2011.06.23 13:00 - scooter - weeeeh

The Guardian for this meeting was Lia Rikugun. The comments are by Lia Rikugun.

FcSeeker Resident: Hello Lia
Lia Rikugun: Hi FcSeeker :)
Lia Rikugun: how are you doing?
FcSeeker Resident: still listening
FcSeeker Resident: how are you ?
Lia Rikugun: listening to what?
Lia Rikugun: hi Qt
FcSeeker Resident: Hello Qt
Qt Core: Hi all!
Lia Rikugun: hi dash
Dash Earthboy: hey y'all
FcSeeker Resident: Hello Dash
Lia Rikugun: FcSeeker sorry if I ask, but have you been here before, or should I introduce you to PaB?
Dash Earthboy: 's up?
FcSeeker Resident: many things around here Lia
FcSeeker Resident: yes I have
Lia Rikugun: sorry, I am bad with names :)
Dash Earthboy: Fc's a vet at PaB
Dash Earthboy: :)
FcSeeker Resident: :)

dogs as guardians in a dream?

Lia Rikugun: may I tell you something which fascinated me
Dash Earthboy: yes pls
FcSeeker Resident: please
Qt Core: sure
Lia Rikugun: a friend of mine had a surjery recently
Lia Rikugun: and she told me today
Lia Rikugun: that during the anestisia she was playing with a lot of dogs
Lia Rikugun: when she woke up after 5 hours
Lia Rikugun: shestill had this good feeling with her
FcSeeker Resident: so nice experience
Lia Rikugun: this fascinated me
FcSeeker Resident: thank you for sharing
Dash Earthboy: i'm a firm believer in pet therapy :)
FcSeeker Resident: never thought that as the therapy
Lia Rikugun: somehow I think the unconscious wants to distract her
FcSeeker Resident: but now that you said so
Lia Rikugun: *wanted
FcSeeker Resident: I agree completely
Lia Rikugun: but then what is the unconscious
FcSeeker Resident: may I say how I saw her experience ?
Lia Rikugun: yes please
FcSeeker Resident: that she's got many genuine friends who was helping her during the surjery
Lia Rikugun: hm
Dash Earthboy: so if i'm your friend you say "You're my dog"?
FcSeeker Resident: and they appeared in the form of the dog that she wouldn't get quilty feelings that she'd bothered her friends
Lia Rikugun: friends in reality?
FcSeeker Resident: when one is under anestesia, it's kind of the dream phrase
Lia Rikugun: like I am her friend?
FcSeeker Resident: and loyalty appears in the form of the dog
Lia Rikugun: or dream friends?
Dash Earthboy: lots of assumptions there huh?
Dash Earthboy: but dream interpretation isn't a science now is it?
FcSeeker Resident: so it dont tell anybody to be the dog to her but true friend
Lia Rikugun: I think the idea is interesting
FcSeeker Resident: I think that it is an opinion if it is science or not...
Dash Earthboy: especially since we know so little of your friend Lia :)
Lia Rikugun: thats true maybe we shouldnt start to interpret
Lia Rikugun: just a nice experience
Lia Rikugun: but I definitly need to think about what you said FcSeeker
--BELL--
FcSeeker Resident: Hello Wol
Lia Rikugun: hello wol
Dash Earthboy: hey wol!
Wol Euler: hello lia, dash, fc, qt
Qt Core: Hi Wol

the healing feeling friends can give you

Lia Rikugun: it is crazy how a day with your friends can change your feelings
Dash Earthboy: :)
Wol Euler: how so?
Dash Earthboy: how do you feel now Lia?
Lia Rikugun: i somehow feel much more in the middle of myself
Wol Euler smiles.
Wol Euler: good.
Lia Rikugun: after having been with them
Lia Rikugun: much more connected to me
Lia Rikugun: it sounds weird
Lia Rikugun: but no better explanation :)
FcSeeker Resident: maybe her love for you and your love for her strengthened you also
FcSeeker Resident: to feel more what you need to feel
Lia Rikugun: yes i think its fascinating
Wol Euler nods.
Wol Euler: sounds in any case as thought it was very good for you
Wol Euler: for whatever reason
Lia Rikugun: yes definitely :)
Lia Rikugun: sorry what would you like to talk about?
Dash Earthboy: Fc may have something for us to discuss?
FcSeeker Resident: have no idea

words having different meanigs for different cultures

Dash Earthboy: about finding words to say what one means?
Lia Rikugun: haha
Lia Rikugun: maybe there are no words just feelings
Dash Earthboy: i just had a event where i tried to describe how confusing "horse's ass" might be
Lia Rikugun: what does it mean?
Wol Euler chuckles.
Dash Earthboy: well it's a label i often receive...
Wol Euler: oh dear :)
Dash Earthboy: and i was thinking about verbatim translations being confusing
Lia Rikugun: the ass of a horse?
Lia Rikugun: or is there another meaning?
Wol Euler: literally, yes; a deliberate insult
Dash Earthboy: when a culture doesn't have conceptual synchronicity
Wol Euler: Trottel is close
Dash Earthboy: hang on friends
Wol Euler nods.
Lia Rikugun: horse's ass means being dumb?
Dash Earthboy: so what if your culture, like the one Jesus was in, only knew of horses and asses as beasts of burden?
Wol Euler: to me it always has a flavour of "dumb" yes,
Dash Earthboy: a verbatim translation of "horse's ass" to them wouldn't make much sense
Wol Euler: interesting...
Dash Earthboy: so they might translate "horse's ass" as "horse's sservant"
Lia Rikugun: ah
Dash Earthboy: which is not what people mean about me
Dash Earthboy: :)
Lia Rikugun: why would someone call you horses ass?
--BELL--
Qt Core: i'm thinking about the awful translation of technical manuals i saw in the years... i never buy translated manuals anymore)
FcSeeker Resident: please exuse me
Lia Rikugun: welcome back fcseeker
Dash Earthboy: we seriously need cultural reference points to understand translations of ancient texts (ie, more than 10 years old) :)
FcSeeker Resident: sorry I had to drop by somewhere
FcSeeker Resident: ty
Qt Core: speaking tp from euro adopters, how many of us stil say something like "i have no one " to say i have no money ? children wopuld not really get it anymore
Dash Earthboy: good example Qt
Qt Core: (but i'm rich in spelling errors)
Wol Euler: hehehe
Lia Rikugun: hehe
Dash Earthboy: i'm in that club too
Lia Rikugun: hi electraSerrano
ElectraSerrano Resident: hi all
Lia Rikugun: nice to meet you
Wol Euler: welcome back, electra, nice to see you again
Qt Core: hi electraSerrano
Dash Earthboy: hi electra
FcSeeker Resident: Hello Electra

8 exercises for our brains...

Dash Earthboy: i hear there are 8 really good exercises for our brains :)
Lia Rikugun: exercises for what?
Wol Euler: mm?
Dash Earthboy: number 2 is "talk to others"
Lia Rikugun: what do you exercise with these?
Qt Core: (hoping number 1 is listen others ;-)
Dash Earthboy: your Brain
Lia Rikugun: yes but what?
FcSeeker Resident: would you like to share the whole list ?
Dash Earthboy: exercise for brain may help prevent old age forgetfulness
Lia Rikugun: (yes sorry, :)
FcSeeker Resident: Hello arabella
Qt Core: hi Ara!
Lia Rikugun: so exercise against alzheimers for example ok
Dash Earthboy: yah Qt I think they meant "talk with others"
Lia Rikugun: hello ara
arabella Ella: Hiya!
Dash Earthboy: hey ara
Lia Rikugun: ok what are the other 9 dash?
Dash Earthboy: number 8 is "smile"
arabella Ella smiles
Lia Rikugun: haha you directly set it into practice ara
Dash Earthboy: number 7 is practice reasoning
arabella Ella: that was my intntion :)
Dash Earthboy: number 6 is "consciously relax"
arabella Ella: sorry to say this but brain exercise does not help against dementia
Dash Earthboy: heheh ara
arabella Ella: it is a myth
Dash Earthboy: does anything?
arabella Ella: no nothing helps except avoidance of trauma
Dash Earthboy: bubble wrap your life?
arabella Ella: imposs
Dash Earthboy: number 5 is "yawning"
Lia Rikugun: but now what do I exercise with this list of 10 things?
arabella Ella: /m is yawning over and over again
Lia Rikugun: mindfulness?
Dash Earthboy: number 4 is "meditating"
Dash Earthboy: only 8 things on the list Lia
Lia Rikugun: oh 8 ok
Dash Earthboy: exeercises for the brain
Dash Earthboy: it's from a doctor Andrew Newberg
Lia Rikugun: sorry but can you explain more, I dont understand what the exercises do to the brain
Dash Earthboy: number 3 is "physical exercise"
arabella Ella: the probably regulate the neurons and electric and chemical impulses in the brain the way i understand it
arabella Ella: both relax and activate
Dash Earthboy: my notes on the list is that it helps keep brains healthier
arabella Ella: aristotle's golden mean
arabella Ella: balance
arabella Ella: moderation
--BELL--
Dash Earthboy: those are good principles to live by :)
Lia Rikugun: yes definitely
arabella Ella: who is yawning here?
Dash Earthboy: somebody practicing these brain exercises?
arabella Ella: possibly i definitly heard a loud yawn
Lia Rikugun: do you do these exercises dash?
Lia Rikugun: I mean actively?
Dash Earthboy: pretty much altho i just came across this article
arabella Ella: do u find any one in particular more effective?
Lia Rikugun: Neurotheology, thats interesting
Dash Earthboy: i've dealt with Alzheimers patients and other such mental disabilities for years now
Lia Rikugun: Thats andrew newbeergs book
Dash Earthboy: yes Lia
arabella Ella: do you find that anything works for alzheimers?
Dash Earthboy: the 36 hour day
arabella Ella: ?
FcSeeker Resident: love and forgiveness

oddities of language...

Dash Earthboy: that's the title of a book for caretakers ara :)
arabella Ella: oh
Dash Earthboy: or should i say "care givers"?
Wol Euler: :)
Lia Rikugun: :)
Wol Euler: back to oddities of language :)
arabella Ella: as long as it is understood :)
Dash Earthboy: yes!
Lia Rikugun: the opposite of the real meaning :)
Wol Euler: I suspect many caregivers would be offended to be called caretakers :)
Lia Rikugun: how would this look like?
Dash Earthboy: isn't it strange for morticians to be called "caretakers" when the original term is "undertakers"?
Wol Euler: (caretaker in institutionen liegt etwa zwischen hausmeister und putzfrau :)
Wol Euler: oh, are they? that is new to me
Wol Euler: I knew it as a euphemism for janitor
Lia Rikugun: (oh wol thank you)
arabella Ella: yes Wol me too
Lia Rikugun: to me it sounded like someone talking the care away instead of giving it
Dash Earthboy: bulding & grounds maintenance?
Lia Rikugun: *taking
arabella Ella nos
Dash Earthboy: building*
arabella Ella: nods
arabella Ella: also security to some extent
Dash Earthboy: did you imagine this discussion an hour ago Lia?
Lia Rikugun: no why?
Dash Earthboy: just wondered if you were disappointed?
Lia Rikugun: I knew i would be online
Lia Rikugun: oh, i didnt expect anything :)
Lia Rikugun: fresh and open :)
Dash Earthboy: ah yes, the "low expectations" approach
Lia Rikugun: nono
Lia Rikugun: this is a misunderstanding
Lia Rikugun: not "low"
Lia Rikugun: just "no"
Lia Rikugun: ;) haha this sounds so funny
Lia Rikugun: no expectations is different to low expectations
Dash Earthboy: should be an interesting read later on :)
Lia Rikugun: ;)
Lia Rikugun: confusing confusing

Aphrodite arrives and brings a scooter with her :)

FcSeeker Resident: Hello Aphrodite
Dash Earthboy: hey aph
Lia Rikugun: hi aphrodite
Qt Core: Hi Aphro
arabella Ella: Hiya Aphr
Aphrodite Macbain: Hello everyone. I've been looking for greek statues
Wol Euler: heheheh
Dash Earthboy: hehe
Aphrodite Macbain: on my scooter
Wol Euler: sounds like fun
arabella Ella: what will u do with them?
Dash Earthboy: or at least an Adonis?
Aphrodite Macbain: make a performance!
arabella Ella: cool
Aphrodite Macbain: I'm looking for Zeus. Has anyone seen him?
Wol Euler: he went that way.
arabella Ella: not yet
Dash Earthboy: he's standing behind me :)
Dash Earthboy: looking over my shoulder :)
Aphrodite Macbain: yikes
Aphrodite Macbain: Pema as Zeus?
Dash Earthboy: sometimes people forget
Aphrodite Macbain: :-) he he
arabella Ella waits for Dash to continue ...
--BELL--
Dash Earthboy: oh! me ara?
arabella Ella: :)
Dash Earthboy: (nice vespa aph)
Qt Core: i need to be elsewhere, bye all
Wol Euler: bye qt, take care
Dash Earthboy: bye Qt
Aphrodite Macbain: Bye
Aphrodite Macbain: Bye! Qt
arabella Ella: notte Qt
Aphrodite Macbain: want a ride on my vespa?
FcSeeker Resident: bye Qt
Dash Earthboy: yes aph
Lia Rikugun: who did you mean by zeus by the way?
Aphrodite Macbain: hop on!
Dash Earthboy: it will take me back to riding behind my older sis :)
Aphrodite Macbain: whoever I can find to act his role
Dash Earthboy: you drive aph!
Lia Rikugun: byebye
arabella Ella: LOL
FcSeeker Resident: lol
Dash Earthboy: whee!
Lia Rikugun: oh wow
Wol Euler chuckles.
Dash Earthboy: thanks Aph !
Aphrodite Macbain: sorry I still have to take lessons
Lia Rikugun: ah just in time to make a quick snapshot

Dash Earthboy: you done good Aph
arabella Ella: gtg good night all!
Aphrodite Macbain: sorry about all the exhaust
Lia Rikugun: bye ara
Wol Euler: be ara, take care
Wol Euler: *bye
Dash Earthboy: g'nite Ara
Aphrodite Macbain: Bye
Aphrodite Macbain: Bye! ara
Lia Rikugun: i think i will go to bed too
FcSeeker Resident: bye ara
Wol Euler: bye lia, sleep well
Lia Rikugun: good night
Dash Earthboy: g'nite Lia
FcSeeker Resident: bye Lia
Aphrodite Macbain: nit nite. I think I'll go and lie down in ths sun for a while.
Dash Earthboy: sounds good Aph
Wol Euler: and I shall go to WoK
Dash Earthboy: i guess i should go rustle up some supper
Wol Euler: goodnight, dash; bye fc
Wol Euler: take care
FcSeeker Resident: wishes good time to you too
Dash Earthboy: g'nite all
FcSeeker Resident: bye