2018.08.11 13:00 - Robotic Aircraft and Artificially Intelligent Fish

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Bruce Mowbray. The comments are by Bruce Mowbray.

     

    Bruce Mowbray: Hi, Riddle.

    Riddle Sideways: howdee, Bruce

    Riddle Sideways: long time no seeing

    Bruce Mowbray: Yes.

    Riddle Sideways: wondering how Ohio's election went

    Riddle Sideways: from your view

    Bruce Mowbray: Wonderfully well, actually.

    Riddle Sideways: /listens for more

    Bruce Mowbray: The 12th district has been held by a Republican only two years since... 1938, I think.

    Bruce Mowbray: and they STILL have not announced a winner for it.

    Bruce Mowbray: 1,600 vote separation, I think.

    Riddle Sideways: do you think there will be a recount?

    Bruce Mowbray: Provisional ballots will be counted 12 days after Election Day.

    Bruce Mowbray: I doubt it.

    Riddle Sideways: what is a provisional ballot?

    Bruce Mowbray: Hmmmm... I think they are individuals who show up at polls without proper ID's or proper registration. . . something like that.

    Bruce Mowbray: They can vote, but not get counted for 12 days.

    Bruce Mowbray: also, absentee ballots are not yet counted.

    Bruce Mowbray: most of those will probably be military though.

    Bruce Mowbray: (so probably GOP).

    Bruce Mowbray: The recount will be triggered if the separation is .5% or less.

    Bruce Mowbray: (state law)

    Riddle Sideways: what is it at now?

    Bruce Mowbray: about .8%

    Riddle Sideways: being too lazy to look it up

    Bruce Mowbray: np

    Riddle Sideways: thanks

    Bruce Mowbray: The amazing thing is that this district went overwhelmingly for Trump

    Bruce Mowbray: and has always gone Republican - except for two years.

    Bruce Mowbray: so being this close a race forebodes a Blue Flood come November.

    Riddle Sideways: yes, gives hope to some

    Bruce Mowbray: and there are some 60 districts throughout the country that are far less GOP that also went for Trump....

    Bruce Mowbray: so those are probably even more likely to flip than Ohio's 12th.

    Riddle Sideways: browsers are tired of all the clicking already today

    Riddle Sideways: am traveling this next week and loading sites to read later

    Bruce Mowbray: Whoever wins Ohio's 12th will only be in office until November, anyway.

     

    --BELL—

     

    Bruce Mowbray: Oh?

    Riddle Sideways: oh ok

    Bruce Mowbray: Going to some exotic lands?

    Riddle Sideways: the AI project is going badly and think a start-over reading documentation and education might help

    Riddle Sideways: seem to have skipped much

    Bruce Mowbray: Please bring me up to date on the "AI project." Is that your own personal thing, something connected to a corporation, or what?

    Riddle Sideways: Going to Exotic NYC and Salem, Mass

    Riddle Sideways: personal thing

    Bruce Mowbray: I used to go to NYC twice a year--- for about 7 years.

    Riddle Sideways: remember most of those

    Bruce Mowbray: always stay at the Hostelling International Youth Hostel on 103rd Street ....

    Bruce Mowbray: I'd always go the third week in May and the last week in September.

    Bruce Mowbray: Ideal weather, then.

    Riddle Sideways: always stay up in Westchester

    Bruce Mowbray: ahhh!

    Riddle Sideways: it is hot and smelly in summer in the city

    Bruce Mowbray: Yes, it surely is.

    Bruce Mowbray: Cities hold the heat a lot more than rural areas do.

    Bruce Mowbray: In Ohio that difference can be as much as ten degrees (difference) in the early evening.

    Bruce Mowbray: also less wind.

    Riddle Sideways: and NYC has a garbage issue

    Bruce Mowbray: I got a new drone.

    Riddle Sideways: oooooo

    Bruce Mowbray: https://4k4less.com/autel/autel-robotics-x-star-orange-drone-backpack/?gclid=CjwKCAjwqarbBRBtEiwArlfEIFx9jPqiEagM7IjCCKXWnfagjnj-KgafPxFpCibMihKUrI_zTAllExoCOXcQAvD_BwE

    Bruce Mowbray: I flew it twice today for the first time and really like it.

    Riddle Sideways: wow

    Bruce Mowbray: I like it a LOT more than the DJI Phantom 4 Pro

    Riddle Sideways: a case and backpack and a great camera

    Bruce Mowbray: and it cost about half as much.

    Bruce Mowbray: Yep.

    Bruce Mowbray: I could show you my very first flight... (I'm loading my second flight right now.)

    Bruce Mowbray: This is unlisted on YouTube, but I'll show you: https://youtu.be/3UaNm56wiFo

    Riddle Sideways: video of the crash?

    Bruce Mowbray: No. a vid I shot this afternoon.

    Bruce Mowbray: before adjusting settings for exposure.

    Riddle Sideways: wow

    Riddle Sideways: hovers so still

    Bruce Mowbray: Yep.

    Riddle Sideways: are there auto-exposure settings?

    Bruce Mowbray: There are... but I prefer to set aperture manually and everything else auto to follow that.

    Bruce Mowbray: also I shoot at 60 frames per second.

    Riddle Sideways: smooth

    Bruce Mowbray: The problem with auto exposure is that if you have a lot of sky in the frame, it will tend to make all of the land too dark.

    Riddle Sideways: oh, the corn was already dark

    Bruce Mowbray: Tilting the camera toward the land more helps that, of course.

    Bruce Mowbray: Yes, I had not yet set the exposure for this drone.

    Riddle Sideways: you were already a practiced pilot

    Bruce Mowbray: I've done that now, so the second video is much improved with that.

    Bruce Mowbray: Well, I've had the DJI drone for two weeks.

    Bruce Mowbray: don't know if that makes me "practiced" or not.

    Bruce Mowbray: I know my way around the joysticks.

     

    --BELL—

     

    Riddle Sideways: am afraid of the joysticks

    Bruce Mowbray: The rest of the settings are new to me, though.

    Bruce Mowbray: This new drone's joystick control is far superior to DJI's IMHO.

    Bruce Mowbray: less jerkiness, ....

    Riddle Sideways: trying to fly a quadcopter simulator on tablet has been dangerous

    Bruce Mowbray: all-in-all, better.

    Bruce Mowbray: Oh yes.

    Bruce Mowbray: It does take some practice.

    Bruce Mowbray: I practiced in the narrow space of my front yard....

    Riddle Sideways: from microscopes to drones

    Bruce Mowbray: This new drone has NO object avoidance systems.... like the DJI did (on four sides and the bottom.)

    Riddle Sideways: oh, so you have to be careful

    Bruce Mowbray: Yes, microscopes for winter and rainy days; drones for summer and fair days.

    Bruce Mowbray: Yes, but I like taking control of the flight.

    Bruce Mowbray: I'm also landing manually rather than on auto.

    Bruce Mowbray: This new drone does not seem to have as accurate a Return to Home mode as the other one does.

    Bruce Mowbray: The other one (DJI Phantom 4 Pro) landed automatically within inches of where it launched.

    Riddle Sideways: the Follow Mode might hit trees?

    Bruce Mowbray: Any mode might hit trees if you're not high enough.

    Bruce Mowbray: including Return to Home.

    Riddle Sideways: hmmm

    Bruce Mowbray: :)

    Riddle Sideways: have seen vids of following skiers

    Riddle Sideways: exciting

    Bruce Mowbray: The Phantom could also hit thin branches or electrical wires....

    Bruce Mowbray: Yes, mine would do that (following any moving object)

    Bruce Mowbray: Did you see the vid of the flight over the village five miles north of the farm?

    Riddle Sideways: yesterday, a friend sent a link to DIY build an open source quadcopter

    Bruce Mowbray: Would you like to see it?

    Bruce Mowbray: Cooool -- to make your own drone!

    Riddle Sideways: yes, please

    Bruce Mowbray: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9B_IkVe04c

    Riddle Sideways: nice, watching

    Bruce Mowbray: :)

    Riddle Sideways: ah, can put it on second monitor

    Riddle Sideways: and full

    Riddle Sideways: small town,

    Bruce Mowbray: about 800 souls, I think.

    Riddle Sideways: squabbles

    Bruce Mowbray: oh yes.

    Riddle Sideways: about the size of [my] growing up town

    Riddle Sideways: that just came from reunion

    Bruce Mowbray: New Holland is 200 years old this year. Anniversary celebration on September 1st.

    Bruce Mowbray: The second vid I shot today is 92% uploaded on YouTube.

    Riddle Sideways: ㋡

    Bruce Mowbray: :)

    Bruce Mowbray: Could you hear the narration? (on the New Holland one)

    Riddle Sideways: yes, very good

    Bruce Mowbray: kk, ty.

    Bruce Mowbray: I'm going to make a series of New Holland vids for the anniversary... in the fall.

    Riddle Sideways: re: the 2 neighbors quarrels

    Bruce Mowbray: Yeah!

    Bruce Mowbray: Aunt Verna raised my dad.

     

    --BELL—

     

    Bruce Mowbray: Her sister was my dad's mother.

    Riddle Sideways: hopefully there are no drone shooter-downers in town

    Bruce Mowbray: We can HOPE.

    Bruce Mowbray: More likely that would happen out here in the country.

    Bruce Mowbray: I've already talked to my neighbors about shooting down my drone...

    Riddle Sideways: if you fly over their property lines

    Bruce Mowbray: and they promised not to do that.

    Riddle Sideways: good

    Bruce Mowbray: Well, legally you can fly over anyone's property

    Riddle Sideways: whether they would take it home and mount it on the wall

    Bruce Mowbray: so long as you're not spying on them or doing something else illegal (like dropping drugs or explosives).

    Riddle Sideways: does Blub pause??

    Bruce Mowbray: Blub pauses for all 90-secnd stops, yes.

    Riddle Sideways: automatically?

    Bruce Mowbray: when he remembers to.

    Bruce Mowbray: nope.

    Riddle Sideways: never noticed that

    Bruce Mowbray: I have to pause him/

    Riddle Sideways: ah

    Riddle Sideways: had me

    Bruce Mowbray: I can also make him go faster.

    Bruce Mowbray: like this.

    Riddle Sideways: gets dizzy

    Bruce Mowbray: also gets bored.

    Bruce Mowbray: nothing worse than fishy boredom, you know.

    Riddle Sideways: yes

    Riddle Sideways: the fresh water aquarium here burned out its lights 4 days ago

    Bruce Mowbray: Oh dear.

    Riddle Sideways: just got the replacement in

    Bruce Mowbray: any electrocuted fish?

    Riddle Sideways: they were really bored of night

    Riddle Sideways: no. did research submarines tho

    Riddle Sideways: they are too big yet

    Riddle Sideways: want a small submarine to drone around the tanks

    Bruce Mowbray: Wow. That would be coool.

    Riddle Sideways: have Raspberry Pi fish cams now,

    Bruce Mowbray: You will make this?

    Riddle Sideways: but not ideal positioning

    Bruce Mowbray: Hmmmm.

    Bruce Mowbray: Do your Pi fish make vids?

    Riddle Sideways: get reflections off glass

    Bruce Mowbray: ahhhh... understandable.

    Riddle Sideways: think the Clown actually acts for the cam

    Bruce Mowbray: Drones have trouble with glass and water surfaces, too.

    Bruce Mowbray: so, you will make the submarine?

    Riddle Sideways: maybe

    Riddle Sideways: one of the 1,234 project ideas

    Bruce Mowbray: sounds really cool....

    Bruce Mowbray: the computer is inside the fish or outside the aquarium?

    Riddle Sideways: try 73.70.40.100:43220 please

    Bruce Mowbray: (My second vid just finished uploading.)

    Riddle Sideways: house electricity was off 2 days ago and a new dynamic IP loaded

    Bruce Mowbray: loading your URL now.

    Riddle Sideways: that should be the salt tank

    Bruce Mowbray: It's not coming in....

    Riddle Sideways: not loading? or not finding?

    Bruce Mowbray: Not finding.

    Riddle Sideways: darn

    Riddle Sideways: wanted that for the trip

     

    NOTE: Riddle's URL:  http://73.70.40.100:43220/  did eventually come in.  A FINE fish view, indeed!

     

    Bruce Mowbray: Before we go, here's my latest vid -- if you're interested. (after I made exposure adjustments.)

    Bruce Mowbray: https://youtu.be/JSzEbT66mRs

    Riddle Sideways: ah good

    Riddle Sideways: with voice

    Bruce Mowbray: Maybe you could tack the URL on to this session later.

    Bruce Mowbray: Time for me to go.

    Bruce Mowbray: Thanks for a cool session.

    Riddle Sideways: very cool

    Riddle Sideways: very fast

    Bruce Mowbray: Bye for now, Riddle.

    Riddle Sideways: bye

    Riddle Sideways: and thanks

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