10-12 Dig This
Table of contents
by Calvino Rabeni
(in progress)
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2010.06.10 01:00 - Perceptions of Disability and Relationships
2010.06.10 07:00 - Stars and butterflies
2010.06.10 13:00 - wiki problems, crashing, worldcup, jokes...
Mickorod Renard: I used to spend alot of time on roofs for my work once,,it was fun to see a city from a diferent perspective
Agatha Macbeth: (Ha, i can type one-handed, cool)
Wol Euler raises an eyebrow
Agatha Macbeth: Illogical Captain
arabella Ella: but what keeps me back is that if I take my laptop to be seen to I risk having to spend some days without it ... which I cant bear to think of
Mickorod Renard: what u doin with the other hand?
Wol Euler: huh
Mickorod Renard: dont answer
Agatha Macbeth: Drinking Mick...
Mickorod Renard: phew
Storm Nordwind covers his eyes and ears
2010.06.11 07:00 - Generous Pushing
I would characterize this as a quirky-but-interesting session, which highlights the relative vs. absolute question we eventually touch on, after discussing ideas of time, motion, awareness, dreams, and wu wei.
stevenaia Michinaga: hmmm, I am being called away in RL, brb, jsut ignore my slumpted over avatar :0
Kiki Walpanheim: yes, bleu....i read about the advice on the 90 sec pause and tried
Kiki Walpanheim: ty
Kiki Walpanheim: and it feels good
Bleu Oleander: have you applied it to RL?
Paradise Tennant: smiles ... I find .. I still have to force myself to remember to stop sometimes ..
Paradise Tennant: to breathe .. be aware .. empty out a bit
Paradise Tennant: so easy to become immersed in our whirly gig world :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: nods
Bleu Oleander: :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: now picturing a whirly gig world, and me stading somewhere out of it
SophiaSharon Larnia: stanbding*
SophiaSharon Larnia: lol
Paradise Tennant: smiles
Paradise Tennant: perfect approach to take to whirly gigness ;)
SophiaSharon Larnia: watching it
Paradise Tennant: yes
Paradise Tennant: sometimes the awareness is just observation
SophiaSharon Larnia: even when it doesnt seem as such, at the time
Kiki Walpanheim: sorry was processsing several chats at the same time
Kiki Walpanheim: what was the question?
Paradise Tennant: yes but it brings .. distance
SophiaSharon Larnia: np kiki
Kiki Walpanheim: yes i practiced it in rl
Kiki Walpanheim: but didnt follow the timing exactly
Kiki Walpanheim: but the break and meditation feels good
Paradise Tennant: use to find that if I set my watch to beep it would help remind me
Bleu Oleander: yes
Kiki Walpanheim: i need to go.......
Paradise Tennant: cal did you have anything you wanted to talk about tonight :)
Paradise Tennant: sits on her hands and behaves :)
Calvino Rabeni: heheh
SophiaSharon Larnia contentedly listens to the silence
Paradise Tennant: smiles
Calvino Rabeni: Well after the shocking disappearance of Steve under somewhat irregular circumstances...
Calvino Rabeni: I thought it might be good to turn to something of an upbeat topic...
Calvino Rabeni: A testimonial I recently found in the Blogosphere
Calvino Rabeni: Always good to see some excitement from our readers and listeners, isn't it?
Calvino Rabeni: So recently I came across this:
Calvino Rabeni: ". I've been teetering on the edge of doing more writing, so all this great stuff going on at Play as Being has pushed me over the edge. It feels good ..."
Bleu Oleander: very nice!
2010.06.12 13:00 - Soccer, what else?
As most saturdays lately, it started of quietly, some people coming in late, but this time not really getting busy. So we talked about everything and nothing, with the most interesting thing what football means to us
Bertram Jacobus: i appreciate so much that all here are so kind ...
Darren Islar: so do I :)
Bertram Jacobus: i find that very supporting ...
Wester Kiranov: i agree Bertram Jacobus: and to be here with interesting topics and calm sometimes - so good ! ...
Darren Islar: any topic one of you like to talk about?
Bertram Jacobus: but these ... how are they called vuzuvelas ? these sound trumpets are really ugly aren´t they ? ;o)
arabella Ella: he he
arabella Ella: you honestly think they are ugly?
Bertram Jacobus: because they change the sound in the stadiums so intense
Bertram Jacobus: my beloved patterns ! arabella Ella: makes for more atmosphere
arabella Ella: and one thing i hope with this world cup
arabella Ella: that it will help the ugly ghost of racism to perhaps get lessened
Bertram Jacobus: yess - i think, it´s wonderful for africa
arabella Ella: after all we are all human beings all born the same
Darren Islar: if that would be the result, that surely would be great
arabella Ella: i am just hopeful
arabella Ella: as racism in europe has become very ugly
arabella Ella: well if you see my FB page I found a link between football, art and philosophy which is very interesting :)
Darren Islar: nog very interesting to me though
Zen Arado: see what page?
arabella Ella: let me find it give me a minute pls
Zen Arado: ok sure
Darren Islar: sounds interesting ara
arabella Ella: this is it
arabella Ella: http://www.apexart.org/exhibitions/critchley.htm
arabella Ella: there is an art exhibition in USA called men with balls
arabella Ella: and simon critchley who is a philosopher is curator
Darren Islar: men with balls :))
2010.06.12 19:00 - Witnessing, Playing, and Being
Pema Pera: may I ask, have your tried to take some short few-second breaks, a few times, to see what that was like?
druth Vlodovic: I've checked it out
Pema Pera: do you have any questions, or comments?
druth Vlodovic: I guess that means no all 'round :) have you tried it pema?
In response to Druth's questions, I gave a quick but probably much too terse reply.
Pema Pera: oh sure, I like to take those little breaks -- like meditation for lazy people :-)
Pema Pera: only a few seconds at a time, rather than half an hour or a day ; but what is surprising is that it still works to some extent
Pema Pera: in my own experience, at least, being reminded is half the message
Pema Pera: sitting then for another half hour can be nice, but doesn't seem to be the most central point
Pema Pera: btw, I love the quote in your profile "Coincidentally truth always seems to lie right where we stop looking for it." -- so true (^_^)
druth Vlodovic: :)
Eliza Madrigal: Hi, apologies, here :)
Pema Pera: how did you hit upon that, by experience :-) ?
Pema Pera: wb Eliza!
Eliza Madrigal: ty
--BELL--
druth Vlodovic: seemed logical
Pema Pera: So you're modifying the saying "it was in the last place I looked" by saying "it was in the first place I didn't look" . . . I really like that!
druth Vlodovic: fatigue has created more philosophies... lol
Pema Pera: hahaha, lazy = good, it helps to find shorcuts, and to cut through knots
druth Vlodovic: you said "being reminded is half the message" reminded of what?
Pema Pera: reminded that we tend to get caught up in the story of whatever we are focused on right now
Pema Pera: while paying too little attention to all the beauty around us
Pema Pera: we also tend to inflate our own importance, and the importance of all our little tasks, and a short break can shoot a little hole in that inflation
Pema Pera: we are mesmerized by our little endeavors - I'm speaking from my own experience at least -- and I always appreciate reminders to smell the flowers
Pema Pera: or "to drop what I have to see what I am"
druth Vlodovic: do you tend to look in or out when you do this?
Pema Pera: both, while trying to see whether there is really any difference, there may not be
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Pema Pera: "in" and "out" are labels, ideas, like plastic covers that we put on an expensive sofa before we sit on it
Pema Pera: when I look around me, I see my experience that is offering me the world -- and when I look inside me, I see all the judgments of others that I take so seriously, all the praise and blame, and all the fragility for which I'm trying to use the outside world as a crutch
Pema Pera: it's all so intermingled . . .
After my somewhat complex attempt to show the difficulties separating inner and outer, Eliza gave a more gentle tour guide impression of the 9-sec break.
Eliza Madrigal: sometimes the pause just kind of softens my view... it isnt always that I stop and am quiet... sometimes I'm just relaxing with the same thoughts...
Eliza Madrigal: go from trying to nail them down to letting them roll a bit... :)
Pema Pera: yes, stopping the frantic attempts to hold our story together
Pema Pera: we all play as having (all kind of problems and limitations)
Pema Pera: but we could play as being (part of the Universe, or even all of Being)
Pema Pera: we have the choice, and a little break reminds me not to continue the track of having
Pema Pera: having, carrying, sweating it out, trying to carry the world upon our shoulders .....
--BELL--
Pema Pera: Hi Dre
Dream Wrexan: Of course, this is an ideal for me - not always achievable in the heat of emotion
Pema Pera: yes, that's a wonderful kind of exploration, a real adventure, I'm always amazed when I remind myself to do that
Dream Wrexan: but I'm getting better.
Eliza Madrigal smiles
druth Vlodovic: "the examined life" :)
Dream Wrexan: exactly, druth!
Pema Pera: yes, and that's why we have this "9 seconds break every 15 minutes" as a trick to remind ourselves regularly
And how nice to share this kind of intention among four friends!
Pema Pera: but I'm still curious, if I may: I agree that taking that kind of stance is very illuminating and also practically helpful -- but do you think it is the ultimate solution/approach, or do you think there may still be something else, possibly even more effective?
Dream Wrexan: I'm open to ideas. :-)
Pema Pera: what puzzles me just a bit is the notion of distance, of separation, between the witness and what is witnessed . . .
Pema Pera: can that be the final answer, that that distance remains, or do you think that drops away somehow, somewhen?