2010.03.16 07:00 - Butterfly Av Relations

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Riddle Sideways. The comments are by Riddle Sideways.

    I forgot to take photos.  The whole last part of this chat is the best, but loses something without the photos.
    Hmmmm, movies would have really been better.  Kitty rolling over, monkey business and the cat rezing into a table.

    Riddle Sideways: oooooo listener Master, your fountain hath butterflies
    Bleu Oleander: hi Riddle
    Riddle Sideways: good morning Bleu
    Riddle Sideways: I like butterflies
    Bleu Oleander: nice, me too. how are you?
    Riddle Sideways: settling mostly
    Riddle Sideways: and you?
    Bleu Oleander: great, a little early here .... but a beautiful morning
    Riddle Sideways: funny the clock reads the same digits, but it is so dark still
    Riddle Sideways: morning Yaku
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hey riddle
    Bleu Oleander: good morning Yaku
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hi bleu :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: still rezzing everyone
    Riddle Sideways: maybe I should turn typing action back on.
    Riddle Sideways: ppl will think I am thinking
    Bleu Oleander: :)
    Riddle Sideways: no
    Bleu Oleander: do you think it helps to have the typing action on?
    Riddle Sideways: not sure
    Bleu Oleander: I've learned to be more patient
    Riddle Sideways: when I see Yaku waving fingers I can anticipate
    Bleu Oleander: I wait a while realizing ppl may be typing
    BS ...
    Riddle Sideways: was trying butterfly sight
    Riddle Sideways: the way butterflies flit
    Riddle Sideways: eyes must jump as they flitter about
    Riddle Sideways: most of my flying is in smooth stright lines
    Riddle Sideways: image flitting
    Riddle Sideways: am I speeling that right?
    Bleu Oleander: (spelling :) )
    Did you ever stare at a word like "flit" and think it is not correct?
    Riddle Sideways: to flit
    Riddle Sideways: prechance to land
    Riddle Sideways: and in the flitting to come upon the teatures
    Riddle Sideways: each stroke of wings takes you somewhere
    Bleu Oleander: brb
    Riddle Sideways: most flying seems to be 'souring'
    Riddle Sideways: or swooping
    Riddle Sideways: here we have purposeful flitting
    Riddle Sideways: a mind allowed to flit
    Bleu Oleander: (back)
    Riddle Sideways: wb
    Bleu Oleander: :)
    Riddle Sideways: did you flit
    Bleu Oleander: flitting many places today
    Riddle Sideways: yesterday was a many flitting time
    Riddle Sideways: hi Liza
    Bleu Oleander: hi Liza!
    Liza Deischer: hi everyone
    Riddle Sideways: please bring in a subject, I seem to be stuck flitting
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hi, liza
    Bleu Oleander: like your goggles :)
    Liza Deischer: hi Yaku :-)
    Liza Deischer: thanks
    Riddle Sideways: flit, ... (is there a past tense of flit)
    Liza Deischer: like them too
    Liza Deischer: :-)
    Finally a subject we can ...
    Liza Deischer: Today I was the weird scientist of an abandoned lab :-)
    Riddle Sideways: oh fun
    Bleu Oleander: an adventure!
    Liza Deischer: it is, I made the lab and wanted to take some photo's
    Bleu Oleander: in sl?
    Liza Deischer: yes
    Bleu Oleander: where is your lab?
    Liza Deischer: ama gi
    Liza Deischer: there will be an opening soon
    Liza Deischer: I can let you know if you want too
    Bleu Oleander: great, invite me
    Riddle Sideways: yes, please invite
    Liza Deischer: the lab is part of a greater .....eh.....thin
    Liza Deischer: I will
    Liza Deischer: thanks Riddle :-)
    Riddle Sideways: I watched the new sherlock holmes movie
    Bleu Oleander: what happens in your lab?
    Riddle Sideways: several visits to labs
    Liza Deischer: :-)
    Riddle Sideways: looking at remains / dirty dishes
    Riddle Sideways: to try to realize what experiment was done
    Liza Deischer: yes, that's the funpart
    Riddle Sideways: an abandoned lab would be great
    Riddle Sideways: hmmmmm, 100ml of something missing?
    Liza Deischer: yes, an abandoned medical lab to be precise
    Liza Deischer: :-)
    Liza Deischer: and i twas a lot of fun to make it
    Riddle Sideways: very nice typo
    Liza Deischer: :-)
    Riddle Sideways: does it have 2 wooden chairs with metal dishes above where heads would be?
    Riddle Sideways: for mind transfers
    Liza Deischer: no
    Liza Deischer: could have been
    Yakuzza Lethecus: brain´s in vat´s ?
    Liza Deischer: no
    Liza Deischer: I say no to everything :-)
    Liza Deischer: you just need to wait
    Liza Deischer: heheheh
    Riddle Sideways: 17 more questions
    Riddle Sideways: lab animals in cages ?
    Riddle Sideways: when I read the chat logs of PaB
    Riddle Sideways: it is like reviewing other peoples experiments
    Liza Deischer: one little hint

    Bleu Oleander: :)
    Bleu Oleander loves hints!
    Liza Deischer: :-)
    Bleu Oleander: nice photo
    Riddle Sideways: oooo the great neon green poison
    Liza Deischer: :-)
    Riddle Sideways: reminds of the game Myst
    Liza Deischer: yes, but that one is much better, I can tell you
    Liza Deischer: loved Myst
    Riddle Sideways: yes, I should have finished the second
    Riddle Sideways: was there a third?
    Liza Deischer: I did the fourth
    Liza Deischer: and there is a fifth
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i just did the first
    Liza Deischer: I believe it was the fourth
    Bleu Oleander: i've never done any of them
    Bleu Oleander: should i?
    Riddle Sideways: oh dear, I must take several months off and play them
    Liza Deischer: but I got stuck and refused to look in the handout
    Yakuzza Lethecus: it´s very old, at least 13 years ?
    Liza Deischer: the first one yes
    Bleu Oleander: somehow i missed it
    Riddle Sideways: so beautiful though
    Liza Deischer: has been released twice, it seems
    Riddle Sideways: a bit disturbing
    Liza Deischer: the second time you can look around
    Bleu Oleander: how so?
    Riddle Sideways: ok, a lot disturbing
    Liza Deischer: the firts are only pictures
    Liza Deischer: but if you like adventures bleu, then you can't miss Myst
    Riddle Sideways: and great puzzles
    Bleu Oleander: i'll try it
    Liza Deischer: I hope it is still available
    Riddle Sideways: the back story of the warped brothers is creepy
    Bleu Oleander: how do you play it?
    Bleu Oleander: online?
    Riddle Sideways: It should still run on new machines and would load faster
    Riddle Sideways: no offline
    Riddle Sideways: from CDrom
    Liza Deischer: well, this game is older then the online games
    Liza Deischer: but it is a lot of fun
    Liza Deischer: adventure games are hardly made anymore
    Liza Deischer: there not fast
    Bleu Oleander: i see they have Myst for iPhone
    Liza Deischer: you need to solve puzzles
    Liza Deischer: okay!
    Riddle Sideways: oooo maybe Myst on Android
    Riddle Sideways: that would be so surreal
    Liza Deischer: on iPhone is nice
    Riddle Sideways: The sound F/X in a dark room at night were especially good
    Riddle Sideways: would be hard to get that during daylight on an airplane and iPhone
    Riddle Sideways: Morning Widget
    Widget Whiteberry: good morning
    Liza Deischer: hi Widget
    Bleu Oleander: hi Widget
    Widget Whiteberry: please continue, I'll catch up
    Riddle Sideways: we were flitting
    Riddle Sideways: in the Myst
    Widget Whiteberry: ☆smiles☆
    Riddle Sideways: would it be hard to be a butterfly av?
    Widget Whiteberry: I've not seen one but no harder than any other
    Liza Deischer: sorry?
    Riddle Sideways: would you think bad thoughts (or none) of me if I were a butterfly
    Liza Deischer: where does that thought come from, I wonder
    Riddle Sideways: it flitted into me
    Widget Whiteberry: bad thoughts of what sort, Riddle?
    Riddle Sideways: would it be hard to relate with a butterfly Av here
    Widget Whiteberry: hmmm, not in SL, not particularly
    Bleu Oleander: can you be a butterfly AV?
    Bleu Oleander: that would be cool
    Riddle Sideways: can be a teddy bear or a lion
    Widget Whiteberry: the appearance of our avs is only one aspect of our presentation
    Liza Deischer: I have no idea
    Widget Whiteberry: of our presence
    Bleu Oleander: has anyone designed a butterfly av?
    Bleu Oleander: Riddle you should do that!
    Widget Whiteberry: I think so, yes
    Riddle Sideways: would you relate differently to a different presentation
    Widget Whiteberry: well yes
    Widget Whiteberry: but I include rather a lot under 'presentation'
    Bleu Oleander: yes, I think so, but don't know for sure til i see you
    Widget Whiteberry: I include what you say and do
    Liza Deischer: XLsreet tells me there are avatar butterflys
    Riddle Sideways: TY, will look it up
    Riddle Sideways: there was a huge dragon here once
    Liza Deischer: thanks :-)
    Riddle Sideways: was hard to relate to the woman
    Riddle Sideways: there were often lions and bears
    Riddle Sideways: a lion sitting across your lap will temper your conversional style :)
    Liza Deischer: what do you mean Riddle?
    Widget Whiteberry: Riddle, what did you notice about it being hard to relate to the woman?
    Riddle Sideways: Thanks widget,
    Riddle Sideways: I can't do that this fast
    Widget Whiteberry: If I show you a different projection of Widget ....
    Bleu Oleander: cool!
    Widget Whiteberry: one who saves outfits (that's the trick)
    Widget Whiteberry: am I a different being?
    Riddle Sideways: is tempered with having met you before
    Widget Whiteberry: yes, you have a string of moments to attach to this appearance
    Riddle Sideways: never having met an av that takes up over half this pavilon
    Widget Whiteberry: Does this Leafy Sea Dragon appearance add ot your understanding of me?
    Riddle Sideways: actually it does
    Widget Whiteberry: ☆smiles☆
    Widget Whiteberry: what does it add?
    Bleu Oleander: :-D
    Riddle Sideways: like all the questions we ask of all the other av presentations here
    Riddle Sideways: why would ____ pick that presentation for this situation
    Widget Whiteberry pouts, disappointed not to have the feedback
    Riddle Sideways: what is _____ trying to say about herself
    Widget Whiteberry: ah, we could also ask ourselves what we project onto this new appearance of another
    Bleu Oleander: good question Widget
    Riddle Sideways: not the same experiment because we are set up to relate to widget
    Widget Whiteberry: hmmm
    Liza Deischer: maybe, but then the avatar wants to evoke something?
    Widget Whiteberry: I think our avatars evoke plenty, in both ourselves and others
    Bleu Oleander: feels diff with the cat
    Bleu Oleander: somehow softer
    Bleu Oleander: very cute!
    Yakuzza Lethecus: she will catch the butterflies
    Liza Deischer: I don't know: softer ? :-)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: aware
    Riddle Sideways: maybe have always wanted to pet a seahorse, but kitty is more cuddily
    Liza Deischer: but it feels different yes
    Bleu Oleander: cats seem gentler to me
    Widget Whiteberry: hospitality widget
    Bleu Oleander: even though potential conflict with butterflys !
    Widget Whiteberry: donut, anyone?
    Riddle Sideways: incredibly neat watching the rez
    Bleu Oleander: don't relate to this at all
    Liza Deischer: it's not living
    Bleu Oleander: but does make me long for a chocolate covered donut!
    Widget Whiteberry: to tea tray widget?
    Bleu Oleander: and a cafe latte
    Liza Deischer: maybe even on sl we make that difference
    Bleu Oleander: :)
    Liza Deischer: you're making us hungry Widget :-)
    Widget Whiteberry: lol
    Bleu Oleander: ha!
    Widget Whiteberry: I'm curious though
    Riddle Sideways: to discuss butterflies with serving tray widget is just different
    Liza Deischer: hahah
    Liza Deischer: it is
    Bleu Oleander: you're just going bananas Widget
    Widget Whiteberry: and monkey widget?
    Liza Deischer: how many av's do you have Widget?
    Riddle Sideways: it should not be so in SL, but it is
    Widget Whiteberry: I have my primary which you generally see
    Bleu Oleander: quite a show!
    Widget Whiteberry: and I have a collection that serve various purposes
    Bleu Oleander: have you made these?
    Widget Whiteberry: no no
    Liza Deischer: they are really neat
    Riddle Sideways: with an ounce of talent and lots of time we could make them
    Widget Whiteberry: there are many creative folks in SL ... I've needed to find their work ... as part of doing mine
    Widget Whiteberry: blah!
    Bleu Oleander: curious, what purpose does the donut tray serve?
    Widget Whiteberry: a kind of anonymity
    Riddle Sideways: was afraid you would ask
    Widget Whiteberry: and leaving bodies behind
    Liza Deischer: :-)
    Widget Whiteberry: but also, for the fun of it
    Bleu Oleander: do you feel emotions?
    Widget Whiteberry: me? of course
    Bleu Oleander: does it detach you from your av?
    Widget Whiteberry: regardless of my presentation here, I am an integrated being
    Bleu Oleander: as a tray i mean
    Liza Deischer: You realize Bleu you are talking to a monkey
    Riddle Sideways: probably not as much as we detact from widget
    Bleu Oleander: ha!
    Bleu Oleander: monkeys are easier to talk to than a tray
    Widget Whiteberry: I find the tea tray widget to be a funny thing
    Bleu Oleander: i talk to my dogs all the time
    Widget Whiteberry: yes, I have a monkey friend who I find very easy to talk with
    Liza Deischer: and it feels playful, light
    Bleu Oleander: don't think i have ever talked to a tray
    Liza Deischer: :-)
    Widget Whiteberry: yes, but is also frequently deep
    Liza Deischer: I was refering to the monkey by the way
    Widget Whiteberry: hmm, I don't think I've ever been talked with as a tea tray, not in a substantive way
    Liza Deischer: less luggage, it see,s
    Bleu Oleander: whew, thought you meant the tray Liza
    Widget Whiteberry: well, the hour is past and I've notices to send
    Bleu Oleander: so the tray probably puts a barrier between you and other av's
    Widget Whiteberry: hmm, yes
    Widget Whiteberry: as you said before, it's not something we think to relate to
    Bleu Oleander: fun thoughts to reflect on today .... thanks Widget!
    Riddle Sideways: pitty we put those barriers
    Widget Whiteberry: monkey = clever = pet-able = amusing
    Widget Whiteberry: maybe not a barrier, Riddle
    Riddle Sideways: yes, loaded word we don't like to say
    Bleu Oleander: tray = impersonal = not living = no personality
    Widget Whiteberry: we relate differently to wrenches, stoves and bricks as Bleu points out
    Widget Whiteberry: at best they are things we use
    Liza Deischer: yes
    Widget Whiteberry: the pity is when we relate to living things as if they were tea trays or wrenches
    Riddle Sideways: seahorse is sort of between those two sides
    Widget Whiteberry: sea dragon is a living thing, but an unexpected one
    Bleu Oleander: seahorse is deff on the side of life .... wrenches not so much !
    Riddle Sideways: oh yes widget, I have a co-worker like that
    Riddle Sideways: and a boss that treats us like a set of tools
    Widget Whiteberry: a co-worker who relates to people as if they were tools for his use?
    Widget Whiteberry: that's unfortunate, Riddle
    Riddle Sideways: not a very nice management style
    Bleu Oleander: must go, thanks everyone! see you all later :)
    Widget Whiteberry: very dysfunctional
    Widget Whiteberry: by Blue
    Yakuzza Lethecus: bye everyone
    Liza Deischer: somehow we even seem to think that is normal in working relationships
    Widget Whiteberry: I need to go shortly too
    Bleu Oleander: bye
    Liza Deischer: buy Bleu
    Riddle Sideways: thanks blea
    Riddle Sideways: thanks all
    Riddle Sideways: is discussions like this that I come for
    Liza Deischer: bye evryone
    Liza Deischer: :-)
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