2010.03.29 13:00 - Alts of Being

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    The Guardian for this wack-yet-oddly-profound meeting was Eliza Madrigal, filling in for Mickorod Renard.

    The comments are by Eliza Madrigal, who was joined by Eden, Bleu, Storm, Zen, Calvino, Qt, Pema, Agatha, Lucinda, Velora, Yakuzza (Happy REZZ DAY Yakzza), Mick (for a bit), Liza, Susi... AND for a special treat, various manifestations...   


    Qt Core: hi Pema!
    Pema Pera: hi Qt!
    Bleu Oleander: hi Qt, Agatha
    Qt Core: hi Agatha, Bleu, Eden
    Bleu Oleander: hi Eden
    Agatha Macbeth: Hello Bleu :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Buona sera QT :)
    Pema Pera: Hi Blue, Agatha, Eden!
    Bleu Oleander: Hi Pema
    Bleu Oleander: ouch!
    Eden Haiku: hello everyone!
    Qt Core: wow, quite nice avs this evening
    Agatha Macbeth: Hi edie :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Would be nice if i could see them
    Qt Core: You would make happy Juventus fans, Bleu!
    Agatha Macbeth: ???
    Bleu Oleander: :)
    Eden Haiku: Can see you well yet, you finished with being a cat on a cube Qt?
    Eden Haiku: Oh yes, nice pink jeans!
    Agatha Macbeth: QT Borg :)
    Qt Core: yes
    Agatha Macbeth: I miss the green bits
    Eden Haiku: Agatha you lokk so beautiful!
    Eden Haiku: *look
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah, TY Edie :))
    Qt Core: the borg cube is retired for some needed repairs to the antigrav devices
    Agatha Macbeth: I can see your wings now
    Eden Haiku: Oh oh, serious stuff Qt...
    Agatha Macbeth: And very little else....
    Agatha Macbeth: At last
    Agatha Macbeth: Whoa Bleu
    Agatha Macbeth: Dunno what it is, but I like it
    Pema Pera: (rezzing seems to be slow these days . . .)
    Eden Haiku: Me too :)
    Bleu Oleander: ty Aggie :)
    Agatha Macbeth: I noticed that too Pem
    Qt Core: yes Pema, especially the cushions for me
    Agatha Macbeth: it never used to be this bad
    Pema Pera: I know!
    Pema Pera: takes ages for cushions to appear these days
    Eden Haiku: For me it was ok. Are you guys with the new viewer? Am not.
    Pema Pera: i'm still with the old one
    Agatha Macbeth: I use emerald, so don't know
    Bleu Oleander: I still use the old one too
    Eden Haiku: yes, I will wait until everybody says it is perfect;)
    Pema Pera: me too :)
    Pema Pera: let others pioneer :-)

    Mick was having connection issues, and sent an email to the group.

    For the record, I do like many things about the new viewer... in particular that one may copy and paste without havng to go to 'edit' at the top!

    Qt Core: me too, wanted to use the beta but it say i have to update it, no time at the moment
    Eden Haiku: In that field at least hum Pema?
    Qt Core: Hi Susi
    Pema Pera: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: No sign of Mick yet then
    Bleu Oleander: hi Susi
    Susi Alcott: _/!\_ all
    Eden Haiku: hello Susi!
    Pema Pera: hi Susi
    Agatha Macbeth: Hi Susi
    Pema Pera: Hi Vellora
    Vellora Vella: hi
    Qt Core: hi Vellora
    Bleu Oleander: Hi Vellora
    Agatha Macbeth: Hello again Vellora
    Eden Haiku: Hello Vellora.
    Pema Pera: Hi Mat!
    Vellora Vella: uuup
    Susi Alcott: Hi Matt
    Vellora Vella: ups
    MatthPallTeix Edwardstone: hi
    MatthPallTeix Edwardstone: sorry I a new user!!
    Eden Haiku: Cushions are a bit slow in rezzing today Vellora,,,
    Agatha Macbeth: Hi MPTE
    Pema Pera: welcome, Matt!
    Eden Haiku: Welcome Matth.
    Vellora Vella: ah... i see.. yes
    MatthPallTeix Edwardstone: hi
    Pema Pera: Matt, we get together a few times a day to chat about the nature of reality, and everything else, and we have a wiki http://playasbeing.wik.is/ -- We record our conversations there. Do you mind being included in our blogs?
    Agatha Macbeth: *Very* sloooooow......
    Susi Alcott: Hi Zen
    Vellora Vella: indeed
    MatthPallTeix Edwardstone: slow plese
    Agatha Macbeth: Hi Zen :)
    MatthPallTeix Edwardstone: I spanish
    Zen Arado: Hi all
    MatthPallTeix Edwardstone: i´dont speak english!! jajaja
    Eden Haiku: I like your very ralistic 'everything else' Pema ;)
    Pema Pera: I will IM you, Matt
    Agatha Macbeth: Hola!
    MatthPallTeix Edwardstone: hola
    MatthPallTeix Edwardstone: jajaja
    Agatha Macbeth: :)
    Qt Core: open the local chat window, there our words won't disappear
    Eden Haiku: *realistic
    Bleu Oleander: hi Zen
    Vellora Vella: hi Zen
    Bleu Oleander: Hi Eliza
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Vellora, Eden, Zen, Bleu :)
    Susi Alcott: Hi Lucinda
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Lucinda, Agatha, Susi :)
    Eden Haiku: Good afternoon Eliza, good evening Zen :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Hi Liz :))
    Vellora Vella: hi Eliza
    Pema Pera: hi Eliza!
    Eliza Madrigal noticed a lovely cake for Yakuzza at the square! How wonderful of you Bleu :))
    Zen Arado: Hi EDen, Eliza
    Susi Alcott: Hi Eliza
    Agatha Macbeth: Wow
    Bleu Oleander: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Pema, Qt , MatthPall:)
    Zen Arado: cushions are rezzing very slowly for me lately
    Agatha Macbeth: Sadly, he doesn't seem to be online yet
    Bleu Oleander: haven't seen him today
    Bleu Oleander: hey Storm
    Susi Alcott: Hi Storm
    Agatha Macbeth: Stormy!
    Eden Haiku: Yakkuuuuuu!!!
    Storm Nordwind waves
    Zen Arado: Hi Storm
    Eden Haiku: waving back at Storm!
    Eliza Madrigal: people are still appearing....
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Storm :)
    Eden Haiku: was trying to call Yakuzza through cyberspace...
    Agatha Macbeth: Cushions too I bet
    Pema Pera: hi Storm!
    Storm Nordwind: Hi everyone :)
    Eden Haiku: I think you have dreamed up Lucinda though Eliza, I do not see her...
    Agatha Macbeth: You're on Eliza Zen ;-)
    Lucinda Lavender: I am here...
    Agatha Macbeth: Hello Lucinda
    Eliza Madrigal: you're lighter than you look, zen ;-)
    Lucinda Lavender: hello
    Agatha Macbeth: Good job
    Eden Haiku: Ah yes! Sorry, I was not seeing you. Now I see you...


    Agatha Macbeth: Can I sit on your lap next Liz? :))
    Eliza Madrigal: come on over ag :)
    Eliza Madrigal: heheh
    Eden Haiku: Eliza is PaB"s Amma!
    Eliza Madrigal: :)))))
    Agatha Macbeth: Anima?
    Eliza Madrigal: is pretty huggy....
    Pema Pera: :)
    Agatha Macbeth nods
    Eden Haiku: She is an Indian guru who gives hugs Agatha.;)
    Agatha Macbeth: Zen looks rather odd now...
    Eden Haiku: Not Eliza, I mean Amma :)
    Zen Arado: always did :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Sitting in mid air
    Zen Arado: new trick
    Bleu Oleander: very nice
    Agatha Macbeth: Are you a fakir Zen? :)
    Bleu Oleander: what else can you do?
    Agatha Macbeth: The Zen cushion trick
    Zen Arado: disappear under the sea
    Agatha Macbeth: Like Captain Nemo
    Bleu Oleander: been there!

    Zen shares a new adventure ...

    Zen Arado: I set up an Alt
    Zen Arado: is that a good thing to do?
    Agatha Macbeth: Depends
    Pema Pera: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: On what you want to do with him/her
    Zen Arado: lots of advantages
    Zen Arado: can dump a lot of my inventory on it
    Agatha Macbeth: Yeah, that helps
    Bleu Oleander: never thought of that!
    Zen Arado: could experience being a woman
    Agatha Macbeth: Except there's a lotta stuff you can't transfer it seems
    Qt Core: ohhh, never thought abiut that, first good reason i hear
    Qt Core: (that is good for my sl ecperience)
    Agatha Macbeth: ;-)
    Pema Pera: another good reason is that you can be a member of an extra 25 groups for each extra alt
    Zen Arado: yes true
    Pema Pera: and have the IMs of those groups come to your email inbo
    Bleu Oleander: wow, never thought of that either
    Agatha Macbeth: Why is the limit 25 anyway?
    Bleu Oleander: all kind of tips today

    Missed Eden's great question at first (haha), struck anew by the name of Pema's alt...

    Eden Haiku: Do you get an extra 24 hours a day too?

    Agatha Macbeth: Why not 50?
    Pema Pera: most of my Buddhist groups are assigned to my alt "No Self"
    Zen Arado: unfortunately not
    Agatha Macbeth grins @ Pema
    Bleu Oleander: nice name
    Pema Pera: (I was very fortunate!)
    Zen Arado: didn't realize you could rez both at the same time until the other night
    Pema Pera: (or my no-self alt was)
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Zen Arado: I can talk to myself now
    Susi Alcott: smiles
    Eliza Madrigal: and go dancing
    Agatha Macbeth: Don't you anyway?
    Qt Core: is there a way to rez both ? something different from two sl instance running i mean ?
    Zen Arado: he he
    Bleu Oleander: don't need us now
    Eden Haiku: But you need to use two computers don't you Zen?
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Zen Arado: yes it's easy
    Lucinda Lavender: :)
    Zen Arado: no
    Zen Arado: better with 2 screens though
    Bleu Oleander: who is your alt Zen?
    Eden Haiku: Ah no? Then you need two Second Life software on your computer?
    Zen Arado: he e secret

                 Storm Nordwind: Perhaps everyone here except you and me is also really me ;)

    Zen Arado: yes you start 2 viewers
    Agatha Macbeth: (Just listen for the accent)
    Eliza Madrigal: I use my alt as a secret shopper.... finds things and then IMs me...
    Eliza Madrigal: hahaha Storm
    Qt Core: so more than two screen you need two more ram chips ;-)
    Zen Arado: ah ha other alys around
    Eden Haiku: Who is the second 'me' Storm?
    Bleu Oleander will get alt after session
    Zen Arado: alts even
    Eden Haiku: I have my twin sister alt. She has not come for a while. Let me invite her (she lives in my laptop),
    Zen Arado: interesting to try life as a woman
    Zen Arado: or a man
    Qt Core: mmm, i may make the trek officer and the borg cube argue...
    Eliza Madrigal: yes I thought so
    Agatha Macbeth: You'll make lotsa new friends Zen :)

    Rezz Day Arrival...

    Yakuzza Lethecus: hey everyone
    Eliza Madrigal: Yakuzzaaaaaaaaaaaa
    Susi Alcott: ah
    Qt Core: Yaku!
    Susi Alcott: Hello Yaku
    Agatha Macbeth: Hiya birthday boy! :)
    Eden Haiku: Happy rezzday Yakuzza!!!
    Bleu Oleander: hey Yaku .... happy rezzday!
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hehe, yes rezzday thx :)
    Susi Alcott: Happy bd _/!\_
    Qt Core: happy rezzday
    Yakuzza Lethecus: bd is in a week :)

    Followed by No Self, wearing a "Pathless land" tag ...

    Bleu Oleander: hey No
    Lucinda Lavender: And full moon birthday as well.
    Agatha Macbeth: Mr Self!
    No Self: Hi Bleu, and All!
    Eliza Madrigal: A pathless no self...
    Qt Core: Hi No
    Bleu Oleander: oh No
    Zen Arado: Hi No elf:)
    Storm Nordwind counts them up. He has 8 alts
    No Self: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: No Elf?
    Zen Arado: knew you would pounce on that Aga :)
    Eden Haiku: Hi NO SElf nice to meet you.
    Agatha Macbeth: He he
    Qt Core: Oh, he has skin and clothes, i weas thinking the being gray was part of the being No
    No Self: :-)
    Eden Haiku: Ads extravagant as his alt Pema :)
    Eden Haiku: *As
    MatthPallTeix Edwardstone: adios!
    No Self: I'm a very modest No . . . .
    Eden Haiku: Did I see No Self merge within you Pema?
    Bleu Oleander: full house if everyone brings their alts
    Zen Arado: adios Matt
    Agatha Macbeth: Via con dios MPTE

    Eliza Madrigal: when one has a no self sighting.... is that a kensho...?
    No Self: Pema stumbled upon me, I guess, Eden
    Qt Core: Bye Matt
    MatthPallTeix Edwardstone: adios gracias!!
    MatthPallTeix Edwardstone: jajaja
    Susi Alcott: _/!\_ Matt
    MatthPallTeix Edwardstone: nnos e como irme jajajaja
    Pema Pera: bye Matt
    Eliza Madrigal: Adios Matth, buen dia
    Zen Arado: buenas noches
    Susi Alcott: brb

    No Self: no self no haiku / no path and yet a few words /just to please Eden

    Calvino Rabeni: wow, big group
    Eliza Madrigal giggles
    Zen Arado: seems to be a crowd in the south of here
    Vellora Vella: excuse me - got to check something...
    Zen Arado: may be making it laggy
    Qt Core: hi cal
    Eden Haiku: is delighted by No Self's talent!
    Zen Arado: Hi Cal
    Agatha Macbeth: That's probably Hanja Zen
    Vellora Vella: cu
    Eden Haiku: Hello calvino!
    Agatha Macbeth: Hi Cal
    Zen Arado: Hana?
    Eliza Madrigal: bye Vellora, Hello Cal
    No Self: m(._.)m
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Hennry
    Agatha Macbeth: Hanja Welcome Area
    Liza Deischer: hi all
    Hennry Shackleton: hELLO
    Agatha Macbeth: Hello Liza :)
    Qt Core: hi Hennry, Gibele
    Liza Deischer: (i'm not sitting on someone ?)
    Hennry Shackleton: Whats up here

    And the alts keep coming... 

    Eliza Madrigal: Gybele, Liza, Rrose.... hello
    Agatha Macbeth: Jeez it's like Piccadily Circus tonight
    Gybele Silvera: _/!\_ all
    Eliza Madrigal: Hennry, I'll IM you... one sec :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Bonsoir Rose
    Rrose Millar: Hi everyone!
    Pema Pera: Hi Rrose! Good to see you again!
    Hennry Shackleton: I dont know about ist. Im new here in SL
    Yakuzza Lethecus: everyone is bringing in his alts tonight ?
    Zen Arado: Hi Rrose
    Rrose Millar: Bonjour Agatha (still afernoon here;)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: since rrose is eden
    Rrose Millar: Hi, tryin to sit down..
    Agatha Macbeth: Bon après-midi!
    Qt Core: nont bringon some ctrl ;-)
    Qt Core: none bringing
    Rrose Millar: Yes, we are identical twins Yakuzza!
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hi mick :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Hennry... do You see me IMing you? Should be a lighted tab....
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Mick, glad you made it
    Qt Core: hi Mick
    Agatha Macbeth: Evenin' Mick :)
    Mickorod Renard: hiya,,sorry i am late,,couldnt conect
    Zen Arado: Hi Mick
    Agatha Macbeth: Probably all the Avs in here...
    Pema Pera: Hi Mick!
    Mickorod Renard: wow
    Stargate Tone: _/!\_ all
    Qt Core: on my right Mick
    Liza Deischer: Mick, how much do you weight? :-)
    Mickorod Renard: full house
    Qt Core: left, ops
    Zen Arado: Hi Star
    Eliza Madrigal is loving this.... friends in their various aspects....
    Agatha Macbeth: This will not affect the pound in your pocket Storm :)
    Eden Haiku: I think Rrose has to find the wireless mouse if she wants to sit...
    Mickorod Renard: I am very L:ight Liza
    Mickorod Renard: Hiya everyone
    Bleu Oleander: hey Mick
    Liza Deischer: ok then :-)
    Agatha Macbeth: Hello Stargate
    Mickorod Renard: :)
    No Self: hi Mick!
    Agatha Macbeth feels like she has double vision
    Storm Nordwind: Hooray!
    Hennry Shackleton: Thans guys See you later
    Rrose Millar: :)))
    Eliza Madrigal: Bye Hennry, join us again
    Qt Core: bye Hennry, have fun
    Liza Deischer: bye henry
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh, bye Henry
    Mickorod Renard: bye henry
    Zen Arado: bye Henrry
    Rrose Millar: I found the wireless mouse!
    Agatha Macbeth: With the wireless cat?
    Eliza Madrigal: hahaha
    Zen Arado: :)
    No Self: :)
    Pema Pera: :-)
    Eden Haiku: The wireless cat is sleeping on the couch..:)
    Mickorod Renard: has someone claimed the log?
    Eliza Madrigal: look what you've done, zen... quite a scene
    Agatha Macbeth: Its the way I tell 'em
    No Self: I'd say
    Eliza Madrigal: I did Mick, but you can have it back :)
    Pema Pera: and I too
    Zen Arado: who me?
    Mickorod Renard: thanks Eliza
    Eliza Madrigal: no worries at all :)
    Eden Haiku: Yes, you are the one who started all this alt movement Zen!

    Oh, missed Qt's title, and gave it to Wol in upcoming lines...

    Qt Core: should this session be titled Avatars' echoes ?
    Mickorod Renard: I will post it if u like
    Eden Haiku: Which one of us is your feamle alt though?
    Zen Arado: oh I didn't realize they were alts :)
    Mickorod Renard: thanks QT,,rthat saves me some thinking
    Agatha Macbeth: Both?
    Eden Haiku: Great title Qt! Snapshot_007.jpg
    Storm Nordwind: Don't forget a snapshot!
    Zen Arado: is it good to try a different sex Alt?
    Storm Nordwind chuckles
    Zen Arado: find problems with the clothes
    Agatha Macbeth: Variety is the spice of life Zen ;-)
    Storm Nordwind: Don't worry. Guys will hit on you anyway ;)
    Eden Haiku: Let me transfer you some cute outfit for her Zen.
    Zen Arado: they have already
    Agatha Macbeth: Wol will take you shopping Zen
    Zen Arado: what do you say?
    Zen Arado: I don't like to be rude
    Pema Pera: You, rude, Zen?
    No Self: Never!
    Zen Arado: ty Eden
    Zen Arado: maybe I will become a real bitch !
    Storm Nordwind: Telling them you only like women will still cause its own problems Zen
    Zen Arado: true
    Eden Haiku: :))
    Agatha Macbeth: But you'll never be bored...
    Zen Arado: I think I could dress myself well
    Zen Arado: couldn't get the bra to come off though
    Agatha Macbeth: Hers or yours?
    Zen Arado: ?
    Zen Arado: getting confused now
    Agatha Macbeth: You sure are!
    No Self: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: (And lovin' it)
    Zen Arado: gives you insights though
    Eden Haiku: I suspect Donations Windstorm is some alt of our stormy friend here...
    Donations Windstorm: Perhaps ;)
    Eden Haiku: I recognize the pink hammer...
    No Self: I guess he is just a beggar
    Bleu Oleander: bye everyone and alts :)
    No Self: bye Bleu!
    Mickorod Renard: bye bleu
    Qt Core: bye Bleu
    Yakuzza Lethecus: bye bleu, bye everyone
    Eden Haiku: Goodbye Bleu!
    Bleu Oleander: nice meeting all alts
    No Self: an original Buddhist Monk, that is
    Eliza Madrigal: Bye Bleu :)
    Gybele Silvera: _/!\_ Bleu

    Male/Female play and Who is threatened ... 

    Zen Arado: wondes how much of our masculine/feminine traits are learned
    Eden Haiku: Leaving Yakku?
    Agatha Macbeth: You seem very pink Eden
    Stargate Tone: _/!\_
    Zen Arado: how we are supposed to behave
    Eden Haiku: I'm wearing a pink aura Susi gave me...
    Zen Arado: bye Bleu
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah
    Zen Arado: threatens sense of self maybe
    Agatha Macbeth: What does?
    Zen Arado: a gender identity
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh
    Storm Nordwind: Or liberates it perhaps
    Zen Arado: sorry if this is offending anyone
    No Self: No doesn't feel threatened at all
    Gybele Silvera: _/!\_
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Eden Haiku: :)
    Mickorod Renard: Zen,,you offend in such a lovely way,,its a pleasure
    Eliza Madrigal: smiles
    Mickorod Renard: :)
    Zen Arado: smiles too
    Zen Arado: must be my feminine side :)
    Eliza Madrigal: people experiment with alts sometimes as a way of loosening identities...
    Eliza Madrigal: so in that way can be quite a tool
    Agatha Macbeth: Sure to be, Zen ;p
    Zen Arado: yes ..that's what I was thinking Eliza
    Qt Core: are some alts... "droppings"
    No Self: what identity?
    No Self looking around
    Storm Nordwind: People move transgender too, and trans-species
    Liza Deischer: yes eliza ad it works too, I can tell :-)

    Zen Arado: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: nods... and I guess one could see what they think of as 'female' is really just something on its own... or not at all, etc
    Eliza Madrigal: hahahah, Oh No...
    Liza Deischer: I only have one problem with switching genders in sl
    Eliza Madrigal: nods to Storm re species....
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Mickorod Renard: I have only ever been accused of transgressing
    Liza Deischer: my male alt seem to run into lesbians far more easier then I do :-)
    Agatha Macbeth: Aww
    No Self: :-)
    Zen Arado: gosh everyone had an alt only me
    Agatha Macbeth: Perhaps he just goes to the best places Liza ;-)
    Storm Nordwind: Maybe have the two hang around together :)
    Qt Core: me too, i still don't
    Zen Arado: I'm so innocent
    Liza Deischer: maybe, but still wondering what I'm doing wrong
    Mickorod Renard: sounds balls Storm
    Agatha Macbeth: You innocent? Hah
    Liza Deischer: as Liza I mean :-)
    Storm Nordwind remembers when Linden Lab used to charge US$10 to birth an alt
    Liza Deischer: birth an alt, nice way of putting it
    Qt Core: going for a stupid question: to make an alt (if ever) is just making another just like the first one, right ?
    Zen Arado: found it a bit frightening
    Stargate Tone: ***<3<3<3***
    Liza Deischer: yes QT
    Zen Arado: got booted off my own property
    Liza Deischer: hahah
    Zen Arado: there is a far better selection pf alts now
    Qt Core: do you (all) have a group for your alts to manage land right (to avoid Zen faux pas) ?
    Storm Nordwind: It helps, Qt
    Zen Arado: I gave my alt access but it still gets shoved to outer edge
    Liza Deischer: maybe you do't like him/her
    Liza Deischer: without being aware
    Qt Core: and it even give you a group to use woonderful and ad hoc tags... another good reason to have an alt

    Eden notices Lucinda 'away' for a long time...

    Eden Haiku: Lucinda wake up!
    Zen Arado: growing very fond of him /her Liza
    Eliza Madrigal smiles at Eden
    Eden Haiku: I don't want her to be ejected...:)
    Storm Nordwind: Or dejected
    Wol Euler: oh, I came just in time.
    Liza Deischer: hmmm, in that case, then it is to bad :-)
    Rrose Millar: Hi Wol!
    Zen Arado: Hi Wol :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Wol!!
    Qt Core: hi Wol
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Wol Euler: hello everyone, sorry I'm late.
    Liza Deischer: hi Wol
    Eden Haiku: Hello Wol!
    Eliza Madrigal: quite a session today...
    Mickorod Renard: I had a female Alt once just for fun,,it seemed far less vain dressing that one up than my real sl avi
    Agatha Macbeth: Room for one more on top Wol
    Mickorod Renard: Hi Wol
    Wol Euler: :)
    Pema Pera: Hi Wol!
    Zen Arado: men's clothes are more boring
    No Self: Hi Wol
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh yes
    Zen Arado: and less selection
    Wol Euler: true in both worlds, zen.
    Zen Arado: yes
    Zen Arado: I get a clothing catalogue from Land's end and it is about 90% women's clothes
    Agatha Macbeth: That's Cornwall for ya
    Storm Nordwind: Finisterre
    Agatha Macbeth: That too
    Zen Arado: that's men for ya
    Zen Arado: don't buy enough clothes
    Agatha Macbeth nods
    Agatha Macbeth: You can still buy 10 pc of the catalogue
    Wol Euler: gotta keep the economy moving.
    Zen Arado: thanks
    Zen Arado: :)
    Qt Core: i can't do what i like with clothes here.... buy several identical ones so i don't have to choose ;-)
    Agatha Macbeth still loves the pink pants
    Zen Arado: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Oh, Mick.... sigh
    Wol Euler: heheheh
    Agatha Macbeth rubs her ear
    Mickorod Renard: :)
    Zen Arado: going back a bit Mick?
    Agatha Macbeth: Caps Lock Renard strikes again
    Mickorod Renard: SORRY for shouting
    Qt Core: very discreet ;-)
    Eliza Madrigal: hehehe Agatha :)
    Agatha Macbeth: OK THAT'S FINE
    Mickorod Renard: yes,,long time since I had friends
    Eliza Madrigal: yes, it was the caps that was the problem mick
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Mickorod Renard: ok,,sussed it tyhanks
    Agatha Macbeth: To cap it all...
    Storm Nordwind groans
    Mickorod Renard: need smaller fingers too
    Agatha Macbeth: Meep Meep ;P :p:P :p :P
    Agatha Macbeth: Or bigger keys
    Mickorod Renard: nose is blocked
    Agatha Macbeth: Whose?
    Mickorod Renard: joking
    Eden Haiku: Welcome back Lucinda...
    Lucinda Lavender: hi
    Eliza Madrigal: :)

    Me, and my shadow....

    No Self: goodbye all you good selves, avs, alts, . . . . .
    Pema Pera: . . . time for us to go . . .
    Zen Arado: Hi Lucinda
    Agatha Macbeth: Sorry we bored you Licinda ;-)
    No Self: . . . was fun!
    Wol Euler: bye No, bye Pema, take care
    Lucinda Lavender: hi zen
    Pema Pera: . . .it was!
    Eliza Madrigal: Wonderful to meet you, No Self :)
    Qt Core: bye No
    Zen Arado: bye Pema
    Agatha Macbeth: For both of you
    Eden Haiku: Bye No Self, bye Pema!
    Mickorod Renard: bye both of you
    Agatha Macbeth: By Pem & No
    Zen Arado: and No
    Eliza Madrigal: I hope you'll visit again :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Dr No?
    No Self: Dr Who?
    Qt Core: Dr No himself!
    Agatha Macbeth: No Dr No
    Rrose Millar: Bye No, bye Pema!
    Agatha Macbeth: No?
    Liza Deischer: bye eh pema's
    Eliza Madrigal: they tried to make me go to rehab I said....
    Agatha Macbeth: No No Nanette
    Eden Haiku: Now that the cat is gone..

    "Don't worry, there is nothing real about your confusion."(Lojong)

    Lucinda Lavender: you have not bored me but being new I don't always understand.
    Zen Arado: I don't either
    Wol Euler smiles.
    Agatha Macbeth: Neither do I most times
    Wol Euler: that makes you one of us.
    Mickorod Renard: nor me
    Agatha Macbeth: 'That is a beginning Grasshopper'
    Eliza Madrigal: This has been a bit different of a session... too...
    Mickorod Renard: I need to leave and get some kip,,thanks for looking after this session,,and sorry for being late
    Eden Haiku: /onigokko
    Qt Core: i think i will have the idea of gettin g an alt and what type plaguing me for the next days
    Donations Windstorm: Dona doesn't mind if they don't understand as long as they all pay their dues
    Wol Euler: 'night mick, sleep well
    Qt Core: bye mick
    Agatha Macbeth: try...
    Agatha Macbeth: onigokko
    Zen Arado: night Mick
    Mickorod Renard: thankyou..nite nite
    Wol Euler laughs.
    Eliza Madrigal: Night Mick :)
    Liza Deischer: nite mick
    Agatha Macbeth: stop
    Agatha Macbeth puffs
    Qt Core: Hi Jan
    Liza Deischer: hi Jan
    Eliza Madrigal wonders if alts get confused
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Jan :)
    Wol Euler: hello Jan, welcome to second life.
    Wol Euler: one day old
    Zen Arado: Hi Jan :)
    Storm Nordwind waves
    Qt Core: alt don't, primary yes
    Eden Haiku: Hello Jan.
    Wol Euler: it can be tricky remembering who knows whom :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Well hi there Jan
    Wol Euler: especially if people tell one of you a secret :)
    Liza Deischer: :-)
    Liza Deischer: depends if they get in each others way
    Jan Qualia: well what do you think of my alt?
    Agatha Macbeth: Dunno, have we met her?
    Wol Euler: looks very good, I was just admiring hte quality :)
    Eliza Madrigal: I like your alt... but don't know you
    Eden Haiku: Ah ah it IS you Zen!
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah!
    Jan Qualia: yep
    Eliza Madrigal: :) Eden is a puzzle solver
    Storm Nordwind: Very cute :)
    Liza Deischer: :-)
    Jan Qualia: hitting on me Storm?
    Jan Qualia: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: :)))
    Qt Core: do you have a primary and alts or they are on the same level ?
    Storm Nordwind: Only if you want to :))
    Eliza Madrigal: someone has to
    Liza Deischer: depends
    Jan Qualia: don't know what to say
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Udge :)
    Jan Qualia: have to learn putdowns
    Eden Haiku: Hi Udge!
    Udge Watanabe: hello everyone
    Agatha Macbeth: Well hello there Fudge! :)
    Udge Watanabe: hope I didn't step on anybody
    Donations Windstorm: Greeting Udge!
    Liza Deischer: hie udge
    Qt Core: hello Udge
    Agatha Macbeth: Not yet

    Adding to the madness...

    Agatha Macbeth: Isn't there a 'No Smoking' sign?
    Zen Arado: makes 'who am I 'koan tricky
    Eden Haiku: You are smoking a pipe Storm?
    Udge Watanabe puffs out a long stream of smoke and says "no"
    Eliza Madrigal: Hm, no... just "On Air"
    Agatha Macbeth: As he said at the Brighton conference
    Donations Windstorm: He is Eden. I told him not to.
    Agatha Macbeth coughs
    Wol Euler grins
    Udge Watanabe: heheh
    Eden Haiku: You are watching his ealth, good dog of an alt Donations!
    Wol Euler: what a pity I don't have three more SL capable computers ...
    Eden Haiku: *health
    Donations Windstorm: What I pity I don't have 7 more Wol
    Zen Arado: alt overpopulation issues
    Wol Euler: :)
    Rrose Millar: It remonds me I should have Rrose say something otherwise she will be ejected from SL"..
    Zen Arado: Malthus predicted it
    Udge Watanabe nods
    Agatha Macbeth: If truth be known there are probably only about 100 people in SL
    Eden Haiku: World population explosion!
    Wol Euler grins
    Agatha Macbeth: The rest are all Alts
    Eliza Madrigal: one in many
    Eden Haiku: A way to boost PaB traffic!
    Wol Euler: typing one-handed
    Agatha Macbeth: Works too Edie
    Jan Qualia: Hmmm Udge looks nice :)
    Qt Core: wonder if mi archenemy in sl isn't an alt of my best friend...
    Udge Watanabe: oh, thank you ;)
    Udge Watanabe: you've made an old man very happy.
    Agatha Macbeth: Or of you QT?
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Eden Haiku: Don"t you hate it when you arrive some crowdy place only to discover it is onbly avatars camping there! All zombies...
    Qt Core: of that i'm sure, i don't have alts...... omg, maybe i'm one!
    Wol Euler: hehehehehe
    Eliza Madrigal: hehehehe
    Agatha Macbeth: Send for Jill Valentine
    Wol Euler: well, we are all Being's alts really.
    Eden Haiku: Maybe you are an alt Qt!
    Agatha Macbeth: R U 1 2
    Eliza Madrigal: Oohhh... ding, log title goes to Wol
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Wol Euler: :)))
    Zen Arado: I am in another triangel now
    Eden Haiku: Triangle Zen?
    Agatha Macbeth prefers Triangel
    Zen Arado: or is it a quadrenge?
    Eden Haiku: What would you say of our collective dream Lucinda?
    Storm Nordwind: three angels?
    Zen Arado: quadrangle
    Zen Arado: was at Stonhenge the other night BTW
    Storm Nordwind: In RL?
    Zen Arado: in Sl
    Wol Euler: woo
    Storm Nordwind: Ah... yes nice demo
    Agatha Macbeth: Have they finished it yet?
    Eden Haiku: RL Stonehenge?
    Udge Watanabe: :)
    Zen Arado: not sure
    Liza Deischer: :-)]
    Storm Nordwind chuckles
    Zen Arado: was it ever finished?
    Eliza Madrigal: K :)
    Lucinda Lavender: excuse me, I need to attend to some other things for the moment...
    Agatha Macbeth: (Probably irish builders)
    Eliza Madrigal: Bye Lucinda, nice to see you again
    Wol Euler: bye Lucinda, take care.
    Zen Arado: watch it Aga
    Storm Nordwind waves
    Eden Haiku: Bye Lucinda...
    Agatha Macbeth: Cya Lucy
    Agatha Macbeth: ;-)
    Zen Arado: Englishmen obviously
    Qt Core: bye Lucinda
    Liza Deischer: bye lucinda
    Agatha Macbeth grins @ Zen
    Zen Arado: painted themselves with wiad too
    Eliza Madrigal: I have to run, also... but what a fun session! Thank you everyone, and everyone's everyone
    Zen Arado: woad
    Lucinda Lavender: bye,:))
    Agatha Macbeth: Woad signs
    Wol Euler: bye eliza
    Zen Arado: bye Eliza
    Qt Core: bye Eliza
    Agatha Macbeth: Night Liz :)
    Liza Deischer: bye eliza:

    Sounds lovely, Eden...

    Eden Haiku: Saw Stonehenge from an airplane once. At sunrise. Felt like a precious gift...
    Eliza Madrigal: Bye :)
    Eden Haiku: Bye Eliza.
    Jan Qualia: I better go too
    Jan Qualia: find you all a bit weird
    Wol Euler: :-PPPPPPPPPP
    Eden Haiku: hum hum...
    Agatha Macbeth: Or weird even
    Jan Qualia: except Storm and Udge :)
    Udge Watanabe grins
    Eden Haiku: Why them not weird?
    Udge Watanabe: because we are smokers, I bet.
    Jan Qualia: they are nice men :)
    Jan Qualia: mature
    Agatha Macbeth: Aww
    Storm Nordwind: Thank you kindly :)
    Eden Haiku: You are a misogynistic woman then Jan! Ah!
    Agatha Macbeth: Bye Jan
    Eden Haiku: Ans what about Zen, you like him the best I suppose...
    Liza Deischer: bye Jan
    Eden Haiku: No way to argue with a gone alt avatar...
    Zen Arado: I can pass on message
    Agatha Macbeth: A GAA?
    Eden Haiku: Would you kindly...:)
    Liza Deischer: cu (whoever you are)
    Wol Euler: bye liza, sorry I missed you this afternoon :(
    Eden Haiku: Cu Liza!
    Zen Arado: paying with identities could be a good thing I think
    Qt Core: bye Liza ;-)
    Agatha Macbeth: BFN Liza, look after yourself
    Zen Arado: bye Liza
    Eden Haiku: We will have to leave also for some sisterly chat Rrose and I. Good evening everyone!
    Wol Euler: bye eden, bye rrose, take care.
    Rrose Millar: waves
    Agatha Macbeth: Salut Edie
    Agatha Macbeth: And Roie
    Udge Watanabe: bye all, nice to meet you
    Qt Core: bye Eden, Rrose, don't argue too much
    Agatha Macbeth: Rosie
    Zen Arado: bye Rosie
    Agatha Macbeth: She's beside herself tonight
    Zen Arado: Bye Eden
    Wol Euler: oh! the penny drops!
    Wol Euler: rose = pink = Eden's AoB object.
    Wol Euler: duh.
    Eden Haiku: We won't Qt. Rosie will be pleased she go a nickname from Agathitha!
    Wol Euler: that took me far too long.
    Agatha Macbeth grins
    Eden Haiku: Yes, Wol, I created my alt twin sister cause I was estranged from my RL sister...:)
    Agatha Macbeth: Awww
    Wol Euler: I remember you saying htat now.
    Wol Euler: and how terribly sad I thought it was.
    Zen Arado: have to go
    Zen Arado: bye all
    Udge Watanabe: bye zen, take care.
    Qt Core: bye Zen
    Wol Euler: bye zen
    Agatha Macbeth: Bye Jan....er Zen
    Wol Euler: have a guinness on us
    Donations Windstorm: I must slip away now fellas. I have some serious treasure counting to do
    Agatha Macbeth: Cya DW
    Wol Euler: bye dona, nice meeting you
    Qt Core: bye donations
    Wol Euler: she needs some moneybags to carry around :)
    Wol Euler: or a briefcase handcuffed to her wrist
    Storm Nordwind: True.
    Agatha Macbeth: She can borrow some of yours :)
    Wol Euler: I know where you can get the latter :)
    Storm Nordwind: What cuffs Agatha?
    Qt Core: it seem that in last days PaB is trying to make me reevaluate a couple points about my sl presence, money (i don't use it) and alt (i don't plan on having one)
    Agatha Macbeth: Eh?
    Agatha Macbeth: But you do still have your pink pants QT
    Wol Euler: do tell, qt.
    Agatha Macbeth: And yer Borg cube
    Udge Watanabe: I'm curious.
    Agatha Macbeth: Hello Curious
    Udge Watanabe: :-P
    Qt Core: i come here in sl with the idea of not spending an euro on it
    Qt Core: but i sometime tip with the small money i got here and there mostly trivia ;-)
    Wol Euler: gambling!
    Agatha Macbeth: I walk into clothes shops not intending to buy anything, but still do
    Agatha Macbeth sighs
    Qt Core: but then comparing my tips to standard ones...
    Udge Watanabe: I was in SL for over six months before I spent any money on my appearance
    Qt Core: i'm not ashamed og giving the lowest one, but then i'm not really supporting the people i tip
    Wol Euler nods.
    Qt Core: for clothes and such i haven't yet seen something i HAVE to own
    Wol Euler: oh how sad :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Indeed
    Wol Euler: We must take him shopping, Aggers,
    Qt Core: and i don't know what to do with land as i don't want (yett) to build
    Agatha Macbeth: Yes!
    Agatha Macbeth: At Avid?
    Wol Euler: well, land is really optional. But your appearnce is your identity, here even more than in RL
    Agatha Macbeth tries to picture a Goth QT
    Qt Core: i just need mt trek commbadge ;-)
    Agatha Macbeth: Fire all phasers!
    Qt Core: or maybe a hat with maggig wrote on it ;-)
    Agatha Macbeth: Maggig?
    Qt Core: sorry mixed italian and english, wizzard wrote on it ;-)
    Agatha Macbeth: Roy Wood?
    Wol Euler smiles at the double "Z"
    Storm Nordwind: yay!
    Agatha Macbeth: See my Baby jive
    Qt Core: for the alt in this session a couple good reasod come up: inventory sorting and group survival for nice tags
    Agatha Macbeth: Wish someone would sort my inventory :(
    Agatha Macbeth: It's a right bloody mess
    Qt Core: that is beside the usual as experimenting wityhnidentities, work alt and everyday aone
    Wol Euler nods.
    Qt Core: and mpd, obviously
    Agatha Macbeth: Obviously
    Wol Euler snorts
    Agatha Macbeth: :)
    Qt Core: it is quite hard sometimes making the morporkian and the trekker convive... with burst of Hogwarts in the way too
    Wol Euler: well, if you had an alt, you could separate them out.
    Agatha Macbeth: Just get the Klingons on 'em QT
    Wol Euler: let them express themselves fully, without "you" holding htem down
    Udge Watanabe nods.
    Qt Core: but they are not my appearance, they are part of my personality, eith the programmer and the comic guy on top of them
    Wol Euler: sure; I was replying to your statement that they "get in the way" :)
    Wol Euler: perhaps that's the wrong way around...
    Calvino Rabeni: I am in little hurry about this - I am planning to wait until my Alts are able to have a decent conversation with me
    Qt Core: i should go around with several alts everytime to let the "righ" one say the next line
    Udge Watanabe: that depends entirely on your typing speed
    Wol Euler: so true.
    Udge Watanabe grins.
    Calvino Rabeni: When the Alts pass the Turing Test, all on thier own, then we'll be in business
    Udge Watanabe: c'mon, admit it: don't you talk to yourself in RL anyway? :)
    Qt Core: my typing skil are slowly degrading since i had to stop doing yoga (they got at their high diring my youga era)
    Agatha Macbeth: I do
    Wol Euler nods.
    Wol Euler: in three languages!
    Agatha Macbeth: I shout at myself too
    Agatha Macbeth: I think that's something evryone who spends much time alone does
    Storm Nordwind: Arguing with yourself is fine ... until you lose the argument and go off in a sulk
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh I do!
    Wol Euler laughs.
    Udge Watanabe: heheheh
    Qt Core: i usually only insult myself rarely just speak
    Calvino Rabeni: Nothing like a good sulk though - you should try it some time
    Agatha Macbeth: Don't tempt me
    Qt Core: but i speak to pcs ;-).... or :-(
    Qt Core: ?
    Udge Watanabe: Wol has started telling hte rest of me to take breaks, to drop stuff, to remember that it's all an illusion. That kind of thing.
    Udge Watanabe: It's definitely her voice, not "mine" :)
    Agatha Macbeth: But do you take notice?
    Udge Watanabe: we try to.
    Udge Watanabe: she's usually right.
    Wol Euler smiles modestly.
    Agatha Macbeth: I know :)
    Calvino Rabeni: My alts tell me to take things more seriously. What the !@#$%!@# would they know about *that* anyway?
    Wol Euler: heheheheh
    Calvino Rabeni: I say - easy for you to say
    Agatha Macbeth: You tell 'em Cal
    Calvino Rabeni: I heard somethings is brewing over at Art of Being, so I'm heading that way
    Calvino Rabeni: by all
    Storm Nordwind is going to the Piazza d'Arte to see what's going on - please excuse
    Agatha Macbeth: Beer?
    Wol Euler: sounds like fun, shall we all go see?
    Agatha Macbeth: Y not?
    Storm Nordwind waves
    Qt Core: ok
    Udge Watanabe: I'm off home actually, it was nice to meet you all.
    Agatha Macbeth: Byee
    Qt Core: sleep well Udge
    Agatha Macbeth: C ya Fudge ;-)

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