The Guardian for this meeting was Riddle Sideways. The comments are by Riddle Sideways.
Riddle Sideways: Morning Adams ㋡
Adams Rubble: Good morning Riddle :)
Riddle Sideways: small issues with computers (and typing) this morning
Adams Rubble: Possible topic: Trying to practice in times of war and pestilence
Riddle Sideways: aw, cute bunny
Adams Rubble: exactly
Riddle Sideways: so, when presented with times of war and pestilence and and
Riddle Sideways: watch the bunnies
Adams Rubble: bunnies
Riddle Sideways: by last Thursday session it was too new and raw to talk much
Riddle Sideways: about Wednesday
Riddle Sideways: now after almost a week
Riddle Sideways: and many reviews, revisits, re-caps
Riddle Sideways: reading many articles
Riddle Sideways: talking with others
Riddle Sideways: and self
Adams Rubble: Wol sends her love. She is working in virtual office
Adams Rubble listens
Riddle Sideways: /waves to Wol
Riddle Sideways: hmmm, thinking SL can be like a VPN to an office
Adams Rubble: in long short, last week a huge distraction to any practice
Riddle Sideways: yes
Adams Rubble: not going to end soon
Adams Rubble: developing into a life and death struggle with the fascists
Riddle Sideways: last week joined a friend's Other meditation group
Riddle Sideways: she was ending the one had been going to
Adams Rubble listens again
Riddle Sideways: yes. the stakes and levels and and have leveled up
Riddle Sideways: last Thursday, had not processed enough to say anything, but WTF
Riddle Sideways: started Googling (the verb, don't actually use that search engine now)
Adams Rubble: not everything was out last Thursday. Still more being revealed
Adams Rubble: :)
Riddle Sideways: right, was only 1 known dead
Adams Rubble: that's OK, I am using the Hoover although I have a Kenmore
Riddle Sideways: or reported
Riddle Sideways: ㋡
Adams Rubble: everytime we start to practice we get distracted by the noise of the outrages
Riddle Sideways: that will be a good topic
Riddle Sideways: another day
Riddle Sideways: meant Hoover, but distracted also
--BELL--
Adams Rubble: I heard a very happy song for the first time this week that was released in 1967 by a very famous group
Riddle Sideways: ?wonders
Adams Rubble: I have been using it to bring me back from the despair
Adams Rubble: Boys and Girls Together by the Mamas and the Papas. The words are silly but the music is happy
Adams Rubble: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KreszPnZqLk
Adams Rubble: rousing trumpets
Adams Rubble: I don't know how I missed it all these years
Adams Rubble: maybe it is divine intervention that it came into my world yesterday
Riddle Sideways: thanks
Riddle Sideways: wow, can't remember this
Adams Rubble: I started dancing in the cellar
Riddle Sideways: how did you find this song?
Riddle Sideways: happy horn section
Adams Rubble: Alexa. I asked for Mamas and papas instead of The Mamas and Papas
Adams Rubble: I guess it adds to the distractions right now
Riddle Sideways: ha, can imagine Alexa explaining the Birds and Bees of how normal people become Mamas and Papas
Adams Rubble: :)
Riddle Sideways: maybe
Adams Rubble: it made me happy
Riddle Sideways: ㋡ just made very happy too
Riddle Sideways: now out of the complain mode
Riddle Sideways: thanks
Adams Rubble: :)))
Just before editing this, got Happy watching this old vid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnBc8KKU85c first time she was on the show. Goldie became a semi-regular.
Riddle Sideways: ok, back to reaction a riotous mob taking over a Capital. Got thinking and asking questions
Riddle Sideways: and was nobody around to answer the questions
Riddle Sideways: well, crank up ye olde search engines
Adams Rubble listens again
Riddle Sideways: had Heard many times that the election was Stolen from him
Riddle Sideways: and no further statements of how
Riddle Sideways: when, where, ??
Riddle Sideways: digging did not find it
Riddle Sideways: at first
Riddle Sideways: ya know, another use of VPN is to not be watched digging in those holes
Riddle Sideways: and presented with adverts for the next year :(
Riddle Sideways: maybe it was the mail-in ballots
Riddle Sideways: that seemed to come up
Adams Rubble: he lied
Riddle Sideways: states that had never done mail-in could not possibly get it right
Riddle Sideways: True Patriots don't mail their ballots
Riddle Sideways: Yes! he lied
Riddle Sideways: and Other believed
Adams Rubble: he made it all up and they believed him for a variety of reasons
Adams Rubble: but what about our practice?
Riddle Sideways: hmmm, tried to make up a hypothisis
Riddle Sideways: any working therory
Riddle Sideways: very tough when All facts need to be thrown out
--BELL--
Riddle Sideways: By definition, this Scientific processes can not be followed nor believed
Adams Rubble: I keep remembering our first Human relations Commission meeting after he won in 2016 when we talked about the forces of hate that he was unleashing upon us. This is the final battle
Riddle Sideways: Oh Yes!
Riddle Sideways: remembering the Day One ban of Muslems
Riddle Sideways: listened this week to a great interview-podcast discussion on Trumpism
Riddle Sideways: and Trumpism is not new
Riddle Sideways: just rides on the age old hate
Adams Rubble: he is a very unhappy man
Adams Rubble: nothing will make him happy
Adams Rubble: he is lost in his ignorance
Adams Rubble: Pema used to talk about hating someone's actions but not the person
Riddle Sideways: trying to imagine a mind that really thinks he won and it was Stolen
Adams Rubble: it is hard to practice that in this case
Riddle Sideways: right, find that there is not Hate for Trump, actually
Adams Rubble: he doesn't actually think that, although he is convincing himself because he hears others repeating his words. he needs that reinforcement
Riddle Sideways: just the actions
Riddle Sideways: he could not sit in the second row of inauguration
Riddle Sideways: and not be about him
Adams Rubble: right
Adams Rubble: very sad
Riddle Sideways: So Sad
Riddle Sideways: there are phrases that will haunt for years
Riddle Sideways: so many reflecting on how it this mob had been BLM, Stop the War, Global warming, Moms for Peace
Riddle Sideways: the National Guard would have been there
Riddle Sideways: That Dem convention in 68
Riddle Sideways: nope, this time Those (Feds, Intelligence, police, Nat. Guard) did not react to
Adams Rubble: this time the images were obvious to many people
Riddle Sideways: "Y'all come to Washington with yer guns and go Wild"
Riddle Sideways: So searches on Internet, found no facts, figures, science stuff on what 'Stolen' meant
Riddle Sideways: dig deeper
Riddle Sideways: how do Other believe it
Riddle Sideways: went to a bad place
Adams Rubble: down deep is Racism
Riddle Sideways: got a public broadcast messaging from person am having private chats with
Riddle Sideways: Urgent call to prayer
--BELL--
Riddle Sideways: all prayer circles need to pray for Trump, his family, etc. who are getting sick through the stress they have been under
Adams Rubble: Bodhicitta
Riddle Sideways: there was a word 'intercessors' in the message, did not know that word
Adams Rubble: When a monk who had been left behind in Tibet finally was able to come to India, the Dalai lama asked him how it was. He answered that it was very difficult and that he almost lost it. To make a long story short, he said he almost lost his ability to have compassion for his tormentors
Riddle Sideways: Almost
Riddle Sideways: hmmm
Riddle Sideways: And Elie Wiesel wrote about that too
Adams Rubble: yes!
Adams Rubble: so important for us to continue practicing
Adams Rubble: remembering our humanity
Adams Rubble: it goes outward from us
Riddle Sideways: darn, was very close to sending some bad words to somebody
Riddle Sideways: Thank you, should not do that
Riddle Sideways: but, but, but, it would feel good for a few moments
Adams Rubble: so hard to remember to practice in times of war and pestilence and we have not even talked about the pestilence this morning
Riddle Sideways: right, only on one pestilence so far this morning
Riddle Sideways: hard to give energy to the other 6 plagues during this one
Riddle Sideways: Breathe
Riddle Sideways: Tax the rich, feed to poor, plant a tree, recycle, Smile, Practice Breathing
Riddle Sideways: treat the stranger as yourself
--BELL--
Riddle Sideways: Love thy Neighbor
Riddle Sideways: park the un-ease over some not-understandings off to the side until their time
Adams Rubble: may all the people of this country be free from pain and suffering; may they be free of anxiety and fear; may then be pahhy and find peace and joy
Riddle Sideways: *hapy?
Adams Rubble: whoops happy
Riddle Sideways: giggles at pithy
Riddle Sideways: (Furry ball ?) (Faenik) loves typos
Riddle Sideways: you have Adael, what was the older ball of fur on shoulder?
Adams Rubble: I forget for the moment
Adams Rubble: I am going to have to get ready for the little ones. I hope you have a peaceful couple of days until the next session
Riddle Sideways: RL just yelled down that the Next thing is starting ㋡
Riddle Sideways: need to go also
Riddle Sideways: thank you for today
Adams Rubble: thank you Riddle :)
Riddle Sideways: trying hard to kind a ball of peacefulness in pocket
Adams Rubble: find :)
Riddle Sideways: right
Riddle Sideways: by All
Adams Rubble: bye
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Throughout the process, the two were in newlywed mode extreme, so much so that it was difficult at times to get their attention to ask them the questions I needed to ask.At some point, she checked her phone and then pulled him to the side (still close enough to me that it didn't mask their conversation at all) to say that at a certain time, Trump was asking everyone to pray. They then worked out that they could do so while I was doing the drawing/draft of their space.
This was the first time in the course of the Trump presidency, that I really 'felt' what it was like to be an evangelical caught up in that movement... how fused the "prosperity gospel" brand of Christianity is with the "Greed is good" brand of Capitalism.
I remembered being an "intercessor" back when I was attending certain types of churches, and how I trained myself to be extra sensitive to stop anything going on (sleep, work, anything), in order to pray when the Spirit moved. Then, it was more about intuition than someone else's agenda, although I'm sure colored by the beliefs I was trying to develop. To be an intercessor was a calling, interceding between earth and heaven.
I should say, these people really seemed to be trying to enact heaven on earth for themselves... perfectly groomed, focused on being perfectly in love, caught up, in a way... heavenly kingdom minded, generating bliss... maybe like some SL avatars. :)
I really got what has been going on, at least that aspect of how there can be such separation from the realities of others. I also related to them in a deeper way than I'd allowed myself before, compassion arising. At the same time, I wanted to get away from them/felt relieved when the interaction was over.
Recently, I came across the term "conspirituality"... have been learning what that is with regard to New Age/Q-Anon/Law of Attraction movements. So interesting and disturbing. edited 19:54, 5 Feb 2021