2020.04.08 13:00 - Days of Daze

The Guardian for this meeting was Eliza Madrigal. The comments are by Eden Haiku. 

A great turnout

Wol Euler: I'd be crazy to have coffee at 10 m
Wol Euler: pm
Eliza Madrigal: I'm laughing at myself because I've forgotten how to send notices
Wol Euler giggles.
Aphrodite Macbain: 's current display-name is "Aph".
Catrinamonblue Resident: 's current display-name is "Catrinamonblue".
Eliza Madrigal: I'm having tea as well right now... "immortalitea"
Wol Euler: interesting name
Eliza Madrigal: It is very green, but healthy
Wol Euler: hello cat
Wol Euler: hello aph
Catrinamonblue Resident: Hi :) trying to remember how this all works lol :)
Aphrodite Macbain: Hello!
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Catrina, Hi Aph :)
Eliza Madrigal: So funny Cat... was just saying the same thing
Eliza Madrigal: I've forgotten how to send inworld notes
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Mick :)
Aphrodite Macbain:I suppose there is one good thing about this pandemic. It brings us together again :)
Eliza Madrigal: silver linings
Mickorod Renard: hello
Wol Euler: chat window, click on "contacts", go to the group tab, click once on PaB, click on I;/Call
Wol Euler: or did you mean a permanent notice that people will get whenever they happen to log on?
Aphrodite Macbain: lol we are all spaced 2 metres apart
Wol Euler: permanent-ish
Wol Euler: ha, yes :)
Mickorod Renard: cant say I can remember how to operate my avi now
Eliza Madrigal: I meant inworld notices, rather than IMs...
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Eden :)
Eliza Madrigal: So funny.... we're newbies again
Eliza Madrigal: but better dressed
Wol Euler: then as I started, but after clicking once on the group, click on Info
Wol Euler: and the Notices tab
Aphrodite Macbain: Is it slow rezzing for others?
Eliza Madrigal: thank you Wol
Wol Euler: yw :)
Mickorod Renard: yes, real bad for me
Aphrodite Macbain: most is grey
Wol Euler: it was slow when I got here, but fine now
Eden Haiku: Hello Eliza, Cat, Mick, Wol, Aph
Aphrodite Macbain: It takes longer to rez. There must be lots more logged in
Mickorod Renard: Hi Eden
Aphrodite Macbain: Hiya Eden
Eliza Madrigal: I'm trying to catch my breath too, because I've just joined the ranks of the unemployed :/
Catrinamonblue Resident: Hi Eden :)
Wol Euler: oh boo :(
Eliza Madrigal: moments before signing on.... conference call at least
Wol Euler: I'm sorry to hear that, eliza
Eden Haiku: Oh sorry to hear Eliza :(
Wol Euler: bastards :(
Catrinamonblue Resident: it's tough Eliza :( sorry to hear that.
Aphrodite Macbain: I'm so sorry Eliza
Santoshima Resident: 's current display-name is "San".
Eliza Madrigal: I knew some form of it would have to happen
Eliza Madrigal: so now at least I can see about unemployment
Eliza Madrigal: Still, odd feeling
Eliza Madrigal: Have never had that experience
Almadi Masala: 's current display-name is "Alma di Masala".
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Alma!
Santoshima Resident: what happened?
Eliza Madrigal: Hi San :)
Almadi Masala: hi everyone
Santoshima Resident: hello!
Eden Haiku: My avatar complexity might be the source of the slow rezzing. Will let go of some of m y clothes :)
Wol Euler: hello alma
Catrinamonblue Resident: I've lost 50% of my income, no help for me as yet... Canadian gov't trying to get those who lost all income first but still tough
Eliza Madrigal: just received call regarding furlough
Mickorod Renard: Hi Alma
Eden Haiku: Hi Alma :)
Eliza Madrigal: Hope that comes soon for you Cat. I'd feel in much safer governmental hands if I were in Canada atm :)
Wol Euler: I'm sorry to have to say that I agree with that
Catrinamonblue Resident: thanks :) I'm ok for a few months, had some rainy day money stashed
Eliza Madrigal: who wants to adopt me?

--BELL--

Wol Euler: <3
Eliza Madrigal: Ah, good, Cat.
Mickorod Renard: I would but we are all gonna die over here so best not
Catrinamonblue Resident: I would adopt you in a heart beat Eliza :)
Eliza Madrigal: thanks, Mick
Eliza Madrigal smiles
Eliza Madrigal: love you guys, thanks
Mickorod Renard: :)
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Eliza Madrigal: Okay... so shall we give a few minutes so that hopefully those who didn't remember will see the notice?
Wol Euler: hello san, riddle
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Riddle :)
Bruce Mowbray: 's current display-name is "Bruce".
Santoshima Resident: hello to everyone :)
Wol Euler:filling up nicely :)
Wol Euler: hello bruce
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Bruce :)
Catrinamonblue Resident: Hi Riddle, San :) and Bruce :)
Wol Euler:has anyone seen Aggers lately?
Riddle Sideways: hi All
Eden Haiku: Hi Riddle, hello Bruce :)
Aphrodite Macbain: no!
Wol Euler: she isn't responding on any of the usual channels
Eliza Madrigal: I was thinking about Agatha.. haven't, but then I know she does seasonal work sometimes
Eden Haiku: HI San:)
Eliza Madrigal: maybe now it is busy for her
arabella Ella: Hi everyone!
Mickorod Renard: Hi everyone that just turned up
Aphrodite Macbain: what a great turnout!
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Ara :)
Riddle Sideways: hi ara
Wol Euler: yes very likely it is, that's true
Santoshima Resident: hi Arabella :)
Bleu Oleander: 's current display-name is "Bleu".
Wol Euler: hello stevie, ara, bleu
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Bleu :)
Bleu Oleander: hi everyone!!
Eden Haiku: Hello Arabella and .Bleu
stevenaia Michinaga: Greetings and Happy Passover
Eliza Madrigal: What a gorgeous circle
Lucinda Lavender: 's current display-name is "Luci".
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Luci :)
Eden Haiku: Hi Luci
Riddle Sideways: hi Bleu and Cinda
Bleu Oleander: how great to see you all !!

It only takes a pandemic

Santoshima Resident:it only takes a pandemic to get us here at the same hour
Eliza Madrigal: hahaha
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Bleu Oleander: hahaha
Lucinda Lavender: :))
Riddle Sideways: if you send an email they will come
Lucinda Lavender: HI to all!
arabella Ella: lovely to see everyone here!
Eliza Madrigal grins
Wol Euler: chag Pesach samech
Riddle Sideways: ty
stevenaia Michinaga: normally we would all be at work, now we are only supposed to be at works
Wol Euler: yeah, it took a pandemic for me not to be in the office at this time :/
Bleu Oleander: lol Steve
Eden Haiku: Hi Stevie :0
Riddle Sideways: been doing so many video meetings and calls that caught self checking hair and camera angle
Lucinda Lavender: Feels like old friends
Eliza Madrigal: hah, brush teeth before signing in
Wol Euler: heheheh
Bleu Oleander: yes our video selves!
stevenaia Michinaga: lol, Riddle, who has RL hair
Wol Euler: one nice feature of Skype, which we use for office videoconference, is that it lets you blur the picture background
Aphrodite Macbain: zoom is good too
Wol Euler: which saves a bit of tidying and/or embarrassment
Eliza Madrigal: Ohhh, need that
stevenaia Michinaga: magic
arabella Ella: oh Wol I'll have to learn how to do that on Skype!
Riddle Sideways: Zoom can add green screen images
Lucinda Lavender: I created a little zoom spot for joining with children...It was the couch with lights behind and pillows and stuffed animals lined up
arabella Ella: Zoom allows you to insert a picture of your choice as background
Wol Euler: nice :)
Bleu Oleander: Zoom has a lot of security issues atm
Eliza Madrigal: sweet, Luci
Wol Euler: yes, be careful what you click!
Bleu Oleander: seems porno hackers are getting in
Lucinda Lavender: the children were so glad to see their friends
Eden Haiku: Nice :)
Lucinda Lavender: yuck
arabella Ella: Zoom is safe if you add a meeting password
Riddle Sideways: Just don't re-use the same publish known zoom link over and over
Eliza Madrigal nods
Eliza Madrigal: was given a new link and pw by therapist this morning
Wol Euler: put pressure on the Zoom meeting organizers to tell you what measures they are taking to ensure the group security
Lucinda Lavender: :)

Handling the uncertainty of time

Eliza Madrigal: I hope everyone is handling the uncertainty of the time relatively well, keeping safe and able to do 'all the things' needed?
arabella Ella: it is a steep learning curve!
Lucinda Lavender: spring helps I think
Wol Euler: to be honest I am really struggling.
Eden Haiku: Slowly adapting yes...
Almadi Masala: I am so sick of washing my hands
Catrinamonblue Resident: hugs Wol
Lucinda Lavender: what part wol
Eden Haiku: Dry hands anyone?
Riddle Sideways: was just out walking enjoying the spring Lupins
Mickorod Renard: yeh
arabella Ella: I could really do with a RL hug!
Wol Euler: I have gone several days without changing out of pyjamas, because I just don't have the spare soul capacity to think about clothes
Eliza Madrigal: definitely dry hands
Riddle Sideways: Yes! Ara
stevenaia Michinaga: uncertainty of the time... I went to the exhibit yesterday and was wondering where everyone was
Mickorod Renard: can you order some by mail Wol?
Eliza Madrigal: Oh, Wol, yes I get that... some kind of external structure needed
Wol Euler: I have plenty, I just can't bear the thought of having to choose some and put them on
Eden Haiku: Organizing food deliveries and desinfecting groceries is quite a challenge...
Mickorod Renard: ah yes,
Riddle Sideways: Howdee Adams ㋡
Santoshima Resident: hello Adams :)
Eliza Madrigal: food and everything related to its prep has become quite strange, nods
Wol Euler: hello adams
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Adams :)
Aphrodite Macbain: hi adams
Lucinda Lavender: This seems like a time for creating some ceremonialness. lighting a candle( which I never do) and creating little areas that mean certain things.
Adams Rubble: hello Everybody :)
Eliza Madrigal: What a nice idea Luci
Adams Rubble: Not used to seeing so many avatars here
stevenaia Michinaga: Waves to Adams
Bleu Oleander: hi Adams!
Eden Haiku: Hello Adams :)
Eliza Madrigal: I guess this is a little place created, too
Lucinda Lavender: it is helping me to focus on my different tasks
Wol Euler:I'm going to put some incense on, if anyone else feels like joining in?
Riddle Sideways: only one cushion left
Bleu Oleander: yes!
Eden Haiku: Yes!
stevenaia Michinaga: tea for me
Eliza Madrigal smiles... settling in
Lucinda Lavender: tea for me too
Eden Haiku: Let’s do that. I will light a blue champa stick :)
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)

Wester’s question

Eliza Madrigal: Had hoped to see Wester again today, since it is her question we're beginning with
Lucinda Lavender: one of the biggest changes for me and my husband is the creating of a weekly shopping list:)
arabella Ella: why is that a challenge Luci?
Lucinda Lavender: There is so much freedom in not having to go every day which is whqaqt we always did
arabella Ella: ah ok
Eliza Madrigal: things we do all the time without thinking, now we are spending so much time with
Lucinda Lavender: we are procrastinators I guess
Wol Euler nods.
Bleu Oleander: buying for weeks rather than days is more challenging for us too Luci
Eden Haiku: All our ways of doing things are changing...
Lucinda Lavender: i experience freedom now:)
Wol Euler: in what sense?
Wol Euler: freedom from shopping?
arabella Ella: yes in what sense?
arabella Ella: for many freedom has been curtailed
arabella Ella: due to lockdowns
Bleu Oleander: for me, a more creative time
Lucinda Lavender: yes! from shopping. and getting in the car, and diverting myself by going to the second hand store:)
Mickorod Renard: I have freedom to finish all the unfinnished jobs around the house
Eliza Madrigal:some silver linings
Bleu Oleander: being creative with less forces you think differently
Eden Haiku: In Quebec, the Prime Minister told us today we will have to maintain a social distance of 6 feet for MONTHS...

--BELL--

Wol Euler: it's true
Wol Euler:nobody wants to talk about that
Lucinda Lavender: new and different style for me
arabella Ella: Eden we have been keeping social distance for nearly a month
Eliza Madrigal: this will change our world and thinking forever
Aphrodite Macbain: hard to imagine
Catrinamonblue Resident: I have time to breathe again, I was already in the process of letting some work go and now 2 more are closed. I am greatful for the time to find myself again.
Lucinda Lavender: yes!
Bleu Oleander: for me too
Eden Haiku: Yes, we have already too Ara, for one month. We never realized it could be till next Fall, till next Winter...
Aphrodite Macbain: I'm getting a lot of things done that I hae procrastinated doing, including painting
Bleu Oleander: the challenge is to stay socially close but not physically close
Lucinda Lavender: like second life
Aphrodite Macbain: Yes- I talk to friends every day - on the phone and on Zoom
Almadi Masala:those of us in SL have a head start on knowing how to be socially connected while physically distant
Wol Euler smiles.
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Eliza Madrigal: yes
Mickorod Renard: I didnt really work so I am just as busy as I was..but now I cant go out it pins me down. not playing tennis is killing me
Lucinda Lavender: sow true
Bleu Oleander: yes
Aphrodite Macbain:it requires learning new things, new technologies
Riddle Sideways: yes, talking to relatives that never wanted to talk with
Aphrodite Macbain: lol
Lucinda Lavender: ha.. my typing may improve with this
Wol Euler: awwwww
Mickorod Renard: yeh, I have discovered that my brother and sisters exist
Eden Haiku: I had two poetry readings net Summer that aren't cancelled yet but probably will. Not even sure we will be able to move into the Summer house. For now, going to one area to another one is not permitted.
Aphrodite Macbain: I like the idea of a summerhouse Eden
Riddle Sideways: oh dear, Eden. The Rock and deer would miss you
Bleu Oleander: we have a few friends who can't go to summer homes this year so it will be nice to have them around
Catrinamonblue Resident: It's a bit funny for me as I have been mainly working from home for several years now and so there is not much different in my life, I prefer to stay home to begin with.
Bleu Oleander: we work at home too, but its knowing you have to stay home LOL
Aphrodite Macbain: I have a new home so I am constantly sorting, and rearranging
Riddle Sideways: right Cat, this is just more of the same ol
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Aphrodite Macbain: buying plants

The moon

Bleu Oleander: what are we all reading or watching?
Eliza Madrigal: it IS different, plus, the buffer of everyone 'else' being out working, is gone :)
Mickorod Renard: its a good time for playing in the garden
Wol Euler: reading "crazy rich asians"
Aphrodite Macbain: too much news
arabella Ella: Has anyone seen the supermoon tonight, I just looked outdoors, it is amazingly huge!
Eden Haiku: I will miss the deer...I noticed more blue jays and cardinals in Montreal, now that the planes are much rarer and trafic is almost non-existent, That's nice :)
Riddle Sideways: blinging ALL of Netflix
Mickorod Renard: it woke me up at 4am
Aphrodite Macbain: wow
Catrinamonblue Resident: It's cloudy where I am Ara :(
Mickorod Renard: too bright
Eliza Madrigal: was wondering whether the sky was so clear due to less pollution, or if I'm imagining it/imposing it...
Bleu Oleander: super moon is amazing here
arabella Ella: it is so huge and bright I could nearly reach out and touch it!
Bruce Mowbray: No, it is a supermoon.
Eliza Madrigal: see more stars at night, or am I just walking slower
Lucinda Lavender: I watch the office at night with my husband because it makes us laugh and then I watch Korean and Japanese shows:)
Eliza Madrigal: Ah, nice Ara! Can't wait for the night time
Eliza Madrigal: :) watch Korean tv too
Mickorod Renard: I read that during the lockdown in china thousands of children were saved from polution deaths
Wol Euler: the air is definitely clearer here, I can smell the difference
Santoshima Resident: reading ... [ book title deleted, was on page 4, now half way through and am leaving the cult of admiring the author, now ... , it is too trashy to be worth giving the title ... ], and watching brighter stars over the city
Eden Haiku: Yes Ara the pink moon was extraordinary yesterday night. Only 4 pm here now :)

Is it a reading club?

Eliza Madrigal:Any sense where everyone would like PaB to fit in, or... how... or....?
arabella Ella: i wonder why it is called pink?
Santoshima Resident: because it is pink :)
Lucinda Lavender: the book I have going is the Good Neighbor- about Fred Rogers.
arabella Ella: ehrm ok
Bruce Mowbray: 4:23 on East Coast of America right now
Bleu Oleander: good question Eliza
Lucinda Lavender: the angle of light?
Santoshima Resident: yes
Bleu Oleander: it does feel nice just being here
Wol Euler: this is a calming place for me
Wol Euler: yes bleu
Santoshima Resident: it does
Lucinda Lavender: the pause is essential now
Aphrodite Macbain: what is san? Murakami. [... title name deleted ... ],
Santoshima Resident: Bleu asked, what are people reading, watching, Aph
Eden Haiku: Yes Eliza, about your question. About the jewel which is PaB...
Aphrodite Macbain: what is Murakami [... title name deleted ... ],?
Bruce Mowbray: I am reading Tara Brach's "Raddical Acceptance."
Santoshima Resident: a book
Mickorod Renard:is it a reading club?
Santoshima Resident: author. title
Bruce Mowbray: Radical*
Aphrodite Macbain: about?
Santoshima Resident: Haruki Muakami is the author
Catrinamonblue Resident:so many conversations overlapping :) we are all so eager to see/hear each other :)
Wol Euler smiles.
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Bruce Mowbray listens.
Aphrodite Macbain: ah thank you
Wol Euler loves Murakami
Eliza Madrigal also
Santoshima Resident: [... title name deleted ... ], is the title. about. ... [ some sort of publishing coup? ... it's incredible that it was published and lauded even ... it's maybe about the influencial clout of the author, ... anything that he writes will be published and scooped up by the public ...  that outline also describes the story of the novel ...] imagination perhaps [ ... the author testing the public's and publisher's sycophantic adoration, maybe? ... ]
Riddle Sideways: yes, Cat. just like the old times
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Aphrodite Macbain: or IQ?
Bleu Oleander: I'm reading "how to be an Artist" by Jerry Saltz "until the End of Time" by Brian Greene
Santoshima Resident: no
Aphrodite Macbain: I'm reading the life of trees
Santoshima Resident: 1 (one) not I (sounds like eye) [... but now having read it ... at least, that is half of the 900+pages, it's safe to say, yes, Aph: IQ 84 , it's bullshit writing ... ]
Bruce Mowbray: Brian Greene is great.
Bleu Oleander: great book Bruce
Bruce Mowbray: Trees are also great.
Aphrodite Macbain: smiles and nods
Eden Haiku: I'm reading "La vie unanime: by Jules Romains. Written in 1902-1908 and it is amazing how it talks about the feeling of oneness we have with the whole world now, due to this pandemic.
Mickorod Renard: I am reading Thomas Hardy, I am going rural and back in time
Bruce Mowbray: I have Greene's "Fabric of the Cosmos"
Bleu Oleander: also re-read "the machine stops" by EM Forster ... doing a salon on the book this month
Bruce Mowbray: Which of his books?
Bruce Mowbray: I LOVE Thomas Hardy.
Almadi Masala: I am reading a collection of vintage science fiction novels ... pure escapism
Mickorod Renard: I have a real thick book with his short stories
Mickorod Renard: Bruce
Eliza Madrigal: Am reading, very slowly, a series called Kindly Bent to Ease Us , and a book I heard about from you Eden... conscious collapse... something like that, which I just received (cheery :P)
Bruce Mowbray: Ahhh!
Santoshima Resident: reading this list, great books!
Lucinda Lavender: Luci is going to sit here but take a call from her daughter:)
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Wol Euler waves to Luci's daughter
Aphrodite Macbain: say hello to her from us Luci
Eden Haiku: Ah yes "Conscious collapsing" Eliza, I have been returning to it. Reminds us to rememeber what we are still grateful about :)
Bleu Oleander: so many great books to read nowbut oddly enough don't have as much time to read :)

--BELL--

Our sense of time

Wol Euler: yes
Aphrodite Macbain: I have more time but spending doing unimportant things :(
Wol Euler: I am surprised at how little "spare time" I have now, compared to before
Eliza Madrigal: I'm looking forward to it, but have discovered that when we're all home here sharing space, I have no comfy place to settle in for hours
Eliza Madrigal: may resort to the car :)
Bleu Oleander: haha
Bruce Mowbray nods.
Wol Euler: it feels like I have the same or less amount of time, even though I'm working less and not travelling to work and back
Eliza Madrigal: I wonder why
Eden Haiku: Same feeling here; less time...Weird isn't i?
Wol Euler: my theory is that existential dread and despair are eating up my sense of time
Bleu Oleander: video chats seem to gobble up a lot of time
Catrinamonblue Resident: It feels that way for me too sometimes Wol. Hard to explain exactly
Mickorod Renard: when you retire its the same, like the saying I never knew how I had time to work
Eden Haiku: Sounds good theory Wol ...
Aphrodite Macbain: What are you dreading Wol? Catching the virus?
Eliza Madrigal: coping with the lack of normalcy
Riddle Sideways:all of us going through the stages of mourning
Wol Euler: there is a certain amount of visceral fear, yes, because I am in the at-risk group
stevenaia Michinaga: I can identify, new normal
Wol Euler: through age and my weak lungs
stevenaia Michinaga: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uT3SBzmDxGk&feature=share&fbclid=IwAR0437w63k6ufOpSi2jBg6F3SKOZXxo2rfihjQPDILgHFWguQRhs4T1jhG0
Eliza Madrigal nods Riddle
Aphrodite Macbain: Should we go to Xiris's opening?
Wol Euler: this is paradoxically the first time in many years that I haven't had a severe cold or flu during the winter
arabella Ella: I feel that the uncertainty and the fact that we have no idea how long this will last eats at us too
Eden Haiku: Stages of mourning, yes, Riddle, that's what it is...
Riddle Sideways: no, go to exhibit when not a crowd there
Aphrodite Macbain: smiles- perhaps you are being more careful Wol
Wol Euler: mostly I fear the decline and fall of society
Santoshima Resident: > Wol : not as exposed to as many people?
arabella Ella: I feel your fear and concerns Wol
Wol Euler: and I mourn in advance the many many small and tiny businesses that will not survive
Wol Euler: my neighborhood will be decimated
Eden Haiku: Washing your hand more than usually Wol:)
Bleu Oleander: yes Wol
stevenaia Michinaga: nods
Aphrodite Macbain: scary stuff indeed
Aphrodite Macbain: I fear the unknown
Riddle Sideways: am spending time between zoom calls binge watching YouTubes. thanks Stev
Aphrodite Macbain: and the lack of leaders who know what to do
Bleu Oleander: haha Aph, the known might do us in
Eden Haiku: The way the little shops organize is a wonder to watch. Many are making deliveries now.
Eliza Madrigal: or only know what to do s serve themselves
Aphrodite Macbain: yes
Mickorod Renard: Boris knows, he has booked into hospital early
Wol Euler: watching America slide into a fascist kleptocratic dictatorship is also deeply upsetting
Eliza Madrigal: that's probably what I struggle with most these days... continual anger
Bleu Oleander: tell us about it Wol !!
Wol Euler: hehehe I know I know
Wol Euler: I just watch, you poor people have to live it
Eliza Madrigal: again, up for adoption :)
Bleu Oleander: :)
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Riddle Sideways: ;}
Eliza Madrigal: I just have a few other people... and a really cute dog...
arabella Ella: Wol there are lots of online performances that can take your mind off these things, Sunday at 7pm CET for example Andrea Bocelli sings in the empty Milan Duomo on his YouTube page!
Catrinamonblue Resident: I do have a finished basement with a room and bathroom ;)
Bleu Oleander: dogs are saving us!
Eliza Madrigal: :))
Wol Euler smiles.
Eden Haiku: We are so lucky in Quebec to have a Prime Minister with empathy who gives a press conference on TV for almost one hour everyday since March 12th. His level of approval is amazing: 88% of us trust him. But people are dying and it is scary...
Riddle Sideways: the SPCA shelters are empty of pets
Aphrodite Macbain: I wonder what he will sing
Wol Euler reads back. "continual anger", yeah...
Almadi Masala: New York is lucky to have governor Cuomo
Aphrodite Macbain: Poor New York
Mickorod Renard: :)
Riddle Sideways: Cuomo is doing great
Adams Rubble: NY is a mess and NJ not far behind
Bleu Oleander: NYC so sad
Bleu Oleander: yes NJ too
arabella Ella: yes very sad about what is happening in NY despite Cuomo's best efforts
Adams Rubble:Our governor is not as national as Cuomo but doing a very good job
Bruce Mowbray: Ohio is very lucky to have Gov. DeWine - ours was the second state to lock down.

Wondering how PaB will come out of this tunnel

Catrinamonblue Resident: I am going to have to go my dears, I am very tired and need to rest a bit. I hit burn out with too much work and let things go too long. I am grateful for the time I will now have to recuperate.......
Bleu Oleander: have many family there including a cousin in ICU
Wol Euler nods.
Bleu Oleander: nice to see you Cat!
Adams Rubble: I go through periods where I doubt that we will survive this
Wol Euler: take care, Cat, and stay healthy
Catrinamonblue Resident: bye for now my loves
Santoshima Resident: bye Cat
Bruce Mowbray: Take care, Cat.
stevenaia Michinaga: Bye Cat
Adams Rubble: bye Cat
Aphrodite Macbain: take care Cat
Eliza Madrigal: Bye Cat, hugs!
Mickorod Renard: bye Cat
Riddle Sideways: bye Cat, be safe and happy
arabella Ella: bye Cat
Wol Euler: the society that comes out the other end of this tunnel will look quite different
Adams Rubble: I am fortunate that I have learned here to take things day by day and wake up knowing today is a gift
Bleu Oleander: anyone want to drop in on Xiri's opeing?
Wol Euler: and getting from here to there is going to be messy and painful
Eliza Madrigal: yes Wol, that's both the fear and hope
Eden Haiku: Bye Cat, it was nice to see you here :)
Mickorod Renard: Adams, yes I agree
stevenaia Michinaga: It’s a great show
Eliza Madrigal: I'm up for going to Xiri's opening :)
Bleu Oleander: it is!
Mickorod Renard: I think lag will get me at the opening
Santoshima Resident: I'll like to see the show, but not the opening, too many people = lag
Wol Euler: when will it start?`
Santoshima Resident: started at 1
Bleu Oleander: La Maison d'Aneli , Virtual Holland (10, 77, 3513) - Moderate
Eliza Madrigal nods... maybe better to wait then until after the first hour
stevenaia Michinaga: an hour ago
Mickorod Renard: I have to do social distancing with this laptop
Eliza Madrigal: that's busiest?
Almadi Masala: I will wait and catch the show another time
Adams Rubble: tomorrow morning for the 7 am session we will be meeting at the museum instead of here
Eden Haiku: Will go some other time...
stevenaia Michinaga: let's fill it up
Riddle Sideways: wondering how PaB will come out of this tunnel ㋡
Eden Haiku: Me tooo...
Eliza Madrigal: me too Riddle... have been musing with the question this week
Riddle Sideways: any thoughts from the musings
Eliza Madrigal: looking forward to hearing others' sensibilities because I can't say I've clarified my own
stevenaia Michinaga: see you next week?
Eliza Madrigal: :)
stevenaia Michinaga: off to the show
Santoshima Resident: bye Steve
Eden Haiku: I think Wester's way of calling PaB "a jewel" is great. But what to do with it?
Mickorod Renard: bye steve
Wol Euler: bye steve, take care
Eliza Madrigal: Bye Stevie... tell Xiri many will come soonish when lag wanes
Eden Haiku: Bye Steve
Bleu Oleander: jewels come in many shapes and colors ...
arabella Ella: bye Steve
Eliza Madrigal: (please)
Adams Rubble: bye Steve
Eliza Madrigal: Maybe 'what' is the jewel, is one question
stevenaia Michinaga: looking for address
Eden Haiku: The stooping for 9 seconds every 15 minutes is the core of it maybe?

--BELL--

Riddle Sideways: the love of typos
Aphrodite Macbain: it's precious and beautiful
Bleu Oleander: for me its the connections and sharing of ideas
Bleu Oleander: and art shows LOL
Wol Euler: when you look over other ways and places that people meet, our tolerance and gentleness is quite astonishing, and precious
Eden Haiku: And we have been talking (at least I have) despite the bell's prompting us to stop for 90 seconds, like excited children :)
Eliza Madrigal: appreciation of Being as discovered through pauses and typos and sharing of ideas
arabella Ella nods
Eliza Madrigal: :)) Eden
Eliza Madrigal: tolerance and gentlness... benefit of the doubt
arabella Ella: also calmness
arabella Ella: serenity

Goodbyes

Mickorod Renard: please excuse me but I am off for a wander. I need to learn how to do stuff again
Riddle Sideways: lightly
Wol Euler: calmness as strategy
Santoshima Resident: time to feed the cats, see you next week !
Santoshima Resident: bye Mick bye everyone
Bleu Oleander: bye Mick take care
arabella Ella: bye Mick, San!
Adams Rubble: I must run too
Eliza Madrigal notices Mick's hoopoe short
Wol Euler: bye san, bye mick, stay healthy
Wol Euler: bye adams
Eliza Madrigal: Bye to those who must go :)
Wol Euler: love to all
Riddle Sideways: have a nice wonder
Adams Rubble: stay safe everyone
Santoshima Resident: see you next week
Bleu Oleander: hugs to all
Mickorod Renard: ty will do, I will be around here somewhere
Aphrodite Macbain: waves
Eden Haiku: Bye Mick, bye Adams :)
Santoshima Resident: connection is enough reason. sending love ~

Next week?

Eliza Madrigal: As a practical matter, I'm not sure I'm ready to commit to being here every week yet...
Riddle Sideways: yes, San
Eliza Madrigal: but for a few weeks, yes
Eden Haiku: Not sure either ...
Bleu Oleander: take care all ... off to check out Xiri's opeing ... love that we're connecting again ... hugs everyone
Eden Haiku: For a few weeks yes, also :)
Riddle Sideways: awwww, at least you got others here, Eliza
arabella Ella: bye Bleu
Eliza Madrigal: Bye Bleu, see you there soon perhaps
Bleu Oleander: kk
Riddle Sideways: by Bleu
Bleu Oleander: will try to make this time if I can
Almadi Masala: I have to attend to RL for a bit ... great to see you all
Eliza Madrigal: Great to see you, Alma!
Eden Haiku: Bye Alma :)
arabella Ella: bye Alma!
Wol Euler: bye alma
Lucinda Lavender: i will try!
Eliza Madrigal: I love and miss PaB, but there were reasons I stepped back from hosting for a while.. am hoping to find further clarity from others, what is wanted/needed/wished for even
Wol Euler nods.
Aphrodite Macbain: Bye everyone
Eden Haiku: Nods
Aphrodite Macbain: gotta go
Eliza Madrigal: Bye Aph :)
Wol Euler: bye aph
arabella Ella: bye Aph!
Eden Haiku: Bye Aph
Riddle Sideways: bye aph
Eden Haiku: Bye Aph
Riddle Sideways: is hard because never put expectations on PaB, just showed up
Riddle Sideways: and sometimes magic happened
Riddle Sideways: or an expoloration

arabella Ella nods
Eliza Madrigal: your open-heartedness, easy goingness
Eden Haiku: Yes, magic . Sometimes :)
arabella Ella loves magic!
Wol Euler: I came because of Pema and stayed because of the rest of you, ya lovely bunch of nutters
Eliza Madrigal grins
arabella Ella: he he
Eden Haiku: Riddle might be on something here: isn't about showing up?
Wol Euler: I miss Pema
Riddle Sideways: even misreading a typo and gumbled order of chat can bring gems to the surface in oneself
Eliza Madrigal nods
arabella Ella: I miss Pema too
Wol Euler: I miss his challenge
Wol Euler: that's not the right word
arabella Ella: Seeing being and being seeing!
Riddle Sideways: yes
arabella Ella: Pema used to 'push' out thinking in interesting directions
Wol Euler nods.
Eliza Madrigal nods
arabella Ella: and Storm too
Riddle Sideways: thanks Wol,
Eliza Madrigal: I lost a bit of the 'just show up' feeling along the way... because... scheduling and posting and things that got a little heavier for me as time went on... even though I kept whittling down the little tasks
Eliza Madrigal: it felt like others could just show up... but I couldn't...
Wol Euler: yes, eliza, a huge and unfair amount of work devolved onto your shoulders
Eliza Madrigal: even though, and definitely in some cases, others were doing as much
Wol Euler: and I'm sorry that we let that happen
Eden Haiku: Yes, that became time-consuming and less fun...
Eliza Madrigal: I used to love that work but somehow the momentum lagged, or I lost confidence or something
Eliza Madrigal: am still working on finding that again
Riddle Sideways: you took on tooooo much
Wol Euler nods.
arabella Ella: you did take on too much and four sessions a day were a bit too much over a relatively long period of time!
Eden Haiku: ((((Eliza)))))
Eliza Madrigal: Then we meet again and it feels so good though! And I feel also, this timing is something special
Wol Euler: yes
Eliza Madrigal: It isn't the same world, even now
Eden Haiku: yes
Wol Euler: there is something special about doing this *now*
arabella Ella nods
Wol Euler: during the season of the plague
Eden Haiku: True
Riddle Sideways: the way it should feel
Eliza Madrigal: maybe this jewel is especially important now
Eden Haiku: WE are all in the same boat now, truly
Eliza Madrigal: this presence we share
Eliza Madrigal: yes
Eden Haiku: That this jewel is important now, I think, is very real
Eden Haiku: But how, I have no idea
arabella Ella: does there have to be an answer to how? at this moment in time?
Eliza Madrigal: right... that's the feeling...

--BELL--

Eden Haiku: Right Arabella, the question might be quite enough
Riddle Sideways: Like that really nice dream a couple nights ago, that did NOT get analyzed. just watched
Riddle Sideways: it is quite enough
Wol Euler smiles.
Eliza Madrigal: Hm, it feels like we've been operating without that answer.. so have been looking for that vision... but, you're right...
Eden Haiku: care to share Riddle?
arabella Ella: let things be
Riddle Sideways: nope
Eden Haiku: ;)
Eden Haiku: During the pause, I went back to my first session back on November 2 2008. I had the feeling my recently deceased mother was sitting among us. Mickorod said she might be. And others around the circle agreed. I had the feeling I had met my tribe :)
Wol Euler: nice :)
arabella Ella: owwww lovely :)
Eliza Madrigal: precious
Eden Haiku: It was 2009 rather
Eliza Madrigal: feeling of safety and belonging? The playfulness was a big part for you too, wasn't it?
Eden Haiku: Yes, but that first session it was meeting people who "saw"/felt my mother sitting with us as I did;) Their empathy for my loss.
Eliza Madrigal: amazing, that can come through and be felt, like this
Lucinda Lavender: I am back.
Wol Euler: wb
Eliza Madrigal: wb Luci :)
Eden Haiku: We might need empathy for our losses these days
Riddle Sideways: Then Eden would come to other session and have that same empathy for us all

Anticipatory grief

Wol Euler: "anticipatory grief" is a phrase I heard recently
Lucinda Lavender: yes
Eliza Madrigal: vulnerability, humanity
Eden Haiku: yes
Eliza Madrigal: yes
Eliza Madrigal: Quite a phrase, Wol :(
Wol Euler: indeed
Lucinda Lavender: can you describe what is meant by anticipatory grief
Riddle Sideways: wow, a new stage of mourning
Wol Euler: already mourning the feared losses to come
Eden Haiku: Crying sometimes for losing people I even never heard of before. Some old lady who died of COVID 19 at 104 years old today. She wrote her 1st book when she was 80 and it was a great book.
Eliza Madrigal: wow, that's so sad... and beautiful
Eden Haiku: Or just someone's aunt, a father, a son...
arabella Ella: very sad
Riddle Sideways: a folky named John Prine
Lucinda Lavender: I kind of have a hard time getting to grief
Eden Haiku: The young Chinese doctor in Wuhan: she died at 29...
arabella Ella: I've got to be off bye everyone lovely to see you all here!
Eliza Madrigal: bye Ara, lovely to see you
Riddle Sideways: by Ara
Wol Euler: bye ara, take care, stay healthy
Eden Haiku: Bye Ara :)
Lucinda Lavender: I am sort of slow to respond...tho when my conductor died it was very real
Eden Haiku: oh no, Luci...
Riddle Sideways: oh
Eden Haiku: So sorry...
Lucinda Lavender: That was back in 2010
Lucinda Lavender: brother just died in February but i don't feel sad really
Lucinda Lavender: that sounds weird I know
Lucinda Lavender: his life was so seriously curtailed
Lucinda Lavender: I think maybe I am still in a daze?
Lucinda Lavender: perhaps
Wol Euler nods.
Eden Haiku: Maybe all these people dying in this pandemic, everyday, everywhere need a breathing space on their journey and this place could be, for some of them. Before they keep going though the doors of death...
Wol Euler: very possible
Eliza Madrigal: dissociation is natural to some extent... I have a delay about some things too.. then it sneaks up
Lucinda Lavender: knowing what is real is kind of a challenge
Riddle Sideways: in the Days of Daze
Lucinda Lavender: maybe I keep my self in a denail of sorts
Lucinda Lavender: denile
Lucinda Lavender: :)
Eden Haiku: Days of Daze, yes...
Lucinda Lavender: Denali would be fun tho
Wol Euler: "it is what it is"
Eliza Madrigal: I like acknowledging what is happening, trying to keep in mind that processing is more than appears on the surface
Eden Haiku: Such a musical ear Riddle :)
Eliza Madrigal: I seem to have friends who want to 'keep vibes up' and be positive all the time, but I think we have to expand capacity to do both.... holding what is happening and also opening it all up somehow
Eden Haiku: Days of Daze and Denial Luci :)
Wol Euler: yes
Lucinda Lavender: what always makes me cry is hearing children sing

--BELL--

And they laughed at SL

Wol Euler: I had a bit of a breakdown after two weeks of keeping the vibe up
Riddle Sideways: tonight's (afternoon west coast) virtual Seder will be sad and wonderful. A table for two. Shared with almost 100 guests
Wol Euler: spent a day in bed wanting to cry
Riddle Sideways: oh Wol
Wol Euler: now I give myself permission to be pessimistic :)
Eliza Madrigal: :(
Wol Euler: realistic
Wol Euler nods to Riddle
Eliza Madrigal: permission to grieve
Eden Haiku: Emotional collapsing, yes, Wol... that is part of it...
Wol Euler: I've been eavesdropping on people setting those up
Riddle Sideways: Virtual funerals, weddings, services, family meetups. And they laughed at SL
Eliza Madrigal: envious of those finding ways to keep rituals going now :)
Wol Euler nods.
Lucinda Lavender: I am holding out some hope to visit my daughter this summer after her baby is born. Due May. if we are not allowed to it may be very sad.
Eliza Madrigal: Aw, yes
Riddle Sideways: video chats with new grandson are not quite the same as holding
Lucinda Lavender: but I think it is the thought that takes one to the place of sadness.
Eliza Madrigal: babies are such a wonderful reminder that the world goes on
Lucinda Lavender: thank goodness for the video chat
Riddle Sideways: was 3 months old on the 5th
Eliza Madrigal: awwww
Eliza Madrigal: Congratulations, belated, Riddle :)
Lucinda Lavender: lovely Riddle!
Wol Euler smiles.
Eden Haiku: yes Luci, a real sad possibility of missing this. Humanity is wearing a crown of thorns these days...
Riddle Sideways: hmmm, just got a yell that the shower is mine. Does that mean I need one?
Eliza Madrigal: haha
Lucinda Lavender: so time get's figured in to the sadness because I get to being in the not present
Riddle Sideways: "in the not present"
Eliza Madrigal: makes total sense, Luci
Eliza Madrigal: time is the weirdest thing these days
Eden Haiku: So you are a granddad now Riddle ? Wonderful!@
Riddle Sideways: yep
Lucinda Lavender: how far away is he?
Eden Haiku: And happy Seder and Passover. And Easter for others :)
Eliza Madrigal: Should go see Xiri now.... then maybe shower is in order for me too... have to find unemployment forms... yada yada
Riddle Sideways: Boulder
Lucinda Lavender: Nice
Wol Euler sighs.
Lucinda Lavender: Thank you Eliza!
Wol Euler: good luck, dear eliza
Eliza Madrigal: Have beautiful holidays everyone :)
Riddle Sideways: Being Sent to the Showers
Riddle Sideways: thank you for this
Riddle Sideways: and your time
Eden Haiku: Thank you for hosting sweet Eliza and good luck with all the paperwork...
Wol Euler: I'll see you at Xiri's show in a bit
Wol Euler: goodnight all
Riddle Sideways: by All
Wol Euler: stay healthy
Eliza Madrigal: thanks you lovely loving appreciative kind-hearted people... have to find address
Eden Haiku: Bye Wol, take care, bye Riddle, Eliza :)
Eliza Madrigal: Be safe and happy
Wol Euler: _/|\_
Eden Haiku: Bye Luci :)
Lucinda Lavender: bye for now:)
Eden Haiku: See you guys next week :)
Eliza Madrigal: :))
Lucinda Lavender: Thanks to all!
Eliza Madrigal: lol I've forgotten how to do everything
Lucinda Lavender: me too!
Eliza Madrigal: hahaha
Eden Haiku: Bye (((Eliza))) Be gentle with yourself.... Love you :)))
Eliza Madrigal: Love you
Eliza Madrigal: (((Eden))))
Eliza Madrigal: Am trying :)