2010.02.23 19:00 - always misinterpreted distraction

The Guardian for this meeting was Eos Amaterasu. The comments are by Eos Amaterasu.

Eos Amaterasu: Session claimed
Eos Amaterasu: Hi Archmage
Archmage Atlantis: Hello Eos
Eos Amaterasu: How's life?
Archmage Atlantis: May I use naughty language?
Eos Amaterasu: Well, just remember this is being logged to the wiki
Eos Amaterasu: Hi Paradise
Paradise Tennant: lol managed to sit on the roof instead of the cushion I am sleepy!
Paradise Tennant: hiya eos arch !
Archmage Atlantis: Pk, then a euphemism
Archmage Atlantis: Hi , Paradise....nice to see you after so long (in my relativistic universe of course)
Paradise Tennant: smiles nice to see you too arch :) been a while :)
Paradise Tennant: how are you :)
Archmage Atlantis: Yes, I have been on a journey
Eos Amaterasu listens
Archmage Atlantis: It was a journey of the mind.......not so easy to detail.....often would require questioning
Eos Amaterasu: How is it now?
Archmage Atlantis: Not done
Eos Amaterasu: Is that okay?

--BELL--

Benedizione Vita: hello everyone
Paradise Tennant: smiles hiya bene
Eos Amaterasu: Hi Bene
Archmage Atlantis: Greeting
Benedizione Vita: whats poppin this evening?

Eos Amaterasu: I really appreciated that 90 seconds. It's been a very busy day.
Eos Amaterasu: The busyness was all there, but also let go
Paradise Tennant: same here .. nice to be still :)
Eos Amaterasu: in the 90 secs
Eos Amaterasu: or 900
Eos Amaterasu: What was your experience, Arch?
Archmage Atlantis: Nice to feel your lives, in the many seconds
Paradise Tennant: yes arch !
Eos Amaterasu: :-)
Benedizione Vita: oh my, yes, life does tick by each second
Benedizione Vita: it is a tremendous challenge, the appreciation of time
Eos Amaterasu: Can you say more, Benedizione?
Benedizione Vita: No
Eos Amaterasu: :-)

Archmage Atlantis: Today the pest control guy accepted my old fish tank for his son.......lot's of irony there
Benedizione Vita: irony?
Archmage Atlantis: What is life, and what is pest?
Benedizione Vita: fish vs. cockroach, you mean?

Paradise Tennant: on a happy note .. eos :) I heard from godwin over the weekend re the dog in malta .. speaking of life :) and pest being me !
Eos Amaterasu: Wow, really
Eos Amaterasu: ?
Paradise Tennant: He has managed to negotiate with the hunter to come every morning to let the dog out and only put him back in that concrete bunker at night to sleep really
Paradise Tennant: good news!
Paradise Tennant: lol going to tell my buddhist class aspiration works !
Eos Amaterasu wonders about the negotiation
Paradise Tennant: well took a long time apparently godwin is a mediator by trade :) so well equiped I suspect for difficult situations
Eos Amaterasu: your karma is now interlaced with Malta
Paradise Tennant: but very happy news for the dog .. really was like a doggie concentration camp :)
Paradise Tennant: lol
Paradise Tennant: yes
Archmage Atlantis: So true Eos, so true
Paradise Tennant: nice thinking of him running in the field not cooped up in the dark and dirt :)

Eos Amaterasu: How's the t-shirts going? :-)
Paradise Tennant: she is working on them
Paradise Tennant: they will be free to share
Paradise Tennant: with a lily and the verse did you want any other sympbols ?
Eos Amaterasu: Great idea!
Eos Amaterasu can't forget the almond cookies :-)
Paradise Tennant: hmm so you want a picture of the almond cookie too!
Paradise Tennant: lol
Paradise Tennant: don't think anyone took one
Paradise Tennant: i suppose we could fudge it ..lol sorry very bad pun
Eos Amaterasu: I used to get those in Halifax years ago, actually
Paradise Tennant: listens
Eos Amaterasu wonders if Paradise is listening to him
Paradise Tennant: lol
Eos Amaterasu: :-)
Paradise Tennant: yes waiting for more .. on the almond cookie ..
Paradise Tennant: smiles

--BELL--

Paradise Tennant: seem to striked a deep resonance with all there
Paradise Tennant: wb arch
Paradise Tennant: :)
Eos Amaterasu: stevenaia always does exercises when he arrives
stevenaia Michinaga: :)
Archmage Atlantis: Hello all, Steven
Paradise Tennant: hiya steve
stevenaia Michinaga: evening all
stevenaia Michinaga: more sleet here, more snow on thursday, darn that groundhog
Paradise Tennant: lol can never trust rodents!
Paradise Tennant: smiles
Paradise Tennant: very snowy here too .. wet slushy snow and lots of it
Eos Amaterasu: groundhog is also confused by the weather
stevenaia Michinaga: but a great movie
Eos Amaterasu: we'll be getting lots of rain next few days
Paradise Tennant: yes a wonderful movie!
Eos Amaterasu: but a great movie
stevenaia Michinaga: didn;t mean to distract the group,
stevenaia Michinaga: what was that topic?
Paradise Tennant: pastry
stevenaia Michinaga: :)
Benedizione Vita: delicious :)
Benedizione Vita: I'm going to go get some food haha
Benedizione Vita: goodnight, all
Eos Amaterasu: night
Paradise Tennant: goodnite bene
Paradise Tennant: we were reminiscing on almond cookies

Eos Amaterasu: Paradise, any further reflections on post-retreat?
Archmage Atlantis: Actually one can trust rodents.......they always follow the route to staying alive........it's humans that are tricky
Paradise Tennant: hmm yes was going to do a write up and insert it into the log if I ever find it
Paradise Tennant: smiles at arch
Paradise Tennant: blinks ... perhaps the most remarkable element was how well everyone got along
Paradise Tennant: there was ease and harmony .. at the get go
Paradise Tennant: very relaxed
Paradise Tennant: and very complementary .. the interaction I found to be progressive
Eos Amaterasu: Do you think that was due to having had SL contact first?
Paradise Tennant: bridging building kind of communication
Archmage Atlantis: When make muffins, I follow the chemistry of what creates them
Paradise Tennant: yes
Paradise Tennant: baking .. is all good!
Paradise Tennant: I do think it is amazing how well you can get to know someone in sl without ever having met them in rl but meeting them in rl .. also adds understanding
Archmage Atlantis: Last time I had apples and red rice in them
Eos Amaterasu: following the chemistry of what creates us?
Archmage Atlantis: People liked them
Paradise Tennant: they sound yummy
Archmage Atlantis: but wanted what was familiar
Eos Amaterasu: Yes, I think in a way people were exfoliating further, disclosing more and richer aspects of themselves
Eos Amaterasu: the RL dimension is pretty deep
Paradise Tennant: smiles .. exfoliation always makes me think of how much sand the dog brings into the bed smiles a different kind of exfoliation :)
Eos Amaterasu feels the grit
Paradise Tennant: well he goes to the beach every day - grit happens
Paradise Tennant: smiles
Eos Amaterasu: heh heh
stevenaia Michinaga: he
stevenaia Michinaga: heh
Eos Amaterasu: More bumper stickers I have seen: shit happens;   nothing happens
Paradise Tennant: in a way .. I felt I could see more of the person in rl by knowing them in sl
Paradise Tennant: lol
Paradise Tennant: great bumper stickers
stevenaia Michinaga: I friend who will be teaching a class on avatar tld me an interesting story abut her SL experience
Archmage Atlantis: Things do happen Eos....it is slow sometimes
stevenaia Michinaga: she has a friend with Asbergers who has problems reading "body language"
stevenaia Michinaga: a problem that does not exist in Sl

--BELL--

Paradise Tennant: yes ... works very well for high level autistics too have a friend who finds it much easier to interreact in sl than in rl
stevenaia Michinaga: sl the communications is devoid of that "always misinterpreted distraction"
Paradise Tennant: yes
Eos Amaterasu: what is the "always misinterpreted distraction"?
stevenaia Michinaga: showed me the diferences people have in communicating here
stevenaia Michinaga: body language is the distraction
Archmage Atlantis: That is a brilliant question, Steve
Archmage Atlantis: I face it with Fael daily
Eos Amaterasu: ah, less body language in SL, so easier
stevenaia Michinaga: if someone cannot interpret my "rolling eyes" at the mentioning of someone else, the humor (or insult) is lost

Paradise Tennant: it was wol I think who said typos are sl's body language

stevenaia Michinaga: yes so much of that is communication many of us have no problem understanding
Paradise Tennant: smiles
stevenaia Michinaga: (IN RL)
Eos Amaterasu: great observation
Paradise Tennant: and it is so much slower
Paradise Tennant: typing versus talking
Eos Amaterasu: more pauses
Paradise Tennant: someone said writing makes for an exact man
Eos Amaterasu: but also more multi-threading in the conversations
Paradise Tennant: forget who but it is true
Paradise Tennant: yes there are skips and jumps
Eos Amaterasu: weaves and spirals
stevenaia Michinaga: and lovely pauses here that would be uncomfortable in RL
Paradise Tennant: really likes being quiet in company .. there is something about shared stillness that is very appealing

Eos Amaterasu: yes.... thinking of the Malta RL retreat, sense of no agenda for the time period created a kind of suspension quality
Paradise Tennant: yes !
Eos Amaterasu: like a long 90secs within which a lot happened
Paradise Tennant: was very open
stevenaia Michinaga: it does wonderful things with time
Eos Amaterasu: are you finding that that carries along more now in RL?
stevenaia Michinaga: 90 seconds can be too long, 15 minutes can be too short
stevenaia Michinaga: (in RL)
Eos Amaterasu: the media is afraid of pauses
Eos Amaterasu: air time
Calvino Rabeni: Like drinking - 1 is too many, 3 is not enough
Eos Amaterasu: hang time
stevenaia Michinaga: not sure they are allowed
stevenaia Michinaga: lol, yes Cal
Paradise Tennant: hmm I stopped and ran the pictures as a slide show on my computer at work this morning .. was impressed by how vividly I remembered the little details

stevenaia Michinaga: you saying we are time-a-holics
Eos Amaterasu: we are next-a-holics

Calvino Rabeni: In media, to keep a grip on our attention
Calvino Rabeni: In conversation, it is the idea of "productivity" or "time is money"
Calvino Rabeni: basically, a feature of industrialism
Calvino Rabeni: We are "productivity-a-holics" perhaps?
Eos Amaterasu: interesting, the feeling of "well being" has a suspension quality, like a droplet of honey
Calvino Rabeni: Nice of you to point out that quality
Calvino Rabeni: Eos, I've noticed you often have a good sense of qualities
Eos Amaterasu: qualites...? as in sense qualities? or characterizations?
Calvino Rabeni: Qualities are a great thing - a dimension of experience that is not quantitative
Eos Amaterasu: I'm actually an analog guy deep down :-)
Calvino Rabeni: In a way, I think the experienced world splits on that - subjective experience is about quality - objective experience (things) is about quantity and number
Calvino Rabeni: Perhaps this is because - no one has figured out how to measure Quality

Archmage Atlantis: Ich bin ein Berliner........is that quantitative, or quatlitavve?
Eos Amaterasu: the ein is qualitative
Calvino Rabeni: It is probably qualitative

--BELL--

Paradise Tennant: smiles and waves a quiet qualitative good by .. sneaking out to walk the dog who is very quantitative about his numbers of walks in a day
Eos Amaterasu: wow - bye!
Paradise Tennant: namaste everyone !
stevenaia Michinaga: I must be off, night all
Eos Amaterasu: like a fish in the mediterranean
Eos Amaterasu: good night for me too, bye arch and cal!
Calvino Rabeni: Good night eos
Archmage Atlantis: I invite you ro my island againcal, your choice
Calvino Rabeni: Hmm, in the digital age, we can look at the quantity of "quality" - aren't words handy )
Calvino Rabeni:
http://playasbeing.wik.is/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&search=%2B%22eos+quality%22~10