2009.02.28 19:00 - Exemplifying We Don't Get Set in Our Ways

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    The guardian for the meeting was Myna Maven.  The comments are Myna Maven's.

    There  was some sort of bug that happened when claiming the chat this time.  I was delivered the chat at the end of the session but the page was empty.  I refreshed it several times but it was still empty.  So I copied the chat directly out of the chat log and hand removed time signatures etc.

    The session meandered from this to that to the other, body space to temporal breadth to SL and time, William of Orange, Dutch vs. Hollandish, potato salad (which led to the origin of "salad days"), Thai curries and...well, you get the idea. 

    Thus Pila suggested the use of a tag cloud.  After removing names and times I produced the above with a tag cloud generator.

    Being we played and this is its record.  Rather than my further commenting, try looking above for an interesting word and searching on the page to see where it fit in. :)

    By the way, I first accidentally put this entry under 2009.02.27 07:00 as a sub entry so had to repost it.  I deleted the other post and so there is a record of the deletion in the Wiki.

      Myna Maven: Hi Buddha.
      Myna Maven: I'm trying to claim the chat.
      buddha Nirvana: HI Myna :)
      Myna Maven: For some reason it's not showing up on my screen yet. :)
      buddha Nirvana: soeey, i dont know how to do that
      buddha Nirvana: sorry*
      buddha Nirvana: HI susi:)
      Myna Maven: I'm just befuddled.
      buddha Nirvana: hehe
      Myna Maven: Had no problem the last two weeks.
      buddha Nirvana: perhaps its lag
      Myna Maven: Hi Susi.
      Susi Alcott: hi buddha and Myna
      Myna Maven: I'm trying to claim the chat, Susi, but it's not showing up on
    my screen.
      Susi Alcott: aha
      Myna Maven: Finally! Got it.
      Myna Maven: Hi, Pila.
      buddha Nirvana: HI Pila
      Susi Alcott: _/!\_
      Susi Alcott: hi Pila
      Pila Mulligan: hi Myna, buddha and Susi
      Pila Mulligan: hello Pema
      Myna Maven: Hi Pema.
      buddha Nirvana: HI pema
      Susi Alcott: hello Pema
      Pema Pera: Hi everyone! We're very spread out today :)
      Pila Mulligan: maybe we are prepared for additional arrivals :)
      Pema Pera: :-)
      Pema Pera: Hi Eliza!
      buddha Nirvana: HiEliza:)
      Susi Alcott: hi Eliza
      Eliza Madrigal: Hello :))
      Myna Maven: Ah, there's Eliza. Hi Eliza.
      Pila Mulligan: hi Eliza
      Eliza Madrigal: We're scattered around today :)
      Pila Mulligan: indeed :)
      Pema Pera: yes, I was surprised too
      Myna Maven: :)
      Pema Pera: we don't get set in our way, clearly!
      Pila Mulligan: 01] Pema Pera: Hi everyone! We're very spread out today :)
    == great minds follow the same paths
      Eliza Madrigal: Clearly :)
      Eliza Madrigal: hah
      Pila Mulligan: :)
      Susi Alcott: maybe our ego has grown up so much that we need more space
    around :)
      Eliza Madrigal: hahah collective ego...we're bouncing around in it?
      Pila Mulligan: or, as Daniel Boone said, elbow room
      Pema Pera: :)
      Susi Alcott: (made the lovline triangel after his arrival)
      Pila Mulligan: the studies of the sensory distinctions between urban and
    rural dwellers can be interesting
      Pila Mulligan: urban dwellers are much more sensitive to object proximity
    it seems
      Myna Maven: Hmm, I'm an urban dweller for decades. But spent childhood
    years split between the city and the desert.
      Susi Alcott: (then the other one appeared when Pila and Pema arrived)
      Susi Alcott: (then nice Lady sat beside him :) )
      Susi Alcott: _/!\_
      Eliza Madrigal: Am I throwing off the pattern? :)
      Pila Mulligan: :)
      buddha Nirvana: Did you bump into any shaman Myna?
      Susi Alcott: no; adding to it ?
      Eliza Madrigal: :)
      Myna Maven: In the desert?
      Pema Pera: :-)
      buddha Nirvana: yes
      Myna Maven: No.
      Pema Pera: haha
      Myna Maven: Just me and the desert and the snakes and the coyotes and the
      buddha Nirvana: :)
      Pila Mulligan: sounds toxic
      Myna Maven: Up near Hanford.
      Pila Mulligan: in part
      Pila Mulligan: ahh
      Pila Mulligan: the nuke
      buddha Nirvana: perhaps they were occupying the astral realms
      Myna Maven: My father worked there.
      Myna Maven: But the desert is certainly an environment that invites
      Pila Mulligan: so it has been said
      Eliza Madrigal: I would think so...vast
      Eliza Madrigal: You were there as a young child, or older, Myna?
      Eliza Madrigal: Not sure why I ask...
      Myna Maven: We moved away when I was ten.
      Eliza Madrigal: Ah...so a large part of your childhood then
      Pila Mulligan: the Hanford Nuclear Reservation is the largest nuclear
    waste dump in the Western Hemisphere
      Myna Maven: Yes, Eliza.
      Myna Maven: And Yes Pila.
      Pema Pera: Hi Adelene and Threedee!
      Pila Mulligan: hi Ade and Threedee
      Adelene Dawner: Hi All ^.^
      Susi Alcott: hi Ade and 3D
      Myna Maven: Hello Adelene, Three.
      Eliza Madrigal: :) Threedee, Adelene, Hi
      Pila Mulligan: purrrrrr
      Eliza Madrigal: :)
      Susi Alcott: _/!\_
      buddha Nirvana: Hi ya adelene:)
      Threedee Shepherd: hiya, there is wireless where I am. A bit slow,but
      Adelene Dawner: Hi, Buddha ^.^
      Squee: What have I always believed?
      Pila Mulligan: welcome to the slow wireless club 3D
      buddha Nirvana: Hi threedee :
      Eliza Madrigal: A delay can add breath to a conversation, right ? :)
      Pema Pera: :-)
      Pila Mulligan: the soul thrives in stillness :)
      Pema Pera: as opposed to being all wired up!
      Eliza Madrigal: :)
      Myna Maven: :)
      Pema Pera: wireless . . . off the leash?
      Threedee Shepherd: or temporal breadth, as the case may be ;>
      Pila Mulligan: :)
      Pila Mulligan: 'temporal breadth' ... since techological metaphors are
    popular, 3D, I wonder if different moments of time can have different
    bandwidths? so to speak ...
      Threedee Shepherd: I am reading the book "coming of age in SL" he makes
    the point that the ability to be in open chat and multiple IMs at the same
    time is unique
      Pila Mulligan: a new human skill?
      Eliza Madrigal: I find it difficult still...
      Susi Alcott: _/!\_ > if different moments of time can have different
    bandwidths? so to speak ...
      Pema Pera: What I found more difficult to learn was to use chat and voice
    at the same time
      Pema Pera: but by now I am quite used to that too
      Susi Alcott: _/!\_
      Eliza Madrigal: Not ready to think about that one... :)
      Eliza Madrigal: hah
      Pema Pera: in our astronomy meetings we frequently mix voice and text,
    and then of course there are the IMs coming in (for me some of them in
    Japanese, so I have to switch fonts frequently)
      Adelene Dawner: That's no surprise, Pem - text and voice use two
    different parts of the brain - it's not common to be used to juggling those
    two. (Yet? ^.^)
      Susi Alcott: 'back then' some could have several phones online at the
    same time
      Eliza Madrigal: I suppose this does take multitasking to a new
    level..need more compartments
      Myna Maven: Hi, Stim.
      Eliza Madrigal: Hello Stim
      Pila Mulligan: hi Stim
      Threedee Shepherd: hi
      Adelene Dawner: Hi Stim
      Susi Alcott: hi Stim
      Stim Morane: Hi all!
      Pema Pera: hi there Stim!
      buddha Nirvana: hi stim:)
      Eliza Madrigal: Maybe dealing with diff. people and diff. subjects are
    diff. kinds of time also...different paces..all at once
      Threedee Shepherd: A point about simultaneous chat and IM is that you can
    be participating in the same conversation topic at entirely different
      Eliza Madrigal: :)
      Pema Pera: yes, I've had that happen, Three
      Threedee Shepherd: In terms of thought that kind of parallel processing
    is close to how the brain actually works
      Pila Mulligan: body language is missing in SL, maybe IM helps fill that
      Pila Mulligan: not with the same information, just as filling a vacant
    space :)
      Susi Alcott: there's also many animations to be much body language :)
      Eliza Madrigal: Would make sense. In day to day life, I've been trying to
    notice when I am multitasking to an extreme and slow it down
      Threedee Shepherd: The lack of body language--much of which is not
    intentional--makes the use of words more potent, I think.
      Eliza Madrigal: But here is required in order to flow even slightely
      Adelene Dawner nods at Three.
      Eliza Madrigal: yes, agree Three
      Squee: There are only two ways to live your life. One is as though
    nothing is a miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracle.
      Threedee Shepherd: Actuallu Squee, One way I say that is that "because
    nothing matters, everything matters"
      Squee knows several variations on that theme. ^.^
      buddha Nirvana: A nice piece of music is a miracle to me
      Pila Mulligan: 3D, your term 'temporal breadth' could also apply to a
    meditative phenomenon of widening mind moments
      Threedee Shepherd: mmhmm
      buddha Nirvana: i think that came to mind as i'm listening to a lovely
    piece of music
      Eliza Madrigal: What is it buddha?
      Myna Maven: "I am spread across the universe!" I hear behind me (my
    husband and son playing). That would be a widening mind moment.
      Eliza Madrigal: :D
      Threedee Shepherd: However, widening mind moments does not affect real
    time as measured by a clock, unfortunately.
      Pila Mulligan: :)
      buddha Nirvana: It;s Satie's Gnossienne 1-8
      buddha Nirvana: Ver nice
      Susi Alcott: _/!\_
      Pila Mulligan: that old sun just keeps its pace
      buddha Nirvana: 4-8
      Susi Alcott: 'stairway to heaven' started to sing inside me
      Myna Maven: Satie is nice.
      Pila Mulligan: going 'round and 'round the earth :)
      Threedee Shepherd: SL is interesting in that it is spatially unbounded,
    but cannot change the pace of real time
      Susi Alcott: or give 'new' time
      Threedee Shepherd: mmhmm
      Susi Alcott: timeless one
      Pema Pera: though it often feels that in one week in SL more happens than
    in two months in RL . . . .
      Susi Alcott: or in two years :)
      Pila Mulligan: it does, indeed, Pema
      Threedee Shepherd: it is rare to sit with 5-10 people hours at a time
    throughout the week in RL.
      Pila Mulligan: maybe the absence of the need for physical organiztion and
    travel is a factor
      Pema Pera: oh yes, so the time saved is travel time -- a real time warp
    there, even though time itself doesn't flow differently during meetings
      Susi Alcott: having im with sombody who's belived one has stepped
    foreward, with an other who invites to the wedding and few other for
    somebody's other kind of special moment ..:)
      Threedee Shepherd: Well, here you can be "listening" participating and
    alsodo a RL task, and no one is offended by thinking you are being rude
      Susi Alcott: need to go again
      Pila Mulligan: bye Susi
      Myna Maven: Bye Susi.
      buddha Nirvana: Bue susi :)
      Eliza Madrigal: Bye, Susi :)
      Pema Pera: bye Susi!
      Susi Alcott: _/!\_
      Stim Morane: bye Susi!
      Threedee Shepherd: bye
      Pila Mulligan: SL has a culutre then, with its own time, manners, etc.
      Pila Mulligan: culture*
      Myna Maven: Certainly.
      Pema Pera: absolutely
      Adelene Dawner nods.
      Pema Pera: that's why there is no manual . . . .
      Adelene Dawner: And hte internet at large has one, too.
      Pema Pera: getting into SL is like immigrating
      Myna Maven: I'm still becoming familiar with SL culture.
      buddha Nirvana: and lots of sub cultures it hink too
      buddha Nirvana: think*
      Adelene Dawner nods at Buddha
      buddha Nirvana: anyone seen anything particularly shocking in SL?
      Pila Mulligan: :)
      Adelene Dawner: We got griefed last night, here ^.^ That was pretty
      Adelene Dawner took pix, one sec ^.^
      Pema Pera: really?
      buddha Nirvana: Hi pato:)
      Myna Maven: Hello Pato.
      Pila Mulligan: selcome ot SL Pato
      Pato Sparta: hi
      Pila Mulligan: welcome to*
      Adelene Dawner: Yep, someone was throwing giant purple cubes all over the
      Eliza Madrigal: Pato, hello :)
      Threedee Shepherd: lots of sex and violence if you look for it
      Pema Pera: Hi Pato
      Eliza Madrigal: I've not seen much that has shocked me...but then I stay
    close :)
      buddha Nirvana: I once typed in china to the place search...came upon a
    dungeon with women hanging naked to earn Lindens...
      buddha Nirvana: That was fairly shocking
      Pila Mulligan: someone's fanatsy run amok
      buddha Nirvana: dont recall china ever being like that
      Adelene Dawner gave you Snapshot : Play as Being Pavilion, Bieup (64, 36,
      Threedee Shepherd: if it id virtual, why is it shocking?
      buddha Nirvana: ah, maybe i was'nt expecting it
      Threedee Shepherd: I mean that as a serious question
      Eliza Madrigal: That IS a good question Threeo
      Pema Pera: (was it not an art exhibit, Adelene, that picture :-)
      buddha Nirvana: i suppose if you spend any deal of time online, you
    become sensative to the 'sub cultures
      buddha Nirvana: Ty adelene
      Adelene Dawner: An involuntary one on our part, if so, Pem ^.^
      Eliza Madrigal: It is all very interesting... Very pleasant people can
    pull themselves together in the most antagonistic ways...
      Eliza Madrigal: Yikes Adelene
      buddha Nirvana: someones mind explodes
      buddha Nirvana: exploded in a sim*
      Adelene Dawner: And we were on the outskirts. I went flying while it was
    happening - found a shopping center north of here completely burried.
      Threedee Shepherd: I firmly believe that in RL, there is nothing human
    beings can do that has not been tried--which may be disturbing. SL just
    opens the possibilities, the proclivity remains
      Eliza Madrigal: ...though it is reminiscent of the pink Christo used
    around the islands in Miami years ago
      Myna Maven: WHat?
      Myna Maven: A shopping center completely buried?
      Adelene Dawner: Yep.
      buddha Nirvana: literally?
      Pema Pera: yes, Eliza, that's what came to mind for me too :)
      Adelene Dawner gave you Snapshot : This is going to be new Welcome ,
    Gukyeol (7, 77, 15.
      Eliza Madrigal: I remember driving to see them...was a moment for sure
      Eliza Madrigal: Ack! Adelene....does it take forever to remove these
      Pema Pera: We had orange outfits in Central Park a few years ago, here in
    Manhattan, by Christo
      Squee: Say yes to the things that will make you happy.
      Eliza Madrigal: The curtains?
      Adelene Dawner: Nope, Udge came and cleaned them up for us, took less
    than a minute once he got here. ^.^
      Eliza Madrigal: Ah...
      Pema Pera: yes, curtains
      Pema Pera: quite pretty, actually (in Central Park, that is)
      Eliza Madrigal: Some people were annoyed, I remember, but I would have
    liked to have gone
      Myna Maven: Oh, I remember reading about those curtains, yes.
      Pema Pera: I live three minutes walking away from where the curtains
      Myna Maven: They looked pretty cool in pictures.
      Pema Pera: I happened to wear orange shoes, by complete coincidence --
    many people pointed and smiled, commending me for my coordination :)
      Eliza Madrigal: Big Bursts of color...such an impression it makes on the
      Myna Maven: :)
      Pila Mulligan: kind of like a Buddhist St Patty's Day
      Myna Maven: Ha!
      Eliza Madrigal: haha. Hmm.....wondering what wardrobe is composed of that
    orange shoes first thing to grab :)
      Pema Pera: (alas, no New York Times photographer in sight)
      Threedee Shepherd: attacking a park with curtains beats carpet bombing
    any day
    Pema Pera: Well, orange is the Dutch national color (I'm from Holland)
    Eliza Madrigal: Just got that Pila!
    Pila Mulligan: oh, of course :0
    Pila Mulligan: forgot
    Pila Mulligan: the Orange family
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah....
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Pema Pera: "William of Orange" came from Holland, yes
    Pema Pera: Too bad what they did with it in Northern Ireland . . . .
    Threedee Shepherd: Pema, if people are from Holland, why are they Dutch
    rather than--say--Hollandish
    Pila Mulligan: lost me there Pema, what did they do?
      Pema Pera: because the English confuse Germans and Hollanders, Threedee
      Pema Pera: Look, it's your language not mine :-)
      buddha Nirvana: i know the difference, but thats only because i like
      Pema Pera: Oh, the Orange name in Northern Ireland being associated with
    the fanatic Protestants, Pila
      Pila Mulligan: ok, thanks
      Threedee Shepherd: Where did Nethelands enter the picture?
      Stim Morane: Time to go ... thanks, everyone!
      Pila Mulligan: bye Stim
      Pema Pera: Bye Stim
      Myna Maven: Bye Stim.
      Eliza Madrigal: Bye Stim
      Threedee Shepherd: bye
      buddha Nirvana: go well, stim
      Adelene Dawner: cya, Stim :)
      Pema Pera: William of Orange, Threedee
      Pema Pera: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orange_Institution
      Eliza Madrigal: Ah, better page than what I was on :)
      Pema Pera: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_III_of_England
      Pila Mulligan: "he main leader of the Dutch revolt against the Spanish
    that set off the Eighty Years' War and resulted in the formal independence
    of the United Provinces in 1648"
      Pema Pera: you see, how a spam attack can lead to a useful lesson about
    the influence of Holland on the world !
      Pema Pera: that's a different one, Pila :)
      Pila Mulligan: oh, well getting qa hotory esson here :)
      Pila Mulligan: thanks :)
      Pema Pera: having set those records straight, time to get some sleep for
      Pema Pera: good seeing y'all
      Myna Maven: Bye Pema.
      Eliza Madrigal: Night, pema
      Pila Mulligan: bye Pema
      buddha Nirvana: nite Pema:)
      Adelene Dawner: 'night, Pem.
      Pema Pera: bye everyone!
      Threedee Shepherd: bye
      Threedee Shepherd: goodnight all
      Myna Maven: G'nite Three.
      Adelene Dawner: 'night, Luv.
      Eliza Madrigal: Night, Threedee
      buddha Nirvana: Nite Threedee:, go wel
      Pila Mulligan: bye Threedee
      Eliza Madrigal: I slept most of the day but think it will be easy to
    sleep another 7 hrs or so....strange
      Myna Maven: Perhaps you are needing it.
      Pila Mulligan: :)
      buddha Nirvana: sure, i never tire of sleep
      Pila Mulligan: so I was still curious about the term 'Dutch' -- here's a
    wiki quote ...
      Pila Mulligan: The English word Dutch derives from the Low German Dütsch
    or Düütsch, which shares a common etymology with German Deutsch—in both
    cases, an adjective formed by adding the suffix -sch to the noun Deut
    ("Teut", as in Teuton and Teutonic), which means "human being". In effect,
    Dutch/Dütsch/Deutsch ultimately means "of human beings" or "of the people".
    In actual use, the term came to refer to all the peoples associated with
    the Holy Roman Empire, which included the Netherlands—especially those who
    spoke Germanic languages. Consequently, and for several centuries, the term
    "Dutch" was used to indicate people and things who were Dutch, Flemish,
    Frisian, Saxon, Westphalian, Hanoverian, Hamburger, Luxemburger, Limburger,
    and so on. In short, the term referred to all continental Germanic groups.
    For the most part, the American use of Dutch to mean "German" disappeared
    in the years following World War II, but certain terms have become classic
    and are still in use, such as "Dutch potato salad" and "Dutch
      Adelene Dawner: Interesting.
      Pila Mulligan: yes, never understood the term before
      buddha Nirvana: patato saladm reminds me - have you tried the hot salad
    since the alst time :)
      Pila Mulligan: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch
      Pila Mulligan: no, once was a fun start
      Eliza Madrigal: Neither had I, certainly
      buddha Nirvana: :))
      Pila Mulligan: warm potato salad would be nice
      Myna Maven: I hadn't realized it referred to all peoples of the Holy
    Roman Empire.
      buddha Nirvana: for sure, sounds good
      Pila Mulligan: yes, Myna -- new to e also
      buddha Nirvana: infact i think i may have had that before
    Eliza Madrigal: You would think it would come up more often ..
    Pila Mulligan: there seems to be a window of things like that (use of a
    term, or use of a salad)
      Pila Mulligan: it exists for a while, then it doesn't
      Myna Maven: Salad days. :)
      Pila Mulligan: :)
      Eliza Madrigal: :)
      Eliza Madrigal: I've no problems with hot potato anything.... hah
      Pila Mulligan: there's a local Tahi curry with potatoes in it, served on
    rice -- seems like it owuld be too starchy, but it is yummy
      buddha Nirvana: i like that term 'salad days', anyone know its origin?
      Eliza Madrigal: MMMM!
      Pila Mulligan: ... to Wiki :)
      buddha Nirvana: hehe:)
      Myna Maven: Off to Wiki! :)
      Eliza Madrigal: A friend and I are having a "curry party" soon...inviting
    everyone to make their own and bring it
      Pila Mulligan: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salad_days
      Pila Mulligan: The phrase was coined in Shakespeare's Antony and
    Cleopatra in 1606. In the speech at the end of Act One in which Cleopatra
    is regretting her youthful dalliances with Julius Caesar she sayss
     "...My salad days, / When I was green in judgment, cold in blood..."
      buddha Nirvana: Perhaps when 'things were good' - growing, fertilised
      buddha Nirvana: no idea
      Eliza Madrigal: Oh that's great
      Myna Maven: Ha! That's great.
      Myna Maven: Green in judgment.
      Myna Maven: Cold in blood.
      Myna Maven: Love it.
      buddha Nirvana: ah, v nice:)
      buddha Nirvana: i must try and conceal and use that line in a poem
      Pila Mulligan: http://bebopvegan.blogspot.com/2007/11/curry-tofu-and-
      Adelene Dawner yawns... time to go, folks. See you next time. :)
      buddha Nirvana: NIte adelene:)
      Pila Mulligan: bye Ade
      Myna Maven: Bye Adelene.
      Eliza Madrigal: Night, Adelene
      Pila Mulligan: actually this one is closer
      buddha Nirvana: Nite folks :)
      Pila Mulligan: bye buddha
      Myna Maven: Bye Buddha.
      Eliza Madrigal: Would like a way to save this link to desktop, but will
    just have to c/p I suppose
      Eliza Madrigal: Night Buddha
      Pila Mulligan: the first one used mashed potatoes, the second one is like
    the one they have here
      Myna Maven: No, no, not mashed potatoes. I don't think I'd like that.
      Pila Mulligan: not with rice :)
      Eliza Madrigal: yeah...not so much
      Pila Mulligan: the tofu chunks and potato chunks are about the same size
    and texture, blended in the thick yellow curry
      Myna Maven: That sounds good.
      Pila Mulligan: it is :)
      Eliza Madrigal: I'm going to try this....
      Eliza Madrigal: Once had a curry with terrific nuts of some sort cooked
    in...was fantastic..
      Eliza Madrigal: but I should have asked what they were
      Pila Mulligan: peanut is common as a flaovr in thai food
      Pila Mulligan: maybe it was peanuts
      Eliza Madrigal: These were small...do you think pine nuts?
      Eliza Madrigal: Is that common at all
      Pila Mulligan: could be
      Myna Maven: We don't eat Thai that frequently. So I wouldn't know.
      Pila Mulligan: haven't heard of it in curry myself, but it could well be
      Eliza Madrigal: They would have been seasoned before hand...had distinct
    sort of taste. Hm...might try that with this.
      Pila Mulligan: :)
      Eliza Madrigal: Okay....bed time again. Until recently it wasn't thought
    that you COULD catch up on sleep, but now they say otherwise
      Myna Maven: Really, Eliza?
      Myna Maven: i didn't know that.
      Myna Maven: I'll have to tell my body that.
      Eliza Madrigal: An article came out a few years ago...
      Pila Mulligan: well, have a good catch-up rest :)
      Myna Maven: :) Yes. G'night.
      Eliza Madrigal: And yes, you should! Give yourself permission :)
      Eliza Madrigal: Night
      Myna Maven: Do meandering sorts of chats go up on the chat log? I have
    seen instances where chats were left out that were not so PaB specific?
      Pila Mulligan: I'm not sure, Myna -- I am not tech savvy, so I have been
    shy about doing (or even laerning) about the logs and such
      Myna Maven: Oh, OK.
      Pila Mulligan: seems to me it is what it is, so why not poat it :)
      Pila Mulligan: post*
      Myna Maven: :)
      Myna Maven: I will do.
      Myna Maven: What should the title be!
      Pila Mulligan: Pema asked me to do some time slots and to be honest one
    part of not takng him up was the tech challenge :)
      Myna Maven: We covered potatos and Dutch and...
      Pila Mulligan: Dutch was interesting
      Myna Maven: Temporal breadth
      Pila Mulligan: earlier: seating, time, ... :)
      Myna Maven: Can we make up a title out of potates, Dutch and Temporal
      Myna Maven: Oh, yes, the being spread out.
      Pila Mulligan: Sl culture
      Myna Maven: Buried shopping centers.
      Pila Mulligan: :)
      Pila Mulligan: this was a meandering one :)
      Pila Mulligan: Multitaksing?
      Myna Maven: That too.
      Pila Mulligan: well, it is an artistic challeneg for you as Guardian then
      Myna Maven: Thanks.
      Myna Maven: :)
      Pila Mulligan: :) those word pictures they make are fun
      Pila Mulligan: on Wikis
      Myna Maven: Oh, yes, those.
      Myna Maven: Blogs too.
      Myna Maven: Weighted.
      Pila Mulligan: maybe you can plug the text into a word piucture maker and
    see what emerges
      Myna Maven: I've not done that. I'll see what happens.
      Myna Maven: Good idea.
      Pila Mulligan: just ggogled it, but it is onr 'word picture' it seems
      Pila Mulligan: word cloud is it
      Pila Mulligan: http://www.wordle.net/
      Myna Maven: Right. Thanks. I hit it probably the same time you did.
      Pila Mulligan: making one now :)
      Myna Maven: So, am i
      Pila Mulligan: :)
      Pila Mulligan: hmm, it gets the names instead of the chat :)
      Myna Maven: Hmm, I would need to delete all names first as that's what
      Myna Maven: Yes...
      Myna Maven: You were noticing the same thing as was I. :)
      Pila Mulligan: looks like time and dutch are second to thenames
      Myna Maven: And Yes.
      Myna Maven: And Hi.
      Myna Maven: Hi is a big one.
      Myna Maven: :)
      Pila Mulligan: :) and bye
      Myna Maven: That too.
      Myna Maven: THink
      Myna Maven: Maybe
      Myna Maven: I think I'll pull out the names later and try this again.
      Myna Maven: It might be fun to try it on later chats as well.
      Myna Maven: Then compare them over a period of time.
      Pila Mulligan: I see you can clikc on a word in the picture and remove it
      Myna Maven: Oh!
      Pila Mulligan: cool
      Pila Mulligan: time and Dutch win
      Myna Maven: :)
      Pila Mulligan: well, a chat full of learning for me
      Myna Maven: Some interesting things I didn't know, as well.
      Pila Mulligan: see you next tme Myna :)
      Myna Maven: See ya. :) G"night.
      Pila Mulligan: bye bye
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