The comments are by Scathach Rhiadra.

    Scathach Rhiadra: so, how are you today?
    Liza Deischer: still sleeping I'm afraid
    Scathach Rhiadra: heh, me too:))
    Liza Deischer: but I have this precious cup of coffee with me :-)
    Scathach Rhiadra: ah, tea for me!
    Liza Deischer: good for you
    Liza Deischer: I try to strat with tea too, but....
    Liza Deischer: Where you're from scath
    Scathach Rhiadra: Ireland
    Liza Deischer: ah, so it is even an hour earlier then here
    Liza Deischer: I'm Dutch
    Scathach Rhiadra nods
    Scathach Rhiadra: I just got out of bed about 10 minutes ago:)
    Liza Deischer: :-)
    Liza Deischer: half an hour
    Scathach Rhiadra: :)
    Scathach Rhiadra: Hello bertram
    Liza Deischer: hi bert
    Bertram Jacobus: hi and good morning :-)
    Liza Deischer: good morning
    Bertram Jacobus: how are you today ? :-)
    Scathach Rhiadra: ah, are you going to Malta Bertram?
    Bertram Jacobus: yess :-))
    Scathach Rhiadra: :))
    Liza Deischer: so you're leaving today?
    Bertram Jacobus: no - tomorrow
    Scathach Rhiadra nods
    Liza Deischer: okay
    Bertram Jacobus: today i´m still moving (haha) : all coming together at the moment, currently ... ;-)
    Scathach Rhiadra: moving apartment?
    Bertram Jacobus: yes - finally i can leave the old flat where i had that very "difficukt" neighbour (!) ...
    Liza Deischer: oh great
    Scathach Rhiadra: that is good news for you:)
    Liza Deischer: I now everything about difficult neighbours :-)
    Bertram Jacobus: yes. i´m very happy with that and it feels great (!) ...
    Bertram Jacobus: really ? i did not have any experience before with something like that - really strange ! (and sad) ...
    Liza Deischer: YEEEAAAAHH!!!
    Liza Deischer: well, I moved too, so no problems for me here either
    Scathach Rhiadra: :)
    Bertram Jacobus: hello bertrum :-)
    Liza Deischer: I eh.... did something I guess
    Scathach Rhiadra: Hello Bertrum
    Liza Deischer: Hi Bertrum
    Liza Deischer: but shouldn't you be packing at the moment?
    Bertrum Quan: Good morning everyone.
    Bertram Jacobus: yes, but it´s only a short break - in 20 minutes or so a friend will come to help me - then i have to go on ...
    Liza Deischer: okay
    Scathach Rhiadra: good evening Bertrum!
    Bertram Jacobus: liza ? what did you mean with "i did something i guess" ? :-)
    Liza Deischer: well, shall I do it again
    Liza Deischer: YEEEAAAAHH!!!
    Scathach Rhiadra: :) nice trick
    Liza Deischer: I didn't realise it was on :-)
    Scathach Rhiadra: is it something you wear?
    Liza Deischer: gesture
    Scathach Rhiadra: ah!
    Bertram Jacobus: ah - ty ! ;-)
    Scathach Rhiadra: and is there a shortcut keys for it
    Liza Deischer: YEEEAAAAHH!!!
    Liza Deischer: well as first word is obviously enough
    Liza Deischer: even as second word it works :-)
    Scathach Rhiadra: :)
    Liza Deischer: I need to be careful :-)
    Bertram Jacobus: you can change the triggering word if you like - you know ? ... ;-)
    Liza Deischer: or I get things like this ◕‿◕
    Bertram Jacobus: hi qt :-)
    Liza Deischer: yes I know
    Qt Core: hi all
    Bertram Jacobus: THEY are nice (the eyes) ... :-)
    Scathach Rhiadra: Hello Qt
    Bertrum Quan: Hi QT
    Liza Deischer: but I hardly use the word, so I forgot about it
    Bertram Jacobus: how do you get them ? :-)
    Liza Deischer: Hi QT
    Liza Deischer: sometimes from somebody or as freebie
    Liza Deischer: freebee
    Scathach Rhiadra: has anybody got something to discuss?
    Bertram Jacobus: i meant these ones . ◕‿◕ - they are freebies ?
    Scathach Rhiadra: a topic....?
    Liza Deischer: bert already has gone
    Scathach Rhiadra: so it seems:)
    Liza Deischer: I don't have a topic I'm afraid
    Bertram Jacobus: gone ? me ?
    Liza Deischer: sorry bert :-)
    Liza Deischer: that one somebody gave to me (reacting very late on a question of bert)
    Scathach Rhiadra: :)
    Liza Deischer: the strangest thing is that there are many topics you run into during the day
    Liza Deischer: but I seem to forget on moments like this
    Scathach Rhiadra nods
    Bertram Jacobus: hm - ty ;-)
    Scathach Rhiadra: a bit like meditation sometimes....
    Scathach Rhiadra: the mind can be full of thoughts, then you just sit down and take a deep breath, and they disappear
    Bertram Jacobus: nice ...
    Qt Core: not always so easy ;-)
    Liza Deischer: to me those are two different things
    Scathach Rhiadra: true, but sometimes without really trying
    Liza Deischer: meditation is not about forgetting
    Scathach Rhiadra nods it is about being present
    Bertram Jacobus: i quite often experience pauses in my life and - others seem not to have that . they get quite anxious then and say or do fastly something ...
    Liza Deischer: what do you mean with pauses?
    Bertram Jacobus: no thoughts, no intentions
    Liza Deischer: being aware of the moment or more like a dull moment
    Bertram Jacobus: aware
    Bertram Jacobus: enjoying
    Bertram Jacobus: very nice
    Bertram Jacobus: feels great, relaxing -
    Liza Deischer: sounds great
    Scathach Rhiadra: :)
    Bertram Jacobus: but currently, the heating in the new flat does not work *grmbl* ... ;o)
    Liza Deischer: hmmmm
    Liza Deischer: I'm wondering
    Liza Deischer: if you don't feel so relaxed
    Liza Deischer: or feeling cold :-)
    Liza Deischer: do you still have those moments?
    Bertram Jacobus: i use a fan heater then ;-)
    Liza Deischer: :-)
    Qt Core: there are some schools around here, from 4 to 14 that have the heating broken for the last week
    Liza Deischer: I ask, because I think there is a difference in feeling relaxed and enjoying yourself and being aware even when it gets rough
    Qt Core: and i heard about it on radio, the technicians said that as the heating machinery is too new they don't know what is going wrong!
    Bertram Jacobus: i think that can be different or can come together liza . i have in my mind regarding to this something from milarepa : he sings in one of his songs : even suffering is joy to me (!) ... :-)
    Scathach Rhiadra: mmm, I agree with Liza:)
    Bertram Jacobus: sry - my friend came - have to leave
    Liza Deischer: and Milarepa suffered a lot
    Liza Deischer: okay bert
    Qt Core: bye bert, have fun
    Liza Deischer: thanks and cu
    Scathach Rhiadra: bye Bertram, hope the move goes well
    Bertram Jacobus: ty - have a good time ! ty :-)
    Liza Deischer: If you take the 90 sec. it works really well
    Liza Deischer: there is some 'silence' coming in
    Scathach Rhiadra nods
    Liza Deischer: (without being silent)
    Liza Deischer: inmy head I mean
    Qt Core: sometimes it feel the opposite for me, quieter inside and louder outside in the 90 sec (or similar pause) as i (we ?) usually listen only to what is needed to go on with current activities and not all the noises around
    Liza Deischer: yes, we block out things we here when we get silent, I agree
    Liza Deischer: here =hear
    Liza Deischer: silent and aware
    Liza Deischer: sometimes that can be overwhelming :-)
    Scathach Rhiadra: I must go now, have a good weekend Liza and Qt:)
    Qt Core: bye scath
    Liza Deischer: likewise
    Scathach Rhiadra: Namasté
    Qt Core: same here, have a great day then
    Liza Deischer: bye
    Liza Deischer: cu QT
    Liza Deischer: gone

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