2019.11.12 07:00 - Darn Humans

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Riddle Sideways. The comments are by Riddle Sideways.

    Riddle Sideways: Welcome Adams
    Adams Rubble: Good morning Riddle :)
    Riddle Sideways: Howz it goin taday


    Adams Rubble: good, we are back from a weekend trip
    Riddle Sideways: So are we
    Adams Rubble: so good to get away from the things stressing us and looking at nature
    Riddle Sideways: Trip reports
    Adams Rubble: I read a novel and started a second
    Adams Rubble: No-No Boy by John Okada
    Adams Rubble: do you know nit?
    Adams Rubble: it
    Riddle Sideways: nope
    Adams Rubble: It is now being called the great japanese-American Novel
          --BELL--
    Adams Rubble: the author served in WW2 after being in internment camps
    Adams Rubble: the novel was mostly unknown and unloved until found in the the 1980s
    Adams Rubble: when the US givernemnt relized it had made a mistake with the internment camps and was looking for a way out it asked every army age male two questions
    Adams Rubble: would you serve in the USarmy and 2) would you swear allegiance to the US
    Adams Rubble: those who answered no to both questions were put in prision
    Adams Rubble: there were many reasons to answer no after being in the internment camps for 2 years
    Adams Rubble: some wanted their famies released if they served
    Adams Rubble: in any case those who went to prison were released after the war and were ostracized by all, especially the Japanese who did serve
    Adams Rubble: the book explores so many thngs mostly a group under immense pressure and change
    Adams Rubble: much of it, the generations not understanding each other
    Adams Rubble: it is a very moving book
    Adams Rubble: takes place mostly in Seattle
    Adams Rubble: people trying to be American when people see them as Japanese
    Riddle Sideways: hmmm tough subject
    Adams Rubble: younger people more American; older people more ties to japan

    Adams Rubble: some of it reminded me of the Beat writers
    Adams Rubble: there is a reckless rebellion
    Riddle Sideways: written in 1957 which was that era
    Adams Rubble: ahhm, you have been googling while I was pontificating
    Riddle Sideways: did no-no boy serve in military? Google summaries sound like imprisoned
    Adams Rubble: yes in prison
    Adams Rubble: the author served in military
    Riddle Sideways: there is maybe the confusion


    Adams Rubble: for the past few weeks I have only been getting things half done
    Adams Rubble: starting things, making great progress, then stoppping to do something else
    Riddle Sideways: now finishing things, like a book
    Adams Rubble: nice to start and finish a novel
    Adams Rubble: not like a Dickens novel though
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Adams Rubble: now reading James Baldwin's "If Beale Street Could talk"
    Riddle Sideways: oh there would be stories on Beale

    Adams Rubble: how was your weekend?
    Riddle Sideways: a wonderful weekend
    Riddle Sideways: go to Bay Area and have loads of fun at a Baby Shower
    Riddle Sideways: somebody holding up a 3-6 month onesie and the whole crowd going "Awwwwwww"
    Riddle Sideways: the many generations listing off what the practice was in 'Their Day'
    Riddle Sideways: the evil rocker-bed thing that has been recalled
          --BELL--
    Riddle Sideways: also to the Oakland museum, exhibit on Burning Man. Trying to get the experience across in 4 rooms
    Riddle Sideways: if that exhibit sort of missed getting it across? what does that say of other exhibits?
    Riddle Sideways: of course any is better than not going or having any exhibit/education at all
    Adams Rubble: every exhibit has human being(s) behind it
    Riddle Sideways: darn humans
    Adams Rubble: some work very hard on exhibitions and get them half done
    Riddle Sideways: wait, wait, no personal interjections here :)


    Riddle Sideways: Stayed with some long ago friends
    Riddle Sideways: caught up on their lives
    Riddle Sideways: have stayed there before, but not connected as well
    Riddle Sideways: got down to some very thoughtful stuff
    Riddle Sideways: has been a Juvenal judge for many years
    Riddle Sideways: nearing retirement
    Riddle Sideways: and has so many examples of how a strict written exact law and punishment system can be swayed by a judge
    Riddle Sideways: that a judge has Feelings about what is going on
    Riddle Sideways: and adjusts the rulings
    Riddle Sideways: also many opinions on current reform ideas
    Riddle Sideways: how many adolescents just don't have the frontal lobe developed enough
    Riddle Sideways: to even start thinking of how their actions are hurting others
    Riddle Sideways: others that just got caught up in the wrong place and actions
          --BELL--
    Riddle Sideways: not quite the kind that need to have their lives ruined by being locked away
    Adams Rubble: or with the wrong sklin color
    Riddle Sideways: yes, she did talk of the dis-appropriate ratios of skin color to population
    Riddle Sideways: that come before her
    Riddle Sideways: and the gang members she sees
    Riddle Sideways: some are gang leaders and some are just have to be a member or there is trouble
    Riddle Sideways: darn humans
    Riddle Sideways: growing pains

    Riddle Sideways: also was playing with a 14month old
    Riddle Sideways: that was not really walking yet

    Riddle Sideways: however, kept taking 3-4 steps over to my arms
    Riddle Sideways: a great weekend for eating, dining, snacking, wine, cheese, buffet
    Riddle Sideways: and gaining 4 pounds
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Riddle Sideways: taste testing all the Gutten-free things
    Adams Rubble: mine was walking, wal;king, walking and losing a couple pounds :)
    Riddle Sideways: you win
    Adams Rubble chortles
    Adams Rubble: it is good to break the routine

    Riddle Sideways: hard to get the idea that this is Tuesday
    Riddle Sideways: feels Monday
          --BELL--
    Riddle Sideways: did you take lots of photos?
    Adams Rubble: yes
    Riddle Sideways: the fall leaves colors are gone by now
    Adams Rubble: o
    Adams Rubble: no
    Riddle Sideways: good
    Adams Rubble: not here
    Adams Rubble: but we are getting a cold spell
    Adams Rubble: will be 21 tonight
    Adams Rubble: high of 35 tomorrow
    Riddle Sideways: brrrr
    Adams Rubble: yes, went outside to disconnect the hose and turn off water and my hands were burning from wet cold
    Riddle Sideways: hate that
    Adams Rubble: long time since I felt that
    Riddle Sideways: cycling back around
    Riddle Sideways: remember when it was sooooo hot

    Adams Rubble needs to cycle to store after session
    Adams Rubble: brrrr
    Riddle Sideways: heard story of 86(?)year old man that just marked going Over 1 million miles on bicycle
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Adams Rubble: I can't count that high
    Riddle Sideways: nope
    Riddle Sideways: why was that so hard link to find: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ion-miles.html
          --BELL--
    Riddle Sideways: phone.
    Adams Rubble: need to be good at fixing
    Riddle Sideways: now, friend has called. this will be some time.
    Adams Rubble: OK, see you Thursday then
    Riddle Sideways: have your best day
    Adams Rubble: bye
    Riddle Sideways: see ya

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