2021.04.27 07:00 - Tra Dit Tion and Lectio Divina

The Guardian for this meeting was Riddle Sideways. The comments are by Riddle Sideways.

Riddle Sideways: hmmm, where to sit?
Adams Rubble: :)
Riddle Sideways: maybe by the bunny
Riddle Sideways: Good Morning Adams ㋡
Adams Rubble: good morning Riddle

Adams Rubble: I am wearing an oddly inappropriate outfit for PaB
Riddle Sideways: ? why do you think that?
Adams Rubble: I don't know. I just thought it
Adams Rubble: :)
Adams Rubble: ask the bunny
Riddle Sideways: hmmm, not sure there was Ever a dress code for here
Riddle Sideways: only personal choice
Adams Rubble: we have been advised to dress up sometimes during COVID
Riddle Sideways: to at least wear a nice top on Zoom
Adams Rubble: sorry, did not mean to tart a thread
Adams Rubble: start
Adams Rubble: :)

Riddle Sideways: saw your leaping today, it left white trails behind
Riddle Sideways: maybe this viewer or you were moving like a Jet leaving trails
Adams Rubble: :)
Adams Rubble: I hope my outfit was not unraveling during the leaping

Adams Rubble: I have been off on a Lectio Divina binge
Riddle Sideways: Had not read your blog for a while
Riddle Sideways: was trying to catch up
Adams Rubble: they have been long posts
Riddle Sideways: scanning quickly, in case there was a test
Adams Rubble: no test

Riddle Sideways: did look up Lectio Divina
Riddle Sideways: and thinking that the order is not quite what Judism does
Adams Rubble: ohh, please say more
Riddle Sideways: and that it falls directly into "Tradition" (sung)
Adams Rubble: :)
Adams Rubble sings along
Riddle Sideways: "Traaaa Dit Tion"

Riddle Sideways: well tradition has prayer first and last
Riddle Sideways: and it is almost like Lectio Divina
Riddle Sideways: but, starts with an opening prayer to start study
Riddle Sideways: and is done over and over so that as soon as that opening is heard-said-sang
Riddle Sideways: then an enter into starts

Adams Rubble: so prayer, reading, then?
Riddle Sideways: yes, hmmm meditate (probably)
Riddle Sideways: then comtemplate
Adams Rubble: no prayer after reading?
Riddle Sideways: oh yes. end the session with the ending prayer
Riddle Sideways: a thank you for the time
Adams Rubble: ahh, todays theme in the blog Thanksgiving
Riddle Sideways: (did not get to that one :(
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Riddle Sideways: so, the practice is bookended by tradition repeatition
Riddle Sideways: a gong could substitute
Riddle Sideways: ㋡
Adams Rubble: that seemed a fast 90 seconds
Riddle Sideways: if one were to practice a repetitive act e.g. a gong every 15 minutes, to signal a start of comtemplation-meditation
Riddle Sideways: and did that for say 13 years
Adams Rubble: I haven't quite come to a full understanding of the difference between meditation and contemplation but maybe that will come with practice
Riddle Sideways: or even 1 week
Riddle Sideways: stumbled over those two minutes ago also

Adams Rubble: I am planning on staying with the Lectio Divina practice for a week
Adams Rubble: I promise not to blog in such detail :)))
Riddle Sideways: is ok, like the readings
Riddle Sideways: hard to fill in the blank parts on short writings
Adams Rubble: I wanted to get a taste of the steps

Riddle Sideways: so, read something. then meditate on what was just read. A quiet, opening to what the choosen words conveyed
Riddle Sideways: which automatically leads into contemplating what that meant

Adams Rubble: reading aloud was part of the practice
Adams Rubble: read aloud well before starting
Adams Rubble: I did that last night by listening to a youtube reading
Riddle Sideways: if in a group, one would read the words while the rest followed along
Adams Rubble: yes as in church or in the synagogue
Riddle Sideways: maybe Hearing the words makes sure one is not skipped

Adams Rubble: question
Adams Rubble: Are any scriptures other than the Torah read in synagogue services?
Riddle Sideways: often one of Psalms are read
Riddle Sideways: and on special holidays there would be other books
Riddle Sideways: not many
Adams Rubble: next question
Riddle Sideways: since there is a section of Torah each week
Riddle Sideways: that gets dealt with
Adams Rubble: yes
Riddle Sideways: and read several of the Commentaries
Adams Rubble: where are the other scriptures from the Jewish Bible read?
Adams Rubble: ohhh commentaries on the Torah in synagogue?
Riddle Sideways: Mishnah
Adams Rubble: ah, OK
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Riddle Sideways: that would be mostly in Bible study sessions
Riddle Sideways: or into a sermon
Adams Rubble: can you say more about the Bible study sessions?
Riddle Sideways: there is a scroll-Book of Ruth that is read during Shavuot
Adams Rubble: oh, that is coming up
Riddle Sideways: Sabbath has Friday night opening services. Tradition.
Riddle Sideways: and Saturday sundown services to close
Riddle Sideways: and Saturday morning services
Riddle Sideways: then there is not much else to do, so often a Study session gets thrown in
Adams Rubble: thank you
Riddle Sideways: simple to call it Bible Study
Adams Rubble: is there prayer with those sessions?
Riddle Sideways: a section of the section of the week is read and translated
Riddle Sideways: meditated, contemplated, studied, talked to death ㋡
Adams Rubble: :)))
Riddle Sideways: Yes, an opening prayer to start the act of study
Riddle Sideways: a closing prayer to thank for the study
Adams Rubble: :)

Adams Rubble: APAPB
Riddle Sideways: an opening to Being, appreciation, and a closing gong
Adams Rubble: are you by any chance referring to the gong in my post today?
Riddle Sideways: hmmm no, have not read that yet

Riddle Sideways: Last weekend, the exact center of the Torah-Bible was being read
Adams Rubble: exact center? Leviticus?
Riddle Sideways: right in the middle of Leviticus and all those rules and laws and when to stone somebody. It takes a break and puts in the central core portion
Riddle Sideways: then Leviticus goes back to what it was talking
Riddle Sideways: contains very favored passage.
Riddle Sideways: but, this week, during the reading one work 'Popped out'

Adams Rubble: don't practice that at home (i.e. stoning)
Adams Rubble is listening
Riddle Sideways: funny story, that should be told, but is off topic

Riddle Sideways: on topic. The passage has The Main Being/G-d/non-dualism/figure/(so many other words-name)
Riddle Sideways: Commanding
Riddle Sideways: in a BIG booming voice
Riddle Sideways: yet uses a word "Shall"
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Riddle Sideways: Hi, Bye.

Adams Rubble: long time no griefer
Riddle Sideways: Think there was an elephant here, being ridden by a standing glowing figure
Riddle Sideways: ignore YoYo 1986 on the "Elephant in the Room"


Adams Rubble is waiting for what the booming voice is saying
Riddle Sideways: ok, back to topic
Riddle Sideways: voice is Commanding "You Do This!"
Riddle Sideways: however, this week heard the little 'shall' do this. that is in there
Riddle Sideways: Shall has a 'you have a choice' ring to it
Riddle Sideways: And it conveys a 'you might not be very good at this yet, but keep trying' aspect
Adams Rubble: hmm. I don't know the context and my anglo-saxon is not that good, but I think that might be just a grammatical difference
Riddle Sideways: of course all this was an Oral history. That eventually got written in Hebrew.
Riddle Sideways: so last weekend somebody read the Hebrew and somebody else read an English translation
Adams Rubble: ahhh
Adams Rubble: many translations nowdays
Riddle Sideways: and in a Contemplate session. so other Hebrew readers take shots at what the words could also mean
Adams Rubble listens some more
Riddle Sideways: many arguments/discussions break out over why the Hebrew word is plural or has that run on font or this or that
Riddle Sideways: it is enough that there was a personal meditation on 'Shall'
Riddle Sideways: and then some reading and discussion on Shall
Riddle Sideways: and thought of that when reading your practicing

Riddle Sideways: and if it is ok, Now the cute little story.
Adams Rubble: OK, then I must run. Session went super fast this morning
Adams Rubble listens
Riddle Sideways: years ago was having B'nai Mitzvah with a group of 20 adults
Riddle Sideways: big crowd that can not each take a long portion of that week
Riddle Sideways: so broken down
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Riddle Sideways: to mine was only 3 sentences
Riddle Sideways: Happened to be about who, when, how, etc. to Stone somebody
Adams Rubble: :)
Adams Rubble: please talk through the bell
Riddle Sideways: each person is to read the Hebrew, then English and then paraphrase
Riddle Sideways: a small speach-sermon of what you just read means to you.
Riddle Sideways: The one that I did Not deliver that day was "How to get Stoned"
Adams Rubble: :)

Riddle Sideways: Sorry to have taken over this session
Adams Rubble: no no, you did not do that
Riddle Sideways: Think if the gentle reader was to read your side of the stories
Riddle Sideways: from your blog
Riddle Sideways: then your voice would have been in here

Adams Rubble: thank you for expanding on my knowledge of Lectio Divina type practices
Adams Rubble: each tradtion has its own methods

Adams Rubble: probably would be fun for both of us to listen to someone from the Islamic tradition
Riddle Sideways: Yet they overlap
Adams Rubble: yes!
Adams Rubble: I must go get ready for my next gig. Will you be posting this pretty soon?
Riddle Sideways: Each Thursday, my now very good friend will slide a bit of Islam into the story of cooking today's meal
Adams Rubble: :)
Riddle Sideways: will try to get er' done soon
Adams Rubble: thank you again. this was a great session
Riddle Sideways: got a couple hours of something right now
Riddle Sideways: and Thank you
Riddle Sideways: (end with the now Traditional) By All
Adams Rubble: I hope you have a good day and tomorrow and I will see you Thursday Inshallah
Adams Rubble: bye :)