2010.03.25 13:00 - music in the head

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Lia Rikugun. The comments are by Lia Rikugun.

    Lia Rikugun: hello calvino
    Calvino Rabeni: Hi Lia

    there just had been a little story about Play as Being on the blog "New World Notes" http://nwn.blogs.com/nwn/2010/03/play-as-being-in-second-life.html, so we were curious to see if new visitors would come to the pavilion

    Lia Rikugun: so maybe we will have a crowded session troday ! :)
    Calvino Rabeni: Yes I am just reading the blog about this place
    Lia Rikugun: hello susi
    Lia Rikugun: autch you are standing on my head
    Lia Rikugun: hehe
    Susi Alcott: _/!\_
    Susi Alcott: please accept my apology
    Susi Alcott: had not rezzed
    Lia Rikugun: of course no problem ;)
    Lia Rikugun: have we met before?
    Lia Rikugun: susi have we met before?
    Lia Rikugun: hello yaku!
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hey everyone
    Susi Alcott: hi Yaku
    Susi Alcott: I do not remember that we had met Lia
    Lia Rikugun: well nice to meet you then :) but you have been here before?
    Lia Rikugun: hello archmage
    Susi Alcott: nice to meet you too; yes; more than a year
    Calvino Rabeni: Susi has been here many times
    Susi Alcott: hello my bro
    Lia Rikugun: haha ok great!
    Archmage Atlantis: Hello Lia, Cal, Susi, Yak.....and greetings
    Lia Rikugun: hi eliza
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi! :)
    Susi Alcott: hi Eliza
    Eliza Madrigal waits for cushions
    Lia Rikugun: spring is here! and I am eating ice cream! yeay!!
    Lia Rikugun: :D
    Lia Rikugun: how are you all?
    Archmage Atlantis: Smiles
    Susi Alcott: grins _/!\_
    Yakuzza Lethecus: fine, and i am facinated by the colorful pavillion
    Eliza Madrigal: hm. The pavillion is witholding cushions from me today...
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah, there they are
    Archmage Atlantis: I said that a dark shadow had passed from the planet to someone.....then that entity said the equinox just passed.....and I said, Oh of course smile
    Yakuzza Lethecus: does everyone got all these colors on the pavillion ?
    Lia Rikugun: what colors?
    Eliza Madrigal: maybe just your karma, Ya :)
    Eliza Madrigal: hehe
    Lia Rikugun: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Did everyone see the blog article?
    Susi Alcott: no
    Lia Rikugun: yes just reading a bit of it right now
    Eliza Madrigal: http://nwn.blogs.com/nwn/2010/03/play-as-being-in-second-life.html
    Lia Rikugun: http://nwn.blogs.com/nwn/2010/03/pla...cond-life.html
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Lia Rikugun: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: When I read this I think "Wow, this is pretty neat... I want to see what that's about" hehe
    Lia Rikugun: haha, lets see what others think
    Eliza Madrigal: I would expect that if people visit due to the article, it will be over the course of days
    Susi Alcott: Hi Storm
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Storm :)
    Calvino Rabeni: The blog creates an objectivity around what happens here, making it seem somewhat more real
    Lia Rikugun: hello storm
    Storm Nordwind: Hi all :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Welcome :)
    Calvino Rabeni: "PlayAsBeing, a meditation/communal focus group that meets several times a day to shar their practice."
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Wol :)
    Calvino Rabeni: *share
    Lia Rikugun: hi wol
    Wol Euler: hello everyone
    Susi Alcott: Hello Wol
    Lia Rikugun: we were talking about the article on the blog
    Wol Euler: New World News?
    Eliza Madrigal nods
    Lia Rikugun: and waiting for the mass of people who will come every second now ;)
    Wol Euler: I already mailed him to correct the times :)
    Eliza Madrigal: That was fast... must say
    Storm Nordwind: I spoke to Pema on the phone who tracked him down to change the times
    Wol Euler: good :)
    Wol Euler: quite a good story, sympathetic
    Storm Nordwind: However, we've decided to be here at 4pm SLT too, just in case
    Eliza Madrigal: I would guess it will have more of an effect over days rather than 'today' necessarily... and yes I do like the article itself, too
    Eliza Madrigal: Good idea Storm

    "Let's hurry to relax"

    Lia Rikugun: "(Personally I like it. I joked to Piet that whenever I do go to yoga, I end up rushing to gym, fighting through traffic while screaming I HAVE GOT TO GET TO FRICKING YOGA!)" I like this
    Lia Rikugun: have the same feeling some time
    Wol Euler chuckles
    Lia Rikugun: "ahhh, i need to hurry home to relax" :)
    Eliza Madrigal: hehehe, yes
    Archmage Atlantis: Times are one of the most difficult issues to deal with in SL........especially if the other entity is partway around the world

    "real, not-real" music in the head

    Lia Rikugun: i had an interesting thought yesterday and want to hear if you had similar experiences
    Eliza Madrigal listens
    Wol Euler listens
    Lia Rikugun: while going home after my flute lessons
    Archmage Atlantis: pls share
    Susi Alcott: _/!\_
    Lia Rikugun: i was listening to music in my head
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Lia Rikugun: but there was no "real" music
    Lia Rikugun: but i heard it loud and clear!
    Lia Rikugun: :)
    Wol Euler nods.
    Lia Rikugun: and somehow I then felt while playing the flute i was not doing music
    Lia Rikugun: but sometimes become the music
    Wol Euler smiles and nods vigorously
    Lia Rikugun: so i liked this idea
    Eliza Madrigal: the music plays itself and you in it perhaps.... mmm
    Wol Euler: it's a lovely state of being
    Lia Rikugun: its amazing, a whole concert
    Susi Alcott: got such experiences when I sang
    Lia Rikugun: but nothing
    Eliza Madrigal: restful feeling?
    Archmage Atlantis: To become one with the process.......as when a visual artist paints....or a writer of stories writes
    Susi Alcott: and when danced
    Lia Rikugun: yes susi?
    Lia Rikugun: yes archmage i thought it was great
    Storm Nordwind: It's wonderful to be part of that. So different to when one is still playing but when mindfulness drifts.
    Wol Euler nods.
    Eliza Madrigal: seems beyond effort
    Wol Euler: a moment of Wu wei, really: playing music without playing it
    Storm Nordwind: You become part of the story, instead of just reading the story or listening to it being read.
    Lia Rikugun: when i came home I put on music and just daced :) this was great too haha!
    Wol Euler smiles.
    Lia Rikugun: danced
    Eliza Madrigal will be right back... about 5 minutes...
    Lia Rikugun: seey ou later

    a moment of being

    Archmage Atlantis: I do not know how to describe that except as a moment of being
    Lia Rikugun: i am always wondering, what is really a moment of being? :)
    Lia Rikugun: i have no idea
    Lia Rikugun: maybe not thinking too much about oneself
    Lia Rikugun: hm
    Archmage Atlantis: I don't think there are words that describe it.....
    Wol Euler: that is a great part of it, I am sure: being totally immersed in, consumed by, some process outside yourself
    Lia Rikugun: yes always tricky
    Archmage Atlantis: putting down words breaks the oneness
    Susi Alcott: brb
    Storm Nordwind: If we put our ideas of what moments of being are (and aren't) on a pedestal, I suspect we will miss them all!
    Lia Rikugun: bye susi
    Lia Rikugun: see you later
    Wol Euler: :)
    Wol Euler: or stub our toes on them
    Lia Rikugun: wow! susi
    Lia Rikugun: PARTY!
    Wol Euler: that was pretty
    Susi Alcott: _/!\_
    Susi Alcott: just wanted to check that the LM shall be right
    Wol Euler: ty
    Lia Rikugun: thank you
    Wol Euler: what is this, Susi?

    dance places and dancing in SL and RL

    Susi Alcott: there is very special dance castle
    Wol Euler: ah :)
    Susi Alcott: with several dance floors
    Wol Euler: sounds good
    Susi Alcott: when one steps onto the white one
    Susi Alcott: better to have music off
    Susi Alcott: and set it on together when both are on the dance ball
    Susi Alcott: I be there is not such other in whole SL
    Susi Alcott: bet
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hey pema
    Susi Alcott: dont know anybody who was not impressed when danced that one play there is on that dance floor
    Susi Alcott: Hi Pema
    Lia Rikugun: hello pema
    Pema Pera: Hi everybody!
    Wol Euler: helloo pema
    Pema Pera: no new visitors so far?
    Wol Euler grins.
    Lia Rikugun: no :)
    Archmage Atlantis: All things in time
    Susi Alcott: and yes; with purpose I keep it as the 'secret' what play there is
    Lia Rikugun: we are talking about dancing
    Lia Rikugun: and being the dance and the music pema
    Pema Pera: (slowly rezzing still)
    Pema Pera: did you actually dance? :)
    Lia Rikugun: susi did in SL right?
    Susi Alcott: have few times danced myself also
    Lia Rikugun: cool :)
    Lia Rikugun: professional dancing?
    Calvino Rabeni: When people "dance" in SL, do they move around the floor in RL at the same time?
    Susi Alcott: well...in RL
    Susi Alcott: was a teacher of dance for a while
    Susi Alcott: 'runs in family'
    Lia Rikugun: oh great
    Archmage Atlantis: I've pole danced in SL, but that's another story *g*
    Wol Euler laughs.
    Storm Nordwind chuckles
    Susi Alcott: thinks that every person is very beautiful when dance...
    Wol Euler: true!
    Lia Rikugun: :)
    Lia Rikugun: i took classes with my brother and he always stepped on my feet!!
    Lia Rikugun: HAHA
    Wol Euler: heheheheh
    Archmage Atlantis: It is much like the music and the magic flute
    Susi Alcott: grins
    Yakuzza Lethecus: :)
    Lia Rikugun: i guess that looked funny too for others
    Wol Euler: mightjust habe been deliberate?
    Lia Rikugun: haha, maybe i have to ask him
    Yakuzza Lethecus: it´s funny when we do onigokko sometimes but seeing storm and pema doing the choc disco 2 days ago was kinda special :)
    Lia Rikugun: he didnt seem to have a feeling for the rythm, and maybe because he was thinkingtoo much :)
    Pema Pera: Hi Eliza!
    Calvino Rabeni: Storm, is it possible in SL to make the avatar body semi-transparent, and perhaps to drift through space?
    Lia Rikugun: choc disco??!
    Wol Euler: very likely, lia!
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Pema, and Hi Again Everyone :)
    Lia Rikugun: hi eliza
    Yakuzza Lethecus: wb eliza
    Wol Euler: wb eliza
    Eliza Madrigal: Thanks :)
    Susi Alcott: Hi Eliza

    Pema, Yaku and Eliza start dancing!!

    Pema Pera: チョコレイト・ディスコ ♪               (some japanese letters...)
    Eliza Madrigal: now must wait to be graced with cushions again... hehe
    Lia Rikugun: wow pema what do you want to tell us?
    Yakuzza Lethecus: チョコレイト・ディスコ ♪
    Yakuzza Lethecus: Chokoreito Disco ♪
    Archmage Atlantis: I would think all is possible in a virtual world, once it is programmed
    Wol Euler: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: チョコレイト・ディスコ ♪
    Wol Euler laughs
    Lia Rikugun: haha ver nice
    Eliza Madrigal giggles.... maybe don't need cushions
    Wol Euler: well, I guess the only way to follow that
    Wol Euler: is with an
    Pema Pera: :-)
    Susi Alcott: wb Storm
    Wol Euler: onigokko
    Yakuzza Lethecus: good that we don´t have new visitors :)
    Wol Euler laughs.
    Eliza Madrigal: hahaha Ya
    Eliza Madrigal: More than one person has said they were hooked by onigokko
    Eliza Madrigal: ;-)
    Eliza Madrigal: stop
    Archmage Atlantis: Sort of like a line dance with no line
    Lia Rikugun: so much fun!
    Eliza Madrigal: lineless, danceless line dance...
    Storm Nordwind: more like synchronized pandemonium
    Eliza Madrigal: :)))
    Archmage Atlantis: something like chaos theory
    Archmage Atlantis: Although synchronized pandemonium kinda describes all of life
    Wol Euler: :)
    Archmage Atlantis: Blessings and Namaste.....thank you all for the good conversation

    imagined and real experiences

    Lia Rikugun: i am still thinking about this concert in my head, and how an imagined experience can feel soo real, there only seems to be a small difference between a real experineceand an imagined one
    Eliza Madrigal smiles
    Pema Pera: yes indeed!
    Wol Euler: yep
    Eliza Madrigal: yesterday susi led us in a little story/imaginary walk.... caused me to think of your sallying Lia :)
    Lia Rikugun: oh really i am interested
    Lia Rikugun: please tell me

    Susi took a different seat so that 4 people were facing 4 people :) symmetric formation

    Wol Euler cheers! symmetry again. ty susi
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Susi Alcott: sry; couldn't help myeself to seek the balance
    Susi Alcott: cheers :)))))))
    Calvino Rabeni: Calvino Rabeni now imagines moving to a different pillow to see what will happen
    Eliza Madrigal: it was different, but a bit of a demonstration in some ways of how it is possible to venture inwardly together....
    Calvino Rabeni: Yes, a guided medition or journey
    Calvino Rabeni: The group-ness of it adds a dimension
    Lia Rikugun: so were did you go?
    Calvino Rabeni: A walk in the forest
    Eliza Madrigal: just a little walk through a forest and to a fence... then each had their own view
    Lia Rikugun: wow cool
    Wol Euler: great
    Lia Rikugun: i need to read the log when was this?
    Calvino Rabeni: It would be interesting to do it again sometime - where the suggestion at the end is that everyone finds an object and meets around a pond in a clearing in the forest, after a personal journey
    Calvino Rabeni: Then you can compare the results collectively
    Calvino Rabeni: What did you find, what did you bring to the meeting?
    Wol Euler: oh, good idea.
    Eliza Madrigal: yesterday... fef will post it soon I'm sure...
    Eliza Madrigal nods @ Cal
    Lia Rikugun: ah ok cool, i am so curious now ;)

    "dangerous" aspects of such a journey done in SL

    Pema Pera: well, yes, I also like those kinds of explorations, but personally I prefer to keep them for RL sessions
    Susi Alcott: well...we'de take that journey ?
    Pema Pera: where we can see each other, and really be together
    Pema Pera: there are so many unknowns when meeting avatars here . . . .
    Pema Pera: when we followed Lia in Malta it was very clear what happened
    Pema Pera: and we were really together
    Wol Euler nods.
    Pema Pera: while here in SL everything is far more tentative
    Wol Euler: I see your point
    Calvino Rabeni: In the last Cafh class, in the meditation it was suggested to be able to reach through the screen and the little cartoon avatars and penetrate that veil to something realer
    Eliza Madrigal: hm, undersandable...
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hi liza :)
    Storm Nordwind is going to check that Vector Marksman is OK for week 4 of his "Cafh: Daily life as spiritual practice" workshop that starts in the Kira Cafe in four minutes.
    Eliza Madrigal: Hello Liza :)
    Storm Nordwind waves
    Susi Alcott: Hi LIza
    Wol Euler: oooh!
    Pema Pera: I for one would not want to be responsible for what happens in living rooms elsewhere in the world where I've never been with people I've never met . . . . .
    Wol Euler: finally I can attend one!!
    Liza Deischer: hi everyone
    Yakuzza Lethecus: ah yes
    Wol Euler: hello liza
    Lia Rikugun: hi liza
    Pema Pera: enjoy!
    Pema Pera: I can't come; have to introduce Hamlet to my colleagues in 15 minutes
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hamlet ?
    Wol Euler: ah :)
    Eliza Madrigal: That's sure to be an interesting talk
    Susi Alcott: ah well; that journey is prefere to do by oneself and for onself
    Wol Euler: Mr. Au.
    Lia Rikugun: how interesting, he will give a talk about SL?
    Pema Pera: yes!
    Wol Euler: wow, that would be great to hear
    Calvino Rabeni: Recording?
    Pema Pera: no
    Pema Pera: voice, not text :-)
    Pema Pera: (and no video)
    Pema Pera: very informal
    Calvino Rabeni: That would be interesting to see
    Calvino Rabeni: What is the setting - auditorium?
    Calvino Rabeni: Ah, 2pm - I must off, to Kira Cafe. Thanks everyone.
    Yakuzza Lethecus: cya at cafh, or have a nice day everyone
    Wol Euler: me too!
    Wol Euler: take care, be happy
    Lia Rikugun: byebye
    Pema Pera: yes, bye everybody!
    Lia Rikugun: you all take care, I will leave too
    Eliza Madrigal: Bye Lia, Wol, Pema
    Susi Alcott: _/!\_
    Eliza Madrigal: I'm not going to stay... signed on without having planned to...
    Eliza Madrigal: wanting to be help...
    Liza Deischer: I'm going too
    Eliza Madrigal: May come back later :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Bye guys
    Liza Deischer: cy
    Susi Alcott: _/!\_
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