2010.02.28 01:00 - Intelligent lifeforms - their sects and failures

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    Stargate Tone: Good morning Qt
    Qt Core: good morning to you
    Moon Fargis: morning qt :)
    Qt Core: 'morning
    Qt Core: i may seem to be afk sometimes... trying to make some sense out of the new beta :-)
    Stargate Tone: _/|\_
    Stargate Tone: wb
    Moon Fargis: re
    Moon Fargis: seems that crashed
    Stargate Tone: **
    Qt Core: just mentioning the beta i may make other av to crash... interesting ;-)
    Moon Fargis: lol
    Moon Fargis: i tryd it
    Moon Fargis: and it crashed too :)
    Stargate Tone: oh...
    Qt Core: i'm feeling bold and i'm trying it on linux (so there is no way it can touch the standard one that is on windows too)
    Stargate Tone: is it to target cuz I didn't crash ?
    Moon Fargis: hehe
    Moon Fargis: well i know just that sl now eaten 6181 items from my inventory
    Qt Core: teleported back here
    Qt Core: ouch!
    Moon Fargis: so no nice meadow and stuff around here...
    Moon Fargis: ehehe
    Moon Fargis: youre a bit to high star ::)
    Stargate Tone: ah ok...much turn to be 'something else'
    Stargate Tone: brb
    Moon Fargis: *Slurps his tea* so how are you today ?
    Qt Core: not bad, having a sleeping we (i really needed that), you ?
    Moon Fargis: :) well im pretty awake :)
    Moon Fargis: ahhhh
    Moon Fargis: thanks^^
    Stargate Tone: Qt's glassed reminds star of the time ppl used such in the movie theatre....
    Moon Fargis: so world seemsto be perfect now , anyone intrested at this early morning n a high intellectual talking ?:)
    Stargate Tone: never experienced that myself
    Stargate Tone: ah sure; always
    Qt Core: got those for a machinima festival whose very artistic exibitions i obviously didn't understand
    Stargate Tone: U'll call some life form from out of space here ?
    Stargate Tone: ahhhhh
    Stargate Tone: woooooow
    Stargate Tone: welcome alien :)***
    Moon Fargis: mepp mööp
    Stargate Tone: we'll now have a high intelllectual talking ?
    Moon Fargis: Meep Meep ;P :p:P :p :P
    Stargate Tone: ahhh...sounds like that :)***
    Qt Core: with someone mooning us ?
    Stargate Tone: well...they say that the talk of them highly intellectua life forms from out of space sound like the old tape recorder's tape is to put to run with speed, such recorded tape
    Moon Fargis: lol
    Stargate Tone: like that 'meep meep' and so
    Moon Fargis: maybe they are on drugs :)
    Stargate Tone: star also has such guide on her table
    Stargate Tone: that is the card
    Stargate Tone: there's this white nice dog form the cartoon that star donno the name in english....'kids' it's in Finland
    Moon Fargis: snoopy ?
    Stargate Tone: he's looking through the teescope
    Stargate Tone: ah yes
    Stargate Tone: telescope and thinks this;
    Moon Fargis: from peanuts
    Stargate Tone: 'there must be intellicent life somewhere'
    Stargate Tone: ah ok
    Moon Fargis: (charlie brown)
    Stargate Tone: yea
    Moon Fargis: ^^
    Qt Core: i usually go with the idea from Contact by Sagan, it would be such a waste of space if we are the only intelligent race in the universe
    Stargate Tone: so might this dog be the most inteeligent being cuz he's this wise
    Stargate Tone: ah sure; star agree Qt 130 %
    Moon Fargis: it is rather naive to think we are the only one :)
    Stargate Tone: _/|\_
    Moon Fargis: if one realizes the dimensions of the universe
    Qt Core: just only ur galaxy or local group is mindboggling
    Qt Core: our
    Moon Fargis: yes:)
    Qt Core: i can't just contain it in my head ;-)
    Stargate Tone: :)***
    Stargate Tone: (star learned again more of the word to contain)
    Moon Fargis: well thw worlds we humans created already in our mind seems already to be endless
    Stargate Tone: hm...
    Stargate Tone: that's why all them images in star's mind do live/move ?
    Qt Core: no, that is just as you are alive :-)
    Stargate Tone: oh wow.....
    Stargate Tone: know what Qt; your written 3 last words of that line are very special words to me...
    Stargate Tone: have got huge experience which was later on told me to mean that ...
    Stargate Tone: and when I told that story to one of my SL friends, he said that I wrote the story of my life *
    Stargate Tone: have tried to contain that meaning to my head...donno if I've been able to do that
    Qt Core: yeah, ideas and thought have this weird inability to stay confined in heads ;-)
    Stargate Tone: hm...
    Stargate Tone: that's the same with men too ?
    Qt Core: ?
    Stargate Tone: ah well...asks just cuz star has much been teached that it's womens' prob....
    Stargate Tone: but star donno...at least not yet
    Qt Core: maybe men find easier just to not let out anything, but when you open even a little crack it is hard to choose what will spill out
    Stargate Tone: oh wow...that's so ?
    Moon Fargis: *scratches his head*
    Qt Core: can't speak for all of us but i feel like that
    Stargate Tone: somthing comes out that way Moon ?
    Stargate Tone: hm...well then...think that it must be something good if this prob concerns also men ....
    Moon Fargis: hmmm atm my cat walks over me :)
    Stargate Tone: as imo nothing such that is the same to both; women and men, cannot be bad thing
    Stargate Tone: smiles *
    Qt Core: colds, flu ? ;-)
    Stargate Tone: she wants to take part to this intelligent conversation ?
    Stargate Tone: hm...well...colds are illnesses...not the base of how the mind works out...
    Stargate Tone: oh wow; thinks how it might be easy for Moon to create the headline to this log and ppl shall read with curiosity :)****
    Moon Fargis: wel she layed now infront of mepurring :)
    Qt Core: the more i watch the trees and the clean water of the fountain the more i got sad for this: http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...W9D1AD9E2LT404 (i like at less than 10 km from Lambro river and cross it twice daily on my commute
    Stargate Tone: _/|\_
    Qt Core: for the log, a big oil spill on a just recovering from decades of pollution small river)
    Qt Core: and the oil reached the biggest italian river too
    Stargate Tone: oh no...
    Moon Fargis: ...
    Stargate Tone: it's long time ago, but there was huge operations for the baltick sea
    Qt Core: the irony ? the river name, Lambro comes from ancient word for clean/fresh
    Qt Core: they said that in the sea it is easier to clean as there is more water
    Stargate Tone: cuz of so much all kind of waste barrels had been found from it's bottom
    Stargate Tone: ...as far as I know, there was also success to clean it up much
    Stargate Tone: yet it's still suffering
    Moon Fargis: sigh
    Moon Fargis: so it was sabotage
    Moon Fargis: wich meabns people did this becasue ofm ney
    Moon Fargis: money
    Moon Fargis: mostly
    Moon Fargis: that other oil companys get better
    Moon Fargis: maybe even mafia
    Qt Core: in the mediterranean we just (just as in last summer) found at leas one ship consciously sunken with toxic waste in it
    Qt Core: can't be that it was an old rusty oil depot
    Stargate Tone: ponders ....who's welfare that could be...
    Moon Fargis: the companys now delivering the oil thats missing
    Qt Core: sadly they just gou out from the limit of a lawe that would have obliged them to be a lot more careful and having emergency plans
    Qt Core: gou=got
    Stargate Tone: **
    Moon Fargis: how?
    Moon Fargis: how one can get out of law?
    Stargate Tone: breaking it
    Qt Core: changing from a refinery to oil depot lessen the danger level and even that they would have had only to be ready for fire, not spills
    Moon Fargis: thse
    Stargate Tone: and of such the sea can hide the truth for long time....like it did ; the baltic sea...
    Qt Core: we had a much bigger incident around here in 1976, so big a eu directive about safety is named after it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seveso_disaster
    Moon Fargis: mornng bert
    Stargate Tone: Good morning Bert
    Qt Core: hi bert
    Bertram Jacobus: good morning all :-))
    Moon Fargis: ah well i wonder what heppens then next in italy
    Bertram Jacobus: seveso --- still famous and rememberable ... in a very heavy way ...
    Stargate Tone: remember the huge disaster on them shores of Spain....
    Qt Core: we are just ready ourselves to restart building nuclear power plants...
    Bertram Jacobus: and very nice moon head and qt glasses - lol . still from the avatar 3d movie qt ? :-)
    Moon Fargis: ^^
    Moon Fargis: btw
    Stargate Tone: btw Bert; we have had special intelligent conversation here thi smorning
    Moon Fargis: the newer nvidia graphics cards are able to turn nearly every 3d game into such one that ca be viewed with that glasses
    Moon Fargis: even SL
    Bertram Jacobus: special intelligent star ? makes me curious ...
    Qt Core: :-)
    Stargate Tone: smiles widely *
    Bertram Jacobus: and the 3d thing ... intersting too ...
    Stargate Tone: might you also then read to log for curiosity :)***
    Bertram Jacobus: (so many intersting things!) ... ;-)
    Stargate Tone: (Moon called this being from out of space that there would be intelligence as present)
    Moon Fargis: Meep Meep
    Bertram Jacobus: yes star - can´t somebody make a notecard for me perhaps ? someone knows how to do easily ? but not too much effort please ...
    Stargate Tone: ah; can do that for you *
    Moon Fargis: http://logs.playasbeing.org/format.p...=Moon%20Fargis
    Moon Fargis: thats the link :)
    Bertram Jacobus: oops - already now ? already posted ??
    Bertram Jacobus: and ty for sure
    Moon Fargis: ahh no
    Moon Fargis: nt posted yet
    Stargate Tone: here Bert
    Bertram Jacobus: okay ... as usual - i´m not so common with the technical sides of ... many things ... "sadly" ? may be not :-) - but hope not to cause so more efforts or work to others ... hm ... :-)
    Bertram Jacobus: ty both ! :-))
    Stargate Tone: ah yes; the note card is even better; as you can see them green lines there too, which the log erases :)****
    Stargate Tone: *giggles*
    Moon Fargis: seems QT felt asleep :)
    Stargate Tone: ah...she might drop by on the milky way
    Bertram Jacobus: sometimes i miss intelligence here and at other times it is like "too much" for me - so , as always "the path in the middle" (a personally one! for sure, individually) - always i´m searching ...
    Stargate Tone: _/|\_
    Moon Fargis: well the usual Pab talk where people shoot themself with theit knowledge of inteligent words is something wich always makes me feel bad
    Qt Core: i'm here just sickly fashinated by the wikipedia article abou Seveso
    Stargate Tone: wow Qt; is that galaxy prim to transfer ?
    Qt Core: let see
    Bertram Jacobus: my impression is, some people here like these quite complicated views ...
    Bertram Jacobus: i mean "here at pab"
    Bertram Jacobus: and in school very often my problem was, that in philosophy people seemed to like questions more then answers. i´m totally different with that (!)
    Stargate Tone: star has got just the same impression
    Qt Core: but in the end not everything is simple and not everything is complex
    Stargate Tone: _/|\_
    Bertram Jacobus: i agree qt, but good always to know that both is correct
    Moon Fargis: th thx seems that galaxy thing isnt transfer :)
    Bertram Jacobus: may be that that is inclded in this "middle path" , too ...
    Moon Fargis: reading atm that article you mentiond
    Stargate Tone: sry...star simply must try to find it with the LM
    Stargate Tone: brb
    Bertram Jacobus is concentrated
    Qt Core: it was a freebie, don't know where i got it
    Bertram Jacobus: when you click it right, you often can find things via the creators name and so on ...
    Bertram Jacobus: his profile, his picks ...
    Bertram Jacobus: hello william
    Qt Core: (showing his ignorance about gaining and searching for outfits and such)
    William88 McMinnar: hello
    Moon Fargis: greetings
    Bertram Jacobus: take a seat if you like and join us ;-)
    William88 McMinnar: just logged out from here b4, not sure what this place is
    Bertram Jacobus: lol aha :o)
    Bertram Jacobus: so he´s not sure further on ... ;o)
    Moon Fargis: ah we meet here 4 times a day
    Bertram Jacobus: oops - sry - thought you were disappeareed
    Moon Fargis: a gfroup practising a ew kind of awareness meditation
    Moon Fargis: and we come here to babble
    Bertram Jacobus: and talks a loooot (!)
    Moon Fargis: about that and philosophical stuff
    Moon Fargis: aso
    Bertram Jacobus: yess :o)
    William88 McMinnar: sounds good
    Bertram Jacobus: and the talks here are recorded at a wiki - is that ok for you william ?
    Moon Fargis: we also log our talks and put them on our homepage
    Moon Fargis: http://playasbeing.wik.is/
    William88 McMinnar: not sure
    William88 McMinnar: I am of philisophical bent
    Stargate Tone: re
    Qt Core: so our masterpieces of silliness may be recorded for posterity
    Stargate Tone: Good Morning William88
    William88 McMinnar: lol
    William88 McMinnar: hello
    Stargate Tone: ah thank you Qt; I found to the freebie paradice; it just takes huge long time to rezz
    Stargate Tone: so I thought to search it later on...specially cuz I found this;
    Bertram Jacobus: sry rl visitors cam - cu
    Bertram Jacobus: cu
    Stargate Tone: cu
    Qt Core: ok, i must not get angry for the crash, i'm using a beta keep calm ;-)
    Stargate Tone: _/|\_
    William88 McMinnar: what do you guys think of the church of scientology..just curious
    Qt Core: the worst i can come up with
    Moon Fargis: hmm
    Moon Fargis: well dunni if it can be called church
    Stargate Tone: star studied 'something' from web ab the scientology; felt them to speak huge much truth....up to the 'phrase' they claimed that the spirit is 'far' to reach....
    Moon Fargis: and to be true what i heard from those who where able to leave them i have no good opinion aboutthem
    Stargate Tone: after that I stopped examining
    Stargate Tone: cuz I felt so bad for there that claiming
    William88 McMinnar: hmm, interesting
    Stargate Tone: ?
    Stargate Tone: scientology ?
    Moon Fargis: well the best lies are covered with truth, no ?
    Stargate Tone: sadly so many times that is...as the 'pure' lie can be identified much easier than the mix of the lie and the truth
    Moon Fargis: well lets say so wiliam
    Qt Core: that's why you mix them, star
    Moon Fargis: i am buddhist myself and we respect every religion thats based on love and compassion
    Moon Fargis: sadly that way i cant respect scientology
    Stargate Tone: well...donno how much I mix, but 'wait for more information' untill I can feel that I know the truth
    Stargate Tone: so...before that I donno...
    Stargate Tone: ah and yes; there's much more such in the world that I donno than what I know
    Stargate Tone: but I feel well with that
    Qt Core: i'm usually open to revise my opinions, but at the moment scientology is just a notch up than simple fraud
    Qt Core: that is as you can chose not to enter it
    Moon Fargis: well there are manny sects outthere not scientology
    Moon Fargis: not only
    Stargate Tone: loool...do U William come from out of space ?
    William88 McMinnar: hmm?
    Qt Core: time to go start lunch
    Moon Fargis: but their base system is always the same, a "guru" worshippped as nearlike od gives rules to the followers to give up all their money and ownings to him and they get broken with their mind my different rituals
    Stargate Tone: as we called beings from there that we could have intelligent conversation :))))))
    Stargate Tone: ah
    Stargate Tone: enjoy Qt
    Moon Fargis: :D
    Moon Fargis: yes enjoy :)
    Qt Core: bye all, and have fun (or intelligent chat if you prefer)
    Stargate Tone: rooooooofl
    William88 McMinnar: i know alot of stuff
    Stargate Tone: well...can share also this;
    Stargate Tone: as my interest to know more of the scientology rose cuz I know one special good person who sais him to be a scientologist
    Stargate Tone: and I cannot 'connect' anything bad with this person
    Stargate Tone: he's neither experienced any money giving things within his connections to that culture...in case that word can been used with scientology...donno
    Stargate Tone: so might that also be such 'thing' that has many formes how it's used...
    Stargate Tone: like there's different kind of leaders within one culture...
    Moon Fargis: oh ofcourse one can call himself a christ but dont needto be member of the church and pay their taxes
    Moon Fargis: yes
    Stargate Tone: ah yes
    William88 McMinnar: yes therey are called independent scientologists or freezone scientologists i believe
    Stargate Tone: and yes; have known this person for years and had much nice conversations with him
    Moon Fargis: well the inner call of humans for salvation is huge
    Moon Fargis: becasue they feel that theres a higher truth out there
    Moon Fargis: something they cannot realize by normal sience
    Moon Fargis: so they seek for ways to find that truth
    Moon Fargis: and saldy many people are outthere who make money out of that
    William88 McMinnar: hmm
    Moon Fargis: including church
    Moon Fargis: i wonder when people start to search the truh in themself and not truths of others
    Stargate Tone: ah yes; knows huge many courses sold to ppl to take to become to be the healer....
    Stargate Tone: and they are specially teached that 'open to be the healer, but NEVER receive money for your given help'
    Stargate Tone: yet they must pay for the teacher
    Stargate Tone: no matter if they 'have learned' to be the healer or not
    Moon Fargis: well i had the topic yesterday after my meditation how money is worshipped as god
    Stargate Tone: as star thinks that nobody can been teached to be the healer ; one is that or not
    Stargate Tone: ah yes; and thinks that anybody CAN be if wants truly
    William88 McMinnar: you guys r bhuddist?
    William88 McMinnar: buddhist
    Moon Fargis: well i am yes
    Stargate Tone: tricky question...might U Moon tell if I am or not...?
    Moon Fargis: hah ahm
    Moon Fargis: you are buddhst and shintois and some finnish nature religionist
    Moon Fargis: so uhm
    Moon Fargis: BuFinnist
    Stargate Tone: woooow
    Moon Fargis: or
    Moon Fargis: uhm
    Stargate Tone: thank you
    Moon Fargis: BudShinfist
    Stargate Tone: hm....starist ?
    Moon Fargis: lol
    Moon Fargis: ok :)
    Stargate Tone: well William; I just learned such of the base knowledge of buddhims, that I can say that you also are buddha
    Stargate Tone: so...dont truly clearly know what is to be buddhist...but I know that my way of thinking and live is easy to see as to be like Moon said
    Stargate Tone: as I've born to chirstianity and believe also that Jesus lived like it's told in the bible, but that there's told only part of his life for sure
    William88 McMinnar: i am very sleepy but its interesting to hear what you guys have to say
    Stargate Tone: I also know for the reason that Siddharta Gautama lived like he's told to live...yet; same with 'him'...could been told only part of his life, and he didn't write down he's given advises
    Stargate Tone: hm
    William88 McMinnar: i bet jesus learned from budda
    William88 McMinnar: from buddism
    Stargate Tone: maybe we told you a good 'night fairytail' then :)***
    William88 McMinnar: sllllleeeeeepppppyyyy
    William88 McMinnar: goodnight fine folks
    Moon Fargis: well good night then :)
    Stargate Tone: sweet dreams *

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