Scathach Rhiadra: mmm, yes, and I had just a single sylable word, 'Blue', but by the time I heard the 'l' the 'b' was gone, then the 'l'sound was gone when I heard the 'ue'
Mickorod Renard: I am starting to see why I am not an academic
Fefonz Quan: ha, now that you say it, i saw the words (like "BLUE") floating before me
Scathach Rhiadra: can only seem to be aware of the thought in our mind at this exact moment, not matter how complicated that thought seems to be
Mickorod Renard: yes,,I am with u there scath
Fefonz Quan: yes, giving the saying 'hold that thought' a new degree of challenge
Mickorod Renard: anything else is memory
Fefonz Quan: it's like saying 'stop time'
Scathach Rhiadra: mm, and the memory is also a thought when you remember, bring it into being
Fael Illyar: Sorry everyone but I need to go now. See you later :)
Fefonz Quan: arising as a loop of thought-memory-thought-.......
Mickorod Renard: bye fael
Pema Pera: oops, I see the beginning of the tunnel coming up in the distance, and will lose internet connection -- another beginning & end of my presence here -- see you all soon again!
Scathach Rhiadra: bye Fael
Pema Pera: bye everybody!
Fefonz Quan: bye fael :)
Mickorod Renard: bye Pema
Fefonz Quan: bye pema
Scathach Rhiadra: bye Pema
Pema Pera: glad to see the enormous variety of responses!
Fael Illyar waves.
Fael Illyar: see you later Pema :)
Chiaiu Chiung: bye fael, bye pema
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Fefonz Quan: (my first association was the tunnel toward the bright light... spooky )
Scathach Rhiadra: :)
Mickorod Renard: ;-)
Fefonz Quan: bringing to memory our last sentences scath :)
Scathach Rhiadra: !?!
Mickorod Renard: I guess this tells us something
Fefonz Quan: we were talking about memory as generating thoughts
Scathach Rhiadra: ah, yes:)
Chiaiu Chiung: must go, too
Mickorod Renard: bye chi
Scathach Rhiadra: bye Chi
Fefonz Quan: bye chiaiu
Chiaiu Chiung: bye all
Chiaiu Chiung: CU
Fefonz Quan: and then those thought are turning into memories
Scathach Rhiadra: mmm, and being recalled into being again and again, always 'now'
Fefonz Quan: thoughts*
Mickorod Renard: like a river flowing
Fefonz Quan: yes scath, i think we came with a new desciption of arising
Mickorod Renard: or rather..like a wave moving forward
Scathach Rhiadra: :)
Fefonz Quan: a river mick, but in a circular way
Fefonz Quan: so in order to keep a thought, we need to 'arise' it all the time to teh now
Mickorod Renard: the same thought,,the same instant of the thought
Fefonz Quan: (not saying that it is an active thing we are 'doing')
Mickorod Renard: like a strobe light
Scathach Rhiadra: and not the same thought, because that is gone as soon as it is thought:)
Mickorod Renard: yes,,but as Fef was saying,,to hold a thought
Fefonz Quan nods to Scath
Mickorod Renard: although we wud be tricking ourselves
Fefonz Quan: SO mick, this is an illusion of holding, infact it's recreating any moment again and again
Mickorod Renard: because we would be replicating the thought that had passed
Mickorod Renard: no actually holding it
Scathach Rhiadra: and the associations or relations we make, think Blue, see image of sky, gives the appearance of sequential time
Mickorod Renard: I was just trying to remember if its possible to not have any thought
Fefonz Quan: /nods to scath again :)
Scathach Rhiadra: mmm, just sheer awareness
Fefonz Quan: i would say yes too mick, but in a careful way
Scathach Rhiadra nods
Mickorod Renard: I wonder why the mind is so active
Fefonz Quan: fear of teh void
Fefonz Quan: fear of the silence
Mickorod Renard: is it to block out something,,or to keep creating reality as we know it
Fefonz Quan: fear of letting go
Fefonz Quan: and bad education ;-)
Mickorod Renard: hey,,are you refering to me? ;-)
Scathach Rhiadra: or fear that if we didn't actualise reality, as we think of it, there would be nothing, oblivion
Fefonz Quan: not at all mick :)
Mickorod Renard: he he
Mickorod Renard: would you believe I actually teach kids
Mickorod Renard: God save em
Fefonz Quan: sure, and i guess you are doing a good job.
Mickorod Renard: I do feel that way sometimes scath
Mickorod Renard: or else,,that reality is too scary
Fefonz Quan: me too. in a way you define fear of death scathach
Scathach Rhiadra nods
Scathach Rhiadra: and yet how could we actualise this whole incredible universe if there was only oblivion?
Fefonz Quan: yes, but the fear of oblivion doesn';t say that it is real.
Fefonz Quan: maybe when we let go, we will find something different from what we fear of
Scathach Rhiadra: yes:)
Fefonz Quan: even the opposite
Mickorod Renard: something actualized it,,even if its real
Fefonz Quan: or it is actualized, arising
Scathach Rhiadra nods
Mickorod Renard: yes
Scathach Rhiadra: and our 'self' too
Mickorod Renard: mmmmmm
Mickorod Renard: I think we are falling into a deep thought area
Mickorod Renard: and I have to go
Scathach Rhiadra grins
Fefonz Quan: so let's just spread wings and fly ;-)
Scathach Rhiadra: I have to go too, see you both tomorrow?
Mickorod Renard: bye scath
Female Walk ZHAO: Could not find animation 'sit_feet up'.
Fefonz Quan: yes see you, it has been inspiring
Mickorod Renard: thanks 4 tonite
Scathach Rhiadra: thank you both, namasté
Fefonz Quan: namaste
Mickorod Renard: nameste
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Mickorod Renard: ok Fef,,I better go before i am noticed missing
Fefonz Quan: (whose GOC now/0
Fefonz Quan: ?
Mickorod Renard: I dont know
Mickorod Renard: eeek
Fefonz Quan: ok, it was worthy of recording.
You decline Does the internet make us lonely? from A group member named Mook Maruti.
Mickorod Renard: shall i check on the list?
Fefonz Quan: guess it's ok.
Mickorod Renard: or have you done it?
Mickorod Renard: ok
Fefonz Quan: see you
Mickorod Renard: bye,,thanks
PaB Listener Master: The last Guardian has left the pavilion, and the half-hour minimum session time has been reached. Recording will now cease.
PaB Listener Master: Recording has stopped, the session is ended.
Fefonz Quan's PaB Listener: No longer recording. Have a nice day. :)
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