2008.09.15 01:00 - Fairies & butterflies

Gaya was the guardian on call for this session. Please add comments if willing.

Gaya Ethaniel: Hey Faenik. Did you sleep well?
Gaya Ethaniel: Seems that no one's coming this morning... looks like we are stuck with each other again.
Faenik pouts
Gaya Ethaniel smiles
Faenik: ah :)
Gaya Ethaniel: You know... I do have something to share if you're interested in...
Faenik wonders if he has a choice in the matter
Gaya Ethaniel pouts
Faenik: alright, shoot
Gaya Ethaniel smiles
Gaya Ethaniel: During my reflection of this morning, I've met my old old friend. Was rather surprised and somewhat discomforted by meeting this friend but... decided to welcome him.
Gaya Ethaniel: He's called... 'It shouldn't be this way'
Faenik loves wells!
Gaya Ethaniel: I was annoyed by having this friend around again...
Faenik: what brought this 'friend' back?
Gaya Ethaniel: mm...
Gaya Ethaniel: Well... there is this person I have to deal with often and I don't seem to accept him as he is, incl his failings because I 'think' "he should know better".
Faenik: uh huh
Gaya Ethaniel: Well... the most difficult thing among his failings that I need to accept is he fails to practise what he preaches
Gaya Ethaniel: Because "he should know better" = "he shouldn't be this way"
Gaya Ethaniel sighs
Faenik is amused
Gaya Ethaniel: I know...
Gaya Ethaniel: I was talking to my best friend about this last night and it seems that I failed to see something rather crucial
Gaya Ethaniel: Not practising what one preaches is a fairly common failing... and I do the same often for sure
Faenik so...?
Gaya Ethaniel: So... the difference is that I had a fixed idea about how this person 'should' behave...

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Gaya Ethaniel: _/!\_
Faenik: Hi Fael ^^
Fael Illyar tries to figure out who Gaya is talking to.
Gaya Ethaniel: One moment, will give you a log
Fael Illyar points at the line you said when she teleported in.
Faenik: ah :)
Fael Illyar: Oh, Faenik :)
Gaya Ethaniel nods
Gaya Ethaniel: Faenik... is not easy to talk to
Fael Illyar: I realized in the shower today that I was thinking myself less than others but not accepting that I thought so.
Faenik is relieved to see someone else at the pavilion... Gaya is... you know
Gaya Ethaniel: Care to say more?
Fael Illyar ponders what more there is.
Fael Illyar: Faenik, you don't like Gaya?
Faenik: well... what kind of question is that Fael?
Fael Illyar: Well, that's the feeling I kind of saw in your comment ...
Faenik: tough love Fael tough love
Fael Illyar: Oh
Gaya Ethaniel smiles and gently leans her head on Faenik
Fael Illyar: Then I can understand it :)
Faenik: ^^
Fael Illyar: but yes, I could hear it in you last night.
Faenik: did you?
Fael Illyar: I heard it but ...
Fael Illyar ponders. Did she accept or ignore it...
Fael Illyar: ... oh, accept
Faenik: ah :)
Fael Illyar: so ... why is this dummy not doing the same with herself?
Gaya Ethaniel looks down
Fael Illyar: (that was addressed to both of us)
Faenik loves wells!
Fael Illyar: we're both failing to do what we preach :)
Gaya Ethaniel nods
Fael Illyar: Stargate called this the Final Moon-card for me.
Fael Illyar: (as in tarot, Moon symbolizes a final battle with yourself)
Faenik: ah :)
Gaya Ethaniel listens

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A fairy visitor: may i sit here
Gaya Ethaniel: _/!\_
Gaya Ethaniel: Welcome Visitor
Fael Illyar: sure, welcome :)
A fairy visitor: thank you
Fael Illyar: Oh, nice AV :)
Fael Illyar: looks lovely :)
A fairy visitor: thank you very much
Gaya Ethaniel: I'm the guardian on call at 1:00 SLT today for Play as Being group. Have you been here before Visitor? Would you like a brief introduction?
Faenik: indeed?
A fairy visitor: no, i havent been before
A fairy visitor: i would like an intro please, yes
Gaya Ethaniel: Let me give you a link that has some information about the group. Essentially it is an open group discussion and everyone is welcome to join us.
A fairy visitor: okay
Gaya Ethaniel: http://playasbeing.wik.is/
Gaya Ethaniel: Please let us know if you have questions
A fairy visitor: ok, thank you
Gaya Ethaniel: Pleasure
A fairy visitor: i was just looking for somewhere just to relax when i found it
A fairy visitor: just needed some time out
Gaya Ethaniel smiles. You are welcome to sit with us too.
Fael Illyar: There are nice places around here you can use to just relax too :)
A fairy visitor: okay :)
Gaya Ethaniel: I used to sit by the tea house on this sim. It's beautiful here...
Fael Illyar: yes, very beautiful :)
Fael Illyar ponders about her sudden urge to talk about Amaterasu.
Gaya Ethaniel: O.o

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A fairy visitor: ok i feel really silly but im totally confused
Gaya Ethaniel: How so Visitor?
A fairy visitor: i dont understand what the meetings are about or what it is the group does?
Fael Illyar: It's sort of a test for a new type of meditation.
A fairy visitor: oh okay
A fairy visitor: so you just sit here and meditate?
Fael Illyar: the discussion is meant for participants talking about their experiences.
A fairy visitor: experiences of meditation?
Faenik loves wells!
Fael Illyar: discussion about things related to that ... well, offtopic happens a lot as well :)
Gaya Ethaniel nods
A fairy visitor: i wouldnt have much to contribute then
Gaya Ethaniel: This morning before you joined I was talking about how I don't practise what I preach
Fael Illyar: You'd be surprised :)
A fairy visitor: i havent ever meditated in rl
Fael Illyar: that would be more than perfect :)
A fairy visitor: never sat still long enough or wanted to be still and thinking for too long
Gaya Ethaniel: I saw this failing in myself during one of my reflections. My reflections come from traditional buddhist meditations as well as Play as Being exercises
A fairy visitor: for various reasons
Gaya Ethaniel: ah ok
Fael Illyar: but the meditation we do here is a bit unusual.
A fairy visitor: tryin to learn just to 'be' tho
Gaya Ethaniel smiles
Fael Illyar: it's, in short, 9 second pause every 15 minutes or so.
A fairy visitor: its hard
A fairy visitor: okay
Fael Illyar: Yes, 9 second pause during which you just Be :)
A fairy visitor: and you discuss in between
Gaya Ethaniel: I use a free programme that rings a bell every 15 mins so that I can stop and pause
Fael Illyar: I do those pauses all day.
A fairy visitor: wow
A fairy visitor: allll day?!
Gaya Ethaniel nods
A fairy visitor: weeeesh
Fael Illyar: every 15 minutes and sometimes a bit more often too
A fairy visitor: thats immense
Gaya Ethaniel: http://www.mindfulnessdc.org/mindfulclock.html
A fairy visitor: im in ***  in rl
Fael Illyar has a bell ringing to remind her of it.
Gaya Ethaniel: One starts with a few pauses and it can widen to longer period Visitor
Gaya Ethaniel has an internal bell too

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A fairy visitor: what do you do in the pauses?
Gaya Ethaniel: Just 'be'
Fael Illyar: just Be :)
A fairy visitor: :)
Gaya Ethaniel: meta-snap <smile>
A fairy visitor: i so need to learn that
A fairy visitor: *sigh*
Fael Illyar: helps you be closer to just being :)
Fael Illyar: all the time
A fairy visitor: can i ask somethin without feeling rude? or ignorant...
Fael Illyar: sure, go ahead
Gaya Ethaniel: Sure
A fairy visitor: is it related to buddhism?
A fairy visitor: i dont have a 'religion'
Fael Illyar doesn't have a 'religion' either.
Gaya Ethaniel: Some of us are Buddhists but this group is not a 'religious' one per se
A fairy visitor: okay
Gaya Ethaniel: Some of our regulars are interested in science and others spiritual aspects of life
Gaya Ethaniel: All sorts <smile>
A fairy visitor: i dont know much about Buddhism, only that ive always been against christianity and so ive never goten into *any* 'religion'
Faenik: why not?
Gaya Ethaniel pokes Faenik...
Faenik giggles. that tickles.
A fairy visitor: i dont like the idea of a made up person
A fairy visitor: someone saying you have to believe a 'god' is doing this that n the other
Fael Illyar: That sounds a lot like how I was and to some extent still am.
Gaya Ethaniel: I can understand that Visitor
A fairy visitor: i dont mean that in a rude way
Gaya Ethaniel: No need to do what one is not comfortable...
A fairy visitor: is buddhism the same in that way?
A fairy visitor: ive never looked into it
A fairy visitor: isnt the 'Buddha' a 'real' person?
A fairy visitor: or was
Gaya Ethaniel: Some of buddhists do 'worship' deities yes but there are many different traditions
Fael Illyar: The point of view in Christianity is to tell you "things are like this". The point of view in Buddhism is "you can find it all within yourself".
Gaya Ethaniel: Buddha literally means 'enlightened being' and the Buddha is a historical person, an Indian prince
A fairy visitor: yeh i hate that about christianity
A fairy visitor: "you can find it all within yourself".... thats beautiful :)
Gaya Ethaniel: Things are like this... is that really what Christianity does? Somewhat disagree...
A fairy visitor: so he was actually real. not a 'god' sitting in a made up cloud because someone thought it sounded good lol
Gaya Ethaniel: THE Buddha people often refer to is a historical person yes
A fairy visitor: sigh
A fairy visitor: and he meditated etc, is that where is comes from?
Fael Illyar: That's sort of similar in all flavours of Buddhism but Zen Buddhism is closest to that. I asked someone how to start and the answer was "Just meditate, you'll find it all within yourself".
A fairy visitor: or is that about learning about your 'inner self'
A fairy visitor: wow
Fael Illyar: I found that an interesting enough answer that I tried it out :)
A fairy visitor: yeh
A fairy visitor: *smiles*
Fael Illyar: I'm happy I did :)
A fairy visitor: im sorry for what im wearing lol
A fairy visitor: i probably stand out a little
Gaya Ethaniel: He found his own ways and he recommends everyone to do the same, not following his teachings blindly.
Fael Illyar: no problem there :) I stand out too ;)
Gaya Ethaniel likes Visitor's wings
A fairy visitor: yeh i love fairies/butterflies in rl
A fairy visitor: i want to come back as a butterfly in my next life
Fael Illyar likes them too.
Gaya Ethaniel smiles
A fairy visitor: (im really quite serious about that but ppl always think im joking)
Fael Illyar: why not, it's just a few days :)
Gaya Ethaniel smiles
A fairy visitor: a few days?
Faenik is a hairy black ball with eyes and ears.
Fael Illyar: butterflies don't live very long
Gaya Ethaniel: (from our point of view)
Fael Illyar: Yes, of course :)
A fairy visitor: why from your point of view?
A fairy visitor: do you mind if i ask that?
A fairy visitor: i want to be one forever
Fael Illyar: butterfly's point of view is different, naturally :)
Gaya Ethaniel: Human defines 'days' that is irrelevant to butterflies
A fairy visitor: yeh
A fairy visitor: i spose i concept of time is different
A fairy visitor: i still want to be one tho
Gaya Ethaniel smiles
A fairy visitor: i dont believe in a 'heaven'
A fairy visitor: just know that ill come back again as something
A fairy visitor: wow
Faenik: could be
Fael Illyar: you can find all kinds of avatars here :)
A fairy visitor: yeh
A fairy visitor: very cool lol
Fael Illyar: thank you :)
Fael Illyar: this one was quite close to a freebie, really :)
A fairy visitor: thats good
A fairy visitor: there are some fun things around
Gaya Ethaniel smiles
Fael Illyar: there are better ones around too I think
Fael Illyar: I could drop you a landmark to the place this one is from if you want
A fairy visitor: ok
A fairy visitor: thank you

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Gaya Ethaniel: Visitor, we record discussion on the wiki. Do you mind us adding your name and comments on the site?
A fairy visitor: what, things i say in the future you mean?
Faenik loves wells!
Gaya Ethaniel: I mean during this session. Allow me to give you an example. http://playasbeing.wik.is/Chat_Logs/...tions_(or_not)
A fairy visitor: there isnt any text there
A fairy visitor: id rather not have anything i said today, i feel silly
Gaya Ethaniel: You can click any of the session under here http://playasbeing.wik.is/Chat_Logs/2008/09
Gaya Ethaniel: No problem, thank you
A fairy visitor: oh you copy in the whole convo
Fael Illyar: whole convo?
A fairy visitor: the discussion here
A fairy visitor: you copy it in
Fael Illyar: Yes, we keep logs on the wiki for our meetings here :)
A fairy visitor: well i dont mind in the future
Fael Illyar: but we do make sure everyone agrees to it before we do so.
A fairy visitor: okay
Fael Illyar: is it ok if we just change your name or do we leave out what you said as well?
A fairy visitor: you may change my name if you want
A fairy visitor: i just feel silly being so cluless
Fael Illyar: nothing silly about that :)
Gaya Ethaniel: Ah well, if you read my earlier session when I first came to the group... <blush>
Fael Illyar: we're all new at some things before we find out more :)
A fairy visitor: yeh :)
Gaya Ethaniel: Well still talk 'silly' at times. We do that here a lot for fun - as in play in play as being
A fairy visitor: what does 'play as being' mean tho? i get the 'being' bit, thats what i want to learn to do
Fael Illyar: We've meetings here 4 times each day. 1am, 7am, 1pm, 7pm SL Time. I hope to see you again :)
A fairy visitor: do i have to do something to join?
Gaya Ethaniel looks up wiki for an good excerpt on 'being'
Fael Illyar: no, just coming to the meetings is enough :)
Fael Illyar: they're held right here :)
Fael Illyar: (this is one of them)
Gaya Ethaniel: http://playasbeing.wik.is/PaB_log_ex..._Play_as_Being
Fael Illyar: 1am ones tend to be a bit less populated though.
A fairy visitor: i got here just in time

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A fairy visitor: where are you both in rl?
Gaya Ethaniel: ***
Fael Illyar is located in ***
A fairy visitor: im in the ***
A fairy visitor: im *** yrs old
Gaya Ethaniel smiles
Fael Illyar: ***
Gaya Ethaniel.: mm... old... enough
A fairy visitor: hehe
Gaya Ethaniel smiles
A fairy visitor: well ill let you get on
Fael Illyar: Ok, hope to see you here again :)
Gaya Ethaniel: See you soon again I hope Visitor
A fairy visitor: maybe ill walk round a while
Gaya Ethaniel: _/!\_
A fairy visitor: yeh, you will
Fael Illyar: Bye for now :)
A fairy visitor: it was nice to meet you both
Gaya Ethaniel: Pleasure. Same here
Fael Illyar: nice to meet you too :)
A fairy visitor: be well
A fairy visitor: bye x