Page last modified 22:28, 9 Apr 2010 by Lia Rikugun

*The Guardian for this meeting was Lia Rikugun. The comments are by Lia Rikugun.*

Darren Islar: hi Lia

Lia Rikugun: hello :)

Lia Rikugun: hello darrenb hello zon

Zon Quar: sometimes it takes a minute

Zon Quar: hi Lia

Zon Quar: and not in right order

Darren Islar: yea and then your time is up

Darren Islar: and you get logged off

Lia Rikugun: hello alfred

Alfred Kelberry: oi :)

Zon Quar: alfred

Darren Islar: hi Alf

Alfred Kelberry notes lia's cute pinky tail :)

Lia Rikugun: hehe

Lia Rikugun: for the case an onigok ko might come up :)

Lia Rikugun: always prepared

Zon Quar: i dont even see all

Lia Rikugun: oink oink!

Alfred Kelberry: quack quack :)

Lia Rikugun: :P

Alfred Kelberry: seen wol around?

Lia Rikugun: how are you all today?

Lia Rikugun: no sorry alf

Alfred Kelberry: i'm alright. was late for science circle though.

Lia Rikugun: is this in SL too?

Alfred Kelberry: em, when is the pab meeting in cali?

Lia Rikugun: what is science circle?

Alfred Kelberry: nymf's science circle

Alfred Kelberry: it's in sl

Lia Rikugun: oh ok

Lia Rikugun: 18th to 24th of april is the retreat

Alfred Kelberry: ok, thanks

Lia Rikugun: http://playasbeing.wik.is/PaB_Retreats/2010-04_California

Alfred Kelberry: are you coming?

Lia Rikugun: here is the link

Darren Islar: hey where is Zon?

Lia Rikugun: i would love to :)

Alfred Kelberry: he's gone

Lia Rikugun: how about you guys

Darren Islar: crashed

Darren Islar: how about what?

Lia Rikugun: are you going to san francisco fpor the retreat?

Darren Islar: no

Lia Rikugun: oh

Lia Rikugun: well we always have SL ;)

Darren Islar: :-)

Lia Rikugun: welcome back zon!

Darren Islar: wb

Zon Quar: hope i am back

Lia Rikugun: alfred will you be there?

Darren Islar: yes you are

Darren Islar: a bit grey though

Zon Quar: crossing fingers

Alfred Kelberry: heh, i like wol's comment on the site :)

Alfred Kelberry: nope

Lia Rikugun: :)

Lia Rikugun: oh so sad

Alfred Kelberry: silly air travel

Lia Rikugun: you are afraid of air travel?

Lia Rikugun: or too far away?

Alfred Kelberry: no, it's about wol's comment :)

Alfred Kelberry: one days saves you 1580 euros :)

Lia Rikugun: thats crazy, :) so always worth checking all the dates

Alfred Kelberry: yep

Darren Islar: hey Fox

Darren Islar: don't you need to be at Kira?

Zon Quar: fox

Fox Monacular: Hello everyone, sorry I'll have to leave for the dream workshop

Fox Monacular: yes, exactly

Fox Monacular: this was the last place I logged out:)

Darren Islar: have fun

Darren Islar: ah

Fox Monacular: have a good session everyone

Alfred Kelberry: it's not like 30 euros from amsterdam to copenhagen :)

Alfred Kelberry: oi, foxy

Darren Islar: forgot bout the dreamworkshop

Lia Rikugun: is it at the same time now?

Alfred Kelberry: oh, dream workshop! i think i'll go there

Darren Islar: I'm going to have a lok

Darren Islar: yes, I'm afraid so

Alfred Kelberry: you coming lia? :)

Lia Rikugun: ok maybe see you later

Lia Rikugun: hm i am guardian here :)

Darren Islar: can somebody give me an lm for Kira?

Lia Rikugun: so maybe i should stay a bit

Alfred Kelberry: ah, ok then. sorry :)

Alfred Kelberry: one sec, darren

Lia Rikugun: done :)

Lia Rikugun: kira cafe

Lia Rikugun: i hopÃ¼e it is there

Darren Islar: thanks lia

Alfred Kelberry: :)

Lia Rikugun: ok have fun

Alfred Kelberry: thanks, you too

Lia Rikugun: so zon it is the two of us now :)

Zon Quar: oh sry. i was distarcted

Zon Quar: my text

Zon Quar: is coming

Zon Quar: slowly

Lia Rikugun: hey wol

Wol Euler: hello lia, zon

--BELL--

Zon Quar: does anyone

Zon Quar: hi

Zon Quar: or is it only me

Zon Quar: have same problem

Lia Rikugun: i dont have such problems today

Lia Rikugun: for me it is normal

Wol Euler: what was your problem, zon?

Lia Rikugun: he can only write very slowly

Zon Quar: my typing

Lia Rikugun: and he had to relog as well

Wol Euler: huh

Zon Quar: comes in wrong order

Zon Quar: and slowly

Wol Euler: no, never heard of that happening

Lia Rikugun: i had this already but few months ago

Wol Euler: um, go to the Help menu and select "lag meter"

Lia Rikugun: never knew what the reason was :)

Lia Rikugun: wow my client is red

Zon Quar: did u down load new vierwe ?

Wol Euler: zon?

Lia Rikugun: client frame rate below 10!!

Lia Rikugun: no i have the old one

Wol Euler: I'm using Emerald, so not a v2

Lia Rikugun: oh and now network yellow

Lia Rikugun: interesting the lag meter!!

Wol Euler: :)

Lia Rikugun: thank swol

Wol Euler: yw

Lia Rikugun: hey and we can see your red shirt now zon!

Lia Rikugun: or i can at least

Wol Euler: yes, just rezzed for me too

Zon Quar: perhaps the new viewer slows things down

Wol Euler: it didn'T for me, at least not in and of itself.

Zon Quar: so then it must be my pc

Wol Euler: sounds more like your home network is slow, or your PC is busy

Wol Euler: right click on the blue bar along the bottom of the screen, choose "task manager"

Wol Euler: go to the fourth tab, probably called somthing like "performance"

Zon Quar: uhhuh

Wol Euler: how's the cpu load?

Zon Quar: hm it shows 97 %

Wol Euler: well, no wonder :)

Zon Quar: ?

Zon Quar: ?

Wol Euler: your machine is as busy as hell.

Zon Quar: okie

Wol Euler: how's the memory usage (the rectangle with green bars below CPU load)

Zon Quar: straight blue line ?

Wol Euler: left of that

Wol Euler: stack of green lines

Zon Quar: 1,48 gt

Wol Euler: and is that about half green, or mostly green, or low?

Zon Quar: half

Wol Euler: well, the cpu load is the problem then. Your computer is too busy doing other stuff to give SL as much attention as it needs

Zon Quar: ok, i shut things down then

Lia Rikugun: ups he left?

Wol Euler: I guess he's going to clean up and reboot

Lia Rikugun: so how have you been wol?

Wol Euler: pretty well, thanks. Things are much quieter in the office now

Wol Euler: only 10.5 hours today :)))

Lia Rikugun: puh!!

Lia Rikugun: so much

Lia Rikugun: thats good

Lia Rikugun: my text is mixed up too

Lia Rikugun: came in the wrong order

Lia Rikugun: you will be going to san francisco right?

Wol Euler: yes indeed!

Wol Euler: really looking forward to it

Lia Rikugun: wow thats great!!

Lia Rikugun: say hi to everybody :)

Wol Euler smiles. Will do.

--BELL--

Wol Euler: I got a wonderful present for Easter: "Oh, wie s

Wol Euler: oh wie schoen ist panama :)

Lia Rikugun: the book?

Wol Euler: mmhmm

Wol Euler: it's wonderful

Lia Rikugun: tigerente? no wait what was this again?

Wol Euler: the bear and the tiger set out to find Panama, the land where everything smells like bananas

Lia Rikugun: oh yes

Wol Euler smiles

Lia Rikugun: i rememberd the duck on wheels :)

Wol Euler: mmhmm

Lia Rikugun: haha

Lia Rikugun: how nice

Lia Rikugun: so you celebrated easter and got presents! wonderful!

Lia Rikugun: did you have to search your presents first :)

Wol Euler: heheheh, yes, they were hidden in the garden

Lia Rikugun: hehehe

Wol Euler: I was in the Black Forest with my boss and his family, at his parents' house

Wol Euler: his son is keen on finding things, but hasn't yet really grasped that some presents are not for him :)

Wol Euler: he opens everyrhing he finds

Lia Rikugun: haha, most of the fun is to open the presents i guess

Wol Euler: oh, yes, opening seems to be much more fun than having the contents, judging by his actions

Lia Rikugun: the curiosity

Wol Euler: mmhmm

Wol Euler: the potential

Lia Rikugun: how nice that you could celebret with your boss

Wol Euler: like Schroedinger's cat :)

Wol Euler: one hopes it's alive, but either state is less exciting than not knowing which it is

Lia Rikugun: hehe

Lia Rikugun: yes

Wol Euler: have you always had that single earring, Lia?

Lia Rikugun: hm i only have one earring?

Wol Euler: mmhmm

Lia Rikugun: i thought i had two ;)

Wol Euler: for me at least

Lia Rikugun: HAHA letr me check!

Wol Euler: perhaps that's lag, because your blouse is still grey

Lia Rikugun: ups where did it go?

Wol Euler smiles.

Lia Rikugun: hm confusing confusing

Lia Rikugun: i must have lost it, but where?

Wol Euler: it should still be in your inventory somewhere

Lia Rikugun: :) lets see

Lia Rikugun: HA

Lia Rikugun: i found it

Wol Euler cheers!

Lia Rikugun: cheers

Wol Euler: :)

Wol Euler: skol!

Lia Rikugun: i had a weizenbeer before :) we had great weather here today, so waht else should i have done :)

Lia Rikugun: hick!

Wol Euler: mmhmm

--BELL--

Lia Rikugun: wow cool stuff i have here

Wol Euler: :)

Lia Rikugun: i had an interesting experience yesterday

Wol Euler: mmm?

Lia Rikugun: where i went to my happy place and everything was so confusing

Wol Euler: huh

Wol Euler: why? what was different there?

Lia Rikugun: as if no ordinary rules were being applied

Lia Rikugun: but different realities at the same time

Lia Rikugun: depending on my perspective or my choice

Lia Rikugun: hello ara

Wol Euler: hello ara

arabella Ella: Hiya Lia, Wol!

Lia Rikugun: how have you been ara?

arabella Ella: i am fine thanks I was in Spain last week for a vacation, enjoyed it lots!

Wol Euler: very nice

arabella Ella: How are you Lia?

Lia Rikugun: how nice!

arabella Ella: and Wol?

Lia Rikugun: oh good thank you, tired :)

arabella Ella: owwwww

Lia Rikugun: we made a video today at work

arabella Ella: a RL or SL video?

Lia Rikugun: was pretty interesting with a professional film team

arabella Ella: cool

Wol Euler: wow

Lia Rikugun: i am laggy sorry..)

arabella Ella: did you play a major role in the video?

arabella Ella: and was it a promotional one?

arabella Ella: i am very laggy tonite too ... last night Ara crashed three times!

Lia Rikugun: i just screamed "CUUUUT" and "Take number 256"

Lia Rikugun: :P

arabella Ella: :)

Wol Euler: :)

arabella Ella: i have been involved in the past in organising some videos and the shooting is good fun ... the editing later can be tedious

Lia Rikugun: it was a video about a project i helped working on with a colleague of mine

arabella Ella: how lovely

arabella Ella: well done!

Wol Euler nods.

Lia Rikugun: it was great to see the camera team work and see what they are interested in

arabella Ella: did it give you a slightly different perspective on the topic Lia?

arabella Ella: seeing it from their point of view i mean?

Lia Rikugun: we have been talking to them for several months now for the story board, so this already happenend somehow, but that was also good, to understand how things have to be presented so that they are understandable

Wol Euler nods

arabella Ella: yes

Lia Rikugun: understandable to everybody with no background in the project

arabella Ella: yes and yet brief too ... i mean a short message in simple words

Lia Rikugun: makes the communication skills better :)

arabella Ella: oh yes

Lia Rikugun: yes breif is better

--BELL--

Lia Rikugun: the video will be 4 to 5 minutes

Lia Rikugun: and it took us a whole day ;)

arabella Ella: that's normal ... and it takes hours to edit too!

Lia Rikugun: yes and all the previous work ;)

Lia Rikugun: a lot i learned so i am happy :)

arabella Ella: Now if i may ask a question on another topic ...

Wol Euler: :)

arabella Ella: how do you two deal with problems of procrastination?

arabella Ella: (which seems to be a very common human trait)

Lia Rikugun: haha

Wol Euler: :)

arabella Ella: #any magic tips?

Wol Euler: I usually let it happen. I'm fortunate that my work is largely self-directed

Wol Euler: so I view the urge to procrastinate as a sign that I am not ready to do X

Lia Rikugun: i am making a todo list

Wol Euler: so I just let it mature.

arabella Ella: mmmmmmmm

Lia Rikugun: and am soo happy when i can put things away

Wol Euler: one day, sooner or later, I'll feel an urge to do it, and on that day it is suddenly very easy and obviuos what to do.

arabella Ella is thinking ....

Lia Rikugun: i am soory, will have to leave, was somehow tiring for me today and its bedtime :)

Wol Euler: goodnight lia, sweet dreams

Lia Rikugun: have a good night sleep

arabella Ella: yes of course Lia, well done though I am so pleased to hear it all went well, good nite!

arabella Ella: So Wol, if you dont mind ... self directed work and procrastination ...

Wol Euler: mmhmm

arabella Ella: how do you then manage to bring in some self discipline?

Wol Euler: well, it's not as simple as that brief description

arabella Ella: yes ... although I can relate to what you said

arabella Ella: but then deadlines or responsibilities or whatever enter the picture too

arabella Ella: and TIME

Wol Euler: I balance the "waiting for inspiration to hit" moments with some hard work when it does

Wol Euler: and there are always tasks to be done "beside" the thing that I am procrastinating about

arabella Ella: yes i can relate with that too ... mmmm

Wol Euler: for example, I have a mental list of about twenty things that need to be done sometime fairly soon on the current project

Wol Euler: and I know roughly which have to happen first

arabella Ella: then there is also the paradox about Time ... relaxation ... waste of time ... using time properly ... etc

Wol Euler: so I make a deal with myself. I'm only allowed to procrastinate on one thing at a time.

arabella Ella: he he

arabella Ella: I like that attitude

Wol Euler: if I am procrastinating on X then I *must* do either Y or Z

Wol Euler: and I choose the one that has the least resistance

arabella Ella: fantastic idea

arabella Ella: yes

arabella Ella: like doing the easiest stuff on a to do list first i guess

Wol Euler: this resistance is a kind of intuition, I think. It means that I am missing something to deal properly with the problem

arabella Ella: yes i guess it is

Wol Euler: be it time, or a fact, or an answer from some other part of the project that I might not even consciuosly know is related

arabella Ella: like when we dont reply to emails immediately ... it is often the case that we dont have a simply answer

Wol Euler nods.

Wol Euler: I talk about letting myself procrastinate, but I am actually very disciplined when I do work.

Wol Euler: it balances.,

arabella Ella: yes ... what i find difficult sometimes when i start on a new project is the time it takes me to focus on the new topic

arabella Ella: to 'get into it'

Wol Euler nods.

arabella Ella: once i get going it is fine and as you said ... then one can be very disciplined

Wol Euler: so tell yourself that the lead-in time is valuable and significant.

Wol Euler: when you have to make someting in the kitchen, do you just jump straight in and throw things at the stove?

arabella Ella: yes ... and i could also take your advice ... procrastinate on one thing and get something else done

arabella Ella: he he

Wol Euler: or do you rather clean up the counters and check that you ahve all ingredients and tools ready?

Wol Euler: hello pema, eliza

arabella Ella: would be nice if i could just wave a magic wand in the kitchen and

arabella Ella: and find everything done in a jiffy

Wol Euler: oh darren, sorry, I thought you were a friend :)

Darren Islar: hi everyone

Wol Euler: same trousers :)

arabella Ella: Hiya Darren, Eliza

Wol Euler: aaaaaah :)))))

Darren Islar: I hope I am

Wol Euler grins

Darren Islar: :-)

arabella Ella: ehrm ... seems like another paradox here ... he he

Darren Islar: am I interrupting something?

Wol Euler: no, just an Appearance by Being :)

Wol Euler: (to ara)

arabella Ella: he he

Wol Euler: we were talking about procrastination and intuition, darren

arabella Ella: no Darren you are not interrupting anything

Darren Islar: procrastination, need my dictionary

Wol Euler: putting off doing something

arabella Ella: means putting off something you have to do even if it needs to be done

Wol Euler: hesitating, delaying

arabella Ella: especially if the deadline is not too close

--BELL--

Darren Islar: right

Wol Euler: not the same as being lazy, there is a difference

Darren Islar: ah, ok

arabella Ella: yes ... although laziness may be related sometimes to procrastination

Darren Islar: it is more like being costious

Darren Islar: coustious

arabella Ella: or like saying 'yes i will do it ... later ... over and over

arabella Ella: you mean 'cautious'

Wol Euler: a procrastinator is thinking about work, s/he just isn't doing any. A lazy person is thinking about holidays or feeding the cat

arabella Ella: he he

Darren Islar: yes cautious, had no idea how to write it :-)

arabella Ella: it was easy to understand the way you wrote it

Darren Islar: a thanks for the explanation

Wol Euler: yw

Darren Islar: I hoped so ara, because I knew it wasn't right :-)

arabella Ella smiles

Wol Euler: hello mick

Darren Islar: hi Mick

arabella Ella: I sometimes wonder why procrastination brings on guilt feelings ... could it be due to the sense of 'wasting time' I wonder?

arabella Ella: Hiya Mick

arabella Ella: and is procrastination a natural human tendency?

Mickorod Renard: is it really wasting time?

Darren Islar: well, i still sounds like some kind of laziness

Mickorod Renard: maybe its doing what your body and mind want to do

Darren Islar: you want to do the right thing but getting nowhere

arabella Ella: yes ... he he

arabella Ella: and the connection to laziness ... i could procrastinate by saying to myself ... i am tired i need sleep or a siesta or whatever

Darren Islar: hmmm, rethinking it, maybe we shouldn't be feel so guilty about it, maybe better to become aware what is holding you back

Wol Euler: mmhmm

arabella Ella: Wol gave some good indication of what could hold us back

Darren Islar: easier said then done though

arabella Ella: like insufficient information or not yet being ready for doing something

Mickorod Renard: it would be unfair to be self critical over it if you are fatigued

arabella Ella: well ... much easier said than done

Darren Islar: yes not being ready sounds very familiar

Darren Islar: but most of the time I start of feeling guilty and then later on find out I wasn't ready

Darren Islar: frustrating

Darren Islar: :-)

arabella Ella: :)

Wol Euler nos

Wol Euler: *nods

arabella Ella: i guess procrastination could also come about due to our not being motivated enough to do certain tasks, ranging from simple tasks such as doing the dishes, to report writing or strategy or whatever

arabella Ella: not lack of motivation but not sufficient motivation

Wol Euler: mmhmm

Darren Islar: yes I suppose you're right Mick, but sometimes I can fatigue mistaken by laziness and the other way around

arabella Ella nods to Darren

Darren Islar: I think motivation it vital here

arabella Ella: it could be an easy cop out to say we are tired when we dont feel like doing something ... which must be done

Darren Islar: right

Mickorod Renard: procrastination is often more work than the job needing doing

Darren Islar: can you say more Mick?

Wol Euler: very true, mick :)

Mickorod Renard: I was thinking for example,,like if you need to hand in an assignment

arabella Ella: depends on what the job involves Mick ... could be a resolve to keep fit ... and one may procrastinate

Mickorod Renard: the stress and worry over leaving it and leaving it is hard

arabella Ella: deadlines help to avoid procrastination

Darren Islar thinks this is the best dictionary I ever looked into :-)

Darren Islar: *he

Darren Islar: and takes up more energy then just doing it

Mickorod Renard: I have things I love to do,,but sometimes casnnot get motivated for some trivial reason

Darren Islar: I'm afraid I'm very familiar to that :-)

arabella Ella: could it be push and pull factors ... like what do i stand to gain from this ... or does that sound too ... I dunno ... too egoistic?

Mickorod Renard: like I love riding my motorcycles,,but cos its cold I cannot drive myself to put on all the clothing

Darren Islar: I guess to me it is more like having the right energy

Darren Islar: but sometimes it turns out you can better do it because it is giving you the right energy

--BELL--

Darren Islar: and I think egoism is part of us :-)

arabella Ella nods

Mickorod Renard: brb

Darren Islar: my teacher once said, everything we do we do out of egoism, so lets skip that and talk about doing the right thing

arabella Ella: he he

arabella Ella: i like that

arabella Ella: skip the crap ...

arabella Ella: just move on and DO IT

Darren Islar: you can use negative emotions to do the right thing

Darren Islar: it is not the best way, but it is better then doing the wrong thing wiht the wrong motivation

Darren Islar: just get started

arabella Ella: yes

arabella Ella: but i guess the question arises ... how can we motivate ourselves more to avoid procrastinating?

Darren Islar: and now getting myself out of bed every morning :-)

arabella Ella: oh yes ... i hate mornings

Darren Islar: :-)

Darren Islar: well I'm afraid my teacher has an answer to that too

arabella Ella listens

Mickorod Renard: bac

Wol Euler: mmm?

Darren Islar: get you're lazy but moving

arabella Ella: wb Mick

arabella Ella: ??

Darren Islar: he used different words though

arabella Ella: could you say that again Darren as i did not understand?

Mickorod Renard: had to have a pee,,coulnt procrastinate over it any longer

Mickorod Renard: :)

Darren Islar: I think procrastination to buddhists is the same as laziness

Darren Islar: like having to do a lot of other things before doing the right thing

arabella Ella: yes

Darren Islar: I mean, we are always busy

Darren Islar: with social contacts, partyin, but also serious reading can be laziness

arabella Ella: yes there is always something to be done

arabella Ella: did you say serious reading can be laziness?

Darren Islar: everything can be

Darren Islar: yes :-)

Darren Islar: my lines show up in different order

arabella Ella: some of my lines done show up at all :(

Darren Islar: hmm, so it isn't me

Darren Islar: what a chatlag

arabella Ella: let's simply blame the system

Darren Islar: yes, let's do that :-)

Wol Euler: :)

arabella Ella: but what you said about buddhism, procrastination and laziness is interesting

Darren Islar: I read that ll has a lot of problems with the overwhelming number of accounts

Mickorod Renard: it is interesting that some people choose to do the wrong thing,,knowingly,,because its easier than doing the right thing

Wol Euler nods.

Darren Islar: don't understand that because that is lower then it used to be

arabella Ella: yes around a year ago there used to be 80K people on line at any one time then it suddenly went down

Darren Islar: or the viewer also takes up a lot of memory on the server

arabella Ella: i dont know much about technicalities

Darren Islar: maybe Wol knows :-)

arabella Ella: possibly

Wol Euler: :)

Wol Euler: it's more likely that the new viewer, being new, is not yet optimized

Wol Euler: whereas the old viewer, being older, had had most of its bugs beaten out of it

Darren Islar: yes, but I'm now on emerald

Darren Islar: .

Wol Euler: well, then, I'd guess it is plain old lag :)

arabella Ella: how do the old viewer and the new viewer synch together in the system Wol since they work in tandem?

Darren Islar: that is a good very technical explanation :-)

Wol Euler: well, they don't really "synch" ara. The server is (at least in theory) viewer-agnostic, it will supply data to any system that asks for it

arabella Ella: ah ok

Wol Euler: but the new viewer requires more and different resources, above and beyond what the old one was receiving

Wol Euler: the whole prim media story, for example

arabella Ella: i like that description 'viewer agnostic' ... sweet way of putting it

Darren Islar: true, my new viewer is slower

Darren Islar: but never had these problems with the emerald

--BELL--

Darren Islar: :-) ara

Wol Euler: well, it need not be the fault of your viewer

Wol Euler: might be the computer itself, or your router, or any one of the dozen or more computers that handled this kilobyte of data on its way from California to you

arabella Ella: could it be the bandwidth in the country where you are located?

Darren Islar: ah, now I know :-)

Mickorod Renard: I am heading home now,,thanks for the chat

Darren Islar: bye Mick

arabella Ella: nite Mick

Wol Euler: goodnight mick, take care

Darren Islar: .

Mickorod Renard: nite nite,,and you

arabella Ella: i must go too ... good nite!

Darren Islar: nite ara

Wol Euler: goodnight ara, take care

Darren Islar: you use a mac too Wol?

Wol Euler: for most things, yes, but for SL since about four months I'm on Windows 7

Darren Islar: ah okay

Wol Euler: had to buy a new winbox for work, so I made sure it had a super graphics card :)

Darren Islar: :-)

Darren Islar: did you experience any problems with the voice using headphones when you were still on the mac?

Wol Euler: none that I don'

Wol Euler: none that I don't still experience on Windows.

Darren Islar: because sometimes I can't get a connection with voice with my headphones, hearing all the sounds, but not the voice

Darren Islar: is that similar to your experience?

Wol Euler: the SL client sometimes doesn't connect to teh voice server, that happens.

Wol Euler: switching it off and on again in the preferences usually solves that

Darren Islar: ah ok

Darren Islar: I can try to use that, you need to find the right trick with these kind of things

Wol Euler nods

Wol Euler: asking is a good start :)

Darren Islar: :-)

Wol Euler: somebody told me taht trick

Darren Islar: well a friend of mine don't have any problems at all

Darren Islar: so we have been searching for the answer

Darren Islar: yes, that is a very good trick :-)

Darren Islar: we thought we found it, and now I have the same problem again

Wol Euler: heh

Darren Islar: and now I have his problems with this chatlag and lines turning up in the wrong order

Darren Islar: we call that a wimpie-problem

Wol Euler: that is a network problem, packets are gtting lost or delayed

Wol Euler: there's very little you can do about that other htan restarting your modem

Darren Islar: sounds reasonable

Darren Islar: ah, yes off course

Darren Islar: I mean plausible

Wol Euler: mmhmm

Darren Islar: it doesn't help wimpie though :-)

Wol Euler: :)

Darren Islar: so how was your first working day?

--BELL--

Wol Euler: not bad at all. I'd rather not have been working, to be honest, but it was OK

Darren Islar: maybe you needed some more time off

Wol Euler: Ido.

Darren Islar: well the retreat is coming up

Wol Euler: mmhmm

Wol Euler: I'm really looking forward to that.

Darren Islar: I can imagine :-)

Darren Islar: San Fancisco

Wol Euler smiles

Darren Islar: not written propparly

Wol Euler: poor SF, it has a terribly high reputation to live up to

Wol Euler: it's bound to be disappointing :)

Darren Islar: :-)

Darren Islar: but actually you don't know

Wol Euler: of course :)

Darren Islar: and you're doing a retreat, with friends, so.....

Wol Euler: oh yes, I meant the city is bound to disappoint compared to its reputation :)

Wol Euler: the retreat will be great, I am sure of that

Darren Islar: I understood

Darren Islar: but I meant it is only a small part of what you are going to do

Wol Euler nods

Wol Euler: I have a list of galleries and museums and suchlike

Wol Euler: and I must visit an Apple store and get my hands on an iPad :)

Darren Islar: hahah

Darren Islar: they are not available yet in europe

Wol Euler: end of april in Germany

Darren Islar: oh

Darren Islar: i started wondering what Darren was typing, because I wasn;t

Darren Islar: feels like he is starting to act on its own :-)

Wol Euler: :)

Darren Islar: would be exciting, just see what he comes up with

Darren Islar: I need to go, I'm the GoC tomorrow morning, and that is pretty early to me :-)

Darren Islar: Darren, stop typing

Wol Euler grins and nods

Wol Euler: goodnight darren, take care. It was nice meeting you

Darren Islar: ah, yes, need to ask, do you like him?

Darren Islar: he will be around for a while

Wol Euler smiles. He looks good :)

Darren Islar: great

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