2021.01.12 07:00 - Bodhicitta - Practice

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Riddle Sideways. The comments are by Riddle Sideways.

    Riddle Sideways: Morning Adams ㋡
    Adams Rubble: Good morning Riddle :)
    Riddle Sideways: small issues with computers (and typing) this morning


    Adams Rubble: Possible topic: Trying to practice in times of war and pestilence

    Riddle Sideways: aw, cute bunny
    Adams Rubble: exactly
    Riddle Sideways: so, when presented with times of war and pestilence and and
    Riddle Sideways: watch the bunnies
    Adams Rubble: bunnies


    Riddle Sideways: by last Thursday session it was too new and raw to talk much
    Riddle Sideways: about Wednesday
    Riddle Sideways: now after almost a week
    Riddle Sideways: and many reviews, revisits, re-caps
    Riddle Sideways: reading many articles
    Riddle Sideways: talking with others
    Riddle Sideways: and self

    Adams Rubble: Wol sends her love. She is working in virtual office
    Adams Rubble listens
    Riddle Sideways: /waves to Wol
    Riddle Sideways: hmmm, thinking SL can be like a VPN to an office


    Adams Rubble: in long short, last week a huge distraction to any practice
    Riddle Sideways: yes
    Adams Rubble: not going to end soon
    Adams Rubble: developing into a life and death struggle with the fascists
    Riddle Sideways: last week joined a friend's Other meditation group
    Riddle Sideways: she was ending the one had been going to
    Adams Rubble listens again

    Riddle Sideways: yes. the stakes and levels and and have leveled up
    Riddle Sideways: last Thursday, had not processed enough to say anything, but WTF
    Riddle Sideways: started Googling (the verb, don't actually use that search engine now)
    Adams Rubble: not everything was out last Thursday. Still more being revealed
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Riddle Sideways: right, was only 1 known dead
    Adams Rubble: that's OK, I am using the Hoover although I have a Kenmore
    Riddle Sideways: or reported
    Riddle Sideways: ㋡
    Adams Rubble: everytime we start to practice we get distracted by the noise of the outrages
    Riddle Sideways: that will be a good topic
    Riddle Sideways: another day
    Riddle Sideways: meant Hoover, but distracted also
       --BELL--
    Adams Rubble: I heard a very happy song for the first time this week that was released in 1967 by a very famous group
    Riddle Sideways: ?wonders
    Adams Rubble: I have been using it to bring me back from the despair
    Adams Rubble: Boys and Girls Together by the Mamas and the Papas. The words are silly but the music is happy
    Adams Rubble: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KreszPnZqLk
    Adams Rubble: rousing trumpets
    Adams Rubble: I don't know how I missed it all these years
    Adams Rubble: maybe it is divine intervention that it came into my world yesterday
    Riddle Sideways: thanks
    Riddle Sideways: wow, can't remember this
    Adams Rubble: I started dancing in the cellar
    Riddle Sideways: how did you find this song?
    Riddle Sideways: happy horn section
    Adams Rubble: Alexa. I asked for Mamas and papas instead of The Mamas and Papas
    Adams Rubble: I guess it adds to the distractions right now
    Riddle Sideways: ha, can imagine Alexa explaining the Birds and Bees of how normal people become Mamas and Papas
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Riddle Sideways: maybe
    Adams Rubble: it made me happy
    Riddle Sideways: ㋡ just made very happy too
    Riddle Sideways: now out of the complain mode
    Riddle Sideways: thanks
    Adams Rubble: :)))

       Just before editing this, got Happy watching this old vid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnBc8KKU85c  first time she was on the show.  Goldie became a semi-regular.


    Riddle Sideways: ok, back to reaction a riotous mob taking over a Capital. Got thinking and asking questions
    Riddle Sideways: and was nobody around to answer the questions
    Riddle Sideways: well, crank up ye olde search engines
    Adams Rubble listens again
    Riddle Sideways: had Heard many times that the election was Stolen from him
    Riddle Sideways: and no further statements of how
    Riddle Sideways: when, where, ??
    Riddle Sideways: digging did not find it
    Riddle Sideways: at first
    Riddle Sideways: ya know, another use of VPN is to not be watched digging in those holes
    Riddle Sideways: and presented with adverts for the next year :(

    Riddle Sideways: maybe it was the mail-in ballots
    Riddle Sideways: that seemed to come up
    Adams Rubble: he lied
    Riddle Sideways: states that had never done mail-in could not possibly get it right
    Riddle Sideways: True Patriots don't mail their ballots
    Riddle Sideways: Yes! he lied
    Riddle Sideways: and Other believed
    Adams Rubble: he made it all up and they believed him for a variety of reasons


    Adams Rubble: but what about our practice?
    Riddle Sideways: hmmm, tried to make up a hypothisis
    Riddle Sideways: any working therory
    Riddle Sideways: very tough when All facts need to be thrown out
       --BELL--
    Riddle Sideways: By definition, this Scientific processes can not be followed nor believed

    Adams Rubble: I keep remembering our first Human relations Commission meeting after he won in 2016 when we talked about the forces of hate that he was unleashing upon us. This is the final battle
    Riddle Sideways: Oh Yes!
    Riddle Sideways: remembering the Day One ban of Muslems
    Riddle Sideways: listened this week to a great interview-podcast discussion on Trumpism
    Riddle Sideways: and Trumpism is not new
    Riddle Sideways: just rides on the age old hate
    Adams Rubble: he is a very unhappy man
    Adams Rubble: nothing will make him happy
    Adams Rubble: he is lost in his ignorance

    Adams Rubble: Pema used to talk about hating someone's actions but not the person
    Riddle Sideways: trying to imagine a mind that really thinks he won and it was Stolen
    Adams Rubble: it is hard to practice that in this case
    Riddle Sideways: right, find that there is not Hate for Trump, actually
    Adams Rubble: he doesn't actually think that, although he is convincing himself because he hears others repeating his words. he needs that reinforcement
    Riddle Sideways: just the actions
    Riddle Sideways: he could not sit in the second row of inauguration
    Riddle Sideways: and not be about him
    Adams Rubble: right
    Adams Rubble: very sad
    Riddle Sideways: So Sad
    Riddle Sideways: there are phrases that will haunt for years

    Riddle Sideways: so many reflecting on how it this mob had been BLM, Stop the War, Global warming, Moms for Peace
    Riddle Sideways: the National Guard would have been there
    Riddle Sideways: That Dem convention in 68
    Riddle Sideways: nope, this time Those (Feds, Intelligence, police, Nat. Guard) did not react to
    Adams Rubble: this time the images were obvious to many people
    Riddle Sideways: "Y'all come to Washington with yer guns and go Wild"
    Riddle Sideways: So searches on Internet, found no facts, figures, science stuff on what 'Stolen' meant
    Riddle Sideways: dig deeper
    Riddle Sideways: how do Other believe it
    Riddle Sideways: went to a bad place
    Adams Rubble: down deep is Racism
    Riddle Sideways: got a public broadcast messaging from person am having private chats with
    Riddle Sideways: Urgent call to prayer
       --BELL--
    Riddle Sideways: all prayer circles need to pray for Trump, his family, etc. who are getting sick through the stress they have been under

    Adams Rubble: Bodhicitta

    Riddle Sideways: there was a word 'intercessors' in the message, did not know that word

    Adams Rubble: When a monk who had been left behind in Tibet finally was able to come to India, the Dalai lama asked him how it was. He answered that it was very difficult and that he almost lost it. To make a long story short, he said he almost lost his ability to have compassion for his tormentors
    Riddle Sideways: Almost
    Riddle Sideways: hmmm
    Riddle Sideways: And Elie Wiesel wrote about that too
    Adams Rubble: yes!

    Adams Rubble: so important for us to continue practicing
    Adams Rubble: remembering our humanity
    Adams Rubble: it goes outward from us
    Riddle Sideways: darn, was very close to sending some bad words to somebody
    Riddle Sideways: Thank you, should not do that
    Riddle Sideways: but, but, but, it would feel good for a few moments
    Adams Rubble: so hard to remember to practice in times of war and pestilence and we have not even talked about the pestilence this morning
    Riddle Sideways: right, only on one pestilence so far this morning
    Riddle Sideways: hard to give energy to the other 6 plagues during this one
    Riddle Sideways: Breathe
    Riddle Sideways: Tax the rich, feed to poor, plant a tree, recycle, Smile, Practice Breathing
    Riddle Sideways: treat the stranger as yourself
       --BELL--
    Riddle Sideways: Love thy Neighbor
    Riddle Sideways: park the un-ease over some not-understandings off to the side until their time
    Adams Rubble: may all the people of this country be free from pain and suffering; may they be free of anxiety and fear; may then be pahhy and find peace and joy

    Riddle Sideways: *hapy?
    Adams Rubble: whoops happy
    Riddle Sideways: giggles at pithy
    Riddle Sideways: (Furry ball ?) (Faenik) loves typos
    Riddle Sideways: you have Adael, what was the older ball of fur on shoulder?
    Adams Rubble: I forget for the moment


    Adams Rubble: I am going to have to get ready for the little ones. I hope you have a peaceful couple of days until the next session
    Riddle Sideways: RL just yelled down that the Next thing is starting ㋡
    Riddle Sideways: need to go also
    Riddle Sideways: thank you for today
    Adams Rubble: thank you Riddle :)
    Riddle Sideways: trying hard to kind a ball of peacefulness in pocket
    Adams Rubble: find :)
    Riddle Sideways: right
    Riddle Sideways: by All
    Adams Rubble: bye

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    Logged on to comment on what "intercessors" are, and on an experience I had a few months ago, while helping a couple organize part of their home.

    Throughout the process, the two were in newlywed mode extreme, so much so that it was difficult at times to get their attention to ask them the questions I needed to ask.At some point, she checked her phone and then pulled him to the side (still close enough to me that it didn't mask their conversation at all) to say that at a certain time, Trump was asking everyone to pray. They then worked out that they could do so while I was doing the drawing/draft of their space.

    This was the first time in the course of the Trump presidency, that I really 'felt' what it was like to be an evangelical caught up in that movement... how fused the "prosperity gospel" brand of Christianity is with the "Greed is good" brand of Capitalism.

    I remembered being an "intercessor" back when I was attending certain types of churches, and how I trained myself to be extra sensitive to stop anything going on (sleep, work, anything), in order to pray when the Spirit moved. Then, it was more about intuition than someone else's agenda, although I'm sure colored by the beliefs I was trying to develop. To be an intercessor was a calling, interceding between earth and heaven.

    I should say, these people really seemed to be trying to enact heaven on earth for themselves... perfectly groomed, focused on being perfectly in love, caught up, in a way... heavenly kingdom minded, generating bliss... maybe like some SL avatars. :)

    I really got what has been going on, at least that aspect of how there can be such separation from the realities of others. I also related to them in a deeper way than I'd allowed myself before, compassion arising. At the same time, I wanted to get away from them/felt relieved when the interaction was over.

    Recently, I came across the term "conspirituality"... have been learning what that is with regard to New Age/Q-Anon/Law of Attraction movements. So interesting and disturbing. edited 19:54, 5 Feb 2021
    Posted 19:25, 5 Feb 2021
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