The Guardian for this meeting was Adams Rubble. The comments are by Adams Rubble.

Adams Rubble: Good morning Riddle :)
Riddle Sideways: Good Morning Adams ㋡
Riddle Sideways: had a little crash on the way to the Pavillion
Adams Rubble: yes, I saw. I hope everything is stable
Riddle Sideways: thought had figured out how to simple down the viewer to allow using the good keyboarded computer
Riddle Sideways: but no

Lectio Divina

Adams Rubble: When you said that my voice was silent in the last session, I realized I never had introduced Lectio Divina in the session
Adams Rubble: It is a Medieval practice that is becoming popular in the Roman Catholic Church
Riddle Sideways: yes
Adams Rubble: It has four steps: Reading, Meditation, Prayer and Contemplation
Riddle Sideways: lag
Adams Rubble: I have been using it as an exercise in my blog
Adams Rubble: that was the background for last session
Riddle Sideways: it would be nice to the reader to know if they were not following along in the blog

Job and the Voice of God

Adams Rubble: I would like to ask you about something else
Riddle Sideways: a test !
Adams Rubble: Background: In reading Meister Eckhardt I realized that when he was talking about the devil he was talking about our monkey monds to put it simply
Adams Rubble: Last night I pondered about the voice of God. I haven't blogged about that yet but concluded it would be spoken out of a place of Love and Cpmpassion
Adams Rubble: That led me to (wait for it)
Adams Rubble: The story of Job
Adams Rubble: I opened to the Book of Job but have not yet had the chance to reread it
Adams Rubble: That is my question for you to start off the theme of the Story of Job
Adams Rubble: Can it be a metaphor for what is going on in our minds?
Adams Rubble: The devil torments Job with awful actual things that are too too terrible
Adams Rubble: kills his wife children
Adams Rubble: takes away all his earthly possessions
Riddle Sideways: devil and angel, do seem to be metaphor for arguements inside out minds
Adams Rubble: while God just watches and lets the devil do it
Adams Rubble: first, does the story of Job come up in any of the readings during the year?
--BELL--
Riddle Sideways: the Book of Job is off in the extra readings part
Adams Rubble: it is one of those powerful stories
Riddle Sideways: and does not usually get read each year
Adams Rubble: OK, thank you
Riddle Sideways: it gets into many sermons and seems like the story gets used a couple times each year
Riddle Sideways: There is just not much mention of Satan or the concept
Adams Rubble: Like the story of Abraham and Isaac in that it makes one wonder why God is doing this
Riddle Sideways: there is several testings in the Bible tho
Riddle Sideways: and some Fails
Riddle Sideways: some hole open up in the desert and swallow whole families that did bad
Riddle Sideways: holes
Adams Rubble: don't look back on Sodom (or salt you)
Riddle Sideways: Jonah tries to go the wrong direction and a fish swallows him and spits him out on the country he was supposed to go to
Adams Rubble nods. The lesson about callings
Riddle Sideways: yep
Adams Rubble: I was thinking of Jonah this past week
Riddle Sideways: the story of Job is interesting. and how it has been latched onto by later stories
Riddle Sideways: think Satan was one of the angel that sat around with G-d talking when there was no bidding to do
Riddle Sideways: and never gets mentioned again after that Job debate
Riddle Sideways: funny how whole big religions have grow up on the split of good-evil
Adams Rubble: dualism
Riddle Sideways: yep
Adams Rubble: the tree in the Garden of Eden was the tree of knowledge of Good and Evil
Riddle Sideways: and "ya better be good, for goodness sake"
Adams Rubble: I was thinking of the Story of Job in lines with it all happening in Job's mind. What would that mean?
Adams Rubble: no killing of wife and children
Adams Rubble: no destroying of cattle, farm and house
Riddle Sideways: Kind of a Dickens Christmas Carol
Adams Rubble: but the need to llet go of earthly possessions
Riddle Sideways: dreamed it
--BELL--
Riddle Sideways: in that Jonah story. He does go to Gramora and tells them to stop their Bad ways
Riddle Sideways: and they hear it and straighten up
Adams Rubble: yes, but I thinking of Job as an everyman
Adams Rubble: it could happen in our mind
Adams Rubble: what is the voice of the devil and the voice of God in our mind?
Riddle Sideways: yes, every person probably should read Job as 'that could be me'
Adams Rubble: Meister Eckhardt says that God only enters into us when we let go of everything
Riddle Sideways: thinking G-d enters us when we loosely grasp EveryThing
Adams Rubble: It is only after Job has lost everything that God comes to him
Adams Rubble: do I have that right?
Riddle Sideways: yes
Riddle Sideways: G-d let Satan run with the experiment-experience
Adams Rubble: I looked quickly at the Book of Job this morning and it is more complicated than the story in my head. Three other characters that have a dialogue with Job throughout the ordeal
Riddle Sideways listens because can't remember those characters
Adams Rubble: I will read it closely sometime today/tonight
Adams Rubble: Maybe my next exercise--the entire Book of Job :)
Adams Rubble: sometimes I know I am a crazy person :)
Riddle Sideways: being such advanced Modern people now, we can think this was all in Job's mind
Riddle Sideways: And that it was Just A Story
Riddle Sideways: written as if it had happened
Adams Rubble: well actually we want to explore what was the author's intention
Riddle Sideways: and when read, the author's intent gets All of us
Adams Rubble: what did the writer see in his mind?
Riddle Sideways: we relive it ourselves and what if it were me
Riddle Sideways: many take that right turn to ask who the author(s) were
Riddle Sideways: and analyze the writing styles
Adams Rubble: yes, interesting stuff but not to our point
Adams Rubble: I am exploring what it means to hear God's voice
Riddle Sideways: yep! not the point
Adams Rubble: Be still and know that I am God
Riddle Sideways: comes in many styles of voice
--BELL--
Riddle Sideways: the small still voice
Riddle Sideways: the voice that is always there
Riddle Sideways: could be the Booming voice that yells for you not to go the wrong way up that one-way road
Adams Rubble: Hmmm, the back seat driver?
Riddle Sideways: could be the sweet smell of the rose
Adams Rubble: yes, when we are still
Riddle Sideways: many think of G-d as their co-pilot ㋡
Riddle Sideways: maybe ... that small place where Great Time and Great Space and Great Knowledge and Great Wisdom meet and are One
Riddle Sideways: Like the "Big Bang" must have make a mighty noise, but there is no sound in the void
Riddle Sideways: the echoes of the Big Band are still here, but very quiet
Adams Rubble: before there was a mind
Riddle Sideways: or the start of A Mind
Riddle Sideways: In A Beginning
Riddle Sideways: there was darkness
Riddle Sideways: a story to tell
Adams Rubble: :)
Riddle Sideways: What if You were Job? Would you be that good?
Adams Rubble: that gets to my exercise last night that is still befuddling me :)
Adams Rubble: not that, the previous statements :)
Riddle Sideways: Well, from reading this morning, it seems you did two reaadings and mashed them up
Adams Rubble: Well, if I were a rich Job.....
Adams Rubble: I have not yet blogged today, that was yesterday :)
Adams Rubble: but back to Job
Riddle Sideways: the stuff that refuses sleep
Adams Rubble: If I were a ricj Job, I would probably not be strugglihng with the question of whether to curse God but would hopelly be appreciating appearances
Adams Rubble: Would I be wise enough to let things go?
Riddle Sideways: singing 'If I were a rich Job, da da dah di da da da"
Adams Rubble: I would be complaining about the boils and being cut with sharp stones
Adams Rubble: I am a complainer
Adams Rubble: calling the doctor
Adams Rubble: do something about these boils
Adams Rubble: :)
Riddle Sideways: read the story and know we would not be worthy
Adams Rubble: lots of band aids
Riddle Sideways: lots of complaining
Riddle Sideways: whining
Riddle Sideways: and Lot had troubles too
Adams Rubble: lot of troubles
Adams Rubble: seriously, when terrible things happen we begin to focus on the important things
Riddle Sideways: funny that nobody really says out loud that Job sounds like job
Riddle Sideways: yes
Adams Rubble giggles
Adams Rubble: another meaning of get a job
Riddle Sideways: Job this is your job
Riddle Sideways: When Bad things happen to Good people
Adams Rubble: Job runs away from the calling
--BELL--
Adams Rubble: Is that the message we want to take from the story
Adams Rubble: is it a test?
Riddle Sideways: One always wonders what they would do
Riddle Sideways: if tested
Adams Rubble: or is it a metaphor for discerning the source of the messages from our mind?
Adams Rubble: a much softer message
Riddle Sideways: and is there a devil-monkey in our mind speaking loudly
Adams Rubble: on tests, you had one last summer
Adams Rubble: and all year with Covid
Riddle Sideways: which Voices in your head should you listen to
Adams Rubble: ahh, discerning which voices are which :)
Riddle Sideways: how to decide
Adams Rubble: back to my hypothesis that the voice that is speaking from a p[lace of love and compassion is the one coming from God
Riddle Sideways: a good working hypothesis
Riddle Sideways: that nagging wonder of how sweetly the serpent's voice was in the garden
Adams Rubble: maybe the voice in the story of Job was always there but Job could not hear it until he let go of everything
Riddle Sideways: think that is one of the main points
Riddle Sideways: let go and you shall be free
Adams Rubble: so not about a test
Riddle Sideways: welllllll, more than one way to read it and many lessons in one story
Adams Rubble: I can agree with that :)))
Adams Rubble: we look for the story that speaks to what we are seeking
Riddle Sideways: read it again next year and get something differant
Riddle Sideways: from your current Point of View ... you can see clearly now (or not)
Riddle Sideways: change that point of view and see things differently
Riddle Sideways: this is good stuff, but RL just yelled down
Riddle Sideways: to wake up
Adams Rubble: "For now we see in a mirror, dimly, but then we will see face to face. Now I know only in part; then I will know fully, even as I have been fully known."
Adams Rubble: from I Corinthians 13
Adams Rubble: thank you for your presence this morning :)
Adams Rubble: I think you have been very awake :)
Riddle Sideways: ㋡
Riddle Sideways: Thank you
Adams Rubble: I hope you have a great weekend
Adams Rubble: take good care
Riddle Sideways: by All
Adams Rubble: bye for now