2020.10.07 13:00 - Mask Inspiration

The Guardian for this meeting was Bleu Oleander. The comments are by Bleu Oleander.

Bleu Oleander: 's current display-name is "Bleu".
Bleu Oleander: hi Eos :)
Bleu Oleander: Hi Qt :)
Eos Amaterasu: HI Bleu!
Qt Core: Hi Bleu, Eos
Bleu Oleander: how's the world where you are?
Eos Amaterasu: Hi Qt
Eos Amaterasu: My neck of the world is safer, at least, than most of the world
Bleu Oleander: how nice!
Eos Amaterasu: Nicely spotted, btw
Bleu Oleander: its at least getting a little cooler here :)
Qt Core: a little worse then yesterday, stupid humans forgetting too fast
Bleu Oleander: haha ty!
Bleu Oleander: hi Mick :)
Qt Core: hi Mick
Mickorod Renard: Hiya
Eos Amaterasu: Hi Mick
Bleu Oleander: saw a fun installation ... http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlif...a/136/155/1618
Mickorod Renard: Hi Eos, how are you?
Mickorod Renard: Hi Bleu
Mickorod Renard: QT
Eos Amaterasu: I am good, probably more blessed than most
Mickorod Renard: fantastic
Eos Amaterasu: Yourself?
Mickorod Renard: great thanks
Mickorod Renard: missed a few sessions, life a bit hectic
--BELL--
Bleu Oleander: yes, just a few things going on :)
Eos Amaterasu: Missed many sessions, have not been here much of loat
Eos Amaterasu: late
Eos Amaterasu: hecticity on steroids
Bleu Oleander: indeed!
Mickorod Renard: I skipped the recent art project, although I was keen
Bleu Oleander: not due until 31st opening Mick ... so you have time LOL
Mickorod Renard: did it go well Bleu?
Bleu Oleander: opens on the 31st Mick
Mickorod Renard: ah ok
Bleu Oleander: The Masque of Being
Mickorod Renard: cool name
Bleu Oleander: yes, could inspire many interpretations
Mickorod Renard: I will try and look it al up, maybe I still have time
Eos Amaterasu: Reminds me I need to read Masque of the Red Death (Poe)
Bleu Oleander: just read that again
Mickorod Renard: I love poe
Bleu Oleander: yes me too
Mickorod Renard: his stories really live out in ones senses
Bleu Oleander: seems we haven't learned much from past pandemics!
Mickorod Renard: generations last such a short time, the next one fumbles on
Eos Amaterasu: Need societal memory analogous to that kept in the so-called junk DNA
Bleu Oleander: we had an interesting salon on history and why we shouldn't rely on it
Mickorod Renard: yes?
Bleu Oleander: "How History Gets Things Wrong" by Alex Rosenberg ... great read
Bleu Oleander: he's a philosopher at Duke
Mickorod Renard: I once offered my son the chance to listen and learn from my life mistakes...he didnt want to know
Qt Core: today i've just read a poster Milan made for the 1918 flu pandemic, beside masks and the tracing apps it would be good today
Mickorod Renard: the title you quote bleu seems to be paradoxical
Mickorod Renard: like time going backwards
Eos Amaterasu: Indeed - how could you tell right/wrong without history?
Bleu Oleander: that's what makes it interesting to think about
Bleu Oleander: history is often told in stories and stories rely on theory of mind, which seems to challenge humans :)
Bleu Oleander: how can you know the minds of others, others in history or even our own minds
Mickorod Renard: yes QT, I saw some writings from the time of the plague in London, and it seemed so poinient of today
Eos Amaterasu: Is a face a mask we grow?
Bleu Oleander: great question Eos
Mickorod Renard: very true Bleu,
Eos Amaterasu: We have these extraordinarily communicative head-muscle-skins
Mickorod Renard: our persona is a mask I guess
Bleu Oleander: that would be interesting to communicate via photography for our project Eos
Mickorod Renard: do we become the mask we wear or do we shed our mask as we get older?
Qt Core: or we get able to put t down and get it up at will faster
Bleu Oleander: I think we have many and we become skilled at shuffling them
Eos Amaterasu: I'm trying to remember that saying about beauty, young beauty vs old beauty, the latter being earned, or something like that
Eos Amaterasu: Maybe more "text" inside the latter as you look at it...
Mickorod Renard: when I taught at school I sort of had many faces depending on age groups and subjects lectured
Eos Amaterasu: Yes, our faces & voices shaping each other
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Bleu Oleander: has anyone ever said to you, "you don't look like yourself today"? what do you think they mean?
Qt Core: wondering why different faces for different subject, wht/how, Mick ?
Bleu Oleander: do our masks give us away?
Mickorod Renard: he he , I guess perhaps one might not look the happy person one usually looks like
Bleu Oleander: we're perceptive about small changes in peoples masks
Bleu Oleander: history is a kind of mask
Mickorod Renard: QT, some subjects I taught were practical and others more academemic
Qt Core: we know the Other has one or many and deep down we are sure he is trying to fool us so we try understand his moves
Eos Amaterasu: Masks mutually confirm each other
Bleu Oleander: interesting Eos ... like spooky action?
Eos Amaterasu: Without such confirmation a mask becomes more obvious
Eos Amaterasu: like the Road Runner realizing he's standing on empty space ha ha
Eos Amaterasu: And then, panic!
Bleu Oleander: ha!
Mickorod Renard: :)
Mickorod Renard: meep meep
Eos Amaterasu: It's as if we're plants, sharing root system, and leaves looking not quite right leads to anxiety about the roots, yours and mine
Bleu Oleander: fascinating subject, how plants communicate to each other
Mickorod Renard: thats a lovely way of thinking about it Eos
Bleu Oleander: I must go ... have a zoom meeting soon ... take care and see you soon
Mickorod Renard: ice to see you Bleu
Bleu Oleander: good ideas today for our projects!!
Qt Core: bye Bleu
Eos Amaterasu: Ciao ciao, nice to c u, Bleu
Mickorod Renard: take care
Bleu Oleander: bye bye
Eos Amaterasu: yikes where am I?
Mickorod Renard: sl
Mickorod Renard: hows things where you are Eos?
Mickorod Renard: are you having a second session of covid?
Eos Amaterasu: I'm in the safest spot in North America
Mickorod Renard: great
Eos Amaterasu: the Maritime Bubble in Eastern Canada
Mickorod Renard: yay
Eos Amaterasu: We get startled when we get a single new case a week
Eos Amaterasu: but you never know.....
Mickorod Renard: thats good to know, but then some are saying that we might avoid having a community resistance
Mickorod Renard: by not being exposed
Mickorod Renard: who knows
Eos Amaterasu: I think it's a combination of internal bio-protection and external societal protection
Qt Core: in one of the hardest hit area here in italy a study said that 42% of the people had contact (that is has some antibodies for) covid
Mickorod Renard: here it is suggested, that once and if a vaccine comes available, only 50% will get it
Mickorod Renard: wow QT, thats high
Mickorod Renard: I was going to ask you if your hospital admissions are going up again like ours
Qt Core: that does not mean that all those were positive or ill at some point
Mickorod Renard: 50% get the vaccine
Qt Core: slowly increasing here, yes
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Eos Amaterasu: Canada in general is getting a second wave
Eos Amaterasu: Montreal, where my sister lives, is a red zone
Mickorod Renard: now they are doing in excess of 250000 tests a day and its showing lots more infected people
Qt Core: here we are a little over 120000 a day with around 2% of positives
Mickorod Renard: they say they will only give the over 50 yr olds the vaccine plus vulnerable
Mickorod Renard: so a suggestion that the others can gradually get exposed
Qt Core: there are, at least here some problems in aquiring even the regular-flu vaccine, this year
Mickorod Renard: I had mine the other day
Qt Core: what the state/region were buying at 4.5 euro per dose now they have to buy at 26
Mickorod Renard: I have to go guys
Qt Core: not yet flu-shot season here, it'll start in a couple week
Mickorod Renard: duty calls
Qt Core: bye Mick, stay safe
Eos Amaterasu: Bye Mick, will leave shortly myself...
Mickorod Renard: bye folks, take care
Mickorod Renard: battlestar galactica..he he
Eos Amaterasu: I guess each of us is a soup of trillions of bacteria and trillions of self-cells
Mickorod Renard: byeee
Eos Amaterasu: including all kinds of stuff passing thru
Eos Amaterasu: and need to develop resilience
Qt Core: sure! just this morning i was listening at the radio abaut an ant species, so symbiotic with a bacteria that they can't properly grow if they don't have it in their body
Eos Amaterasu: yes indeed
Eos Amaterasu: Recent image that's been meaningful for me is that of the footprints of the Forest Spirit (in the Princess Mononoke movie)
Eos Amaterasu: As the forest spirit walks, in each imprint from its foot live arises
Eos Amaterasu: Just like it does in "real" for elephant footprints, which indent into the soil and attract water and mini ecologies
Eos Amaterasu: we live in such footprints
Qt Core: yes
Eos Amaterasu: and humans' footprints tend to reduce life
Eos Amaterasu: but living in the footprint of life
Eos Amaterasu: I think our personal sanities are not separate from that
Qt Core: ours are footstomp, not footpront ;-)
Qt Core: *footprint
Eos Amaterasu: :-(, yes
Eos Amaterasu: Well, great to see you, long time, best regards to your land and your loved ones
Qt Core: ty, you too!
Eos Amaterasu: Bye, Qt