2010.02.17 13:00 - Through the Hawk Eye

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Fefonz Quan. The comments are by Fefonz Quan.

    Wol Euler: ah, fef made it after all!
    Wol Euler: hello bert
    Bertram Jacobus: hey everybody - fef ! wol ... :-)
    Liza Deischer: hi all
    Wol Euler: helo liza
    Bertram Jacobus: hi lizy ...
    Bertram Jacobus: sry. liza
    Liza Deischer: :-)
    Wol Euler: hello bolo
    Bolonath Crystal: namaste :)
    Bertram Jacobus: hey bolonath :-)
    Liza Deischer: hi bolo
    Liza Deischer: I see Fef made it today
    Liza Deischer: not
    Wol Euler: :)
    Wol Euler: the only certainty is uncertainty :)
    Bolonath Crystal: that's certain
    Liza Deischer: cna't be,must be uncertain
    Bolonath Crystal: :D
    Wol Euler: well, for certain values of "certain"
    Liza Deischer: I need to chew on that one :-)
    Bolonath Crystal: i see you have been visiting pandora, bert. hope you didn't open any boxes there :)
    Wol Euler: :)
    Wol Euler: wb fef, hello agatha
    Fefonz Quan: Hello all :)
    Bolonath Crystal: namaste agatha and fef
    Liza Deischer: well you never know if it comes to certanty
    Agatha Macbeth: Hi Wol, BOlo
    Liza Deischer: wb fef, hi Agatha
    Agatha Macbeth: Hi everyone else
    Bertram Jacobus: hehe. that is SO cool there bolo ! is from the film avatar - like to see my avatar from there ? :-)
    Bolonath Crystal: sure :)
    Wol Euler: please
    Fefonz Quan: fdsfds
    Wol Euler nods to Fef.
    Liza Deischer: :-)
    Bertram Jacobus: they are REALLY tall ...
    Bolonath Crystal: wow
    Bolonath Crystal: the tail suits you :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Hello blue boy :)
    Fefonz Quan: Hi Bert
    Bertram Jacobus: i'll have an more elaborated one i guess ... it's such a nice area there ...
    Bertram Jacobus: 4 sims ...
    Bertram Jacobus: hey fef ! :-))
    Bolonath Crystal: that really looks authentical, bert
    Bertram Jacobus: ty - was only a short demo ...
    Agatha Macbeth: Short and to the point ;-)
    Liza Deischer: hi Sophia
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hi everyone :)
    Fefonz Quan: hi sophia
    Bolonath Crystal: namaste sophia
    Agatha Macbeth: Hi SSL :)
    Wol Euler: hello sharon
    Bertram Jacobus: authentical ? in which way ? :o)
    Bertram Jacobus: hello sophia :-)
    Bolonath Crystal: it looks very pandoranous, bert :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Just don't open the box
    Liza Deischer: hi Tarmel
    Wol Euler: hello tarmel
    Bolonath Crystal: namaste tarmel
    Agatha Macbeth: G'day Tarm
    Tarmel Udimo: Hi Folks
    SophiaSharon Larnia: Hi tarmel
    Tarmel Udimo: let me turn off my translator:)
    Liza Deischer: please do :-)
    Bertram Jacobus: hi tarmel
    Fefonz Quan: hey Tarmel!
    Bertram Jacobus: and - you saw the movie bolo ?
    Bolonath Crystal: i did
    SophiaSharon Larnia: whoops have to go sorry all! bye
    Bolonath Crystal: awesome film :)
    Tarmel Udimo: Hi there all and big hello to Fefonz who I haven't seen in months:)
    Liza Deischer: bye Sophia
    Bolonath Crystal: bye sophia
    Fefonz Quan: bye SSL
    Tarmel Udimo: bye
    Fefonz Quan: yep! (to tarmel).
    Wol Euler: bye sharon
    Tarmel Udimo: grinsssssssss
    Bertram Jacobus: wonderful bolonath ! :-))
    Fefonz Quan: you were missed on the last retreat tarmel (at least on my behalf)
    Tarmel Udimo: oh tks fefonz
    Tarmel Udimo: I would have liked to be there but alas I didn't win the lotto:)
    Wol Euler: :)
    Tarmel Udimo: I am going to try for Germany though
    Bolonath Crystal: me 2. that should work without lotto
    Wol Euler: great!
    Fefonz Quan: nice!
    Tarmel Udimo: hehehe
    Fefonz Quan: you should organize one on your homeland
    Tarmel Udimo: I have thought of this, but it is so far for people to come
    Agatha Macbeth: They could swim
    Wol Euler: :)
    Tarmel Udimo: hehehe yes exactly
    Bolonath Crystal: where are you staying, tarmel?
    Tarmel Udimo: in Australia
    Bolonath Crystal: oh, thats far, yes
    Agatha Macbeth: Strewth
    Tarmel Udimo: hehehe
    Tarmel Udimo: I hope I didn't disturb the topic:)
    Agatha Macbeth: Is there one?
    Bolonath Crystal: which topic? ;)
    Tarmel Udimo: ahh ok:)))))))
    Bolonath Crystal: did anyone start fasting today?
    Bertram Jacobus: not me. you ? :-)
    Wol Euler: nope
    Bolonath Crystal: no
    Tarmel Udimo: Fasting... why?
    Bolonath Crystal: christian tradition
    Fefonz Quan: so you can eat only fast food? :)
    Agatha Macbeth: groans
    Bolonath Crystal: lol
    Tarmel Udimo: :)
    Tarmel Udimo: which day is it Bolonath?
    Bolonath Crystal: ash wednesday
    Tarmel Udimo: ahhh
    Bertram Jacobus: fast means in german nearly . so the words fast food are very true in german ... ;-)
    Wol Euler: :)
    Fefonz Quan: oh, right.
    Tarmel Udimo: and what is the meaning of Ash wednesdday again ( I confess i Have forgotten)
    Bolonath Crystal: any christians around?
    Wol Euler: only nominally
    Agatha Macbeth: Not me, I'm catholic
    Agatha Macbeth: :)
    Tarmel Udimo: ex catholic:)
    Wol Euler: "Ash Wednesday derives its name from the practice of placing ashes on the foreheads of adherents as a sign of repentance. The ashes used are typically gathered after the Palm Crosses from the previous year's Palm Sunday are burned. "
    Bolonath Crystal: wiki says, it remains of jesus' fasting for 40 days in the desert
    Agatha Macbeth: There you go...
    Tarmel Udimo: ahhh
    Agatha Macbeth: What?
    Tarmel Udimo: nothing wrong with a bit of fasting
    Agatha Macbeth: Or a bit of slowing
    Bolonath Crystal: physiologically the spring is the best season for fasting
    Wol Euler: hello eliza
    Tarmel Udimo: yes this is true I think
    Agatha Macbeth: Hi Eliza :)
    Fefonz Quan: we have a fast day in the automn
    Tarmel Udimo: Hi Eliza
    Liza Deischer: i elia
    Liza Deischer: eliza
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Bolo, Wol, Tarmel, Bert, Liza, Agatha, Fef :)
    Bolonath Crystal: namaste eliza
    Eliza Madrigal: Agatha, you are so warm and fuzzy :))
    Agatha Macbeth: As always dear ;-)
    Fefonz Quan: hi Eliza
    Tarmel Udimo: and what's that for fefonz? the fast in Autumn
    Bertram Jacobus: sry. late reaction : hi eliza :-) ...
    Agatha Macbeth: (looks like everyone's reading email again)
    Bertram Jacobus: everyone ?
    Wol Euler: :)
    Bolonath Crystal: i'm not
    Agatha Macbeth: Good boy Bolo :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Not reading email here... running to charge daughter's camera battery :)
    Bolonath Crystal: (looking at agatha's outfit *g*)
    Agatha Macbeth: Hurry Eliza!
    Agatha Macbeth: Eh?
    Eliza Madrigal: I feel like I got caught
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Hold the front page...
    Fefonz Quan: whos reading what?
    Bertram Jacobus: local chat here now :o)
    Agatha Macbeth: You're quick tonight Fonz :0
    Fefonz Quan: bad connection agatha :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Yup
    Agatha Macbeth: Had a few of those myself ;-)
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Fefonz Quan: where are all these hearts coming from?
    Agatha Macbeth: Me :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Agatha is emanating
    Agatha Macbeth: Can't beat a good emanate :)
    Agatha Macbeth: MN8?
    Fefonz Quan: ah, cool
    Agatha Macbeth: Blame fael :)
    Tarmel Udimo: Ok folks I just dropped in to say hello, and i must run, but it was good to see you all
    Wol Euler: bye tarmel, have a nice day
    Agatha Macbeth: C ya Tarm :)
    Bolonath Crystal: om shanti, tarmel
    Eliza Madrigal: Bye Tarmel :)
    Liza Deischer: bye Tarmel
    Fefonz Quan: great seeing you Tarmel!
    Bertram Jacobus: bye tarmel
    Liza Deischer: need to go too
    Tarmel Udimo: bfn
    Liza Deischer: cu all
    Bertram Jacobus: bye liza
    Bolonath Crystal: bye liza
    Eliza Madrigal: Bye Liza :)
    Fefonz Quan: bye liza
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh, Liza's gone
    Eliza Madrigal: Were you all talking about fasting when I arrived? Because of Ash Wednesday?
    Bolonath Crystal: right
    Agatha Macbeth: Kinda
    Bolonath Crystal: but nobody fasts
    Agatha Macbeth: Personally why any sane human being would wish to starve themselves was always beyond me
    Eliza Madrigal: I used to fast, not for a particular day, but just as a thing to do... seemed to help me figure out things somehow. Then it became a kind of formula to resort to.. so dropped it
    Eliza Madrigal: but I get why people do it. Sometimes people do it to remind themselves of people being hungry in the world, too...
    Agatha Macbeth: nods
    Eliza Madrigal: Now fasting causes me to run to the fridge
    Eliza Madrigal: heheh
    Agatha Macbeth: :)
    Bolonath Crystal: for me fasting was an interesting experience. i'll do it again someday
    Eliza Madrigal: How long of a fast, Bolo?
    Bolonath Crystal: 5 days only
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah, that's quite a while
    Bolonath Crystal: there are many different ways of fasting
    Eliza Madrigal nods.. true
    Bolonath Crystal: e.g. eat everything exept meat, eat only during the night, eat nothing...
    Fefonz Quan: I will leave quitely, good to see you all here
    Eliza Madrigal: Bye Fef. Sorry you've had so much trouble with your internet today
    Bolonath Crystal: cu fef
    Wol Euler: bye fef
    Bertram Jacobus: bye fef *waves quietly* ... ;-)
    Agatha Macbeth: Nite Fonzie
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Fefonz Quan: yes i had eliza, hope it'll be better next times. i am really sorry for missing the unlogable tsk meetings
    Eliza Madrigal: Oh and today was quite a ride anyway!
    Agatha Macbeth: Tsk tsk!
    Fefonz Quan: _/!\_
    Eliza Madrigal: _/!\_
    Fefonz Quan: ?
    Eliza Madrigal: moving from place to place as the sims reset
    Eliza Madrigal: You were missed tho
    Agatha Macbeth: (Is he going or what?)
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah
    Eliza Madrigal: lagging lingers
    Agatha Macbeth: Sure does
    Eliza Madrigal: :) Sophia has talked about fasting too Bolo. I think that is not eating during the day mostly... set times
    Wol Euler: during Ramadan, yes. As I understand, people are allowed to eat during the hours of darkness
    Bolonath Crystal: yes
    Eliza Madrigal: Ahh
    Agatha Macbeth: Think I will go too. Be careful out there
    Bertram Jacobus: bye agatha
    Wol Euler: :)
    Bolonath Crystal: christian fasting is somewhat different
    Wol Euler: showing your age, my dear.
    Bolonath Crystal: bye agatha
    Eliza Madrigal: Bye Atatha
    Eliza Madrigal: On Fridays in MIami if you want seafood you'd better get to the restaurant early :)
    Eliza Madrigal: I'm surprised at how many observe that restriction. Not really one I understand come to think of it...
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Calvino
    Bolonath Crystal: namaste cal
    Wol Euler: hello calvino
    Calvino Rabeni: _/!\_
    Calvino Rabeni: A session with quality, yes :)
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: I have to get going, though. My daughter has an event tonight, so I will spend the next 30 minutes blowdrying hair :)
    Wol Euler: :)
    Bolonath Crystal: om shanti, eliza
    Wol Euler: nice
    Bertram Jacobus: bye eliza ...
    Wol Euler: bye eliza, take care
    Eliza Madrigal: Have a wonderful evening / day/ etc, all :) Om Shanti :))
    Calvino Rabeni: Dry and fluffy
    Bertram Jacobus: i'm always late today : hi cal ;-)
    Wol Euler: are you distracted, Bert?
    Fael Illyar: Hi Everyone :)
    Bolonath Crystal: namaste fael
    Wol Euler: hello fael
    Bertram Jacobus: hey fael ! ... :-)
    Calvino Rabeni: Anyone for tea? :)
    Bertram Jacobus: no. ty. enough here ... althoug ... as a gift ? should not say no, no ? ;-)
    Bolonath Crystal: i have to go... have a good day, om shanti
    Bertram Jacobus: bye bolo
    Wol Euler: bye bolo, take care
    Calvino Rabeni: It's a sunny day - flowering trees in bloom - they got the memo
    Wol Euler smiles
    Calvino Rabeni: global warming looks good today :)
    Wol Euler: I did a good deed today, and had a bit of interspecies contact :)
    Bertram Jacobus: interspecies !? :-)
    Wol Euler: Persuaded a hawk that had got trapped between a wire fence and a thorn bush to free itself.
    Wol Euler: Ever seen a hawk up close? They're huge.
    Wol Euler: Beautiful and vicious
    Calvino Rabeni: yes, muscular
    Wol Euler: it was caught where the bush grew out over a downward slope against the fence, at the end of a garden
    Wol Euler: I couldn't figure out why it didn't just back up and walk out, so I stood and looked at it for a while
    Wol Euler: and it looked back :)
    Bertram Jacobus: did it come free ?
    Wol Euler: I realized that birds can't back up, their feathers are too delicate
    Wol Euler: they have to go forwards
    Wol Euler: and their way to solve problems is by flying from them. They start to fly by jumping - forward
    Wol Euler: the hawk didn't want to go into the dark under the bush, so he kept jumping against hte fence
    Wol Euler: trying to move away from me, I went right so he went left :)
    Wol Euler: I figured out that I could move him around by positioning myself, as liontamers do.
    Wol Euler: and I eventually got him turned halfway around
    Wol Euler: then stepped up very close to the fence, making him walk into the dark under the bush to get away from me
    Wol Euler: I stepped closer still (but not right up to the fence, his beak and claws could have got through the mesh)
    Wol Euler: and he walked forward until he was clear of the bush, and free.
    Wol Euler: I stepped far back then, and stood still to let him rest.
    Bertram Jacobus: what a nice story and experience ! :-)
    Wol Euler: after a few seconds, he shook himself out and flew off to a treetop.
    Wol Euler: it was a real APAPB moment
    Wol Euler: I saw the world through his eyes, and understood it differently
    Calvino Rabeni: :)
    Bertram Jacobus: how nice ! ty for sharing it and congrats having experienced that wol ! ... :-)
    Wol Euler smiles. Yes, it's the high point of the month so far.
    Bertram Jacobus: i see such experiences as gifts of life ...
    Bertram Jacobus: and am happy if they happen
    Bertram Jacobus: the tibetans often name such omen ...
    Wol Euler nods
    Bertram Jacobus: i like this kind of view
    Wol Euler: it felt a bit like that, as though a door had opened between two normally separate realms
    Bertram Jacobus: in this case, would mean that better times occure
    Wol Euler: ah :)
    Bertram Jacobus: :-)
    Calvino Rabeni: I had the same thing with a small ordinary dog yesterday
    Bertram Jacobus: haha ! similarities ... and so nice ones ! :-)
    Fael Illyar: I have been meeping with my gerbils quite a bit :)
    Wol Euler smiles.
    Bertram Jacobus: gerbils ! lol - in german wüstenrennmäuse ! :o)
    Bertram Jacobus: do they run through deserts ?
    Bertram Jacobus: (thats what the german word says)
    Wol Euler: heheheheheh
    Wol Euler: well I never knew that :)
    Fael Illyar: they live in a plastic box in my bedroom :)
    Bertram Jacobus: with sand
    Bertram Jacobus: ?
    Fael Illyar: not sand actually :)
    Fael Illyar: it's the byproduct from a sawmill. what was that called in English?
    Wol Euler: wood chips
    Bertram Jacobus: i know what you mean
    Wol Euler: or sawdust if very fine
    Fael Illyar: sawdust
    Fael Illyar: no danger at all of hurting your hand with it
    Bertram Jacobus: lol oke
    Bertram Jacobus: i think ... i'll leave now ... tyvm all for the talks and sessions here ! ...
    Wol Euler: goodngiht bert, take care
    Bertram Jacobus: i'll try to
    Wol Euler: :)
    Bertram Jacobus: may all beings be happy, please
    Fael Illyar: Have fun Bert :)
    Bertram Jacobus: and namasté ...
    Wol Euler: well, my dears, I should be going. Stuff to do before I go to bed tonight.
    Wol Euler: take care, be happy.
    Calvino Rabeni: _/!\_
    Fael Illyar: Well, have fun Cal :)
    Calvino Rabeni: bye Fael
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