13-15 What Makes a Dreamer

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    "A dreamer is one who can only find his way by moonlight, and his punishment is that he sees the dawn before the rest of the world." Oscar Wilde

    La de da de de... la de da de da...

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    Stargate Tone: _/|\_
    Stargate Tone: ah yes; this story...
    Stargate Tone: as the monk went to the master and said;
    Stargate Tone: "when I meditate, I feel sooo bad"
    Stargate Tone: the master said;
    Stargate Tone: "It shall change"
    Stargate Tone: a while after this monk went to the master and said;
    Stargate Tone: "when I meditate, I feel sooo happy"
    Stargate Tone: the master said;
    Stargate Tone: "It shall change"
    Stargate Tone: end of the story
    Darren Islar: :)
    2010.06.13 07:00 - Education, Not Something we Have

    Veronica Pettirosso: what do u do here
    Agatha Macbeth: That is a very good question Veronica, we often ask ourselves the same thing :)

    Eliza Madrigal: Especially when its hard, one can feel they 'finally' figure something out and its time to change :))
    Agatha Macbeth: Yes, understands that
    Adams Rubble: I hated when I graduated from college. I thought it was the end of fun and would have to go to work; no one told me that learning would go on and work could be fun
    Agatha Macbeth: We go on learning and developing throughout our lives
    Agatha Macbeth: There is always something new
    Adams Rubble: Of course I've stayed in the academic world and really haven;t graduated yet :)
    Eliza Madrigal giggles
    Agatha Macbeth grins

    Eliza Madrigal: pernicious idea ... 'this' is a picture of success, worthihood, normality, etc
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh yes, definitely
    Eliza Madrigal: maybe the internet first of all makes it at least 'possible' to get around or undermine that tendency... to poke holes in it (like the 9 seconds ;- )
    Agatha Macbeth: Maybe it's the holes that are interesting! :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Rather than what's around them

    2010.06.13 08:00 - Guardian Session: Tangled Up in Bleu

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    Agatha Macbeth: Stopped into a Pagoda
    Eliza Madrigal: I passed along the way...
    Eliza Madrigal: sat down on a cushion...
    Eliza Madrigal: and I began to play...
    Agatha Macbeth: As Being...
    Zen Arado: in the summer rain .......
    Eliza Madrigal: I think we're gonna stay....
    Agatha Macbeth: PaB dreaming on a wet summer's day

     

     


    2010.06.13 19:00 - The Body In Question, Pt. 1

    Mitzi Mimistrobell: A friend of mine joined the Peace Corps. In their training, they were warned to keep their expctations of accomplishing ANYTHING every low.
    Calvino Rabeni: Calvino Rabeni pours a little red wine into the pool
    Mitzi Mimistrobell: That they probably would not be able to accomplish anything at all that they envisioned.
    Mitzi Mimistrobell: But, if they established a positive connection with a few people, that would be a really good thing and they should be very pleased.

    Mitzi Mimistrobell: There are the eight directions as expressed in Martial Arts? Or is it in native American perspective? - adding "inside" and "outside"
    Calvino Rabeni: When you have design forces of such very different strengths, they tend to segment the conceptual world into areas that are not seen as at all related
    Mitzi Mimistrobell: Are you wanting to explore even additional aspects>
    Calvino Rabeni: Yes, well Inside and Outside are an expression of the somatic structure of a Cell and its enclosing membrane
    Calvino Rabeni: Or on another scale, the Earth and its surface, center, and distant reaches
    Mitzi Mimistrobell: Yes, that's very significant. Self and Other would be one main way that's used psychologically.

    2010.06.14 01:00 - The Body In Question, Pt. 2

    Darren Islar: to me fear is a tension in mostly the upper part of my body
    Darren Islar: that is my known fear
    Darren Islar: the one I can work with
    Calvino Rabeni: http://www.working-well.org/posture.html
    Darren Islar: The unknown fear seems to be placed lower in the body
    Calvino Rabeni: the unknown fear, usually is in the part of the body that one is not aware of

    2010.06.14 07:00 - Having one's own greek chorus

    Eden Haiku: having fond memories of my uncle's farm when I was a kid.
    Eden Haiku: Was a worshipper of cows even then...Their eyes are so quiet...

    Eden Haiku: Loves the mist in the pond
    Eden Haiku: On my first PaB session, Mick told me that we meditated when the mist appeared
    so I was concentrating real hard not to miss it ;))

    Eden Haiku: Picturing myself laying on the moss with my cat and iPad.
    Eliza Madrigal: haha... paintings of our time will have computers and cell phones....
    "girl lounging in hammock with ipod..."


    Eden Haiku: It is not only funny it is also very beautiful Bleu with your avatars in blue playing maracas, it is gorgeous!
    Bleu Oleander: it's like having my own greek chorus!

     

     

    2010.06.15 07:00 - a Lei in Time

    Riddle Sideways: I am alive... http://riddell-kaufman.com/
    Riddle Sideways: a sample of what I did over weekend
    Riddle Sideways: pushed out of a perfectly good plane
    Riddle Sideways: not sure it was a birthday present to myself
    Riddle Sideways: was not on the checklist of what to get done once before death
    Riddle Sideways: skydiving is not really like flying

    Yakuzza Lethecus wonders if checklists are any good
    Riddle Sideways: checklists are probably bad

    Riddle Sideways: a song from my youth said "I was so much older then, I'm younger then that now"

    Riddle Sideways: you perceive them to not have morals
    Riddle Sideways: so you slap your morals set into them
    Riddle Sideways: enforcing your will is not any better then those who force their will upon you

    Yakuzza Lethecus: so is it not morally correct to teach moral ?

    Riddle Sideways: offering an open classroom
    Riddle Sideways: where some can come in and sample your teaching, preaching, examples, etc.
    Riddle Sideways: they are free to come and go
    Riddle Sideways: you will not see immediate results
    Riddle Sideways: years later, I might
    Riddle Sideways: I might see you were right
    Riddle Sideways: you might have changed my life
    Riddle Sideways: you made a difference
    Riddle Sideways: but, I think you will not know that
    Riddle Sideways: not sure if Wester will know that the simple Lei made a difference
    Riddle Sideways: not sure if telling you of skydiving makes any difference

    2010.06.15 13:00 - Popper don't preach...

    Agatha Macbeth: You seem the type to be a dreamer to me Bert ;-)
    Bertram Jacobus: why do you think that agatha ? :-)
    Agatha Macbeth: Just a hunch
    Agatha Macbeth: As Quasimodo said
    Wol Euler sighs
    Bertram Jacobus: hm - what may make a dreamer, what are the qualities ?
    Agatha Macbeth: Dreaming?
    Agatha Macbeth: :)
    Bertram Jacobus: and why does wol sigh (?!) :-)
    Wol Euler: asking questions
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh she does that all the time
    Wol Euler: it's true
    Wol Euler: but particularly when Aggers is airing out her old joke cupboard :-P
    Bertram Jacobus: what is true ? that dreamers ask questions ?
    Agatha Macbeth: Hehe
    SophiaSharon Larnia: to say somene is a dreamer, may say someone is someone is an idealist, I'm not saying thats what Agatha meant about you, Bert, but in general
    Agatha Macbeth: Do they?
    Agatha Macbeth: 'You may say I'm a dreamer'
    SophiaSharon Larnia: um that came out funny sorry
    Agatha Macbeth: But I'm not the only one
    Myna Maven: Over the years, I've a few times been confronted (I think, somewhat scornfully) with the phrase, "Oh, an idealist!"
    Myna Maven: I recollect the first time, how odd that seeemed.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: or a dreamer could be someone looking at only certain aspects of reality
    Agatha Macbeth: Maybe it's considered a crime to have ideas
    Wol Euler: yeah
    Agatha Macbeth: True Shaz, yes
    Bleu Oleander: aspects of reality .... interesting phrase
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yea awkward again, considering, what is reality anyway
    Agatha Macbeth thinks of the phrase 'can of worms'
    --BELL--
    Bleu Oleander: saved by bell
    2010.06.15 19:00 - Just Playing

    Eos Amaterasu: thinking of watching babies recently.... learning to be through play
    Eliza Madrigal: at Alia, Eos? do people bring children?
    Eos Amaterasu: oh, on plane flight recently from London to Halifax, but also at ALIA, there were a couple of babies and other children
    Eos Amaterasu: arms and hands moving, face and eyes moving
    Eliza Madrigal: a baby's eyes seem to bring one directly to Being
    Eliza Madrigal: just make everything else kind of fade for a moment
    Eos Amaterasu: there's a kind of startled quality, almost "you're kidding me"
    Eliza Madrigal: as though there is an else, I know... Still, there is an instantaneous kind of something
    Eliza Madrigal: Kidding me? hehe
    Eos Amaterasu wonders if there is an else
    Paradise Tennant: like "I remember where I was before I got here .. but boy this is kind of weird :)
    Eliza Madrigal: :)))
    Paradise Tennant: then >> the explosion of joy at the whole appearance of toes !
    Eos Amaterasu: maybe it's the basic epoché?
    Paradise Tennant: like are they not just the greatest things
    Eliza Madrigal: Oh, yes toes!
    Eliza Madrigal considering
    Eos Amaterasu: also the sensory/motor circuits are closing, and learning to open close; like, "I can make my toes appear"
     

    Yet it is in our idleness, in our dreams, that the submerged truth sometimes comes to the top.

    - Virginia Woolf

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