2010.01.31 08:00 - Guardian Session: San Francisco ReTweet

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    There were 13 guardians present for today's first post-Malta meeting: Arabella, Calvino, Doug, Eliza, Fael, Genesis, Maxine, Pema, Riddle, Steve, Widget, Wol, and Yakuzza. :)

    The session naturally focuses on retreat topics, and begins with reflections from Wol, Pema, and Arabella.

    -Eliza, who apologizes for this title... ha


    Wol Euler: hello maxine, nice to see you again
    Maxine Walden: hi, Wol, very nice to see you and everyone. Thinking a lot about you retreaters and hear it was a wonderful experience
    Pema Pera: We just heard a marvellous description of the Malta retreat, from Wol
    Wol Euler: indeed :)
    Maxine Walden: ah, will look forward to reading the log
    Riddle Sideways: hI eVERYbODY
    doug Sosa: :)
    arabella Ella: Hiya Riddle
    Wol Euler: hello riddle
    Wol Euler: and hello steve, didn't see you earlier
    stevenaia Michinaga: :) hello wol, always a pleasure to see you again
    Wol Euler beams
    Fael Illyar: meep meep! :)
    Pema Pera: one thing that struck me in Wol's report of the retreat was how comfortable we all were with each other from day one, hour one really -- the same happened in the previous two retreats, in California in August and in Princeton in November
    Fael Illyar: I think I would've been surprised if I'd heard that it had been different for other retreats :)
    Maxine Walden: the level of comfort, even intimacy possible perhaps is wonderful
    stevenaia Michinaga: is there a link to the Retreat Reports Pema?
    Pema Pera: it's consistent, but also quite different, I felt, in each retreat
    Wol Euler: http://playasbeing.wik.is/PaB_Retreats/2010-01_Malta/2010-Malta-Accounts
    Wol Euler: and future sub-pages
    Pema Pera: and then there will be ten PaB sessions with reports by the ten attendants -- we just had Wol's one, and mine will be coming up in five hours
    Pema Pera: see http://playasbeing.wik.is/PaB_Theme_Sessions
    Riddle Sideways: oh that is very nice for those of us not able to get there
    Wol Euler: we'll each present our experience of the retreat, then two weeks after that a kind of post-mortem
    Wol Euler: suggested by Yaku
    arabella Ella: anyone who wishes could hear ten different perspectives on the Malta retreat during the week and a final one with all of us present after 4 weeks
    Pema Pera: on February 27, 1 pm (-> Wol)
    Widget Whiteberry finds this very agreeable
    Wol Euler: where we talk about how (whether) we were able to incorporate what happened at the retreat into our lives and practices
    arabella Ella: yes

    California dreaming...

    Pema Pera: meanwhile, you're all welcome to come to the next retreat, in San Francisco, in late April!
    Pema Pera: April 18-24
    Pema Pera: that will have a different flavor: it will be an "urban retreat"
    Pema Pera: right in the heart of San Francisco
    Widget Whiteberry: oh!
    Pema Pera: we'll see how we can integrate our more meditative exploration with busy city life
    Pema Pera: meeting in cafes, etc :-)
    Pema Pera: walking through parks
    Pema Pera: riding trolley busses
    Wol Euler smiles.
    Widget Whiteberry: There is a major Zen Center there
    Widget Whiteberry: and Green Gulch is just over the Golden Gate Bridge
    Pema Pera: yes, there are several centers, for many different traditions
    Pema Pera is wondering what a "silent day" in an urban retreat will look like
    Wol Euler: :)
    Pema Pera: everybody reading the newspaper in the cafe??
    Riddle Sideways: ah the great religious center "little Italy" where I worship Pasta
    Eliza Madrigal: :)))
    Maxine Walden: ...will sound like?
    Fael Illyar laughs.

    Silence shines a spotlight on chit-chat...

    Pema Pera: the challenge will be perhaps to refrain from chit chat . . . MUCH harder than not speaking at all !
    Pema Pera: like dieting being harder than giving up (smoking, drinking, etc)
    Fael Illyar: can you define what is chit chat? :)
    Pema Pera: no
    Wol Euler: but you know it when you feel yourself about to say it :)
    Wol Euler: at least, I learned that during hte silent day.
    Pema Pera: but we can collectively experiment with meaningful speech
    Wol Euler: I was surprised and upset how much of what I felt like saying was pure "filler"
    Pema Pera: learning to find your own inner compass
    Maxine Walden: perhaps chit chat in this context might be to become swept up in the noise of the surrounding everyday city
    Pema Pera: one option: think for two seconds before saying the sentence that was on the tip of your tongue
    Wol Euler nods.
    Pema Pera: like typing here -- deciding whether to hit return
    Pema Pera: or just let it go
    Maxine Walden: rather than hold space for inner discourse to emerge
    Pema Pera visualizing a group of PaBers in a cafe, each with a beermat with "return" printed on it
    Wol Euler: oh, that's an idea. Give out sentence tokens :) 10 per day
    Wol Euler: to speak a sentence, you have to give up a token.
    Pema Pera: if you go over your quota, you buy a round
    Wol Euler: and then be silent
    Maxine Walden: :))
    Widget Whiteberry: perhaps should be a word token rather than a sentence token
    Widget Whiteberry: kind of like twitter
    Pema Pera: :-)
    Wol Euler: :)
    Riddle Sideways: hmmm both dieting and chit chat have the serious problem of when to keep month shut
    Widget Whiteberry: lol
    Pema Pera: hahaha
    Widget Whiteberry recalls twitterchat
    Wol Euler: :)
    Fael Illyar smiles.
    Pema Pera wondering about taking a course in ventriloquism (?)
    Wol Euler laughs.

    Suggestions for urban retreating...

    Pema Pera: but seriously, what suggestions does everyone have for an "urban retreat"? It will be a totally new experience!
    Calvino Rabeni: I suggest outdoor meditation in a noisy setting
    stevenaia Michinaga: inner silence is easy when you have RL silence, I suspect it will take a bit more effort to see that silence in the city
    Widget Whiteberry: long walks
    arabella Ella: lovely parks for meditating
    Widget Whiteberry: tour parks and coffee houses?
    doug Sosa: where will be home central in SF?
    arabella Ella: perhaps a PaB flash mob?
    stevenaia Michinaga: or busy street corners
    Eliza Madrigal: poetry club... night dancing ...
    Wol Euler: heheheh
    Pema Pera: a hotel somewhere, Doug
    Eliza Madrigal giggles @Ara
    Pema Pera: we're about to try to reserve a block of rooms
    Widget Whiteberry: look south of market
    Pema Pera: hehehe
    Maxine Walden: I would suggest mining the experience from Malta as one source of suggestion...but also consider what pressures toward 'chit chat' or getting into the busyness of the outer city...consider these pressures might help to discern the inner from the outer
    Riddle Sideways: long noisey up the hily streets walking meditations
    Widget Whiteberry: there may still be some funky hotels
    doug Sosa: anything atthe presidio?
    Calvino Rabeni: Probably don't want to "do San Francisco"
    Widget Whiteberry: no hotels there
    Pema Pera: if anyone has a suggestion for a reasonably priced yet not "too" funky hotel, please IM or email me (piet@ias.edu)
    Maxine Walden: actually I think the Presedio might have some 'retreat' possibilities, if I recall from a few years ago
    Widget Whiteberry: Pema, I'll ask around
    Calvino Rabeni: Yes, check Presidio
    Widget Whiteberry: how big a block of rooms?
    Pema Pera: we'll have to see how many people come
    Pema Pera: typically we have about ten
    Widget Whiteberry nods
    Pema Pera: so far, ten +- two
    stevenaia Michinaga: there is a sort of Playgota ain Japantown
    Pema Pera: hahaha
    stevenaia Michinaga: not sure if it's meeting worthy

    PlayasBeing on Tour ...

    Pema Pera imagines having a PaB lemonade stand in a corner of a park . . . .
    Wol Euler: Being in a bun.
    Maxine Walden: meditation, 5 cents
    Pema Pera: we could in principle combine an urban retreat with a kind of outreach event (*not* on the silent day :-)
    Wol Euler: though silent outreach would be quite an inspiring challenge.
    Pema Pera: have a PaB panel discussion at one of the cafes there
    Pema Pera: any suggestions?
    Widget Whiteberry rummages in her memory banks
    stevenaia Michinaga: http://www.sfjapantown.org/UserFiles/Image/Templates/banner_rates_index_4.jpg
    Riddle Sideways: San Francisco is a city where anything goes
    Pema Pera: again, sent me an IM or email, if you have a suggestion
    Maxine Walden: if there is a serious wish for outreach, perhaps some forward publicity targetting possilbly interested folks might be something to consider; that would take a lot of planning and specific times, places, etc....might be more daunting that we could do at this time
    Pema Pera: well, if it would be just in a cafe where people sometimes have authors, etc, speak, it might not take much preparation
    Pema Pera: there must be many places like that in San Francisco
    Maxine Walden: that might be more in the spirit of PaB, I agree, Pema
    arabella Ella: or a bookstore perahps
    Pema Pera: it could be quite inspiring, for the group as well as for the others
    Pema Pera: to talk directly spontaneously from the base of the group's atmosphere!
    Pema Pera: quite a nice challenge
    Maxine Walden: not sure if City Lights Bookstore...famous in the past, at least in fantasy, still exists
    doug Sosa: yes, but no space.
    Calvino Rabeni: A tip for that - find a venue that does "open mic" spoken word events
    Pema Pera: (how to find that?)
    Maxine Walden: it would be impressive to "talk directly spontaneously from the base of the group's atmosphere" as Pema has just suggested; that could be very moving for everyone
    Pema Pera: and might further strengthen the group too -- not as an intrusion, but rather a challenge to share even more broadly
    Widget Whiteberry: http://www.exuberance.com/docs/openmic/
    Pema Pera: wow, Widget hit the pot of gold !!
    Maxine Walden: yes, nice link, Widget
    Pema Pera: great list of places to meet too, during that week, in general
    Fael Illyar: sounds quite interesting, that :)
    Riddle Sideways: bringing our little sessions into a public urban populated event is not what is usually named retreat
    Widget Whiteberry: If Hotel Utah is still a hotel, it's worth checking out
    Riddle Sideways: it is more an extent
    Calvino Rabeni: http://www.bayareaopenmics.com/index.php?regionRef=1
    Widget Whiteberry: as a home base
    Widget Whiteberry: and I agree with Riddle
    arabella Ella: trying to find out where people congregate during their lunch breaks could also be an opportunity ... as they do in parks in london when the weather is good for example ... perhaps this is also the case in SF
    Pema Pera: we can change the name, Riddle :-)
    Pema Pera: just "treat" perhaps?
    arabella Ella: it could be just a part of the retreat ... would not happen throughout
    Widget Whiteberry: outreach is not what would draw me to a retreat
    Widget Whiteberry: what draws me is all of you
    Wol Euler smiles.
    Pema Pera: yes, it would be less than 10% of the time -- the rest would be retreat
    Widget Whiteberry: if 10 of us sat in a circle in the middle of say, golden gate park, we would draw some interest from passers by
    Pema Pera: as for hotel Utah: http://www.bayareaopenmics.com/venue.php?venueRef=2&dayRef=1&regionRef=1
    Pema Pera: yes, very much like in SL !

    Our international Five Bells Cat...

    Pema Pera: thank you all for so many great suggestions! Does anyone wants to bring up a different topic, perhaps?
    Eliza Madrigal would just like to thank those who filled in for sessions, and remind everyone to keep giving ideas for the name of the 5 Bells cat :)
    Widget Whiteberry: what would be Italian or German for '5 bells'?
    Widget Whiteberry: or?
    Wol Euler: Fünf Glocken
    arabella Ella: cinque campane
    arabella Ella: (italian)
    Pema Pera: for short: funglock
    Widget Whiteberry: lol
    Widget Whiteberry: at this rate, well have names ready for the first litter
    Fael Illyar smiles.
    Pema Pera: hahaha
    Wol Euler: hehehehe
    Widget Whiteberry slips away
    Wol Euler: bye widget
    arabella Ella: i must go too i hope to be back for Pema's session later :)
    arabella Ella: bye for now
    Wol Euler: bye ara
    Maxine Walden: bey ara
    Riddle Sideways: yes, me too, bye all
    Eliza Madrigal: Yes, seems the meeting is winding down naturally :) Thanks, Everyone
    Wol Euler: bye riddle
    Pema Pera: bye Arabella!
    stevenaia Michinaga: leaving to
    doug Sosa: bye
    Wol Euler: well, shall we wrap up?
    Wol Euler: bye riddle, doug
    Pema Pera: sure
    Maxine Walden: yes, see you all soon, I hope
    Calvino Rabeni: Calvino Rabeni joins mass exodus too
    Wol Euler: bye all, see you at 1pm
    Pema Pera: yes, in four hours :-)
    Fael Illyar: meep meep :)

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