2010.02.23 19:00 - always misinterpreted distraction

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Eos Amaterasu. The comments are by Eos Amaterasu.

    Eos Amaterasu: Session claimed
    Eos Amaterasu: Hi Archmage
    Archmage Atlantis: Hello Eos
    Eos Amaterasu: How's life?
    Archmage Atlantis: May I use naughty language?
    Eos Amaterasu: Well, just remember this is being logged to the wiki
    Eos Amaterasu: Hi Paradise
    Paradise Tennant: lol managed to sit on the roof instead of the cushion I am sleepy!
    Paradise Tennant: hiya eos arch !
    Archmage Atlantis: Pk, then a euphemism
    Archmage Atlantis: Hi , Paradise....nice to see you after so long (in my relativistic universe of course)
    Paradise Tennant: smiles nice to see you too arch :) been a while :)
    Paradise Tennant: how are you :)
    Archmage Atlantis: Yes, I have been on a journey
    Eos Amaterasu listens
    Archmage Atlantis: It was a journey of the mind.......not so easy to detail.....often would require questioning
    Eos Amaterasu: How is it now?
    Archmage Atlantis: Not done
    Eos Amaterasu: Is that okay?


    Benedizione Vita: hello everyone
    Paradise Tennant: smiles hiya bene
    Eos Amaterasu: Hi Bene
    Archmage Atlantis: Greeting
    Benedizione Vita: whats poppin this evening?

    Eos Amaterasu: I really appreciated that 90 seconds. It's been a very busy day.
    Eos Amaterasu: The busyness was all there, but also let go
    Paradise Tennant: same here .. nice to be still :)
    Eos Amaterasu: in the 90 secs
    Eos Amaterasu: or 900
    Eos Amaterasu: What was your experience, Arch?
    Archmage Atlantis: Nice to feel your lives, in the many seconds
    Paradise Tennant: yes arch !
    Eos Amaterasu: :-)
    Benedizione Vita: oh my, yes, life does tick by each second
    Benedizione Vita: it is a tremendous challenge, the appreciation of time
    Eos Amaterasu: Can you say more, Benedizione?
    Benedizione Vita: No
    Eos Amaterasu: :-)

    Archmage Atlantis: Today the pest control guy accepted my old fish tank for his son.......lot's of irony there
    Benedizione Vita: irony?
    Archmage Atlantis: What is life, and what is pest?
    Benedizione Vita: fish vs. cockroach, you mean?

    Paradise Tennant: on a happy note .. eos :) I heard from godwin over the weekend re the dog in malta .. speaking of life :) and pest being me !
    Eos Amaterasu: Wow, really
    Eos Amaterasu: ?
    Paradise Tennant: He has managed to negotiate with the hunter to come every morning to let the dog out and only put him back in that concrete bunker at night to sleep really
    Paradise Tennant: good news!
    Paradise Tennant: lol going to tell my buddhist class aspiration works !
    Eos Amaterasu wonders about the negotiation
    Paradise Tennant: well took a long time apparently godwin is a mediator by trade :) so well equiped I suspect for difficult situations
    Eos Amaterasu: your karma is now interlaced with Malta
    Paradise Tennant: but very happy news for the dog .. really was like a doggie concentration camp :)
    Paradise Tennant: lol
    Paradise Tennant: yes
    Archmage Atlantis: So true Eos, so true
    Paradise Tennant: nice thinking of him running in the field not cooped up in the dark and dirt :)

    Eos Amaterasu: How's the t-shirts going? :-)
    Paradise Tennant: she is working on them
    Paradise Tennant: they will be free to share
    Paradise Tennant: with a lily and the verse did you want any other sympbols ?
    Eos Amaterasu: Great idea!
    Eos Amaterasu can't forget the almond cookies :-)
    Paradise Tennant: hmm so you want a picture of the almond cookie too!
    Paradise Tennant: lol
    Paradise Tennant: don't think anyone took one
    Paradise Tennant: i suppose we could fudge it ..lol sorry very bad pun
    Eos Amaterasu: I used to get those in Halifax years ago, actually
    Paradise Tennant: listens
    Eos Amaterasu wonders if Paradise is listening to him
    Paradise Tennant: lol
    Eos Amaterasu: :-)
    Paradise Tennant: yes waiting for more .. on the almond cookie ..
    Paradise Tennant: smiles


    Paradise Tennant: seem to striked a deep resonance with all there
    Paradise Tennant: wb arch
    Paradise Tennant: :)
    Eos Amaterasu: stevenaia always does exercises when he arrives
    stevenaia Michinaga: :)
    Archmage Atlantis: Hello all, Steven
    Paradise Tennant: hiya steve
    stevenaia Michinaga: evening all
    stevenaia Michinaga: more sleet here, more snow on thursday, darn that groundhog
    Paradise Tennant: lol can never trust rodents!
    Paradise Tennant: smiles
    Paradise Tennant: very snowy here too .. wet slushy snow and lots of it
    Eos Amaterasu: groundhog is also confused by the weather
    stevenaia Michinaga: but a great movie
    Eos Amaterasu: we'll be getting lots of rain next few days
    Paradise Tennant: yes a wonderful movie!
    Eos Amaterasu: but a great movie
    stevenaia Michinaga: didn;t mean to distract the group,
    stevenaia Michinaga: what was that topic?
    Paradise Tennant: pastry
    stevenaia Michinaga: :)
    Benedizione Vita: delicious :)
    Benedizione Vita: I'm going to go get some food haha
    Benedizione Vita: goodnight, all
    Eos Amaterasu: night
    Paradise Tennant: goodnite bene
    Paradise Tennant: we were reminiscing on almond cookies

    Eos Amaterasu: Paradise, any further reflections on post-retreat?
    Archmage Atlantis: Actually one can trust rodents.......they always follow the route to staying alive........it's humans that are tricky
    Paradise Tennant: hmm yes was going to do a write up and insert it into the log if I ever find it
    Paradise Tennant: smiles at arch
    Paradise Tennant: blinks ... perhaps the most remarkable element was how well everyone got along
    Paradise Tennant: there was ease and harmony .. at the get go
    Paradise Tennant: very relaxed
    Paradise Tennant: and very complementary .. the interaction I found to be progressive
    Eos Amaterasu: Do you think that was due to having had SL contact first?
    Paradise Tennant: bridging building kind of communication
    Archmage Atlantis: When make muffins, I follow the chemistry of what creates them
    Paradise Tennant: yes
    Paradise Tennant: baking .. is all good!
    Paradise Tennant: I do think it is amazing how well you can get to know someone in sl without ever having met them in rl but meeting them in rl .. also adds understanding
    Archmage Atlantis: Last time I had apples and red rice in them
    Eos Amaterasu: following the chemistry of what creates us?
    Archmage Atlantis: People liked them
    Paradise Tennant: they sound yummy
    Archmage Atlantis: but wanted what was familiar
    Eos Amaterasu: Yes, I think in a way people were exfoliating further, disclosing more and richer aspects of themselves
    Eos Amaterasu: the RL dimension is pretty deep
    Paradise Tennant: smiles .. exfoliation always makes me think of how much sand the dog brings into the bed smiles a different kind of exfoliation :)
    Eos Amaterasu feels the grit
    Paradise Tennant: well he goes to the beach every day - grit happens
    Paradise Tennant: smiles
    Eos Amaterasu: heh heh
    stevenaia Michinaga: he
    stevenaia Michinaga: heh
    Eos Amaterasu: More bumper stickers I have seen: shit happens;   nothing happens
    Paradise Tennant: in a way .. I felt I could see more of the person in rl by knowing them in sl
    Paradise Tennant: lol
    Paradise Tennant: great bumper stickers
    stevenaia Michinaga: I friend who will be teaching a class on avatar tld me an interesting story abut her SL experience
    Archmage Atlantis: Things do happen Eos....it is slow sometimes
    stevenaia Michinaga: she has a friend with Asbergers who has problems reading "body language"
    stevenaia Michinaga: a problem that does not exist in Sl


    Paradise Tennant: yes ... works very well for high level autistics too have a friend who finds it much easier to interreact in sl than in rl
    stevenaia Michinaga: sl the communications is devoid of that "always misinterpreted distraction"
    Paradise Tennant: yes
    Eos Amaterasu: what is the "always misinterpreted distraction"?
    stevenaia Michinaga: showed me the diferences people have in communicating here
    stevenaia Michinaga: body language is the distraction
    Archmage Atlantis: That is a brilliant question, Steve
    Archmage Atlantis: I face it with Fael daily
    Eos Amaterasu: ah, less body language in SL, so easier
    stevenaia Michinaga: if someone cannot interpret my "rolling eyes" at the mentioning of someone else, the humor (or insult) is lost

    Paradise Tennant: it was wol I think who said typos are sl's body language

    stevenaia Michinaga: yes so much of that is communication many of us have no problem understanding
    Paradise Tennant: smiles
    stevenaia Michinaga: (IN RL)
    Eos Amaterasu: great observation
    Paradise Tennant: and it is so much slower
    Paradise Tennant: typing versus talking
    Eos Amaterasu: more pauses
    Paradise Tennant: someone said writing makes for an exact man
    Eos Amaterasu: but also more multi-threading in the conversations
    Paradise Tennant: forget who but it is true
    Paradise Tennant: yes there are skips and jumps
    Eos Amaterasu: weaves and spirals
    stevenaia Michinaga: and lovely pauses here that would be uncomfortable in RL
    Paradise Tennant: really likes being quiet in company .. there is something about shared stillness that is very appealing

    Eos Amaterasu: yes.... thinking of the Malta RL retreat, sense of no agenda for the time period created a kind of suspension quality
    Paradise Tennant: yes !
    Eos Amaterasu: like a long 90secs within which a lot happened
    Paradise Tennant: was very open
    stevenaia Michinaga: it does wonderful things with time
    Eos Amaterasu: are you finding that that carries along more now in RL?
    stevenaia Michinaga: 90 seconds can be too long, 15 minutes can be too short
    stevenaia Michinaga: (in RL)
    Eos Amaterasu: the media is afraid of pauses
    Eos Amaterasu: air time
    Calvino Rabeni: Like drinking - 1 is too many, 3 is not enough
    Eos Amaterasu: hang time
    stevenaia Michinaga: not sure they are allowed
    stevenaia Michinaga: lol, yes Cal
    Paradise Tennant: hmm I stopped and ran the pictures as a slide show on my computer at work this morning .. was impressed by how vividly I remembered the little details

    stevenaia Michinaga: you saying we are time-a-holics
    Eos Amaterasu: we are next-a-holics

    Calvino Rabeni: In media, to keep a grip on our attention
    Calvino Rabeni: In conversation, it is the idea of "productivity" or "time is money"
    Calvino Rabeni: basically, a feature of industrialism
    Calvino Rabeni: We are "productivity-a-holics" perhaps?
    Eos Amaterasu: interesting, the feeling of "well being" has a suspension quality, like a droplet of honey
    Calvino Rabeni: Nice of you to point out that quality
    Calvino Rabeni: Eos, I've noticed you often have a good sense of qualities
    Eos Amaterasu: qualites...? as in sense qualities? or characterizations?
    Calvino Rabeni: Qualities are a great thing - a dimension of experience that is not quantitative
    Eos Amaterasu: I'm actually an analog guy deep down :-)
    Calvino Rabeni: In a way, I think the experienced world splits on that - subjective experience is about quality - objective experience (things) is about quantity and number
    Calvino Rabeni: Perhaps this is because - no one has figured out how to measure Quality

    Archmage Atlantis: Ich bin ein Berliner........is that quantitative, or quatlitavve?
    Eos Amaterasu: the ein is qualitative
    Calvino Rabeni: It is probably qualitative


    Paradise Tennant: smiles and waves a quiet qualitative good by .. sneaking out to walk the dog who is very quantitative about his numbers of walks in a day
    Eos Amaterasu: wow - bye!
    Paradise Tennant: namaste everyone !
    stevenaia Michinaga: I must be off, night all
    Eos Amaterasu: like a fish in the mediterranean
    Eos Amaterasu: good night for me too, bye arch and cal!
    Calvino Rabeni: Good night eos
    Archmage Atlantis: I invite you ro my island againcal, your choice
    Calvino Rabeni: Hmm, in the digital age, we can look at the quantity of "quality" - aren't words handy )
    Calvino Rabeni:
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