d. Aphrodite Macbain

Aphrodite Macbain has been a very active and energetic guardian since arriving in PaB about seventeen months ago. I met Aph at her lovely house in the PaB village, Oak Tree Common. We sat on cushions facing each other.

Adams: I want to first apologize for taking so long to finding time interview you. Thank you for being so patient with me. I am glad to finally get to sit down with you and talk to you.
Aphrodite: me too
Adams: By my calculations, you have been coming to PaB sessions for almost a year and a half. Did you know you are present in 590 wiki pages. That is more than one entry a day. You have been very, very active.

I ask Aphrodite when she first came to PaB and whether she remembered the guardian of her first session. She recounts how she came to learn about PaB.

Aphrodite: No I don't remember who it was; I was not even aware of the notion of guardian at that stage.
Aphrodite: But I was introduced to PaB by Bruce Mowbray .
Aphrodite: He and I had been in the same SL meditation group where I got to know him
Adams: Nice, I did not know that
Aphrodite: Up until then I was wandering around SL looking for something engaging for me to do
Aphrodite: and joined some philosophical discussion groups
Aphrodite: but I found them difficult to participate in. Too many people, too many voices competing to be heard. No one listening.
Adams Rubble nods
Aphrodite: When I came to the PaB meetings I felt listened to for the first time
Aphrodite: I felt I had something to offer
Aphrodite: Not long after I was invited to be a Guardian and I was very flattered.
Aphrodite: I can’t remember when that was.

Second Life

Adams: I know you became a guardian in August 2010 from the Chronicles :)
Adams: Did you have a particular reason for coming into SL?
Aphrodite: ah. OK that makes sense
Aphrodite: I had become retired and had more time on my hands.
Adams: :)
Aphrodite: So I began to explore new things and am always curious about new technologies, social media etc.
Aphrodite: I teach a class on the Internet so am somewhat familiar with text communication on the Internet
Adams: :)
Aphrodite: I saw a play that was put on as part of the Winter Olympics
Adams: oh?
Aphrodite: and it included actors playing avatars! I became curious...
Aphrodite: and Googled SL and became hooked immediately!
Adams: :)

I ask what attracts her to PaB

Aphrodite: I was given a whole new community to connect with.
Aphrodite: It had a history, it was well organized, there is a spiritual aspect to it;
Aphrodite: it has interesting things going on (art as Being, etc)
Aphrodite: and it was an opportunity to learn new things.
Aphrodite: Plus, 95% of the people here are really lovely, considerate and smart
Aphrodite: (It's hard to explain to my RL friends)
Adams: Yes RL friends have a hard time understanding SL
Aphrodite: Everyone is on a path, everyone has some form of struggle or search
Adams Rubble nods, yes a richness of backgrounds and interests
Aphrodite: Then I got an opportunity to build on my own plot so I learned more new things!
[Adams: yes
Aphrodite: How to build, etc.
Aphrodite: Got a chance to be creative again and to learn from others.
Aphrodite: Some people like Storm and Bleu, and Bruce have been so helpful
Aphrodite: and patient!
Adams: Yes, they are good about sharing their knowledge
Aphrodite: nods

I ask her about her perspective from being in the Working Group most of her time in PaB

Adams: You bravely took on the role of a working group member only a few months after becoming a guardian. You have served for more than a year now. Please talk about the events and changes in PaB during that time.
Aphrodite: Hmm
Aphrodite: I'm not sure about the changes- change is constant with the arrival and
departure of avis
Aphrodite: The wiki is updated or changed slightly;
Aphrodite: groups come and go
Aphrodite: Right now we are looking at the proposals that were offered by the Vashon Retreat members – that involve updating our wiki.
Aphrodite: We have looked at the PAB budget and tried to keep the donations coming in. I've done a fundraising campaign 3 times now
Adams: Yes, you have done a wonderful job with that
Aphrodite: People are generous once they are reminded of the need
Aphrodite: My most favourite event was our 3rd anniversary in April of 2010
Aphrodite: Everybody participated and came. It was great to see so many people involved
Adams: were you in on the planning of that?

Aphrodite: Yes, I initiated it and then oversaw it
Adams: :)
Aphrodite: with lots and lots of help
Aphrodite: from people like Storm and Sun and Bleu
Aphrodite: Did you attend any of the sessions? It was a 3 day event
Adams: yes I did
Aphrodite: That was a high point for me
Adams: It was a very impressive event
Aphrodite: I'm now organizing a Solstice Party for Perfect Paradise
Aphrodite: So- Changes; hmmm
Adams: There was a Solstice Exhibition and Workshop at the museum two years
ago
Aphrodite: new avatars brought new ideas.
Aphrodite: and new guardians.
Aphrodite: I notice however that fewer and fewer people are taking responsibility for the 1AM sessions and I wonder whether that is an indication of some other trend
Aphrodite: The Working Group will be looking at new Guardian proposals next
week
Adams: The 1 am sessions have always been a bit difficult to schedule
Aphrodite: hopefully some who are from Europe
Adams: There used to be more active European guardians than now
Aphrodite: We have had to deal with the problem of griefers and what to do with them as well as someone who joined our session who was underage
Adams Rubble nods. The latter was a tricky situation and dealt with very sensitively
Aphrodite: It is always hard to find a balance between being a gatekeeper and being a facilitator
Aphrodite: We can't always be "nice"
Aphrodite: It's hard for the Guardian at each session to know what to do

I ask about the effect of the change in the number of members in the working group

Adams: The working group has fewer members than it did the last go around. Does the number of wg members make a difference?
Aphrodite: Yes, we move more quickly and get stuff done more quickly. But we have advisors who come when asked -like Eliza, Bleu and Storm
Aphrodite: A lot of complex stuff gets to be dealt with more easily when there are fewer
Aphrodite: I tried to bring up some complex stuff at the 8AM Guardian meeting but it was impossible
Adams Rubble nods
Aphrodite: So back it came to the WG and to email conversations- which sometimes is the most efficient
Aphrodite: The Retreaters from Vashon Island have come up with a whole bunch of recommendations but it's taking time to go through them

Aphrodite: Because there is not always agreement within the WG and the Guardians about them
Aphrodite: I prefer consensus-based decision making..
Aphrodite: those are all the changes that comes to mind right now

I ask what other question Aphrodite might have asked herself if she were doing the interviewing

Adams: what have I forgotten?

And the question is “What are my plans within PaB?”

Adams: sounds good
Aphrodite: :-)
Aphrodite: I am feeling a bit exhausted right now as I am doing far too many things for PaB and Perfect Paradise
Adams Rubble understands that
Aphrodite: I will have to decide what I will continue with and what to drop
Aphrodite: What gives me the most satisfaction and where I can feel most useful
Aphrodite: Right now I feel a bit like a dictator!
Adams: I think we may be too unruly a group of subjects. hehe
Aphrodite: and I'd prefer to be an artist and play in Art as Being and the Theatre Players
Aphrodite: I'd prefer to be one of the unruly!!
Adams: It's much more fun :)
Aphrodite: absolutely - and no responsibility.
Aphrodite: I have been told that I need to learn how to play more often
Aphrodite: and was reminded that play can be serious too!
Aphrodite: in fact I would like to explore the whole notion of play within Play as Being
Adams: :)
Adams: Our avatars are a convenient way to play at things
Aphrodite: Yes. but I need to figure out what other forms of play I can engage in.
Adams: of course
Aphrodite: using SL
Aphrodite: Onigokko still cracks me up!
Adams: Thank you for sitting down with me for this interview, Aphrodite
Aphrodite: You're welcome Adams