2010.03.20 13:00 - Welcome to PaB, Stop and have a bite

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    The Guardian for this meeting was SophiaSharon Larnia. Comments are by Agatha MacBeth, Anaise Vaughn (new), arabella Ella,Bertram Jacobus, Coder Criss (new), Eden Haiku,  Mickorod Renard, stevenaia Michinaga, Susi Alcott, Qt Core, Zen Arado and myself.

    This session began with the arrival of several new avatars who have never been to a play as being session before. As I describe what the group means to me, I realize that it means something slightly different for everyone.

    SophiaSharon Larnia: Hi Qt :)
    Qt Core: hi Sophia
    SophiaSharon Larnia: how are you? Is it as lovely there as it is here in Pa?
    Qt Core: quite good with a little rain
    SophiaSharon Larnia: HI Coder, HI Anaise
    Coder Criss: hello :)
    Anaise Vaughan: Hi :)
    Coder Criss: can we join you?
    Qt Core: hi coder, anaise
    SophiaSharon Larnia: please do :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: have either of you been here before? at a play as being group?
    Coder Criss: no
    Anaise Vaughan: no
    Coder Criss: i was zapping around and found the note today
    SophiaSharon Larnia: did you take a notecard at the entrance ?
    Coder Criss: yes :)
    Anaise Vaughan: yes:)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: nice
    Coder Criss: i looked at the wiki also, looked interesting :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes, you know we record our sessions and post them on the wiki then?
    Coder Criss: yes, i saw that
    Anaise Vaughan nods
    Qt Core: there are no more the old nice noobs ;-)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: and thats ok with you both??
    SophiaSharon Larnia: ahh lol I havent even gotten that far yet
    Anaise Vaughan: yes
    Coder Criss: yes
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
    Coder Criss: What i did not really understood is, for what purpose the experiment is
    Coder Criss: or what the experiment entails exactly
    SophiaSharon Larnia: well, Im still working it out myself and I've been coming here for a while
    Coder Criss: i can understand
    SophiaSharon Larnia: some may have different answers, I can only speak for myself
    Qt Core: in the end i think there is just one big experiment: life
    SophiaSharon Larnia: nods
    Coder Criss: well for sure
    Coder Criss: it is fresh however to see such a group, bit more serieus then the mainstream
    Coder Criss: serious
    Coder Criss: so, i'm very curious :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: for me its been to explore what being 'is', after dropping the identifications that I've accumulated in life, 'being' having many different names
    Anaise Vaughan: me too...
    SophiaSharon Larnia: Hi Agatha :)
    Qt Core: as i see it this group is also trying to vanish some of the seriousness about such topics
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes that too!!!!!
    Coder Criss: hello :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Hi SSL, QT :)
    Qt Core: hi agatha
    Agatha Macbeth: Hello
    Anaise Vaughan: Hi Agatha
    Coder Criss: so basically is playful philosophy
    Coder Criss: right?
    Coder Criss: :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes indeed!!
    Coder Criss: hehehe
    Coder Criss: it's good to look at it seriously, but not take it too serious
    SophiaSharon Larnia: Hi newbie
    Coder Criss: hello :)
    newbie: hi sophia
    newbie: where am i
    SophiaSharon Larnia: this is a play as being group, newbie, have you been here before?
    newbie: no
    SophiaSharon Larnia: ok, you are new to sl :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: welcome
    newbie: yes i am
    newbie: ty
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i'll talk to you in IM as to not disturb the others :)
    Anaise Vaughan: what are we talking about today?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: during the bell we stop and drop in a meditative sense, like it says on the wiki
    Qt Core: no topic yet, we rarely have planned topics
    Qt Core: ry to drop ;-)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: for 90 seconds here, longer then the 9 sec in rl
    Qt Core: try
    Agatha Macbeth: Or if we do it rarely works that way :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes
    Coder Criss: ah aye
    Anaise Vaughan: ok
    Coder Criss: will drift quick ofc
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I have to say im discombulated by some many new people here, we can go several days with out one :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Wake up Qt :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: so many*
    SophiaSharon Larnia: HI Ara :)
    arabella Ella: Hiya
    Anaise Vaughan: Hi arabella
    Agatha Macbeth: Hello Ara :)
    Coder Criss: hi :)
    Qt Core: :-) hi ara
    SophiaSharon Larnia: sometimes there are theme sessions, most often talking about things that are of interest atm
    Agatha Macbeth nods
    Anaise Vaughan: where is everyone from?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: im on the east coast usa
    Agatha Macbeth: England
    Qt Core: italy
    Coder Criss: Holland
    Anaise Vaughan: I am in Belgium
    arabella Ella: I'm from Malta in the Mediterranean ... where are you from?
    newbie: bahrain
    arabella Ella: ciao Qt!!!
    arabella Ella: are all of you from bahrain?
    Coder Criss: oh wow
    SophiaSharon Larnia: one of the more diverse gatherings :)
    arabella Ella: yes but predominantly european at this time :)
    Coder Criss: you are upset tho sophia of the newcomers?
    Coder Criss: im not sure what discombobulated means, so looked it up :P
    SophiaSharon Larnia: ooh im sure i spelled it wrong
    Agatha Macbeth: It's American ;-)
    Qt Core: surprised and a little shocked ;-)
    arabella Ella: ?
    arabella Ella: what does it mean? and what is the context as must have missed that?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: noooo not at all, just have to say what the group is about, is all
    Agatha Macbeth: B4 you arrived Ara
    arabella Ella: ah
    SophiaSharon Larnia: too strong a word then LOL
    Coder Criss: :)
    Coder Criss: how long you all been with these meetings?
    Agatha Macbeth: Only about five months in my case
    arabella Ella: over a year in my case
    Anaise Vaughan: that's a lifetime in SL :)
    Coder Criss: ah wow, yes
    SophiaSharon Larnia: less than a year for me by a month
    SophiaSharon Larnia: it is Anaise indeed
    arabella Ella: if i remember correctly the group has existed for nearly two years now
    arabella Ella: i guess we are due to celebrate two years soon
    Agatha Macbeth: Since April 2008
    Coder Criss: that is very long for a group to survive, active
    Coder Criss: still active i mean
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes and its very active
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh it's active alright!
    Coder Criss: i can see that
    arabella Ella: well it is like meeting RL friends here as we get to know each other very well
    arabella Ella: and some of us have met in RL too and we feel we have known each other for ages
    Coder Criss: ah nice :)
    Anaise Vaughan: ce :)
    Anaise Vaughan: nice :)
    Coder Criss: sorry if i ask many questions, just curious :)
    arabella Ella: feel free
    SophiaSharon Larnia: please ask :)
    Agatha Macbeth: No learning without questions :)
    Coder Criss: true that
    arabella Ella: and curiousity is something i think people need to cherish and cultivate more
    Agatha Macbeth: Unless they are cats ;-)
    Coder Criss: I'm sure many of you had a reason to do this, also with many questions... seeing you do this for a long time, you think you got some questions answered?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: Hi Zen :)
    Coder Criss: hello zen
    arabella Ella: Aga ... british irony again!
    Zen Arado: Hi all:)
    Anaise Vaughan: hi Zen
    Agatha Macbeth: Hello dere Zen :)
    arabella Ella: Hiya Zen
    SophiaSharon Larnia: interesting question Coder, as you know, asking leads to me questions, but Ive been able to relax how I ask the questions
    arabella Ella: i think we explore questions rather than attempt to find answers IMHO
    SophiaSharon Larnia: to more*
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes
    Coder Criss: ah yes
    SophiaSharon Larnia: Hi Stevenaia :)
    arabella Ella: my feeling is that we all wish to find more meaning in life and we are ... or seem to me to be ... on a quest to achieve that as much as possible
    stevenaia Michinaga: hello
    arabella Ella: Hiya Steve, Susi
    Agatha Macbeth: Hi Steve
    SophiaSharon Larnia: HI Susi :))
    Zen Arado: Hi Susi :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: :)
    Zen Arado: Hi Steve:)
    Susi Alcott: _/!\_ to all
    Agatha Macbeth: Hello
    Susi Alcott: sorry I mixed the hour again
    arabella Ella: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Don't we all? :(
    Susi Alcott: ah...then all might be well _/!\_
    SophiaSharon Larnia: its a place to talk about our experiences with the 9 sec stops, but lots of other topics come up, as you saw on the wiki
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i will brb, afk :)
    arabella Ella: i think we would all like to put pressure to get USA and Europe in synch re DST
    Agatha Macbeth: Would help
    Zen Arado: or just stop it altogether
    Zen Arado: what is the advantage?
    Agatha Macbeth: Mmm that too
    arabella Ella: longer days with more sunshine for me
    Agatha Macbeth: Extra hour's daylight when awake presumably
    Zen Arado: but the days are the same length?
    arabella Ella: but it is light for longer in summer
    Qt Core: more sunshine, less electricity for lighting (teoretically)
    arabella Ella nods to Qt
    Zen Arado: you could go to bed later or get up later or something?
    Agatha Macbeth: Or come to PaB later :)
    arabella Ella: please dont ask me to get up earlier ... impossible!
    Agatha Macbeth: Me too
    arabella Ella hates mornings
    Agatha Macbeth: Me too!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: smiles
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i love the very early morning when the sun comes up
    Agatha Macbeth: Takes me about an hor to wake up usually
    Agatha Macbeth: hour
    SophiaSharon Larnia: but then I work nights ;p
    arabella Ella: at least :)
    Agatha Macbeth: You do?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes
    Zen Arado: but we could adjust out own times couldn't we
    Agatha Macbeth: Ooh
    Zen Arado: if we could get employers to agree too
    Agatha Macbeth: There's the rub dear boy
    Qt Core: or even work from home (depending on the job)
    Zen Arado: Aye
    arabella Ella: yes who knows what the future of work will bring ... what with many of us being connected 24/7
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I adjust my own times Zen ahahah
    Qt Core: tried it when i had a broken habd and could not drive, i can't, too distractions at home
    Qt Core: hand
    Zen Arado: I tend to get up earlier in Summer
    Agatha Macbeth: It's a lot easier to wake up when it's light, I agree
    arabella Ella: it is lovely here in summer to go to the beach late afternoon or early evening
    arabella Ella: when it is still light
    arabella Ella: and we don't have twilight here
    arabella Ella: too far south
    Agatha Macbeth: We lost Steve :(
    arabella Ella: owwww he must av crashed
    Agatha Macbeth: He must have Fefozitis ;-)
    arabella Ella: ??
    Agatha Macbeth: +n
    arabella Ella: what has Fef to do with it?
    Agatha Macbeth: He's always doing that too
    arabella Ella: ah
    SophiaSharon Larnia: brb again sorry
    Agatha Macbeth: WB Sharon
    arabella Ella: a few questions for Qt if you dont mind?
    Qt Core: shit
    arabella Ella: :)
    Qt Core: ops shot
    Agatha Macbeth: Who has?
    arabella Ella: easy ones today
    arabella Ella: moi
    Agatha Macbeth: (Phew)
    Zen Arado: mastermind :)
    arabella Ella: so Qt was yesterday like Father's Day in Italy?
    Qt Core: yes
    arabella Ella: and was it a public holiday too?
    Agatha Macbeth: I've started so I'll finish....
    Qt Core: no it is not public nor religious, informal
    Zen Arado: commercial in other words?
    Agatha Macbeth: Probably
    arabella Ella: ah ... here it was a public holiday but not Father's Day ... just saw that on Italian TV and was surprised
    arabella Ella: St Joseph
    Qt Core: not even, usually kids make something atrsy at school to gift theyr fathers
    Zen Arado: who started Father's day?
    Susi Alcott: ppl in USA
    arabella Ella: and my second question to Qt is ...
    arabella Ella: for St Joseph we eat Zeppoli a sweet with ricotta and honey
    arabella Ella: do you have them too?
    Agatha Macbeth: Yum
    Qt Core: yes, in sicily, zeppole is the name there
    Zen Arado: ricotta cheese?
    arabella Ella: yes
    arabella Ella: like small balls of chouix pastry filled with sweet ricotta and covered with honey and chopped nuts
    arabella Ella: and the name Zeppoli or Zeppole comes from GiuZZeppi
    Qt Core: something very low on calories ;-)
    Agatha Macbeth: Gotta love small balls
    arabella Ella: :)
    Coder Criss: lol
    arabella Ella: just ate a few ... delicious and yummy
    Agatha Macbeth: Mmm
    Agatha Macbeth: Indeed
    arabella Ella: we also have Quarezimal ... do you have that too Qt?
    arabella Ella: and Figolli for Easter
    Agatha Macbeth: Sounds like an Aztec god
    arabella Ella: Quare is for the 40 days of lent
    Qt Core: never heard the names, ;-) Quaresima = lent
    Coder Criss: the god of sugar
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh
    Zen Arado: we just have chocolate eggs
    arabella Ella: one of the few sweets one was permitted in the past
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah
    arabella Ella: oh we have the eggs too
    Qt Core: from quatanta= forty
    arabella Ella: yes
    Agatha Macbeth nods
    Qt Core: quaranta (terrible spelling tonight, sorry)
    arabella Ella giggles
    Agatha Macbeth pokes QT
    Qt Core: ouch
    arabella Ella: so no Quarezimal and no Figolli Qt?
    Agatha Macbeth: Not that hard!
    Qt Core: no, ara
    arabella Ella: oh ... we also have hot cross buns in lent ... wonder where those came from and what their significance is?
    Zen Arado: yes we have those too
    Zen Arado: for Easter
    arabella Ella: yes
    Zen Arado: Jesus dying on the cross?
    arabella Ella: our traditions are quite mixed a bit of british legacy plus some mediterranean ones
    arabella Ella: i guess the cross is somehow significant
    arabella Ella: like holy buns?
    Zen Arado: that's what Easter commorates
    SophiaSharon Larnia: back, and singing hot cross buns thanks alot llol
    Agatha Macbeth: Very signficant Ara!
    Zen Arado: but rising from the dead too
    arabella Ella: yes
    Agatha Macbeth: Yep
    Zen Arado: commemorates
    Zen Arado: my pselling bad tonight too
    Zen Arado: spelling
    Coder Criss: do you all have different religions... or not really speak about that?
    Susi Alcott: have no religion
    Susi Alcott: but know many
    arabella Ella: we have lots of Good Friday processions here too ... a huge local and tourist attraction .. and on Easter we have processions with the Risen Christ
    Zen Arado: is Buddhism a religion?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I think we are diverse
    Susi Alcott: ah no
    Coder Criss: not really zen
    Susi Alcott: indeed not
    Agatha Macbeth: No gods...
    arabella Ella: yes i think we are very diverse here
    Susi Alcott: but sadly some people have made that to be the religion to them
    Coder Criss: you discuss it?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: if it comes up :)
    Agatha Macbeth: More like a non-religion...
    arabella Ella: of course we discuss various religions and beliefs and practice
    Susi Alcott: but to me all of the religions are part of the wider truth
    Agatha Macbeth nods
    arabella Ella: please say more Susi if you coulld?
    Coder Criss: I think the same Susi
    Coder Criss: although closest would be buddism
    Susi Alcott: as imo all of the religions are people's try to tell about the truth they have experienced
    Susi Alcott: as all the religions are anyway created by people
    Zen Arado: or what they were brought up to believe
    arabella Ella nods
    SophiaSharon Larnia: nods
    Susi Alcott: that is also creation when one helps any idea to spread
    arabella Ella: our cultural upbringing influenes our beliefs to a great extent i feel
    Zen Arado: some never question their religion of birth i think
    SophiaSharon Larnia: Hi Bertram :)
    arabella Ella: so does our geography somehow
    Susi Alcott: the whole turth always includes also people's beliefs which they live to come true
    arabella Ella: Hiya Bert :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Guten Abend Berti :)
    Coder Criss: hello :)
    Zen Arado: Guten Abend Bert
    Susi Alcott: good morning Bert
    Zen Arado: hope you sre right Aga :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Me too :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Still blue then Bert?
    Bertram Jacobus: yes. sry - felt silent ... and hello all :-)
    Susi Alcott: _/!\_
    Zen Arado: wonders what it is like to feel silent
    Bertram Jacobus: it´s wonderful !
    Agatha Macbeth: Quiet?
    Susi Alcott: _/!\_
    Bertram Jacobus: peace
    Zen Arado: I see
    Susi Alcott: and warmth
    Bertram Jacobus: yes
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I have to go, bye for now all :))
    Bertram Jacobus: bye sophia ...
    Qt Core: bye Sophia
    Agatha Macbeth: Bye Sharon take care
    Zen Arado: bye Sharon :)
    Coder Criss: bye sophia :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: waves :)
    Susi Alcott: _/!\_ Sophia
    arabella Ella: if you join one of the retreats you may learn and experience the feeling of silence Aga
    arabella Ella: bye SSL
    Anaise Vaughan: bye Sophia
    Coder Criss: your have read the book of death susi?
    Coder Criss: you*
    Zen Arado: silence is hard to find
    Bertram Jacobus: matter of time zen i´d say ...
    Bertram Jacobus: only matter of time ...
    Coder Criss: i wondered, because you said about not remembering birth
    Zen Arado: there is usually noise in the background no matter where you go
    arabella Ella: i was very surprised with the experience of the silent day during the retreat ... a very pleasant surprise
    arabella Ella: the only noise in the background was the humming of bees in the countryside
    Agatha Macbeth: Unfortunately yes Zen
    Susi Alcott: the silence is alwys inside one
    Zen Arado: yes ...the stillness
    Qt Core: i usually get more noise from inside than outside
    Bertram Jacobus: yess ara - that was really very nice ... :-)
    arabella Ella smiles
    Susi Alcott: -> Zen so might it be that you have experiensed that often, but have not connected it to the word 'silence'
    Zen Arado: the word 'silence' refers to environmental noise for me
    Zen Arado: prefer 'stillness'
    Susi Alcott: in buddhism that phrase might been 'described' with the word 'emptyness'
    Zen Arado: absense od noise rather
    Zen Arado: yes
    Bertram Jacobus: words ...
    Susi Alcott: _/!\_
    Zen Arado: but the stillness can be there even if there is a lot of external noise
    Zen Arado: stillness inside
    Bertram Jacobus: agree
    Zen Arado: always there
    Susi Alcott: thinks that no person can live at least long human life withouht experiencing this phrase for the strength now and them
    Bertram Jacobus: heyya mick ! ... :-)
    Zen Arado: Hi Mick :)
    Susi Alcott: to one person that is always there; to an other seldom...
    Agatha Macbeth: Yo Mick :)
    Coder Criss: hi mick :)
    Mickorod Renard: hi guys
    Susi Alcott: _/!\_ Mick
    Qt Core: hi mick
    arabella Ella: Hiya Mick!
    Zen Arado: Guten Abend Mick
    Mickorod Renard: how are u all?
    Susi Alcott: _/!\_
    arabella Ella: very well thanks!
    Agatha Macbeth: All the better for seeing you dear
    Zen Arado: pas mal
    Mickorod Renard: he he ,,ty
    Qt Core: quite good
    Mickorod Renard: bien
    arabella Ella: and how are you Mick?
    Agatha Macbeth: Alors
    arabella Ella: ca va bien?
    Zen Arado: commanr ca va?
    Mickorod Renard: I am fine thanks,,happy I am now connected
    Zen Arado: comment ca va?
    Zen Arado: my French spelling is bad too
    Mickorod Renard: ca va bien mercy
    arabella Ella: he he
    Agatha Macbeth: Zen spells french worse than english ;-)))
    Mickorod Renard: merci
    Zen Arado: mercy?
    Mickorod Renard: he he
    Susi Alcott: lol
    Zen Arado: c'est vrai :)
    Agatha Macbeth: D'accord
    arabella Ella: So Susi ... if I may ask ... what do you see as the value of silence?
    Susi Alcott: the sorce of life
    Susi Alcott: that is
    Mickorod Renard: I could do with saucing up my life
    Zen Arado: I have been going to silent zen retreats for about 6 years now
    arabella Ella: some ketchup perhaps Mick?
    Agatha Macbeth: Don't be saucy Mick
    Susi Alcott: (needs the dictionary)
    Mickorod Renard: :)
    arabella Ella: or Worchester?
    Zen Arado: and I don't really notice the silence now
    Mickorod Renard: worcester
    Bertram Jacobus: may be a good sign zen : you look deep may be
    arabella Ella: or felfel would make you more saucy
    Agatha Macbeth knows it well
    Zen Arado: there is still so much goes on anyway
    Susi Alcott: might than Zen be cuz you share the local phenomenas atm so strongly ?
    Zen Arado: there is still body language
    Anaise Vaughan: thank you for having us
    Anaise Vaughan: have a nice weekend all
    Zen Arado: bye Anaise, Coder
    Mickorod Renard: bye folks,,go well
    arabella Ella: bye Anaise, Coder lovely to meet u both
    Coder Criss: thank you people, will be glad to join another day if i may
    Agatha Macbeth: Bye for now both
    Zen Arado: sure great :)
    Mickorod Renard: great
    arabella Ella: you are both very welcome to do so
    Qt Core: bye anaise and coder, have fun!
    Coder Criss: thank you :)
    Coder Criss: bye :)
    Susi Alcott: _/!\_
    Bertram Jacobus: bye to the leaving beings ...
    arabella Ella: tomorrow is the first day of spring ... spring equinox
    Agatha Macbeth: Yay!
    Zen Arado: about time !
    Mickorod Renard: yes,,seems to av bin a long winter
    arabella Ella: here it is summer already ... seems to be
    arabella Ella: some people were swimming in the sea today ... tourists of course
    Susi Alcott: here is ice and snow still
    Bertram Jacobus: of course ? why is that ? ;-)
    Susi Alcott: from Finland maybe ?
    Zen Arado: it probably feels hot to them :)
    Bertram Jacobus: i meant ara sry ...
    arabella Ella: i was gonna say ... probably from Finland ... he he
    arabella Ella: the sea here is already much warmer than in Finland in summer i guess
    Susi Alcott: understands that easily
    arabella Ella: us locals ... we take it slowly
    arabella Ella: i start swimming in May
    Susi Alcott: where is this your local ?
    Bertram Jacobus: ah ok ty
    Zen Arado: you have surf?
    arabella Ella: altho it is tempting on a lovely day like today
    arabella Ella: I am from Malta Susi in the Mediterranean ... where are u from?
    Zen Arado: big waves?
    Susi Alcott: Finland
    arabella Ella: we rarely have surf
    arabella Ella: ah ... have been to Finland a few times and have many friends there too :)
    Susi Alcott: ah yes; your today's phrase is hot for us here
    arabella Ella: yes
    Susi Alcott: _/!\_
    Mickorod Renard: I had a friend who lived in Pori
    Zen Arado: I lived in Sydney for 8 years and used to surf
    arabella Ella: have been to Oulu, Turku and Helsinki
    Susi Alcott: but we also have 'onsens' to swim in warm water in the middle of ice and snow
    arabella Ella: not much surf in the Med Zen and when there is it is too dangerous as waves are then so high
    Susi Alcott: they sure are man made
    Bertram Jacobus: i´m leaving again - ty for your presence all here ! may all beings be happy please ...
    arabella Ella: nite Bert!
    Susi Alcott: _/!\_ Bert
    Zen Arado: bye Bert :)
    Qt Core: bye bert
    Mickorod Renard: by Bert,,be well
    Agatha Macbeth: Night Bert
    Susi Alcott: and yes; Malta is one such place that finnish people do travel much as the tourist
    arabella Ella: well my friends in Finland are mainly work contacts but they all love to visit
    Susi Alcott: _/!\_
    Zen Arado: David Beckhame had his foot operation in Helsinki
    Susi Alcott: understand
    Zen Arado: must be good doctors Susi :)
    arabella Ella: brb ... RL phone
    Susi Alcott: finnish education and demandings are very high that one may practice anything concerning people's health
    Zen Arado: David Beckham would only go to the best I think
    Susi Alcott: think so too
    Agatha Macbeth: He can certainly afford to
    Mickorod Renard: yes,,he's got the money
    Zen Arado: no NHS for him
    Agatha Macbeth: Good job, he'd probably be retired already
    Qt Core: don't even know if he is going to pay or his team
    Zen Arado: England won't win the wrrld cup now :(
    Susi Alcott: have 'always' thought that Finland could be 'the hospital of the Europe' for many reasons
    Agatha Macbeth: They wouldn't anyway
    Zen Arado: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: No strikers
    Mickorod Renard: have you been on a silent retreat Zen?
    Susi Alcott: the most big reason to that is our 'empty' country with much nature
    Qt Core: it seem that the usual destinantion of injured players is finland,holland or rome
    Zen Arado: yes Mick
    Zen Arado: many
    Mickorod Renard: the have Peter Crouch
    Agatha Macbeth: Exactly
    Mickorod Renard: :)
    Zen Arado: Rooney
    Agatha Macbeth: One man doesn't make a team
    Qt Core: and Capello ;-)
    Zen Arado: exactly :)
    Agatha Macbeth nods
    Agatha Macbeth: Ok, two men
    Mickorod Renard: I was picking up on the reference to silent retreat as I arrived
    Zen Arado: I usually go to 2 or 3 a year
    Mickorod Renard: wow
    Agatha Macbeth: He gets about our Zen!
    Zen Arado: there is one coming up shortly
    Zen Arado: http://www.blackmountainzencentre.org/8.html
    Mickorod Renard: I am ok with silence..I like company
    Zen Arado: it is getting too much for me though
    Mickorod Renard: yes?
    Mickorod Renard: why is that may I ask?
    Zen Arado: my disability
    Mickorod Renard: ahh,,you mean getting to them?
    Zen Arado: place isn't very accessible and I get worn out
    Mickorod Renard: yes
    Agatha Macbeth: Sorry to hear that Zen
    Zen Arado: no being there and keeping up with the schedule
    Mickorod Renard: ahh,,ok I see
    Zen Arado: have to get up at 5.30 am
    Mickorod Renard: yikes
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh dear
    Zen Arado: and it doesn't finish until 9.30 each night
    Mickorod Renard: long days then
    Zen Arado: hours of meditation
    Zen Arado: facing a wall
    Mickorod Renard: mmmmm..I may find that too much as well
    Agatha Macbeth: I certainly would
    Susi Alcott: _/!\_ Arch
    arabella Ella: back
    Agatha Macbeth: Hello Arch
    arabella Ella: Hiya Arch
    Zen Arado: you have to have a meditation practice at home first I think
    Mickorod Renard: Hi Archy
    Zen Arado: Hi Arch
    Qt Core: hi arch
    Zen Arado: then do zazenkai (one day retreats)
    Archmage Atlantis: hi
    Zen Arado: you work up to it
    Zen Arado: the second day is the worst
    Zen Arado: then you kinda get into it
    Zen Arado: and the time passes quickly
    Mickorod Renard: I would have cracked by then
    Zen Arado: it's only the thought of it
    Zen Arado: the mind wants stimulation
    Qt Core: being a "wordy" person i'm strangely attracted and scared by things like that
    Zen Arado: hates stillness
    arabella Ella: I was too Qt
    arabella Ella: and I had no clue how I would react when we had Malta retreat
    arabella Ella: but it went very well and was a great experience
    arabella Ella: with one siltent day
    Zen Arado: after a while there is a strange attractiveness to that silence
    Zen Arado: a peacefulness
    Qt Core: brb
    arabella Ella nods
    Mickorod Renard: I have to go home,,
    arabella Ella: i must go ... g nite all and thanks for interesting chat!
    Susi Alcott: might the movement which is to live, rise from need to get what one do not have...
    Zen Arado: I fnd myself wanting to go for that
    Mickorod Renard: nice seein u all
    Susi Alcott: _/!\_ Mick
    Zen Arado: you too Mick
    Agatha Macbeth: Yes, I'll be moving on too. Take care all
    Zen Arado: I better go too I guess
    Susi Alcott: _/!\_ Agatha
    Zen Arado: bye all
    Susi Alcott: _/!\_ Zen
    Susi Alcott: hm
    Susi Alcott: either of you knows of this 'Talking Stick' ?
    Susi Alcott: ah; got the note card now
    Qt Core: interesting but for sl discussion it should have a script that would mute others ;-)
    Susi Alcott: dont now follow...as one can mute even items when wants....
    Susi Alcott: ah..you mean this stick ?
    Qt Core: yes ;-) and about heated, crowded discussions
    Susi Alcott: hm...
    Susi Alcott: ah ...you mean that it should mute all to other Av's also ?
    Qt Core: yes, don't know how the "passage" could be implemented but i've been in discussion where that would be helpful\
    Susi Alcott: understand you very well, just that cuz anybody having this, could use it also easily the wrong way then...at least untill somebody would eject such person...
    Qt Core: it would me more like a single object than when touched would add the avatar to a list of people booked to speak
    Qt Core: like the president/chancelor in parliament houses
    Susi Alcott: that is good idea
    Susi Alcott: that sure would need the chair man to 'use the list'...then the chairman would have huge power
    Susi Alcott: sure it would need people to chooce and give that power
    Qt Core: no people, all scripted (as for my idea)
    Susi Alcott: ah ok
    Susi Alcott: imo
    Susi Alcott: no matter the rule when it's accepted with all paritcipants
    Qt Core: with nice people nothing like that is needed, that would be a noxious people controlling device
    Qt Core: obnoxious
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hey everyone
    Yakuzza Lethecus: 2 hrs overtime :)
    Susi Alcott: _/!\_ Yakuzza
    Yakuzza Lethecus: what´s the topic ?
    Qt Core: at the moment the talking stick
    Qt Core: hi yaku, btw
    Qt Core: we were thinking about a scripted object that would gave out the right to tak and mute the others and manage a booking system for people wanting to talk
    Yakuzza Lethecus: yes, i saw something like that on the roadside philosophers today
    Susi Alcott: (interesting title; used to call my pa and me as the child to be 'kitchen philosophers)
    Susi Alcott: -> both of you ;what would you suggest to be the time to have the right to speak ?
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hmm, i believe we often don´t need a talking stick because there ain´t that many too talkative ppl around :)
    Qt Core: when no one else is and you have something useful to say ?
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i rarely consider what i want to say as useful
    Qt Core: yes, useful was too strong, not bad
    Susi Alcott: ah; as the base Qt's idea is to mute desturbing Avatars
    Qt Core: would suffice
    Qt Core: maybe even them have something to say, a different point of view, the problem is having everyone have the chance to tell theirs
    Yakuzza Lethecus: a combination of radar and talking stick would be great
    Yakuzza Lethecus: to have a list of ppl in one mode whom are supposed to speak
    Yakuzza Lethecus: and another time a mederation mode where one gives the rights to someboedy in the list manually
    Qt Core: i was more about an object that when touched would add you to a list of "going to speek" people
    Yakuzza Lethecus: and then a mode where maybe the first locks his right for a while
    Yakuzza Lethecus: yes as another mode maybe
    Yakuzza Lethecus: good night now
    Qt Core: this is one of the script i have in my "script i want to create if i ever start scripting"
    Qt Core: night yaku
    Susi Alcott: hm...might he crashed...
    Qt Core: mmm, he said good night
    Susi Alcott: or there's huge chat lag again bothering me ?
    Susi Alcott: ah ok
    Susi Alcott: didn't get that
    Susi Alcott: have got this chat lag quite much lately
    Qt Core: i had a little an hour ago
    Susi Alcott: _/!\_
    Susi Alcott: not so long ago all my IM's was captured
    Susi Alcott: imo such lags that makes probs to communication creates much sad things
    Qt Core: never had real problems, now thinking about how can impact
    Eden Haiku: Would you like to sit a few minutes and see how it is like? Or not?
    guest: sure
    Susi Alcott: _/!\_ Eden
    Qt Core: hi eden
    Eden Haiku: Hi Qt,
    Susi Alcott: _/!\_ guest
    Qt Core: and hi guest
    guest: hi
    Eden Haiku: I was showing my friend around. I did not know the meeting was still on.
    Eden Haiku: Have you been here from the beginning?
    Qt Core: between being to lazy to go elsewere and the people coming late for dst i'm still here ;-)
    Qt Core: yes
    Eden Haiku: Wonderful to see you Qt. And Susi, it has been a while!
    Susi Alcott: _/!\_
    Eden Haiku: Were you discussing a special topic?
    Susi Alcott: where more with silence
    Eden Haiku: Oh, let us share your silence for a little while then.
    Susi Alcott: _/!\_
    Eden Haiku: We will be moving on now, Thank you both for this moment,
    Qt Core: thank you
    Susi Alcott: thank you Eden and guest
    Qt Core: time to go, have to do a couple things before sleeping
    Susi Alcott: wish you pleasent night
    Susi Alcott: and thank you _/!\_
    Qt Core: sleep well you too Susi
    Susi Alcott: _/!\_
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