2009.02.28 19:00 - Exemplifying We Don't Get Set in Our Ways

The guardian for the meeting was Myna Maven.  The comments are Myna Maven's.

There  was some sort of bug that happened when claiming the chat this time.  I was delivered the chat at the end of the session but the page was empty.  I refreshed it several times but it was still empty.  So I copied the chat directly out of the chat log and hand removed time signatures etc.

The session meandered from this to that to the other, body space to temporal breadth to SL and time, William of Orange, Dutch vs. Hollandish, potato salad (which led to the origin of "salad days"), Thai curries and...well, you get the idea. 

Thus Pila suggested the use of a tag cloud.  After removing names and times I produced the above with a tag cloud generator.

Being we played and this is its record.  Rather than my further commenting, try looking above for an interesting word and searching on the page to see where it fit in. :)

By the way, I first accidentally put this entry under 2009.02.27 07:00 as a sub entry so had to repost it.  I deleted the other post and so there is a record of the deletion in the Wiki.

  Myna Maven: Hi Buddha.
  Myna Maven: I'm trying to claim the chat.
  buddha Nirvana: HI Myna :)
  Myna Maven: For some reason it's not showing up on my screen yet. :)
  buddha Nirvana: soeey, i dont know how to do that
  buddha Nirvana: sorry*
  buddha Nirvana: HI susi:)
  Myna Maven: I'm just befuddled.
  buddha Nirvana: hehe
  Myna Maven: Had no problem the last two weeks.
  buddha Nirvana: perhaps its lag
  Myna Maven: Hi Susi.
  Susi Alcott: hi buddha and Myna
  Myna Maven: I'm trying to claim the chat, Susi, but it's not showing up on
my screen.
  Susi Alcott: aha
  Myna Maven: Finally! Got it.
  Myna Maven: Hi, Pila.
  buddha Nirvana: HI Pila
  Susi Alcott: _/!\_
  Susi Alcott: hi Pila
  Pila Mulligan: hi Myna, buddha and Susi
  Pila Mulligan: hello Pema
  Myna Maven: Hi Pema.
  buddha Nirvana: HI pema
  Susi Alcott: hello Pema
  Pema Pera: Hi everyone! We're very spread out today :)
  Pila Mulligan: maybe we are prepared for additional arrivals :)
  Pema Pera: :-)
  Pema Pera: Hi Eliza!
  buddha Nirvana: HiEliza:)
  Susi Alcott: hi Eliza
  Eliza Madrigal: Hello :))
  Myna Maven: Ah, there's Eliza. Hi Eliza.
  Pila Mulligan: hi Eliza
  Eliza Madrigal: We're scattered around today :)
  Pila Mulligan: indeed :)
  Pema Pera: yes, I was surprised too
  Myna Maven: :)
  Pema Pera: we don't get set in our way, clearly!
  Pila Mulligan: 01] Pema Pera: Hi everyone! We're very spread out today :)
== great minds follow the same paths
  Eliza Madrigal: Clearly :)
  Eliza Madrigal: hah
  Pila Mulligan: :)
  Susi Alcott: maybe our ego has grown up so much that we need more space
around :)
  Eliza Madrigal: hahah collective ego...we're bouncing around in it?
  Pila Mulligan: or, as Daniel Boone said, elbow room
  Pema Pera: :)
  Susi Alcott: (made the lovline triangel after his arrival)
  Pila Mulligan: the studies of the sensory distinctions between urban and
rural dwellers can be interesting
  Pila Mulligan: urban dwellers are much more sensitive to object proximity
it seems
  Myna Maven: Hmm, I'm an urban dweller for decades. But spent childhood
years split between the city and the desert.
  Susi Alcott: (then the other one appeared when Pila and Pema arrived)
  Susi Alcott: (then nice Lady sat beside him :) )
  Susi Alcott: _/!\_
  Eliza Madrigal: Am I throwing off the pattern? :)
  Pila Mulligan: :)
  buddha Nirvana: Did you bump into any shaman Myna?
  Susi Alcott: no; adding to it ?
  Eliza Madrigal: :)
  Myna Maven: In the desert?
  Pema Pera: :-)
  buddha Nirvana: yes
  Myna Maven: No.
  Pema Pera: haha
  Myna Maven: Just me and the desert and the snakes and the coyotes and the
plutonium.
  buddha Nirvana: :)
  Pila Mulligan: sounds toxic
  Myna Maven: Up near Hanford.
  Pila Mulligan: in part
  Pila Mulligan: ahh
  Pila Mulligan: the nuke
  buddha Nirvana: perhaps they were occupying the astral realms
  Myna Maven: My father worked there.
  Myna Maven: But the desert is certainly an environment that invites
contemplation.
  Pila Mulligan: so it has been said
  Eliza Madrigal: I would think so...vast
  Eliza Madrigal: You were there as a young child, or older, Myna?
  Eliza Madrigal: Not sure why I ask...
  Myna Maven: We moved away when I was ten.
  Eliza Madrigal: Ah...so a large part of your childhood then
  Pila Mulligan: the Hanford Nuclear Reservation is the largest nuclear
waste dump in the Western Hemisphere
  Myna Maven: Yes, Eliza.
  Myna Maven: And Yes Pila.
  Pema Pera: Hi Adelene and Threedee!
  Pila Mulligan: hi Ade and Threedee
  Adelene Dawner: Hi All ^.^
  Susi Alcott: hi Ade and 3D
  Myna Maven: Hello Adelene, Three.
  Eliza Madrigal: :) Threedee, Adelene, Hi
  Pila Mulligan: purrrrrr
  Eliza Madrigal: :)
  Susi Alcott: _/!\_
  buddha Nirvana: Hi ya adelene:)
  Threedee Shepherd: hiya, there is wireless where I am. A bit slow,but
adequate
  Adelene Dawner: Hi, Buddha ^.^
  Squee: What have I always believed?
  Pila Mulligan: welcome to the slow wireless club 3D
  buddha Nirvana: Hi threedee :
  Eliza Madrigal: A delay can add breath to a conversation, right ? :)
  Pema Pera: :-)
  Pila Mulligan: the soul thrives in stillness :)
  Pema Pera: as opposed to being all wired up!
  Eliza Madrigal: :)
  Myna Maven: :)
  Pema Pera: wireless . . . off the leash?
  Threedee Shepherd: or temporal breadth, as the case may be ;>
  Pila Mulligan: :)
  Pila Mulligan: 'temporal breadth' ... since techological metaphors are
popular, 3D, I wonder if different moments of time can have different
bandwidths? so to speak ...
  Threedee Shepherd: I am reading the book "coming of age in SL" he makes
the point that the ability to be in open chat and multiple IMs at the same
time is unique
  Pila Mulligan: a new human skill?
  Eliza Madrigal: I find it difficult still...
  Susi Alcott: _/!\_ > if different moments of time can have different
bandwidths? so to speak ...
  Pema Pera: What I found more difficult to learn was to use chat and voice
at the same time
  Pema Pera: but by now I am quite used to that too
  Susi Alcott: _/!\_
  Eliza Madrigal: Not ready to think about that one... :)
  Eliza Madrigal: hah
  Pema Pera: in our astronomy meetings we frequently mix voice and text,
and then of course there are the IMs coming in (for me some of them in
Japanese, so I have to switch fonts frequently)
  Adelene Dawner: That's no surprise, Pem - text and voice use two
different parts of the brain - it's not common to be used to juggling those
two. (Yet? ^.^)
  Susi Alcott: 'back then' some could have several phones online at the
same time
  Eliza Madrigal: I suppose this does take multitasking to a new
level..need more compartments
  Myna Maven: Hi, Stim.
  Eliza Madrigal: Hello Stim
  Pila Mulligan: hi Stim
  Threedee Shepherd: hi
  Adelene Dawner: Hi Stim
  Susi Alcott: hi Stim
  Stim Morane: Hi all!
  Pema Pera: hi there Stim!
  buddha Nirvana: hi stim:)
  Eliza Madrigal: Maybe dealing with diff. people and diff. subjects are
diff. kinds of time also...different paces..all at once
  Threedee Shepherd: A point about simultaneous chat and IM is that you can
be participating in the same conversation topic at entirely different
levels
  Eliza Madrigal: :)
  Pema Pera: yes, I've had that happen, Three
  Threedee Shepherd: In terms of thought that kind of parallel processing
is close to how the brain actually works
  Pila Mulligan: body language is missing in SL, maybe IM helps fill that
void
  Pila Mulligan: not with the same information, just as filling a vacant
space :)
  Susi Alcott: there's also many animations to be much body language :)
  Eliza Madrigal: Would make sense. In day to day life, I've been trying to
notice when I am multitasking to an extreme and slow it down
  Threedee Shepherd: The lack of body language--much of which is not
intentional--makes the use of words more potent, I think.
  Eliza Madrigal: But here is required in order to flow even slightely
naturally
  Adelene Dawner nods at Three.
  Eliza Madrigal: yes, agree Three
  Squee: There are only two ways to live your life. One is as though
nothing is a miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracle.
  Threedee Shepherd: Actuallu Squee, One way I say that is that "because
nothing matters, everything matters"
  Squee knows several variations on that theme. ^.^
  buddha Nirvana: A nice piece of music is a miracle to me
  Pila Mulligan: 3D, your term 'temporal breadth' could also apply to a
meditative phenomenon of widening mind moments
  Threedee Shepherd: mmhmm
  buddha Nirvana: i think that came to mind as i'm listening to a lovely
piece of music
  Eliza Madrigal: What is it buddha?
  Myna Maven: "I am spread across the universe!" I hear behind me (my
husband and son playing). That would be a widening mind moment.
  Eliza Madrigal: :D
  Threedee Shepherd: However, widening mind moments does not affect real
time as measured by a clock, unfortunately.
  Pila Mulligan: :)
  buddha Nirvana: It;s Satie's Gnossienne 1-8
  buddha Nirvana: Ver nice
  Susi Alcott: _/!\_
  Pila Mulligan: that old sun just keeps its pace
  buddha Nirvana: 4-8
  Susi Alcott: 'stairway to heaven' started to sing inside me
  Myna Maven: Satie is nice.
  Pila Mulligan: going 'round and 'round the earth :)
  Threedee Shepherd: SL is interesting in that it is spatially unbounded,
but cannot change the pace of real time
  Susi Alcott: or give 'new' time
  Threedee Shepherd: mmhmm
  Susi Alcott: timeless one
  Pema Pera: though it often feels that in one week in SL more happens than
in two months in RL . . . .
  Susi Alcott: or in two years :)
  Pila Mulligan: it does, indeed, Pema
  Threedee Shepherd: it is rare to sit with 5-10 people hours at a time
throughout the week in RL.
  Pila Mulligan: maybe the absence of the need for physical organiztion and
travel is a factor
  Pema Pera: oh yes, so the time saved is travel time -- a real time warp
there, even though time itself doesn't flow differently during meetings
  Susi Alcott: having im with sombody who's belived one has stepped
foreward, with an other who invites to the wedding and few other for
somebody's other kind of special moment ..:)
  Threedee Shepherd: Well, here you can be "listening" participating and
alsodo a RL task, and no one is offended by thinking you are being rude
  Susi Alcott: need to go again
  Pila Mulligan: bye Susi
  Myna Maven: Bye Susi.
  buddha Nirvana: Bue susi :)
  Eliza Madrigal: Bye, Susi :)
  Pema Pera: bye Susi!
  Susi Alcott: _/!\_
  Stim Morane: bye Susi!
  Threedee Shepherd: bye
  Pila Mulligan: SL has a culutre then, with its own time, manners, etc.
  Pila Mulligan: culture*
  Myna Maven: Certainly.
  Pema Pera: absolutely
  Adelene Dawner nods.
  Pema Pera: that's why there is no manual . . . .
  Adelene Dawner: And hte internet at large has one, too.
  Pema Pera: getting into SL is like immigrating
  Myna Maven: I'm still becoming familiar with SL culture.
  buddha Nirvana: and lots of sub cultures it hink too
  buddha Nirvana: think*
  Adelene Dawner nods at Buddha
  buddha Nirvana: anyone seen anything particularly shocking in SL?
  Pila Mulligan: :)
  Adelene Dawner: We got griefed last night, here ^.^ That was pretty
shocking.
  Adelene Dawner took pix, one sec ^.^
  Pema Pera: really?
  buddha Nirvana: Hi pato:)
  Myna Maven: Hello Pato.
  Pila Mulligan: selcome ot SL Pato
  Pato Sparta: hi
  Pila Mulligan: welcome to*
  Adelene Dawner: Yep, someone was throwing giant purple cubes all over the
landscape.
  Eliza Madrigal: Pato, hello :)
  Threedee Shepherd: lots of sex and violence if you look for it
  Pema Pera: Hi Pato
  Eliza Madrigal: I've not seen much that has shocked me...but then I stay
close :)
  buddha Nirvana: I once typed in china to the place search...came upon a
dungeon with women hanging naked to earn Lindens...
  buddha Nirvana: That was fairly shocking
  Pila Mulligan: someone's fanatsy run amok
  buddha Nirvana: dont recall china ever being like that
  Adelene Dawner gave you Snapshot : Play as Being Pavilion, Bieup (64, 36,
103).
  Threedee Shepherd: if it id virtual, why is it shocking?
  buddha Nirvana: ah, maybe i was'nt expecting it
  Threedee Shepherd: I mean that as a serious question
  Eliza Madrigal: That IS a good question Threeo
  Pema Pera: (was it not an art exhibit, Adelene, that picture :-)
  buddha Nirvana: i suppose if you spend any deal of time online, you
become sensative to the 'sub cultures
  buddha Nirvana: Ty adelene
  Adelene Dawner: An involuntary one on our part, if so, Pem ^.^
  Eliza Madrigal: It is all very interesting... Very pleasant people can
pull themselves together in the most antagonistic ways...
  Eliza Madrigal: Yikes Adelene
  buddha Nirvana: someones mind explodes
  buddha Nirvana: exploded in a sim*
  Adelene Dawner: And we were on the outskirts. I went flying while it was
happening - found a shopping center north of here completely burried.
  Threedee Shepherd: I firmly believe that in RL, there is nothing human
beings can do that has not been tried--which may be disturbing. SL just
opens the possibilities, the proclivity remains
  Eliza Madrigal: ...though it is reminiscent of the pink Christo used
around the islands in Miami years ago
  Myna Maven: WHat?
  Myna Maven: A shopping center completely buried?
  Adelene Dawner: Yep.
  buddha Nirvana: literally?
  Pema Pera: yes, Eliza, that's what came to mind for me too :)
  Adelene Dawner gave you Snapshot : This is going to be new Welcome ,
Gukyeol (7, 77, 15.
  Eliza Madrigal: I remember driving to see them...was a moment for sure
  Eliza Madrigal: Ack! Adelene....does it take forever to remove these
things?
  Pema Pera: We had orange outfits in Central Park a few years ago, here in
Manhattan, by Christo
  Squee: Say yes to the things that will make you happy.
  Eliza Madrigal: The curtains?
  Adelene Dawner: Nope, Udge came and cleaned them up for us, took less
than a minute once he got here. ^.^
  Eliza Madrigal: Ah...
  Pema Pera: yes, curtains
  Pema Pera: quite pretty, actually (in Central Park, that is)
  Eliza Madrigal: Some people were annoyed, I remember, but I would have
liked to have gone
  Myna Maven: Oh, I remember reading about those curtains, yes.
  Pema Pera: I live three minutes walking away from where the curtains
started
  Myna Maven: They looked pretty cool in pictures.
  Pema Pera: I happened to wear orange shoes, by complete coincidence --
many people pointed and smiled, commending me for my coordination :)
  Eliza Madrigal: Big Bursts of color...such an impression it makes on the
imagination
  Myna Maven: :)
  Pila Mulligan: kind of like a Buddhist St Patty's Day
  Myna Maven: Ha!
  Eliza Madrigal: haha. Hmm.....wondering what wardrobe is composed of that
orange shoes first thing to grab :)
  Pema Pera: (alas, no New York Times photographer in sight)
  Threedee Shepherd: attacking a park with curtains beats carpet bombing
any day
Pema Pera: Well, orange is the Dutch national color (I'm from Holland)
Eliza Madrigal: Just got that Pila!
Pila Mulligan: oh, of course :0
Pila Mulligan: forgot
Pila Mulligan: the Orange family
Eliza Madrigal: Ah....
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Pema Pera: "William of Orange" came from Holland, yes
Pema Pera: Too bad what they did with it in Northern Ireland . . . .
Threedee Shepherd: Pema, if people are from Holland, why are they Dutch
rather than--say--Hollandish
Pila Mulligan: lost me there Pema, what did they do?
  Pema Pera: because the English confuse Germans and Hollanders, Threedee
  Pema Pera: Look, it's your language not mine :-)
  buddha Nirvana: i know the difference, but thats only because i like
football
  Pema Pera: Oh, the Orange name in Northern Ireland being associated with
the fanatic Protestants, Pila
  Pila Mulligan: ok, thanks
  Threedee Shepherd: Where did Nethelands enter the picture?
  Stim Morane: Time to go ... thanks, everyone!
  Pila Mulligan: bye Stim
  Pema Pera: Bye Stim
  Myna Maven: Bye Stim.
  Eliza Madrigal: Bye Stim
  Threedee Shepherd: bye
  buddha Nirvana: go well, stim
  Adelene Dawner: cya, Stim :)
  Pema Pera: William of Orange, Threedee
  Pema Pera: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orange_Institution
  Eliza Madrigal: Ah, better page than what I was on :)
  Pema Pera: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_III_of_England
  Pila Mulligan: "he main leader of the Dutch revolt against the Spanish
that set off the Eighty Years' War and resulted in the formal independence
of the United Provinces in 1648"
  Pema Pera: you see, how a spam attack can lead to a useful lesson about
the influence of Holland on the world !
  Pema Pera: that's a different one, Pila :)
  Pila Mulligan: oh, well getting qa hotory esson here :)
  Pila Mulligan: thanks :)
  Pema Pera: having set those records straight, time to get some sleep for
me
  Pema Pera: good seeing y'all
  Myna Maven: Bye Pema.
  Eliza Madrigal: Night, pema
  Pila Mulligan: bye Pema
  buddha Nirvana: nite Pema:)
  Adelene Dawner: 'night, Pem.
  Pema Pera: bye everyone!
  Threedee Shepherd: bye
  Threedee Shepherd: goodnight all
  Myna Maven: G'nite Three.
  Adelene Dawner: 'night, Luv.
  Eliza Madrigal: Night, Threedee
  buddha Nirvana: Nite Threedee:, go wel
  Pila Mulligan: bye Threedee
  Eliza Madrigal: I slept most of the day but think it will be easy to
sleep another 7 hrs or so....strange
  Myna Maven: Perhaps you are needing it.
  Pila Mulligan: :)
  buddha Nirvana: sure, i never tire of sleep
  Pila Mulligan: so I was still curious about the term 'Dutch' -- here's a
wiki quote ...
  Pila Mulligan: The English word Dutch derives from the Low German Dütsch
or Düütsch, which shares a common etymology with German Deutsch—in both
cases, an adjective formed by adding the suffix -sch to the noun Deut
("Teut", as in Teuton and Teutonic), which means "human being". In effect,
Dutch/Dütsch/Deutsch ultimately means "of human beings" or "of the people".
In actual use, the term came to refer to all the peoples associated with
the Holy Roman Empire, which included the Netherlands—especially those who
spoke Germanic languages. Consequently, and for several centuries, the term
"Dutch" was used to indicate people and things who were Dutch, Flemish,
Frisian, Saxon, Westphalian, Hanoverian, Hamburger, Luxemburger, Limburger,
and so on. In short, the term referred to all continental Germanic groups.
For the most part, the American use of Dutch to mean "German" disappeared
in the years following World War II, but certain terms have become classic
and are still in use, such as "Dutch potato salad" and "Dutch
  Adelene Dawner: Interesting.
  Pila Mulligan: yes, never understood the term before
  buddha Nirvana: patato saladm reminds me - have you tried the hot salad
since the alst time :)
  Pila Mulligan: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch
  Pila Mulligan: no, once was a fun start
  Eliza Madrigal: Neither had I, certainly
  buddha Nirvana: :))
  Pila Mulligan: warm potato salad would be nice
  Myna Maven: I hadn't realized it referred to all peoples of the Holy
Roman Empire.
  buddha Nirvana: for sure, sounds good
  Pila Mulligan: yes, Myna -- new to e also
  buddha Nirvana: infact i think i may have had that before
Eliza Madrigal: You would think it would come up more often ..
Pila Mulligan: there seems to be a window of things like that (use of a
term, or use of a salad)
  Pila Mulligan: it exists for a while, then it doesn't
  Myna Maven: Salad days. :)
  Pila Mulligan: :)
  Eliza Madrigal: :)
  Eliza Madrigal: I've no problems with hot potato anything.... hah
  Pila Mulligan: there's a local Tahi curry with potatoes in it, served on
rice -- seems like it owuld be too starchy, but it is yummy
  buddha Nirvana: i like that term 'salad days', anyone know its origin?
  Eliza Madrigal: MMMM!
  Pila Mulligan: ... to Wiki :)
  buddha Nirvana: hehe:)
  Myna Maven: Off to Wiki! :)
  Eliza Madrigal: A friend and I are having a "curry party" soon...inviting
everyone to make their own and bring it
  Pila Mulligan: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salad_days
  Pila Mulligan: The phrase was coined in Shakespeare's Antony and
Cleopatra in 1606. In the speech at the end of Act One in which Cleopatra
is regretting her youthful dalliances with Julius Caesar she sayss
 "...My salad days, / When I was green in judgment, cold in blood..."
  buddha Nirvana: Perhaps when 'things were good' - growing, fertilised
  buddha Nirvana: no idea
  Eliza Madrigal: Oh that's great
  Myna Maven: Ha! That's great.
  Myna Maven: Green in judgment.
  Myna Maven: Cold in blood.
  Myna Maven: Love it.
  buddha Nirvana: ah, v nice:)
  buddha Nirvana: i must try and conceal and use that line in a poem
  Pila Mulligan: http://bebopvegan.blogspot.com/2007/11/curry-tofu-and-
potatoes.html
  Adelene Dawner yawns... time to go, folks. See you next time. :)
  buddha Nirvana: NIte adelene:)
  Pila Mulligan: bye Ade
  Myna Maven: Bye Adelene.
  Eliza Madrigal: Night, Adelene
  Pila Mulligan: actually this one is closer
http://charchechaukeke.wordpress.com/2008/01/09/quick-thai-yellow-curry/
  buddha Nirvana: Nite folks :)
  Pila Mulligan: bye buddha
  Myna Maven: Bye Buddha.
  Eliza Madrigal: Would like a way to save this link to desktop, but will
just have to c/p I suppose
  Eliza Madrigal: Night Buddha
  Pila Mulligan: the first one used mashed potatoes, the second one is like
the one they have here
  Myna Maven: No, no, not mashed potatoes. I don't think I'd like that.
  Pila Mulligan: not with rice :)
  Eliza Madrigal: yeah...not so much
  Pila Mulligan: the tofu chunks and potato chunks are about the same size
and texture, blended in the thick yellow curry
  Myna Maven: That sounds good.
  Pila Mulligan: it is :)
  Eliza Madrigal: I'm going to try this....
  Eliza Madrigal: Once had a curry with terrific nuts of some sort cooked
in...was fantastic..
  Eliza Madrigal: but I should have asked what they were
  Pila Mulligan: peanut is common as a flaovr in thai food
  Pila Mulligan: maybe it was peanuts
  Eliza Madrigal: These were small...do you think pine nuts?
  Eliza Madrigal: Is that common at all
  Pila Mulligan: could be
  Myna Maven: We don't eat Thai that frequently. So I wouldn't know.
  Pila Mulligan: haven't heard of it in curry myself, but it could well be
  Eliza Madrigal: They would have been seasoned before hand...had distinct
sort of taste. Hm...might try that with this.
  Pila Mulligan: :)
  Eliza Madrigal: Okay....bed time again. Until recently it wasn't thought
that you COULD catch up on sleep, but now they say otherwise
  Myna Maven: Really, Eliza?
  Myna Maven: i didn't know that.
  Myna Maven: I'll have to tell my body that.
  Eliza Madrigal: An article came out a few years ago...
  Pila Mulligan: well, have a good catch-up rest :)
  Myna Maven: :) Yes. G'night.
  Eliza Madrigal: And yes, you should! Give yourself permission :)
  Eliza Madrigal: Night
  Myna Maven: Do meandering sorts of chats go up on the chat log? I have
seen instances where chats were left out that were not so PaB specific?
  Pila Mulligan: I'm not sure, Myna -- I am not tech savvy, so I have been
shy about doing (or even laerning) about the logs and such
  Myna Maven: Oh, OK.
  Pila Mulligan: seems to me it is what it is, so why not poat it :)
  Pila Mulligan: post*
  Myna Maven: :)
  Myna Maven: I will do.
  Myna Maven: What should the title be!
  Pila Mulligan: Pema asked me to do some time slots and to be honest one
part of not takng him up was the tech challenge :)
  Myna Maven: We covered potatos and Dutch and...
  Pila Mulligan: Dutch was interesting
  Myna Maven: Temporal breadth
  Pila Mulligan: earlier: seating, time, ... :)
  Myna Maven: Can we make up a title out of potates, Dutch and Temporal
breadth?
  Myna Maven: Oh, yes, the being spread out.
  Pila Mulligan: Sl culture
  Myna Maven: Buried shopping centers.
  Pila Mulligan: :)
  Pila Mulligan: this was a meandering one :)
  Pila Mulligan: Multitaksing?
  Myna Maven: That too.
  Pila Mulligan: well, it is an artistic challeneg for you as Guardian then
:)
  Myna Maven: Thanks.
  Myna Maven: :)
  Pila Mulligan: :) those word pictures they make are fun
  Pila Mulligan: on Wikis
  Myna Maven: Oh, yes, those.
  Myna Maven: Blogs too.
  Myna Maven: Weighted.
  Pila Mulligan: maybe you can plug the text into a word piucture maker and
see what emerges
  Myna Maven: I've not done that. I'll see what happens.
  Myna Maven: Good idea.
  Pila Mulligan: just ggogled it, but it is onr 'word picture' it seems
  Pila Mulligan: word cloud is it
  Pila Mulligan: http://www.wordle.net/
  Myna Maven: Right. Thanks. I hit it probably the same time you did.
  Pila Mulligan: making one now :)
  Myna Maven: So, am i
  Pila Mulligan: :)
  Pila Mulligan: hmm, it gets the names instead of the chat :)
  Myna Maven: Hmm, I would need to delete all names first as that's what
  Myna Maven: Yes...
  Myna Maven: You were noticing the same thing as was I. :)
  Pila Mulligan: looks like time and dutch are second to thenames
  Myna Maven: And Yes.
  Myna Maven: And Hi.
  Myna Maven: Hi is a big one.
  Myna Maven: :)
  Pila Mulligan: :) and bye
  Myna Maven: That too.
  Myna Maven: THink
  Myna Maven: Maybe
  Myna Maven: I think I'll pull out the names later and try this again.
  Myna Maven: It might be fun to try it on later chats as well.
  Myna Maven: Then compare them over a period of time.
  Pila Mulligan: I see you can clikc on a word in the picture and remove it
  Myna Maven: Oh!
  Pila Mulligan: cool
  Pila Mulligan: time and Dutch win
  Myna Maven: :)
  Pila Mulligan: well, a chat full of learning for me
  Myna Maven: Some interesting things I didn't know, as well.
  Pila Mulligan: see you next tme Myna :)
  Myna Maven: See ya. :) G"night.
  Pila Mulligan: bye bye