2010.03.07 08:00 - Guardian Session: village square

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    There were 11 guardians present for this session: Agatha Macbeth : arabella Ella : Bleu Oleander : Calvino Rabeni : Eliza Madrigal : Eos Amaterasu : Lia Rikugun : Maxine Walden : Riddle Sideways : Storm Nordwind : Yakuzza Lethecus

    Agatha Macbeth: And Lia too
    Maxine Walden: hi, Lia
    Eos Amaterasu: Hi Lia (with tail :-), & Bleu
    Agatha Macbeth: Hello Bleu
    Bleu Oleander: hi everyone :)
    Lia Rikugun: hello hello :)
    Maxine Walden: hi, Bleu
    Eos Amaterasu: SophiaSharon had a suggestion she wnated brought up, via Storm
    Eos Amaterasu: (she can't make it here today)
    Lia Rikugun: (will post the log of this session later)
    Maxine Walden: great, Lia
    Maxine Walden: yes, Eos?
    Maxine Walden: or Storm?

    SophiaSharon's idea about consolidation the work done by the scribes: the pub as a complement to the wiki

    Storm Nordwind is still just reading the correspondence and IMs about Sharon's idea
    Storm Nordwind: The idea seems to be an interesting way of consolidating the work done by our scribes
    Maxine Walden: is there an easy way to summarize her idea?
    Storm Nordwind: Let me try...
    arabella Ella: Hiya
    Agatha Macbeth: Hi Ara :)
    Storm Nordwind: "The idea was to set up something in the Five Bells Pub about the monthly scribes...To have an object somewhere in the pub that gives notecards.... I volunteer for this project... the notecards would include the monthly scribes, maybe some PaB info, poems or other documents offered by guardians, in a menu that the resident could pick from to obtain the document."
    Maxine Walden: hi, Ara
    Storm Nordwind: (Sharon's words)
    Storm Nordwind: I think this as a complement to the entries on the wiki, not a substitute
    Maxine Walden: sounds interesting
    Storm Nordwind: I'd like to discuss it further with her. So often not able to convey everything without interaction :)
    Maxine Walden: hi, Riddle
    Maxine Walden: good idea, Storm
    arabella Ella: Hiya Riddle
    Riddle Sideways quietly says good morning
    Agatha Macbeth: Hello Riddle
    Storm Nordwind: But there's no reason why not. And I'm definitely in favor of extended (and extensive!) use of the pub :)
    Eos Amaterasu: The context was how to make the Scribes' work more visible and useful
    Eos Amaterasu: I for one under-utilize the scribing as a way to catch up on what's been going on in sessions
    Riddle Sideways: ummmm, is this the dressed in black section
    Eos Amaterasu: without haveing to read each session
    arabella Ella: :)
    Bleu Oleander: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Not for you :)
    Storm Nordwind: I think the fun component would be a useful addition. I'm not convinced that the visibility of the pub vs. the wiki is really the case, but as a complement it sounds wonderful!
    Eos Amaterasu: Beyond, that, more up front on the wiki would also be good
    Storm Nordwind agrees

    does the village need anything else? a lot of ideas

    arabella Ella: If I may make a suggestion also linked to something Storm recently asked at PaB
    arabella Ella: his question was whether the village needs anything else ...
    arabella Ella: and this could be combiled to present situation if i get gist right
    arabella Ella: i think it would be great to have a village square
    Calvino Rabeni: There could be ways to raise the visibility from the SL - things to entice visitors - don't know what
    arabella Ella: with some fun items and what Sharon / Storm just suggested culd be in the village square if it were to be set up
    arabella Ella: People tend to meet and chat in RL in open air village squares
    Agatha Macbeth nods
    arabella Ella: as a central focal point for everyone
    arabella Ella: and the number of fun items placed in the village square is ... well up to everyone's imagination
    Storm Nordwind: Where shall we put the square? In place of the central monument (for example)?
    Eos Amaterasu: this neighborhood is starting to be village squary, what with this hall plus pub a few feet away
    Eos Amaterasu: ie, these are our public spaces so far
    Maxine Walden: was thinking the same thing, Eos
    arabella Ella: there are numberous possibilities for where it could be placed
    arabella Ella: my preference is ... with no offence to anyone as all places are lovely ... for open air venues
    Storm Nordwind: It could also be in the space directly east of the pub
    Calvino Rabeni: An architect's ideas would be welcome
    Storm Nordwind: There are two free plots there by the steps to the pub
    arabella Ella: we dont have weather problems here on SL
    Eos Amaterasu is thinking, north is to my right shoulder....
    Agatha Macbeth: :)
    Storm Nordwind: I can make weather problems if you like ara! ;)
    arabella Ella: close to the pub would be great as it may imcrease acess to pub too
    arabella Ella giggles ... need some rain here
    Eos Amaterasu: in vino veritas
    Yakuzza Lethecus: lol
    Riddle Sideways: we had snow
    Storm Nordwind: Then directly east of the pub, so that the pub faces out onto it, might be very good
    arabella Ella: if it is close to the pub it could be a sort of outdoor drinking and chatting area relevant to pub too
    Riddle Sideways: a village square always had a pub and the town hall
    Maxine Walden: Truth in Wine, that could be the name of the square
    Bleu Oleander: maybe we could ask some sl artists to do a piece for the square .... a revolving art exit of sorts
    Storm Nordwind: In fact the Village Hall will be diagonally off the square too
    arabella Ella imagines benches, umbrellas ... perhaps some playground sruff like swings or hammocks
    Calvino Rabeni: Villages squares need kiosk, bookstore, public info type things
    Calvino Rabeni: Hammock and hangouts
    Maxine Walden: already a busy place...with relaxing spots
    arabella Ella: we could move some plots if necessary Storm to make it fit it between here and pub
    Agatha Macbeth: Sounds like the Village in 'The Prisoner' :)
    Eos Amaterasu: Café for delicacies and chat
    Storm Nordwind: It will work with what we have anyway. I don't think we'll need to move much if anything
    arabella Ella: and it could be central TP point for visitors to village
    arabella Ella: with info kiosks
    Eos Amaterasu: True, a spot to invite people for conversation
    Calvino Rabeni: Open spaces - like the many squares in a city like Madrid
    arabella Ella: exactly
    Calvino Rabeni: A few art things, or many :)
    Calvino Rabeni: Like the one in the cafe
    Calvino Rabeni: and at the entrance to the museum
    Storm Nordwind: The other much demanded thing is a streaming radio object for every plot that wants one. At the moment as owner I have to change the streams manually for each request. I will provide a device that will allow guardians to adjust this themselves according to every passing whim :)
    Calvino Rabeni: Nice :)
    Maxine Walden: an added dimension, Storm
    Bleu Oleander: I was thinking that we could ask different sl artists to put up a piece, changing it every month or so?
    arabella Ella: the square could have a notecard dispenser with different notes (info welcome scribes etc) plus a tip jar
    Riddle Sideways: a lemonade stand or PlayAsBeing advice 5c
    Storm Nordwind: That would be awesome Bleu if we could get the interest!
    Riddle Sideways: stand
    Bleu Oleander: I think I can try
    Maxine Walden: :), Riddle
    Storm Nordwind: Like the Trafalgar Square plinth :)
    arabella Ella: not sure how relevant this is but perhaps part of the square could be a sandboxx to encourage us to build stuff
    Storm Nordwind: Sandbox, in my opinion, should be distant from the rest
    Eliza Madrigal: (Hi everyone, apologies for being late)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hehe, that would increase the possibility ppl from meet there
    arabella Ella: Hiya Eliza
    Agatha Macbeth: Hi Liz :)
    Eliza Madrigal: :) Thanks.. will quietly catch up
    Maxine Walden: (this burgeoning of ideas...)
    Storm Nordwind: We had a sandbox once by the sea and no one used it except Adelene
    Maxine Walden: hi, Eliza.
    arabella Ella: my idea re sandbox Storm is as Yaku said, it could encourage more ppl to meet there and we could exchange building tips ... but it could only be say half of square
    arabella Ella: and others could watch if interested
    Calvino Rabeni: LIke a children play area off to the side of a park?
    arabella Ella: like a sand pit in a kids playground
    Calvino Rabeni: Yes
    arabella Ella: yes
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: can we have our own playground ,,daddy storm" ? :)
    Calvino Rabeni: A place with silly/fun animations - click here to FLIP! etc.
    arabella Ella smiles
    Agatha Macbeth: :)
    Eos Amaterasu: Our plots are sandboxes, neh?
    Storm Nordwind: It's certainly possible. I can still restrict it to guardian build permission and have an autoreturn (like next to the Cafe) of, say, 2 hours.
    arabella Ella: yes
    Bleu Oleander: we could have building contests with awards?
    arabella Ella: the difference from building on our own plots is that this could encourage communal peer to peer learning
    arabella Ella: and of course increased interaction
    Storm Nordwind: wonderful :)
    arabella Ella thinks silently ... maybe some of the more expert people at building could spend a bit of time teaching others too ... mmmmmm
    Bleu Oleander: each 4-plot could compete for the best build ... encouraging everyone to work together on a piece for a say quarterly art show?
    arabella Ella: interesting Bleu ... or individually would work too
    Eliza Madrigal: how exciting... many ideas bubbling up for a dynamic place!
    Riddle Sideways: and the oscar goes to ...
    Riddle Sideways: Storm
    Eliza Madrigal: :)))
    Bleu Oleander: each quarter could have a diff set of parameters?
    arabella Ella: yeaaaaaaaaa
    Storm Nordwind looks around at people's clothes and wonders whether most artistic creations will be black!
    Agatha Macbeth: I see a rainbow and....
    Bleu Oleander: we could call it the "Kira" and it could be displayed on the winners plots
    Calvino Rabeni: PAB t-shirt vendor?
    Storm Nordwind: We've had those before, and for Kira too. No reason why not
    arabella Ella: there used to be competitions on SL where avis had to compete to build something and the audience had to guess what it was ... like a toothbrush for example
    Storm Nordwind: "can you see what it is yet?"
    Bleu Oleander: fun!
    Agatha Macbeth: Thanks Rolf ;-)
    Bleu Oleander: like pictionary
    Storm Nordwind: Rolf Harris comes to Second Life
    Riddle Sideways: not fun for us building chalenged :(
    Agatha Macbeth: Where's yer wobble board Storm?
    arabella Ella: those of us who are building challenged could take the opportunity to hone our skills Riddle
    Storm Nordwind: I could tell you Agatha, but then I'd have to shoot you... oh no, mixed memes ;)
    arabella Ella: maybe the village square could have four main areas ... possibly as ...
    Agatha Macbeth: Eeeeeeeek!!!!
    arabella Ella: one for the sandbox sort of stuff
    arabella Ella: one for umbrellas and seating for outside pub drinking and chatting
    arabella Ella: one for fun stuff like playground swings etc
    arabella Ella: and ... a fourth ... for whatever ideas people may have
    Storm Nordwind: Anyone with ideas, please email me sketches :)
    arabella Ella: just suggestions of course
    Eliza Madrigal likes swings
    Agatha Macbeth: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: a playful ground taking shape ...
    Calvino Rabeni: Sculpture garden, combined with labyrynth
    Storm Nordwind: (There's already a fun toy that everyone can use in the middle of the common area next to my plot)
    arabella Ella: maybe the fourth area could be a garden with lovely flowering bushes and maybe a small labirinth?
    arabella Ella: hey Calvino ... great minds ... he he
    Eos Amaterasu: Hypogeum
    arabella Ella: or above ground temple
    Eos Amaterasu: where we bury avatars
    arabella Ella: or some meditation scripts
    Storm Nordwind: and other large aquatic animals
    Calvino Rabeni: An oracle, of some kind?
    arabella Ella: yea
    Eos Amaterasu: it's at the pavilion that we consult the oracle of Being
    arabella Ella: i think one of the key features should be openness for those of us who may not have good motion control indoors
    Calvino Rabeni: I got it - "Pixel-Henge"
    Maxine Walden: (can just feel the playful associations pour forth)
    Storm Nordwind groans
    arabella Ella: he he
    Calvino Rabeni: Openness is good for the cam-challenged
    arabella Ella: yes
    Storm Nordwind: Especially if they're using the new view, apparently
    Storm Nordwind: *viewer
    arabella Ella: and the square could be useful for celebrations similar to the one we had in the village on New Year's Eve
    Calvino Rabeni: Vertical space is also a quality that would feel good to have more of
    arabella Ella: maybe the fourth part could be a meditation space with small prayer candles
    arabella Ella: or prayer flags which people could set up and write their messages on for 24 hrs
    Eliza Madrigal: hmm, yes all really nice ideas....
    Eliza Madrigal: i've been moving things around at my spot this week... changing things around and considering the possibilities... many ideas as one walks the village ...
    arabella Ella: I'm not good at sketches ... but perhaps some people are good at design
    Eliza Madrigal: its another way of conversing with one another :)
    Calvino Rabeni: People visit our plots while no one is around - maybe some kind of greeter script would add something of interest
    Storm Nordwind knows that very many people run a mile when there are greeter scripts around!
    Eliza Madrigal: yes... non intrusive little things though
    Maxine Walden: greeter scripts can feel like 'big brother' to a visitor
    Calvino Rabeni: could be done
    Eliza Madrigal: one thing that I like, is seeing when someone has a book or library.....
    Eliza Madrigal: that can give a lot of information if someone likes...
    Calvino Rabeni: In one sim, I found a weather script - when you walk to that area, there's a sudden thunderstorm
    Eliza Madrigal: or just a picture/pointer
    arabella Ella: what do you mean Eliza?
    Eliza Madrigal loves that idea too Calvino
    Eliza Madrigal: Sometimes I make a little book for a table in my spot...
    arabella Ella: what a lovely idea
    Eliza Madrigal: Adams, for instance, has a "TSK"

    its raining... ;)

    arabella Ella: oh its raining
    arabella Ella: Storm!!!!!!
    arabella Ella: bring on the brollies
    Maxine Walden: ah, weather is visiting.....a Storm
    Eliza Madrigal: and I know in other places you can choose a book from a shelf and have a notecard
    Agatha Macbeth: Doh, the roof's leaking!
    Eliza Madrigal: heheh
    Eliza Madrigal delighted not to miss a rainy meeting :)))))
    arabella Ella giggles
    Bleu Oleander: faulty construction :)
    Calvino Rabeni: I like that idea - basically anything to personalize things - SL tends to become somewhat generic otherwise
    Maxine Walden: ah and here comes the thunder
    Agatha Macbeth: It's just like being in England
    arabella Ella: rushes to put on sound
    Maxine Walden: can feel the wet and for me the cold...
    arabella Ella: havent heard thunder in months ... could we have it again Storm please?
    Bleu Oleander: am starting to feel soggy
    Lia Rikugun: oh i didnt have the sound on :)
    Eliza Madrigal: hehe Bleu
    Calvino Rabeni: And it is interesting - like life - to have occasional surprises happen
    Lia Rikugun: i get this every day in real life , too much rain :(
    Agatha Macbeth: My hair ;(
    Storm Nordwind waves
    arabella Ella: its lovely to have rain with no hair problems :)
    Storm Nordwind: Hmm...
    Eliza Madrigal: indeed :) frizz be gone
    Yakuzza Lethecus enjoy´s the cold,sunny,snowy weather right infront of his real life window :)
    arabella Ella: do you still have snow Yaku?
    Yakuzza Lethecus: it came back on friday night :)
    arabella Ella: oh noooooo
    Yakuzza Lethecus: it´s fine, roads are free
    arabella Ella: ah
    arabella Ella: this is so cool thanks Storm!
    Storm Nordwind smiles
    Agatha Macbeth: Yeah, thanks for the storm, Storm :)
    arabella Ella: he he
    Storm Nordwind: More rain than I've seen in RL since October
    Calvino Rabeni: Say, guardians, do you invite guests occasionally?

    scribe topic..

    Eliza Madrigal: ...Before the session ends, btw, Thanks everyone who contributed to the Scribe Theme Session yesterday... I'll be sending an email later so that everyone will read and bring ideas/suggestions to the next one :)
    Agatha Macbeth nods
    Eliza Madrigal: I do Cal, sure... once in a while as comes up
    arabella Ella: apologies for having missed the session yesterday Eliza but had RL commitments!
    arabella Ella: yes Calvino occasionally
    Eliza Madrigal: Of course, Ara, no worries. It had a nice energy and we'll be holding more of them :)
    Agatha Macbeth: It got a bit mad ater the first hour Ara
    arabella Ella: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: heheh... yes... flying and riding around in bubbles
    Maxine Walden: wow, the wind...
    Eliza Madrigal: whoooooosh
    arabella Ella: sounds like good crazy fun :)
    Bleu Oleander: feels like holding on to my hairdo
    Eliza Madrigal: indeed :) The scribes *should* be a fun project after all...
    Agatha Macbeth: It was!
    Eliza Madrigal: and the creative energy is great for that :)
    arabella Ella: may I ask current scribes here ... how much time do you reckon doing a scribe task takes up on average?
    Maxine Walden: ( so interesting how the imagination 'creates' or 'completes' the picture here, re the storm, wind, rain: I really feel the wet, soggy, need to button up or put a jacket on)
    Calvino Rabeni: Well, more than I expected - maybe about 4 hours
    Eliza Madrigal: The first two scribes took a little while.... but now it takes me about an hr a month unless I get carried away or pull together more than one, Ara :)
    arabella Ella: and the others?
    Calvino Rabeni: Or longer, if it has some creativity involved
    arabella Ella: ah
    Eos Amaterasu: yeah, can't imagine doing it in less than 3, more like 5
    Eliza Madrigal: yes... it depends on what one puts into it...
    Storm Nordwind remembers a year ago that it regularly took him 5 hours
    Calvino Rabeni: It takes a couple hours just to read the sessions
    Maxine Walden: me as well, when I scribed, 4-5 hours
    Calvino Rabeni: RIght, that's my experience too
    arabella Ella: ok interesting ... was always curious about time
    Eos Amaterasu: Unless it's all "just me and the pavilion"
    Eliza Madrigal: I can think of some that took that long, and others which seemed very simple, where I felt that one idea jumped out prominently
    Eliza Madrigal: I think this is what we need to be talking about.... how to make it creative, well-done, thoughtful AND enjoyable too
    Maxine Walden: have to go, hour's end ....and towel off! Nice discussion.
    Calvino Rabeni: Are there "trends"? After awhile, it seemed more random than progressive.
    Agatha Macbeth: I'm singin' in the rain
    Maxine Walden: bye all
    Eliza Madrigal: Thanks Maxine, everyone.
    Agatha Macbeth: Bye Max
    Bleu Oleander: bye Maxine
    Eliza Madrigal: I apologize but have to be off to another meeting
    arabella Ella: bye Maxine Eliza
    Calvino Rabeni: Bye all from Calvino too
    Bleu Oleander: bye Eliza
    Agatha Macbeth: BFN Eliza :)
    Eos Amaterasu: ditto offo
    Eliza Madrigal: I will plan another scribe session soon... would love to
    Eos Amaterasu: ciao all
    Eliza Madrigal: hear from everyone!
    Eliza Madrigal: Bye for now
    Agatha Macbeth: Bye all
    Storm Nordwind waves
    Lia Rikugun: i will leave too :)
    arabella Ella: must go too bye all
    Riddle Sideways: bye all
    Lia Rikugun: byebye
    Yakuzza Lethecus: bye everyone
    Lia Rikugun: see you soon
    Bleu Oleander: bye all

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