The Guardian for this meeting was Eden Haiku. The comments are by Eden Haiku.
Riddle Sideways: Hey Eden, you are early
Eden Haiku: Hello ghost of Riddle :)
Eden Haiku: (he vanished into thin air )
Riddle Sideways: ?
Eden Haiku: Oh! I saw only half of you and now you are invisible...
Eden Haiku: Ah! I see you now! Good morning!
Riddle Sideways: Still see-able?
Eden Haiku: Open shirt :)
Eden Haiku: Is it very hot in California?
—BELL--
Riddle Sideways: wha is going on. wardrobe failures
Eden Haiku: Happens :)
Eden Haiku: Ah! new t-shirt, the other one :))
Riddle Sideways: hmmm, replace entire outfit is problematic, have to put piece by piece on
Eden Haiku: You look fine Riddle, don't worry :))
Riddle Sideways: ok, start day!
Riddle Sideways: woke up early today, lay there wondering how wrong it would be to start early
Eden Haiku: Took a picture. Forgot last week. So complicated with this SLK [meant SL] Viewer. Never sure if I will be able to post it in the log. Too large, too small?
Riddle Sideways: so tried it
Eden Haiku: Did you had great insights in pre-dawn ?
Riddle Sideways: and things been not going smooth
Riddle Sideways: SLK viewer?
Eden Haiku: Typo:SL viewer.
Riddle Sideways: ok
Eden Haiku: Sorry for not smooth early start ;(
Riddle Sideways: ha
Riddle Sideways: and yes, also forget when posting a photo which size setting works
Eden Haiku: Never had problem with Firestorm but Firestorm doesn't work on laptop anymore:(
Riddle Sideways: :(
Riddle Sideways: opposite here, SL viewer no longer works
Mothers Day in the Bay Area
Eden Haiku: Did you have a nice Mothers Day celebration with your family yesterday?
Riddle Sideways: oh Yes!
Eden Haiku: Nice:)
Riddle Sideways: went up to Bay area Saturday, spent night
Riddle Sideways: big brunch on Sunday
Riddle Sideways: Art museums, an art event
Riddle Sideways: lay around watch a movie
Riddle Sideways: etc
Eden Haiku: Wonderful!
Riddle Sideways: mini-vacation
Eden Haiku: Sounds like it!
Riddle Sideways: thought that the art gallery was going to be like an Art Gallery show
Riddle Sideways: turned into a Happening
Riddle Sideways: some readings, poetry, dance, thoughts,
Eden Haiku: Wow!
Eden Haiku: Was asked recently, along with other
Eden Haiku: oops!
Riddle Sideways: most of the (exhibitors?)participants had been there all week and were in the mood, groove, mindset
Riddle Sideways: so walked into a ... well sorta weird
—BELL--
Riddle Sideways: was ok,
Riddle Sideways: you were asked?
Eden Haiku: Along with other writers, to write a piece about one of the art collection piece of the Montreal Museum of Fine Arts. I chose an ice canoe painted by Riopelle.
Riddle Sideways: same or different one from the one you mentioned some time ago?
Eden Haiku: Had fun writing the piece, but will have to miss the "event" (where we read our piece next to the art). Already agreed to attend my grand-niece ballet and hip-hop show ...But I feel uncomfortable about having to miss the art event , didn’t say so yet...Yes, I remember now, telling you about it earlier...
Eden Haiku: The event at the museum is on May 25th at 2h30 pm. Exact same time....
Riddle Sideways: hmmm, ballet and hip-hop show ... remembering when those 2 words would not be in the same sentence
Eden Haiku: Yes, I'm curious to see that :) I guess they are consecutive pieces :)
Eden Haiku: How weird was it, walking into the gallery with all the artists in the mood of creation?
Riddle Sideways: well 'gallery' is being polite. kind of a warehouse
Eden Haiku: I see!
Riddle Sideways: they werevery welcoming
Eden Haiku: Nice :)
Riddle Sideways: come in, take shoes off, sit on floor.
Riddle Sideways: or here is a pillow if you are too old
Eden Haiku: smiles
Riddle Sideways: "and what do you think of the piece behind you, that you've not looked at yet?"
Eden Haiku: laughs
Riddle Sideways: this is the artist, she will explain it to you
Eden Haiku: :)
Riddle Sideways: but will use words in a different language
Eden Haiku: Oh!
Women Drawn in Yarn
Eden Haiku: Was your daughter one of the artists?
Riddle Sideways: yes, ha
Riddle Sideways:her piece was a portrait of a women drawn in yarn
Eden Haiku: Try to describe what was her art piece? Or whatever they call it now , installation maybe?
Riddle Sideways:just the top of her on paper. on a wall
Eden Haiku: In yarn?
Riddle Sideways: yarn glued to paper
Riddle Sideways: then the weave, the woven yarn left the paper
Riddle Sideways: and moved out into the room to thumbtacks to the floor
Eden Haiku: can almost see it...
Riddle Sideways: just the (waff, worf, w???) part of a weave
Riddle Sideways:the long threads
Riddle Sideways: and a box of yarn was next to the piece
Riddle Sideways: each observer was to weave a small yarn across the piece
Riddle Sideways: to add to it
Eden Haiku: Oh! Nice!
Eden Haiku: Did you add some yarn?
Riddle Sideways: yes.
Riddle Sideways: not very goodly
--BELL--
Eden Haiku: Different colors or the same?
Riddle Sideways: picked a variegated yarn piece
Riddle Sideways: so yes and no
Eden Haiku: A kind of metaphor of how the woman (a figure of her?) is changed by interactions with others?
Eden Haiku: How we all are :)
Riddle Sideways: am staring at phone, knowing there is a photo there and can't get it to Eden
Eden Haiku: have an idea :)
Zen Arado: 's current display-name is « Zen ».
Not Quite a Poem, Not Quite Prose
Riddle Sideways: there is also a photo of the words, (not quite a poem, but not quite prose) that was hung next to the piece
Riddle Sideways: sorry bell, hi Zen
Zen Arado: Hi Eden, Riddle
Riddle Sideways: just to finish that... it had to do with weaving/unweaving woven lives/existence, the future weavings etc
Riddle Sideways: is that a broken leg boot on you Zen?
Riddle Sideways: Hey, Adams
Zen Arado: Hi Adams
Zen Arado: pants have gone funny
Zen Arado: gone
Riddle Sideways: is happening today
Adams Rubble: Good morning everyone :)
Eden Haiku: Welcome Zen and Adams :)
Riddle Sideways: took a minute for this av to settle down today also
Adams Rubble: lag this morning
Eden Haiku: I see a floating Zen in white long underpants, a piece of black jeans on a shin and black sneakers with white lace :)
Riddle Sideways:like the world was not quite ready for us this morning
Eden Haiku: Maybe :)
Eden Haiku: How are you Adams?
Adams Rubble feels good to get her pixels out of the hard drive and into the RAM this morning
Eden Haiku: Ah Zen! Nice pants!
Zen Arado: ha ha
Eden Haiku: Very elegant!
Moving Up the Line
Zen Arado: Doris Day died
Zen Arado: you hear?
Adams Rubble: it has been rainy and gloomy here in RL for two straight days
Riddle Sideways: what? did not hear
Zen Arado: she was 97
Riddle Sideways: she lived just down the road here
Eden Haiku: Doris Day....
Zen Arado: oh?
Eden Haiku: Did she? Was she Irish, no?
Zen Arado: did good work for animals
Riddle Sideways: no Californian
Eden Haiku: Oh no, in US, sorry mixed lines :)
Eden Haiku: 97, what a long life!
Zen Arado: she played strong feminine leads
Riddle Sideways: yes
Eden Haiku: Yes, I kind of know her as an actor
Zen Arado: but turned dow Mrs Robinson role cos she thought her too vulgar
Zen Arado: the character
Riddle Sideways: right, she did much for animal rights and shelters adoptions for dogs
Zen Arado: in the Graduate
Riddle Sideways: would have never taken a vulgar part
Riddle Sideways: wonder if the local paper will even print anything today
Riddle Sideways: they now have like no staff on weekends
—BELL--
Zen Arado: was such a funny film
Eden Haiku: Hope so Riddle, in her own neighborhood ...
Riddle Sideways: There is a grand old hotel in downtown Carmel that she made one of the first dog-friendly hotels ever
Zen Arado: 'You cain't get a man with a gun' - reminisces
Zen Arado: really?
Zen Arado: I mean 'really' about dog hotels
Adams Rubble: unless it is a shotgun
Riddle Sideways: she did so many things around here
Riddle Sideways: notable quotes too
Eden Haiku: smiles
Riddle Sideways: there are a great number of celebs that live around here. mostly quietly
Riddle Sideways: every once in a while
Riddle Sideways: they come out for some special words to
Riddle Sideways: a town hall meetings
Riddle Sideways: or benefit
Riddle Sideways: funny, how everybody shuts up and listens
Riddle Sideways: they get away with slapped sense into a crowd
Eden Haiku: We will die one after the other, every once in a while...
Riddle Sideways: so true Eden
Adams Rubble: if we all live until 97 there will be lots for PaB sessions
Riddle Sideways: ㋡
Eden Haiku: Every person going to the other side reminds us of our own mortality...
Eden Haiku: Let's play we are all 97 now, not quite dead, still doing PaB sessions :)
Eden Haiku: What would we be complaining about?
Adams Rubble: as the Clancy Brothers sang, we are moving up the line
Eden Haiku: Moving up the line yep!
Eden Haiku: Maybe trying to escape the police running after 100 years old to exterminate them?
Adams Rubble: :)
Zen Arado: I met a guy used to be my boss on Saturday
Riddle Sideways: darn ol artheerightous gotz it down to typo-ing only one lettttterz pppppppppppppppppppppp
Zen Arado: he is 95
Eden Haiku: listening
Zen Arado: doing his shopping and still driving
Eden Haiku: laughs at Riddle typing at 97 yo!
Eden Haiku: wow!
Eden Haiku: Lucky man isn't he Zen?
Eden Haiku: Was he a good boss?
Riddle Sideways: as bosses go
Eden Haiku: :)
Artificial Intelligence in Healthcare
Zen Arado: I started a new MOOC this morning
Zen Arado: he wasn't very well organized no and they got rid of him
Zen Arado: https://www.futurelearn.com/courses/...and-challenges
Zen Arado: about how AI can help with healthcare
Eden Haiku: Seems interesting Zen.
Riddle Sideways: yes, have read lots of articles
Zen Arado: well I am interested in AI and healthcare so…
--BELL--
Riddle Sideways: catching things humans miss. And allowing humans to spend more time with patients
Zen Arado: In Taiwan you can access your own medical records and they have all sorts of statistics on you that you can check and add to yourself
Zen Arado: this course is run by the medical University of Taipei
Adams Rubble: :)
Zen Arado: they are really into preventative rather than curative medicine
Eden Haiku: smiles
Adams Rubble: we are in good times in the availability of so many online courses
Zen Arado: which seems sensible
Adams Rubble: yes
Riddle Sideways: many countries have good healthcare
Riddle Sideways: wish the US did
Zen Arado: yes I just looked for something interesting this morning and found that
Zen Arado: I found that there is a system like that in the UK but I had never heard of it
Eden Haiku: yes, it is so sad you don't have a good system...in the US. One of the richest countries...
Zen Arado: it isn't as comprehensive though
Adams Rubble: brb
Riddle Sideways: there are many countries you carry your own records around with you
Zen Arado: I must register with my GP with some ID
Zen Arado: then I can order my prescriptions and appointments and things online
Riddle Sideways: half of it might not be AI, as much as good record keeping and checking
Riddle Sideways: the AI part might be the machine learning over millions of simular cases
Zen Arado: AI can do a lot with information gathered on patient's though
Eden Haiku: Medical records online is still not completely done here...
Zen Arado: yes exactly
Zen Arado: they are talking about predicting cancer to our three years before you get it
Zen Arado: two or
Eden Haiku: That sounds horrible Zen...
Riddle Sideways: recent cases of a machine recognizing a spot on an X-ray on a hand when doctor is looking at chest
Zen Arado: yes it could have downsides as well :-)
Zen Arado: ignorance is bliss sometimes
Zen Arado: yes I would like to visit my GP and have lots of things sorted out rather than having to concentrate on one thing
Eden Haiku: Unless it pushes you to change your lifestyle to healthier ways :)
Zen Arado: because they only give you 10 minutes
Riddle Sideways: not telling the doctor (or forgetting to tell) about some case history
Zen Arado: yes our behavior is the only thing we can change
Eden Haiku: indeed
Riddle Sideways: of course there still is the interface between doctor and machine. how fast, easy, automatic will your GP interact
Riddle Sideways: with a new interface
Zen Arado: this little video explains it: https://www.futurelearn.com/courses/...OvYBtm8dk0tQb0
Eden Haiku: Hopefully doctors will update when they are prompted to...
Riddle Sideways: will the doctor be distracted by the smartphone
Eden Haiku: Play games instead of looking at medical records?
Speed Trip Ahead
Zen Arado: Yuval Harari thinks we won't need GPs in the future
Eden Haiku: Why?
Riddle Sideways: oh, Eden, like the 737-500 supermax upgrades
Zen Arado: because AI can do it better eventually
Eden Haiku: Ah!
Zen Arado: AI has access to all the latest data on diseases everywhere
Eden Haiku: Isn't GPS a kind of AI?
Zen Arado: and all the latest treatments which no doctor could possibly remember
Zen Arado: GPS just works out where you are by triangulation from satellites or something
Riddle Sideways: no GPS ins't but what is done with your location data could be
Riddle Sideways: like yesterday
Eden Haiku: Ah! But isn’it in AI?
Riddle Sideways: Google Maps did a new thing
Zen Arado: I suppose there is some AI as well to process the data
Riddle Sideways:it announces "Speed Trip ahead"
Eden Haiku: ?
Riddle Sideways: had never done that before
Riddle Sideways: that is not AI, but it was pretty smart
Zen Arado: ? is a speed trip like what we call a speed bump
Eden Haiku: Means you can go fast at a certain milestone?
Riddle Sideways: ha
Zen Arado: A bump in the road to slow you down?
Riddle Sideways: means there is a cop up the road with a radar gun checking for speeders
Eden Haiku: ahah!!!
Zen Arado: ok
Eden Haiku: Tks
Eden Haiku: Is that legal?
Riddle Sideways: hmmm, questionable
Riddle Sideways: which part?
—BELL--
Zen Arado: wouldn't be much point in having radar detection everyone knew where the cops were
Zen Arado: self drive cars won't be speeding much I think
Riddle Sideways: yes
Eden Haiku: The fact of telling there will be cops in two miles or so, so it means you can speed up until then, slow down for them and speed up until the next announcement?
Riddle Sideways: yep
Zen Arado: I have to go
Adams Rubble: everybody is speeding on the highways anyway
Adams Rubble: bye Zen :)
Zen Arado: getting near dinnertime
Zen Arado: bye
Eden Haiku: Bye Zen, have a great day!
Adams Rubble is eating lunch
Zen Arado: you too :-)
Riddle Sideways: bye zen
Riddle Sideways: there is much talk of self-driving cars/trucks joining together in trains of close linked going fast
Riddle Sideways: but back to doctors. if we were wearing smart medical instruments on say our wrists (oh like this FitBit)
Eden Haiku: Really Riddle? Seems quite scary...these fast trains of speeding cars and trucks
Eden Haiku: Yes?
Riddle Sideways: well the vehicles would know of road conditions and each others braking
Riddle Sideways: anyway, the watch could tell of hear irregularities
Wawa Canada Geese and Robins
Eden Haiku: Ah, yes, butno hitch hiking on these roads I guess :)
Riddle Sideways: exactly when the first happen
Eden Haiku: remembers she hitchhiked in California in the seventies...
Adams Rubble: !!!
Riddle Sideways: the data could be compared to several million other fast paced heartbeat reports
Eden Haiku: I was young Adams
Eden Haiku: then.:)
Adams Rubble: :)
Riddle Sideways: (oh dear, the death of hitchhiking)
Riddle Sideways: hitch hiked all the way across Canada
Eden Haiku: We were both very cautious though, my boyfriend and I.
Riddle Sideways: it was a safer time
Eden Haiku: If the car drivers looked TOO high, we declined the lift :)
Eden Haiku: They were all high somehow...
Riddle Sideways: ha ㋡
Eden Haiku: But we were not :)
Eden Haiku: It was a much safer time...
Adams Rubble: more people were following in the footsteps of Jack Kerouac in those days
Eden Haiku: Yes:)
Riddle Sideways: very scary who they are following in the footsteps of now
Eden Haiku: Read "On the Road' in French when I was about 15 :)
Adams Rubble: I did not read it until about 4 years ago in my poetry course which is why I did not hitch hike I guess
Adams Rubble: :)
Eden Haiku: Or maybe 20, can't remember. But hitchhiked in California a few years after :)
Eden Haiku: Who do you think they follow now Riddle, the young people?
Riddle Sideways: picked up many hitchhikers and built up good karma for when did go out on the road
Eden Haiku: smiles at Adams
Eden Haiku: Maybe we took a ride with you Riddle? Remember a young guy with loooong blonde hair and his girlfriend in a long flowery skirt?
Riddle Sideways: Actually Yes, Eden. So many good young examples to follow now
Adams Rubble: Thank you for the conversation this morning :)
Riddle Sideways: thank you, Adams
Eden Haiku: Thank you Adams :) Have a great fruitful day!
Adams Rubble: good to get out and see you people :)
Riddle Sideways: good to be seen
Adams Rubble: back to the hard drive for me
Riddle Sideways: aw
Adams Rubble: bye :)
Eden Haiku: Enjoy!
—BELL--
Eden Haiku: Time to go for us too in
Eden Haiku: isn't it?
Riddle Sideways: probably
Riddle Sideways: continue hitch hiking stories next time
Eden Haiku: We had good weather and I'm late in everything. So glad you had a great week end in the B ay Area!
Riddle Sideways: the WaWa Goose
Riddle Sideways: in Wawa Canada
Eden Haiku: The Wa Wa Goose?
Riddle Sideways: remember it well
Eden Haiku: Ah yes, one of your memories as a hitchhiker!
Eden Haiku: I remember now :)
Riddle Sideways: the crossroads of hitch hiking Canada
Riddle Sideways: major roads went North or E-W
Eden Haiku: Saw writer Anais Nin in Santa Barbara :) On the pier, in a restaurant…She was my WaWa Goose :)
Riddle Sideways: the ride was turning and ya got out
Riddle Sideways: and picked up the other way
Eden Haiku: a turning point!
Riddle Sideways: an actual place
Riddle Sideways: pulling old postcard off the shelf
Eden Haiku: Still have it? wow!
Eden Haiku: Show me! we will have to Skype our sessions one of these days!
Riddle Sideways: got the postcard years later, driving the cross-Canada highway
Eden Haiku: smiles
Riddle Sideways: for now, google Wawa Goose
Riddle Sideways: a big 30 foot goose
Riddle Sideways: over looking the highway
Riddle Sideways: a mile or so from where all hitchhikers seem to switch rides
Eden Haiku: https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/wawa-goose
Eden Haiku: It's beautiful!
Eden Haiku: I see real Canada geese everyday at the pond nearby where I walk :)
Riddle Sideways: ha, yes it is and
Riddle Sideways: as opposed to that place in New Mexico, where if you are let out. might as well set up house and live there cause yer not ever getting a ride out
Eden Haiku:Ah, the hell of the hitch hiker!
Riddle Sideways: YES
Riddle Sideways: so many stories
Riddle Sideways: from then
Riddle Sideways: everyday was another full novel
Eden Haiku: In reality, Canada geese are dark brown and with some black. Not all black and white but it's a very stylish thing there in WaWa !
Riddle Sideways: and remembering it a bit faded and in need of new paint
Eden Haiku: https://int.search.myway.com/search/...pr=sbt&trs=wtt
Eden Haiku: Looong link...
Eden Haiku: Long necks are black :)
Riddle Sideways: looking
Eden Haiku: Their goslings are all fluffy
Eden Haiku: They don't have them yet though
—BELL—
Riddle Sideways: aw
Riddle Sideways: fluff balls
Riddle Sideways: rain here, grew the grass very tall, not seeing the turkeys so much now
Eden Haiku: Our neighbor next door showed us a bird nest on his big spruce tree the other day, with the bird covering the eggs. And yesterday he showed us the video of two little hungry birdies beaks opening and still one tortoise egg to crack up. So beautiful!
Riddle Sideways: aw
Eden Haiku: Merle d'Amerique they are called. Google translating it...
Eden Haiku: American blackbird it seems...
Riddle Sideways: Robins
Eden Haiku: Strange as they aren't black but brown with a male with an orange belly.
Riddle Sideways: look like Robins
Riddle Sideways: the Robin was usually the first bird of spring
Riddle Sideways: to announce spring was here
Eden Haiku: Yes robins, that's it!
Eden Haiku: Looking at Google images. Our life is so full of Google…
Riddle Sideways: ok, RL is yelling for attention
Riddle Sideways: more stories next week
Riddle Sideways: until we are 97+
Eden Haiku: Thank you for being Riddle! [I meant to say thanks for being here] Have a gorgeous day!
Eden Haiku: Yep, until we are 97! That’s a plan!
Riddle Sideways: thank you for Playing
Eden Haiku: Thank you for Being :)
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