2010.02.07 08:00 - Guardian Session: 5 "Bella"s and a Tip Jar

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    This week's lively guardian session was attended by 11 guardians: Arabella, Calvino, Eliza, Fael, Pema, Riddle, Storm, Widget, Wol, Yakuzza, and Zen. We started off with two agenda items: 1. Naming the Cat, and 2. Fundraising.

    We spent 10 minutes on greetings and the idea of a welcome center, 40 minutes on cat naming, and 10 minutes discussing PlayasBeing fundraising. :) 

    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Pema, Calvino, Ya :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Calvino, I just noticed your guardian spot in more detail.... very nice the way you have little teleports to the pavillion, etc
    Pema Pera: Hi Everybody!
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi again Fael and Widget :)
    Fael Illyar: Hi Everyone :)
    Pema Pera: Ah, a tourist information center, Calvino?
    Calvino Rabeni: Hello all
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Calvino Rabeni: I put a couple of teleport pose balls there for easy travel
    Eliza Madrigal: It is a very good idea actually!
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Zen :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hey zen
    Zen Arado: Hi all :)
    Pema Pera: indeed! And in fact it would be good to have some sort of general welcome center, for all of PaB
    Eliza Madrigal: hmm, nods
    Fael Illyar: Yes, that would be a good idea :)
    Calvino Rabeni: Yes, that would be hospitable and fun]
    Fael Illyar: Hi Riddle :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Riddle :)
    Riddle Sideways: Hi AlL
    Zen Arado: Hi Riddle
    Widget Whiteberry: a staffed welcome center?
    Widget Whiteberry: how about the pub?
    Widget Whiteberry thinks* she's kidding
    Pema Pera: perhaps we need a slightly bigger space than the pub?
    Eliza Madrigal: I may be enough just to have additional teleports/notecards at a few places in the village....
    Pema Pera: it could be nearby of course
    Widget Whiteberry: maybe a slideshow and notecard giver
    Eliza Madrigal nods :)
    Calvino Rabeni: a few visible attractive features, a greeter cardgiver bot?
    Eliza Madrigal: I'm never sure what I think of the bots....
    Pema Pera is thinking about a building with a trapdoor to drop your "self" . . . . .
    Widget Whiteberry: The cat?
    Widget Whiteberry: lol, Pema
    Zen Arado: :)
    Eliza Madrigal giggles
    Riddle Sideways: but, no 90 meter billboard in the sky :)
    arabella Ella: Hiya
    Eliza Madrigal: Hiya Ara :)
    Pema Pera: Hi Ara!Snapshot_112.jpg
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hey ara,zen
    Zen Arado: a teleporter to the various locations would be nice
    Yakuzza Lethecus: ähm riddle
    Fael Illyar: 90 meter billboard in the sky sounds nice :)
    Zen Arado: Hi Ara
    Eliza Madrigal: hahaha... only if it is more like an open field....
    Fael Illyar: Hi Ara :)
    Calvino Rabeni: An archway - "drop self, all who enter here" - oops, that just goes too far :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Really cute glasses :)
    arabella Ella: thanks!
    Eliza Madrigal: haha Calvino
    Eliza Madrigal: "Abandon self, all who enter here"
    Eliza Madrigal: Oh My
    Zen Arado: :)
    Pema Pera: a map with "you've always already been here"
    Calvino Rabeni: Maps are fun, that could work
    Eliza Madrigal: haha.... as long as it doesn't say "If you lived here you'd be home right now"
    Pema Pera: hehehe
    Pema Pera: or "you're home right now" for short?
    Riddle Sideways: hmmmm, a sightseeing map of Being
    Calvino Rabeni: Yes, with sights to appreciate along the way
    Calvino Rabeni: Favorites and hotspots, like "ego", "objects" , etc.
    Riddle Sideways: "Being slept here once..."
    Pema Pera: hahaha
    Eliza Madrigal: :)))
    Fael Illyar smiles.
    Pema Pera: "to See is to Be"
    arabella Ella: what lovely wings Eliza ... and Fael too!
    Fael Illyar beams happily.
    Eliza Madrigal: Thank you Ara :)
    Zen Arado: yes
    Zen Arado: gorgeous colors
    Widget Whiteberry: http://www.flickr.com/photos/7855449@N02/3158864420/
    Fael Illyar: Hi Storm :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Storm :)
    arabella Ella: Hiya Storm
    Widget Whiteberry: another kind of map
    Zen Arado: Hi Storm:)
    Calvino Rabeni: "Being's greatest hits" ... a diorama with Being as a giant dinosaur... a variety of displays along the "pathway", with lots of "you are here" signs. The pathless path.
    Eliza Madrigal: hahaha Widget
    Storm Nordwind sleepily says "Gi"
    Eliza Madrigal: mapless nature of maps
    Zen Arado: with mynah birds squawking 'pay attention' a la Huxley?
    arabella Ella: 'can't buy you Love ... just Be'
    Pema Pera: :)
    arabella Ella: or Let it Be

    Naming the Five Bells Cat!

    Eliza Madrigal conjurs Maxine... "Shall we bring up guardian topics?"
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Zen Arado: :)
    Pema Pera: shall we move on to the cat naming ceremony?
    Zen Arado: more serious matter :)
    Fael Illyar votes for 'Meep!'
    Eliza Madrigal: hahah
    Widget Whiteberry: meep!
    Riddle Sideways: Meep!
    Zen Arado: feline identity crisis again
    Widget Whiteberry wonders if the cat is Dom or sub
    Widget Whiteberry: Meep or meep
    Zen Arado: Dom of course
    Storm Nordwind rolls his eyes
    Zen Arado: it is a cat !
    Widget Whiteberry: and we are it's staff
    Zen Arado: of course :)
    Storm Nordwind: as per usual
    Eliza Madrigal: or as purrr usual
    Zen Arado: it's carers

    :) Sleepy Storm finds himself in the middle of one...

    Pema Pera: Storm, have you envisioned a way to herd the cat namers?
    arabella Ella: I agree with meep
    Fael Illyar smiles.
    arabella Ella: :)
    Storm Nordwind: Well we had a whole bunch of suggestions on the email list
    Storm Nordwind: and some who can't be here have cast proxies
    Storm Nordwind sleepily looks around at who is here
    arabella Ella: do you have the latest proxy count Storm?
    Calvino Rabeni: Idea, storm says "cast your vote now" - everyone IM's storm with their name vote
    Widget Whiteberry suddenly wishes she had made coffee
    Storm Nordwind: That will be good enough Cal. Thank you for the idea. Let's do that
    Fael Illyar: ok, when do we start? :)
    Pema Pera: can you remind us of the choices?
    Pema Pera: first?
    Storm Nordwind: Right now please
    Pema Pera: okay
    Storm Nordwind: OK the choices...
    Pema Pera: (can alts throw votes too? one alt one vote??)
    Storm Nordwind: We had Being, Beir, Bella, Bodhiguard, Fiver, Lila, Mehitabel, Schrödinger, Sleepy, Snoozy, Spark plug plus we've just had Meep and there's also Bell
    Storm Nordwind: Bad Pema.
    Widget Whiteberry fires up the additonal clients
    Pema Pera: and pentabel
    Eliza Madrigal: Oh, last guardian meeting Pema threw out Pentabell, too
    arabella Ella: do you have the present voting situation Storm please?
    arabella Ella: (to see which favs are so far)
    Widget Whiteberry: we might have both a formal and nick name
    Storm Nordwind: Thank you Eliza
    Storm Nordwind: True Widget - if she responds to that :)
    Eliza Madrigal voted already... "Bella"... simple, pretty
    Widget Whiteberry nods gravely
    Fael Illyar: Hi Wol :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Wol :) You're just in time to name the cat!
    arabella Ella: Hiya Wol
    Wol Euler: if the doors would open ...
    Zen Arado: I used secret Storm ballot :)
    Widget Whiteberry: cam in and sit

    Wol arrives in time to vote, we have controversies, various attempts at humor, and at least one run-off ...

    Wol Euler whispers: sorry I'm late
    Zen Arado: Hi Wol
    Widget Whiteberry: perfect timing, Wol
    Fael Illyar: Yep :)
    Storm Nordwind: Anyone else not wanting to abstain? :)
    Fael Illyar: [8:20] Storm Nordwind: We had Being, Beir, Bella, Bodhiguard, Fiver, Lila, Mehitabel, Schrödinger, Sleepy, Snoozy, Spark plug plus we've just had Meep and there's also Bell
    Fael Illyar: [8:20] Eliza Madrigal: Oh, last guardian meeting Pema threw out Pentabell, too
    Widget Whiteberry: Wol, IM your choice to Storm
    arabella Ella: do we have a second round of voting if there is a draw Storm?
    Wol Euler: ok
    Widget Whiteberry considers instant run off voting
    Storm Nordwind: The counting is underway... it's very very close
    Wol Euler: :)
    Pema Pera: :)
    Wol Euler: the tension mounts ...
    Storm Nordwind: no ... no bribes please
    arabella Ella holds her breath in suspense ...
    Eliza Madrigal offers bribe....
    Eliza Madrigal giggles
    Riddle Sideways: need best three of seven
    Storm Nordwind: the counting officer is of impeccable integrity
    Widget Whiteberry offers cookies
    Pema Pera: any chads?
    Fael Illyar offers a happy meep!
    Eliza Madrigal: hahah
    Zen Arado: :)
    Riddle Sideways: filled with An Tici pation
    Wol Euler: recount!
    Storm Nordwind: a recount has been called...
    Wol Euler: O.O
    Storm Nordwind: meanwhile we will play you some boring music
    Eliza Madrigal: o.O
    Warm Cookie whispers:  OMG... YUMMMMMMY
    Pema Pera: do we have a Supreme PaB Court?
    Wol Euler: I'm sure we can buy one somewhere...
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Storm Nordwind: No Pema... but we have a supreme cat
    Eliza Madrigal: badump bump

    Storm Nordwind: We have three main finishers
    Riddle Sideways: drum roll
    Storm Nordwind: two of them have three votes
    arabella Ella: could we say we have a proxy for those who are not here?
    Widget Whiteberry: a narrowed field
    Widget Whiteberry: but no great consensus
    Storm Nordwind has recorded the email proxy votes too
    Storm Nordwind: we have one with four votes
    arabella Ella: personal proxy i mean :)
    Eliza Madrigal leans in
    Storm Nordwind: Of the leadership pack...
    Storm Nordwind: Meep has three votes
    Storm Nordwind: Mehitabel has three votes
    Storm Nordwind: Bella has four votes
    Fael Illyar smiles.
    Storm Nordwind: Everything else has a single vote
    Calvino Rabeni: It's Bella by a nose!
    Pema Pera wonders whether Mehitabella would be a compromise . . . .
    Storm Nordwind: by a whisker
    Wol Euler: too close to call
    Calvino Rabeni: or a whisker
    Riddle Sideways: then I switch my vote to kitty
    Eliza Madrigal: hehehe
    Pema Pera: runoff?
    Storm Nordwind: ooh noo...
    Pema Pera: hehehe
    Wol Euler laughs.
    Calvino Rabeni: Or "Both / And" - how's that for a name :)

    We think we are 'there', but >gasp<, a turn...

    Storm Nordwind: a late vote...
    Storm Nordwind: Both Methitabel and Bella now have four votes
    Riddle Sideways: who late voted
    Widget Whiteberry serves cookies and Turkish coffee
    Pema Pera: or a complete consensus for "Mehitabella Meep"
    Storm Nordwind: We have a tie
    Storm Nordwind: If we have a runoff between Methitabel and Bella, the proxies will fall away sadly
    Wol Euler: how many people voted in total, storm?
    arabella Ella: i suggest we have a runoff with the ppl present here with the top three names
    Fael Illyar: or more like, how many proxies?
    Storm Nordwind: 12 voted in total
    arabella Ella: after all we were asked to be present to choose the name
    Wol Euler: well, total - 11 = proxies
    Wol Euler: so one person not present voted?
    Pema Pera: did Storm vote?
    Storm Nordwind: hmm...
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    arabella Ella giggles at Storm's apparent confusion
    Riddle Sideways: how many votes do we each get?
    Storm Nordwind only just woke up
    arabella Ella: ah
    Storm Nordwind smacks Riddle
    Chocolate Fudge Cone : Dark chocolate chips in rich fudge, Fael Illyar, a favorite !
    Storm Nordwind: I only have 9IM votes from people here. Though I think Eliza voted in open chat
    Eliza Madrigal: yes, because I'd already openly voted in email :)
    Pema Pera: the plot thickens . . . .
    Widget Whiteberry: Storm, did you vote?
    Pema Pera: if you send an IM too, Eliza, you get three votes!!
    Wol Euler: confusion reigns.
    Eliza Madrigal: haahha
    Fael Illyar voted 'Meep!'
    Storm Nordwind: I did. I will just count them again. None is lost.
    arabella Ella: voted meep too
    Storm Nordwind: Ah... RL coffee is arriving, that will help
    Eliza Madrigal hopes the cat thrives in confusion and chaos
    Wol Euler: :)

    arabella Ella anticipates a loud roll of drums ...
    Fael Illyar: do we have a runoff going?
    Riddle Sideways: are we re-voting / runoff?
    Pema Pera: the only thing that is certain right now is that Storm is drinking coffee in RL . . . .
    arabella Ella: would be a good idea
    Pema Pera: all else follows
    arabella Ella: pass on some coffee Storm please
    Storm Nordwind: I have votes from Wol. Zen, Fael, Cal, Pema, Riddle, Ara, Widget, me, Eliza, Mark and Eden. Anyone missed out please?
    arabella Ella: Yaku?
    Yakuzza Lethecus: no
    Wol Euler: was "no" one of the candidate names?
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i like road runner, meep meep would be fine tho :)
    Storm Nordwind: That's why I was confused. No vote from the man in black
    Zen Arado: :)
    arabella Ella: yeaaaaa Yaku!!!
    Widget Whiteberry: I think we closed the candidate list Yak
    Fael Illyar meeps happily!
    Wol Euler: so it's now four each for Meep, Mehitabel and Bella?
    Zen Arado: double meep doesn't count for meep though?
    arabella Ella: of course it does
    arabella Ella: just like kitty kitty would count
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hehe, single meep is fine :)
    Widget Whiteberry: that's up to Yak
    Zen Arado: ah ok just calrifying :)

    The meeps have it?  But wait, there's more...

    arabella Ella: :)
    Pema Pera: Yak Yak has spoken!
    Widget Whiteberry: lol lol
    Fael Illyar: meep meep! :)
    Storm Nordwind chuckles
    Riddle Sideways: silly silly silly silly silly silly silly silly silly silly silly silly
    Pema Pera suspects that some of us are imbibing something else than coffee . . . .
    Storm Nordwind: I've a someone clarify their vote too...
    Eliza Madrigal hears herself introducing the cat... "This is our pet Meep"


    Storm Nordwind: and guess what...
    Eliza Madrigal: what
    Riddle Sideways: rofl
    Eliza Madrigal: hahaha Yakuzza....
    Wol Euler laughs.
    Fael Illyar smiles.
    Storm Nordwind: It's still 3 for Meep (meep meep doesn't count as 6)
    Eliza Madrigal: hehehe
    Eliza Madrigal: sigh
    Pema Pera: ?
    arabella Ella: Yaku clarified didnt he?
    Storm Nordwind: We have two leaders: Bella and Mehitabel
    Yakuzza Lethecus: single meep is fine i said
    Storm Nordwind: equal votes
    Fael Illyar: I guess Yak needs to vote "meep" explicitly for it to count? :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: yes
    arabella Ella: see?
    Pema Pera: don't we have four meeps now?
    Storm Nordwind: no
    Wol Euler: oh!
    Riddle Sideways: is this one of those REALITY shows where it takes all hour of drama to get the results?
    arabella Ella: yes
    Zen Arado: meep miscount?
    Storm Nordwind: we had a meep miscount
    Eliza Madrigal: Seems so Riddle

    arabella Ella: if there were three meeps there must be four now?
    Storm Nordwind: the meeper is now mehitabelling
    Wol Euler: aaaah
    Pema Pera: 3+2-1=3
    Widget Whiteberry: this is really a great demo of the value of instant run off voting
    Wol Euler: :)
    Pema Pera quietly counting meeps
    Eliza Madrigal: hehehe
    Storm Nordwind: shut up Pema! :)
    Wol Euler: can we agree that there are three very clear favourites?
    arabella Ella: yes
    Storm Nordwind: yes
    Wol Euler: and have a second round among them?
    arabella Ella: yes
    Fael Illyar: yes :)
    Storm Nordwind: those are my thoughts Wol
    Widget Whiteberry: do we offer the absent friends a vote?
    Riddle Sideways: no
    Wol Euler: ok, then let storm clear his desk and we'll re-IM
    Pema Pera: only if we reach a draw?
    Wol Euler: agreed
    Storm Nordwind: We can't unless they voted for one of the three
    Pema Pera: which three names now?
    Storm Nordwind: Meep, Mehitabel, Bella
    arabella Ella: just tell us when to go with our votes Storm
    arabella Ella: perhaps it would be easier to vote here in chat?
    arabella Ella: more transparent
    Storm Nordwind: Right now please - and by IM only please
    arabella Ella: oh

    We fire away at Storm again...

    Eliza Madrigal is exhausted
    Storm Nordwind: me too Eliza!
    Zen Arado: catatonia ensues
    Storm Nordwind: still waiting for zen and cal
    Eliza Madrigal: the cat which can not be named is...
    Eliza Madrigal: the eternal cat
    Storm Nordwind: ok all votes in
    Eliza Madrigal listens closely
    Calvino Rabeni: :) Eliza
    Riddle Sideways: Maxine is going to be missing this
    arabella Ella: ... and the winner is ... drum roll ...
    Storm Nordwind: some people changed their votes!
    arabella Ella: they could i guess
    Wol Euler grins.
    Pema Pera: of course, that's the whole point of a run off!
    Riddle Sideways: of course
    Pema Pera: you can't hide but you can run
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Wol Euler: heheh
    arabella Ella: why have a mind if you can't change it
    Pema Pera: hahaha
    Zen Arado: huh facile affiliations
    Riddle Sideways: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: you can change your mind, and you can change your nose...
    Eliza Madrigal: oh, nevermind
    Zen Arado: too easily swayed

    Tada! The Five Bells cat gets Five rings!

    Storm Nordwind: We now have 3 Mehitabels
    Wol Euler: awwww :(
    Storm Nordwind: 4 Meeps
    Zen Arado: at least I was cocsistent
    Storm Nordwind: 5 Bellas
    Zen Arado: yay
    Eliza Madrigal: How perfect! 5!
    Zen Arado: we won!
    Pema Pera: go, Bella!
    Wol Euler concedes defeat gracefully.
    Fael Illyar smiles.
    Calvino Rabeni: How very pythagorean
    Yakuzza Lethecus: arg, vamireadmiring teenage girlnames won the vote
    Riddle Sideways: so "5 Bellas" = PentaBella
    arabella Ella: but we are 11 not 12 here?
    Zen Arado: wild excitement
    Eliza Madrigal: It was a good run... nice campaign....
    Wol Euler: O.O
    Pema Pera: :-)
    Wol Euler: woh voted twice?
    Storm Nordwind: Eos's proxy vote is included as it was one of the Big Three
    Wol Euler: ah, ok
    Eliza Madrigal: Yes, Riddle! :))

    Calvino tries to start more trouble... hehe...

    Calvino Rabeni: OK! Now that that is settled, how about a companion for our feline friend?
    Calvino Rabeni: Pub dog?
    Pema Pera: a lemming?
    Widget Whiteberry: Cockroach?
    Pema Pera: or two?
    Eliza Madrigal throws things at Calvino
    Wol Euler: cockroach?
    Calvino Rabeni: Calvino Rabeni ducks
    Fael Illyar: a rabbit?
    Zen Arado: a mouse obviously
    Pema Pera: Mehitabel, Wol
    Storm Nordwind: Any companion needs to be called "Kibble"
    arabella Ella: a bird named meep?

    AHEM. :) There was another item to be discussed...

    Eliza Madrigal: Actually, shall we bring up fundraising ... just briefly? It was the second agenda item.....
    Riddle Sideways: Please have the next campaign in email, because I love my mail box to overflow like it has
    Wol Euler votes for Kibble
    Zen Arado: plays cat and mouse game
    Pema Pera: yes, Eilza
    Pema Pera: the idea was to talk about options for fund raising
    Calvino Rabeni: Nine minutes to resolve the budget :)
    Pema Pera: and basically there are three options,
    Pema Pera: given the following question:
    Pema Pera: what to do with the fact that the target of our fund raising is currently much higher than what we raise
    Pema Pera: see the web site: http://playasbeing.wik.is/Donations
    Pema Pera: (the two grey boxes at the top right)
    Pema Pera: option 1) lower the target
    Pema Pera: option 2) try to raise more money
    Pema Pera: 3) something altogether different
    Pema Pera: we don't have much time left
    Pema Pera: if somebody has a bright idea right away (or a question), please go ahead
    Pema Pera: and then we can start with this discussion next week

    Widget makes a suggestion, many chime in, and the discussion is carried over for next week!

    Widget Whiteberry: I have a thought
    Pema Pera: background: this is such a central issue, the Working Group did not want to come up with a specific recommendation, but would prefer to hear from you all)
    Pema Pera: yes, Widget?
    Widget Whiteberry: Hobo Island raises it's tier money from tips
    Widget Whiteberry: jars are placed around the island
    Widget Whiteberry: we have 4 events a day
    Fael Illyar: a donate jar or two on PaB/Kira lands could be a good idea.
    Fael Illyar: especially meeting places.
    arabella Ella: yes a great idea i agree
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah, that's true, many communities do this...
    Pema Pera: how may dollars do you think we get a day?
    Zen Arado: tips raise so little though
    Widget Whiteberry: it would be a stream of income, likely not large
    Pema Pera: our current target requirese $70 dollars a day . . . .
    arabella Ella: and for the moment we could combine both a and b ... lower target and try to raise more funds ... see how it goes
    Pema Pera: can't imagine that to be raised by tips
    Widget Whiteberry: that's if we expect to raise all money from tips
    Storm Nordwind: = L$18,200 a day
    Fael Illyar: if you have the tip jars show the current budget situation, it most likely helps
    Zen Arado: it is such a huge sum
    Eliza Madrigal: Oh wow, yes... that's unrealistic from 'tips'.. thanks for the # Storm
    Pema Pera: do you know, Widget, how much your example brings in per day?
    Riddle Sideways: tip jars combined with notecard info about us
    Fael Illyar: plus, quite a few SL users are much more comfortable paying through SL.
    Pema Pera: more than L$ 1,000?
    Widget Whiteberry: Tip jars are a partial solution, but hmm
    Widget Whiteberry: let me think
    Fael Illyar: tip jars with floating text that updates based on the situation
    Zen Arado: if 50 guardians donated $50 each it would still only be $2500
    Pema Pera: we don't have 50 guardians visiting each day . . . .
    Fael Illyar: having people know about it is more important than actually receiving tips through the jars.
    Widget Whiteberry: tip jars are only an income stream
    Zen Arado: just as an example
    Fael Illyar: each 90 days
    Eliza Madrigal: Hm, there is something to be said for reminders....
    Pema Pera: it may help raise the consciousness that something needs to be paid, that would be an advantage yes
    Fael Illyar: tip jars keep people informed in a non-intrusive way
    Pema Pera: we could do it as an experiment
    Pema Pera: though I must say I have mixed feelings about it
    Fael Illyar: misgivings?
    Pema Pera: I'm equally divided between keeping it all open and free and maximally inviting, and asking for money
    Zen Arado: only thing is ppl donate $L100 and think that is plenty
    Wol Euler nods to zen
    Eliza Madrigal nods, maybe try it, while placing main focus on other things perhaps...
    Widget Whiteberry: allowing people several ways to contribute does not seem inhospitable to me
    Pema Pera: can someone reminds me how it works: can everybody in the group see how much somebody gives, when they tip?
    Widget Whiteberry: no Pema
    Wol Euler: not necessarily
    Widget Whiteberry: not necessarily
    Pema Pera: I would prefer to keep it anonymous
    Widget Whiteberry grins at Wol
    Wol Euler: :)
    Pema Pera: in order not to put pressure on people to give
    Fael Illyar: the tip jar can be reasonably loud about it when someone donated
    Widget Whiteberry: yes to anonymous
    Storm Nordwind: We can choose who sees what. According to the scripting
    Eliza Madrigal: it doesn't always *have* to specify a name, nods
    Pema Pera: well, we have at least one concrete suggestion; shall we discuss this next week, when we get started?
    Fael Illyar: and anyone donating with a loud tip jar, usually is followed by another donation
    Pema Pera: it's 9 am, I realize
    Wol Euler: we could "encourage" larger tips by setting buttons on the payment dialog, say 100 250 500 1000
    Wol Euler: as well as the text entry field
    Eliza Madrigal: It would say "L500 donated last"/ L3000 so far" that kind of thing
    Wol Euler: mmmhmm
    Eliza Madrigal: OK, yes I have to get going.....
    Calvino Rabeni: Tips can be made fun in various ways creatively
    Pema Pera: me too
    Calvino Rabeni: it can help a little
    Eliza Madrigal: If someone would send me the rest of the chat log if you linger, I'd appreciate it!
    Wol Euler: shall I do that then? make a prototype tip jar?
    Fael Illyar: Have fun Pema, Eliza :)
    Storm Nordwind: it's completely open. The script can make it say anything we want, including what the target is for day/week etc, and it can give fireworks or a gentle glow for different size contributions!

    Pema Pera: bye everybody!

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