2008.12.26 07:00 - m+s or iips*?

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    iips: internal imaginary projection screen

    I meet a new face! (I=Quen)

    quen Oh: hello Fefonz
    quen Oh: nice to meet you!
    Fefonz Quan: hello quen
    quen Oh: it is quiet here
    quen Oh: christmas peace...
    Fefonz Quan: yes, i guess that's why
    quen Oh: funny your last name, and my first
    Fefonz Quan: yes, i've noticed...
    Fefonz Quan: but i didn't liberately chose mine,
    Fefonz Quan: where you did
    quen Oh: well you chose out of other options not?
    Fefonz Quan: sure.
    quen Oh: ;-) and you went for short like me?
    Fefonz Quan: well you win on this one :)
    quen Oh: I never understood why they put in sometimes very complicated long names, but on the other hand
    quen Oh: if everybody is named oh and ah and 4letterwords they all look the same
    Fefonz Quan: me neither, but after getting used to it it sounds more exotic ;)
    Fefonz Quan: but now it's done and no turning back...
    quen Oh: well indeed, it is your second identity now ;-) and it sounds nice
    quen Oh: more curious about the Fefonz though
    Fefonz Quan: well, and old name from a lab i've been in and the FE stood for physics/electronics, as curious as it may sound
    quen Oh: ah hehe
    quen Oh: not for ferrum than
    quen Oh: so you are into electronics and physics?, what do you do?
    Fefonz Quan: :), nope
    quen Oh: sounds interesting
    Fefonz Quan: i am a physicit, now working in the indusry
    Fefonz Quan: physicist*
    Fefonz Quan: mostly in electro-optics and image processing stuff
    quen Oh: a practical physicist or a turned-into-a-manager physicist?
    quen Oh: graphic cards or dvd
    quen Oh: or somethings like that?
    Fefonz Quan: turned-into-an-algorithmic-guy
    quen Oh: ;-) nice, that sounds almost rock and roll
    Fefonz Quan: Ah, that i do with the electric guitar :-)
    quen Oh: hehe
    quen Oh: christmas songs these days?
    Fefonz Quan: hanuka songs ...
    Fefonz Quan: i guess your first name has nothing to do with your occupation, or is it?
    stevenaia Michinaga is Online
    quen Oh: ah, not very familiar with hanuka songs, and never heard on a electrical guitar
    quen Oh: no, I wanted a short name with a Q
    Fefonz Quan: :)
    Fefonz Quan: never heard of electric guitar?
    quen Oh: as someone had informed me about lucky chairs where you could win stuff, as I didn't have a credit card that seemed a good way to start here
    quen Oh: yes i heard of electric guitar

    In the electrical guitar Hanuka-song misunderstanding stevenaia entered.

    quen Oh: hello stevenaia!
    Fefonz Quan: hello stevenaia
    quen Oh: and know people having them, it is the hanuka songs which I don't know
    stevenaia Michinaga: hello quen, Fefonz
    Fefonz Quan: i missed the point with the lucky chairs...
    quen Oh: well they are placed in shops and offer free items
    Fefonz Quan: sounds great.
    stevenaia Michinaga: I am trying to get motivated at work, you can see how well it's working
    quen Oh: they randomly display a letter, when that is the first of your name and you sit on it you win
    Fefonz Quan: cool :)
    quen Oh: you are designing steven?
    Fefonz Quan: i have such a slow connection today, that i saw quen's greeting before i saw stevenaia apearing :)
    Fefonz Quan: appearing*
    quen Oh: just read in your profile that we are collegues
    quen Oh: here it is laggy too
    quen Oh: even though SL seems quiet...
    quen Oh: perhaps the servers are celebrating christmas?
    stevenaia Michinaga: hmm, access to a historic building in town, seems the ramp will cause the sidewalk to callapse into the basements as the structural supports have deterioated...hate when theat happens
    stevenaia Michinaga: *when that happens
    quen Oh: ai that is not nice have your company bankrupt
    stevenaia Michinaga: nice that your wife can persue her interests in Princeton
    Fefonz Quan: no it's not. yet i am enjoying the free time i have now and can focus on fun and fascinating things, like the ones we are exploring here
    Fefonz Quan: sure steven
    Fefonz Quan: we are having a nice chat here, yet it's all be recorded and people mig tgo through it and find some insights ;-)
    Fefonz Quan: might*
    quen Oh: and you like what you find here Fefonz?
    Fefonz Quan: yes
    stevenaia Michinaga: did you attend the Kira Phenomenology exploration talk last Friday?
    Fefonz Quan: nope, i was on the move then, intend to attend the next one today
    Fefonz Quan: have you been there?
    stevenaia Michinaga: yes, I found it perplexing at first... then after reading one of Pema's homework assignments from an attendee, it made more sence, you observing object... object observing you
    quen Oh: objects observing you?
    Fefonz Quan: stevenaia you're doing a great job drinking and typing :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: yes, it does make you wonder, but Pila posted his commented to the PaB group in error, interesting reading

    While Stevenaia is messing with his whisky, Fefonz starts making plans for him and happiness...

    stevenaia Michinaga: yes, I can multitask, but not very well, bad typing and spilling the scotch everywere
    stevenaia Michinaga: I began to think. why an intereation of object, why not the observatiosn of emotions and feeling and will try my own experiment next week... me observing happynedd... happyness observing me... not sure it;s quite the experiment pema was thinking of
    Fefonz Quan: SLis one of the only places where you can drink scotch for an hour and still make sense in your philosophy discussion :)
    Fefonz Quan: then you define happines as a "thing"
    Fefonz Quan: which sounds peculiar as a starting point
    stevenaia Michinaga: it certainly is something
    Fefonz Quan: the movement of a cup" is also something, should you deal with it as such?
    stevenaia Michinaga: perhaps more meaningful than an object doing the observing
    stevenaia Michinaga: Happiness moves as well
    quen Oh: first ice in the scotch, now spilling it, don't let Storm find out...
    stevenaia Michinaga: it moves you
    Fefonz Quan: at least the object has some coordinates in time ad space to observe from
    Fefonz Quan: happiness has neither for my opinion

    And we are coming to the explaination of the m and s in the title, if you had not by instinctive reaction read meters and seconds...

    quen Oh: do you need coordinates and time to observe Fefonz?
    stevenaia Michinaga: I'm sure it;s better to keep time in space out of the dialoge between the thing and you
    stevenaia Michinaga: as one type of observation
    quen Oh: as we have apparently coordinates and time, only in normal daily life that never much seem to influence me, am not aware of that
    Fefonz Quan: in order to look i need a point from which i look
    quen Oh: you can choose the point as you wish, can't you?
    quen Oh: from very concrete and practical to more abstract?
    stevenaia Michinaga: if you or the object you are seeing is the point, I'm not sure geography matters
    Fefonz Quan: i may try, but at least i have a point chosen
    Fefonz Quan: and happiness is more complex then this
    stevenaia Michinaga: I suspect Pema's talk may be on the Kera Website
    quen Oh: how about when you read a book Fefonz?
    Fefonz Quan: the what?
    Fefonz Quan: then *
    quen Oh: than your geographical and point in time are not very relevant, right?
    Fefonz Quan: you are correct quen, concerning the book
    stevenaia Michinaga: then... the sence of relationship between you the two observers creates a dialoge of sorts
    quen Oh: your imagination is more important
    Fefonz Quan: sure, but i need to e in the vicinity of the book
    stevenaia Michinaga: if you read a book online, what does that do to the geography, where is the book then?
    Fefonz Quan: i feel my point here is not so importent, so i wouldn't push it further.
    quen Oh: or if you remember reading a book?
    Fefonz Quan: (replace the book with the screen)
    stevenaia Michinaga: computer or projection screen :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: laughs
    Fefonz Quan: RL is calling, would love to continue the conversation later :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: must be the scotch making me wicked
    quen Oh: or your internal imaginary projection screen? which you can freely project on?
    stevenaia Michinaga: bye, nice chatting
    Fefonz Quan: great meeting you both, hope to see you again!
    quen Oh: nice to have met you Fefonce! enjoy rest of christmas!
    Fefonz Quan: Hanuka :)
    quen Oh: even though it is hanuka for you and you have more ;-)
    Fefonz Quan: enjoy christmas, quen
    quen Oh: thank you Fefonz, bye :-)
    Fefonz Quan: bye all

    Unfortunately Fefonz has to leave..

    stevenaia Michinaga: that was interesting
    quen Oh: indeed
    quen Oh: will have to go too very soon, want to finish a virtual building ;-)
    stevenaia Michinaga: yes, I should get back to work as well
    stevenaia Michinaga: always as pleasure Quen
    quen Oh: are you motivated now steven? ;-)
    stevenaia Michinaga: let's just say I ahve fewer distractions
    quen Oh: always a pleasure here too steven!

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