2020.11.11 13:00 - The Form of Mick

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Agatha. The comments are by Agatha.

    Qt Core: Hi Aph
    Aphrodite Macbain's current display-name is "Aph".
    Aphrodite Macbain: oops
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hi Qt
    Aphrodite Macbain: how are you doing
    Qt Core: quite good in a crazy word, you ?
    Aphrodite Macbain: same same
    Aphrodite Macbain: I feel very isolated from everyone
    Aphrodite Macbain: I get my groceries delivered
    Aphrodite Macbain: and mainly communicate via the nternet
    Qt Core: i still go shopping for them, trying to go at less crowded time
    Aphrodite Macbain: Internet
    Aphrodite Macbain: nods
    --BELL--
    Aphrodite Macbain: I wear masks in rh shops
    Aphrodite Macbain: the
    Qt Core: that is mandatory here, basically everywhere outside your home
    Aphrodite Macbain: not so much here. We can still walk around doutdoors without masks provided there aren't lots of people
    Aphrodite Macbain: Indoors we always wear maaaaaaasks
    Aphrodite Macbain: and masks
    Qt Core: only if doing sport outside here with doubled distancing
    Qt Core: you can lower your mask, still mandatory having one in your pocket/ourse
    Qt Core: *purse
    Aphrodite Macbain: ah
    druth Vlodovic: hey
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hi druth
    Qt Core: hi Druth
    druth Vlodovic: you were right it is a pagoda
    Aphrodite Macbain: :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: or a pergola?
    druth Vlodovic: for some reason I keep thinking of pillars and climbing vines
    Aphrodite Macbain: Qt we were wondering why this place is called a pavilion
    druth Vlodovic: pergolas look like those just roofs things
    Aphrodite Macbain: I'm not sure what a pavilion is
    Aphrodite Macbain: according to the Wili - it has square sides
    Aphrodite Macbain: gazebos are round
    Qt Core: surely not a pergola, that is a more siple thing, usually with some climbing plants on it
    Aphrodite Macbain: As it has an onion dome, I dont know what to call it
    Qt Core: and not hight
    druth Vlodovic: I was right, a paviion is a circus tent
    Aphrodite Macbain: Yes Qt and it's square
    druth Vlodovic: did they ever meet in a circus tent?
    Aphrodite Macbain: a gazebo has plants climbing on it but it's round
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hiya Mik
    druth Vlodovic: hi Mik
    Qt Core: hi Mickorod
    Mickorod Renard: Hi
    Aphrodite Macbain: Have you grwn facial hair? I dont remember that
    Mickorod Renard: who me? yaes
    Aphrodite Macbain: Off sets the bald head
    Mickorod Renard: I had a bit of a slip up and lost my body
    Aphrodite Macbain: :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: Mikk - what would you call this structure?
    druth Vlodovic: https://imgur.com/t/rpg/3tfVHJJ?nc=1
    Mickorod Renard: so I paid out and bought a new one but I have no idea what to do to get it right
    Aphrodite Macbain: You seem to have found it
    Mickorod Renard: the structure Druth has sent?
    Aphrodite Macbain: the one we
    Aphrodite Macbain: sare in
    Aphrodite Macbain: are
    Aphrodite Macbain: why do we call it a pavilion?
    druth Vlodovic: lol, I was just reading about the new cyberpunk game and how they are doing the whole view of the human body in a world of plastic surgery
    druth Vlodovic: "I lost my body but I bought a new one" is going to stick with me for a bit
    Mickorod Renard: ah I see
    Aphrodite Macbain: You look fine Mik
    Qt Core: a brain, waking up in ts nutrienth bath a morning and the body, resting in the nearby bed is gone...
    Aphrodite Macbain: Mick
    Mickorod Renard: I dont know why it wasnt called a gazebo
    Mickorod Renard: thank you Aph
    Aphrodite Macbain: a gazebo is a structure in a garden with flowers growing ver it
    Aphrodite Macbain: very lightweight
    Mickorod Renard: a pavillion to me was always the hut for cricket players
    Qt Core: historical reason the ones before this were called pavillion too
    Aphrodite Macbain: made of wicker and stuff
    Aphrodite Macbain: Oh is that it QT?
    Qt Core: around here a gazebo does not require plants on it and it is often a temporary structure
    Aphrodite Macbain: "It was ALWAYS called a pavilion"
    Aphrodite Macbain: yes- light and temporary - no concrete or steele allowed
    Qt Core: for as much as i can remember yes
    druth Vlodovic: they had a teahouse but that wasn't pavilliony either
    Aphrodite Macbain: Right
    Qt Core: i come here after the teahouse
    druth Vlodovic: we have stone gazebos in parks for people to sit in or people to play music from
    Aphrodite Macbain: maybe it's just a pool and fountain
    Mickorod Renard: maybe it was a bought one and it was already called a pavillion
    druth Vlodovic: I only know of the teahouse because we broke it out for one of the anniversary parties
    --BELL--
    Mickorod Renard: yeh, I went there at the beginning
    Aphrodite Macbain: Our second anniversary I think
    Mickorod Renard: I was very new to sl at the time
    Aphrodite Macbain: me too
    Qt Core: i have thios strange lluck that prevent me from attending pab birthdays party, i think i got to be at only one in the last decade...
    Aphrodite Macbain: We had a fine party on Sunday
    Mickorod Renard: there was a good arts party the other day
    Aphrodite Macbain: wearing masks
    Mickorod Renard: snap
    Aphrodite Macbain: :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: Mine wasn't too protective
    druth Vlodovic: maybe we can take you to the gallery after and we can dance around
    Aphrodite Macbain: It covered my eyes
    Qt Core: (i remembered it 12 hours before it, thinking i have to go, then forgot it at the right time)
    Aphrodite Macbain: brb
    druth Vlodovic: lol, just noticed how modern your new av is Mick, with the beard and other accoutrements
    Mickorod Renard: for some reason my avi is a lil cloud
    druth Vlodovic: nah, she looks nice
    Aphrodite Macbain: bk
    Mickorod Renard: yes, I was really extravagant and bought a mesh
    druth Vlodovic: wb
    Aphrodite Macbain: That IS expensive
    Mickorod Renard: whatever a mesh is
    Aphrodite Macbain: I bought a mesh body but not a mesh head
    druth Vlodovic: I stick with the old old way, I avoid mesh and other newfangled technologies
    Mickorod Renard: I am wondering whether I should have done so
    Aphrodite Macbain: they are coming around to making the earlier versions of bodies but more mesh friendly
    Mickorod Renard: but I went somewhere the other day and all the avis were quite hi tech, I felt a bit out of it
    Aphrodite Macbain: Funny how important it is
    Aphrodite Macbain: tech envy!
    Aphrodite Macbain: I hate it when I dont look like me
    Mickorod Renard: I was showing my age he he
    Aphrodite Macbain: I pay far too much time dressing my avi
    Aphrodite Macbain: and adjusting its body
    Aphrodite Macbain: But I spend SO much time on line that I may as well look ok
    Aphrodite Macbain: Are u still babysitting Mick?
    Qt Core: i think the most i spent for my avi and clothing was 2 L$ (and it was a missclick) ;-)
    druth Vlodovic: I was reading a fictional setting description where the company that made everybody's clothing made very good quality clothes but changed style every six months
    Mickorod Renard: I am sure Aph, you triggered something in me at the party when you commented on my tshirt
    druth Vlodovic: I used to think that was silly, but now i think it would work
    Aphrodite Macbain: I hope it was good Mick
    Aphrodite Macbain: it encourages you to buy more druth
    Mickorod Renard: Aph, I decided I needed to change it..as I hadnt washed it in years
    Aphrodite Macbain: I have more clothes for my avi than I have in RL
    Aphrodite Macbain: lol
    druth Vlodovic: I am reasonably sure that I no longer own any jeans from high school,
    Aphrodite Macbain: I can no longer fit in jeans from 10 years ago
    Mickorod Renard: I had a dream once, showed in the dream sessions years ago..where I was in the 17c in france and I noticed even a poor peasant woman making clothes to meet the fashion
    druth Vlodovic: yeah, mine have started to shrink too
    Aphrodite Macbain: I wish we could get paid for the additional pounds we put on
    Mickorod Renard: I am still in the same size jeans I wore as a 20 yr old
    Aphrodite Macbain: wow
    Aphrodite Macbain: must be all the babysitting Micj=k
    Aphrodite Macbain: Mick
    Mickorod Renard: I use the size to regulate my diet and fitness regime
    Aphrodite Macbain: how?
    Mickorod Renard: if my pants start getting tight I eat less and do more sport
    druth Vlodovic: so now you know what you will look like in the afterlife
    Mickorod Renard: might not work soon as I am getting worn out
    --BELL--
    Aphrodite Macbain: You have more self control than I Mick
    Mickorod Renard: I presume I am lucky I can regulate it .I know lots who cannot for many reasons outside their control
    druth Vlodovic: funny, I do worry more about what my av looks like in SL (usually) than what I look like in public IRL
    Aphrodite Macbain: I just look at ice cream and put on 10 lbs
    Mickorod Renard: no, I am blessed in that way, but prob not in other ways
    Aphrodite Macbain: Do you druth?
    Aphrodite Macbain: There is more leeway to experiment in SL I guess
    druth Vlodovic: once upon a time I'd need to log in at least 15 min early to get ready to do anything in SL
    Mickorod Renard: I am not too worried what i look like but I dont want to keep buying new clothes..he he
    Aphrodite Macbain: I do that now :)
    druth Vlodovic: I can take you on a tour of freebie places that will make you sick of shopping
    Aphrodite Macbain: You did that when we first met druth
    Mickorod Renard: I had a right dificult job finding a cheap avi body
    Aphrodite Macbain: Our idea of a date was shopping in free places
    Qt Core: i often dream about buying clothes the Mark Zuckenberg way, ket say ten of each, all equal so you can just oopen the drawers and take one not having to look or choose
    Mickorod Renard: once u used to get stuff thrown at you
    druth Vlodovic: I finally laid out 800 lindens just for my skin
    druth Vlodovic: a shock to my system
    Aphrodite Macbain: al his clothes look the same.
    Mickorod Renard: not a bad idea Qt
    Aphrodite Macbain: wow druth
    Aphrodite Macbain: but it's nice skin
    Mickorod Renard: wow
    Mickorod Renard: druth, your extravagant too
    Aphrodite Macbain: short hair, black jeans and a tshirt
    druth Vlodovic: that is actually fairly cheap as bought skins go
    Mickorod Renard: good job the exhange rate is good here
    Aphrodite Macbain: lol
    Mickorod Renard: I think I paid 1200
    Mickorod Renard: I wept a little
    Qt Core: sometimes i thought about searching in rl for the clothes i wear here (i think i lack only the sweater
    druth Vlodovic: :-P
    Aphrodite Macbain: Sometimes I look for SL clothes in my RL closet
    Mickorod Renard: I had to haggle with myself over the price, a bit like with taxi drivers in india..and then accept its only a few pennies
    Aphrodite Macbain: yes
    Mickorod Renard: :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: I pay American dollars in Canadian currency
    Aphrodite Macbain: It's expensive
    Mickorod Renard: it is cheap entertainment here..by which I mean, cheaper than the pub or restaurants etc
    Aphrodite Macbain: and you dont catch COVID
    Mickorod Renard: thats v true
    Qt Core: and an avi last more than a pint or a steak
    Mickorod Renard: yeh
    Aphrodite Macbain: :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: I just miss the warm bodies
    Mickorod Renard: I have recently made friends at a bar on sl with a few slavic people, as they are all on lockdown
    druth Vlodovic: it is funny what you consider expensive or cheap, then you start comparing prices against different categories and everything goes sideways
    Mickorod Renard: this mesh came with a pair of jeans but they dont fit
    Mickorod Renard: I may ask bleu if she wants my password and take over my avi to sort it out
    druth Vlodovic: yeah, one thing I don't like about mesh is that the clothes replace your body, so it isn't really you anymore
    Agatha Macbeth's current display-name is "Agatha Soryu Shikinami".
    Agatha Macbeth: Evening all
    Aphrodite Macbain: Aggers!
    Mickorod Renard: ah, sounds like you understand it Druth
    druth Vlodovic: hi Aggers
    Mickorod Renard: Hi Ags
    Qt Core: hi Agatha
    Aphrodite Macbain: weeee're talking a bout bodies and diets and mesh
    druth Vlodovic: if we want a PaB spin on it we are talking body dismorphia and personal identity
    Agatha Macbeth: Yuk
    Aphrodite Macbain: lol
    Mickorod Renard: but before, if you had a pair of jeans u could alter the fit
    Aphrodite Macbain: We were admiring Mick's new mesh body
    Mickorod Renard: with mesh that seems impossible
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh right
    Aphrodite Macbain: Thanks Aggers
    druth Vlodovic: Mick got confused between his RL and SL avatar, he can modify the RL one but not his SL av
    Mickorod Renard: I cant see it cos its a cloud to me
    Mickorod Renard: ha ha
    Mickorod Renard: you set me off there Druth
    Agatha Macbeth: Think I prefer the old Mick
    Aphrodite Macbain: It's him down deep
    Mickorod Renard: what!..I spent 1200 lindens just to attract you Ags
    Agatha Macbeth: You were stung mate :p
    Aphrodite Macbain: wow
    Mickorod Renard: it came with a pair of jeans but they dont fit
    --BELL--
    Agatha Macbeth: Surprise
    Aphrodite Macbain: Interesting jeans
    Mickorod Renard: the ones I have on are my old ones
    Aphrodite Macbain: and you have breasts Mick
    Mickorod Renard: I shouldnt have
    Agatha Macbeth: It doesn't look quite the he-man Mick I know...a tad Ruthed
    Aphrodite Macbain: take a look
    Aphrodite Macbain: You can flatten them
    Agatha Macbeth: (Like I'm one to talk)
    Aphrodite Macbain: I think you are bi
    Mickorod Renard: as I cant see as I am a cloud to me I could look like anything
    Aphrodite Macbain: bi
    Mickorod Renard: maybe a zebra
    Agatha Macbeth: Bye Aph
    Mickorod Renard: he he
    Mickorod Renard: maybe i need to log in and out again
    druth Vlodovic: did you marry a Japanese Agatha? you're sporting a new last name
    Agatha Macbeth: Check your items worn or appearance, I'm sure you have a female shape on
    druth Vlodovic: don't worry we're open minded here
    Agatha Macbeth: This is the name of my heroine
    Aphrodite Macbain: we are all transforming in one way or another
    druth Vlodovic: heroine?
    Agatha Macbeth: Asuka
    Mickorod Renard: no, it def says male
    Agatha Macbeth: Wow
    Mickorod Renard: I think its a loggin in issue
    Agatha Macbeth: I think maybe you *are* ruthed
    Agatha Macbeth: Pop
    Aphrodite Macbain: where did Mick go?
    Agatha Macbeth: Either he crashed or relogged
    Aphrodite Macbain: I was taking a pic of him and he poofed
    Agatha Macbeth: He's camera shy
    Aphrodite Macbain: :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: since he can't see hislef
    druth Vlodovic: ah Evangelion, I never did figure out what they were trying to achieve
    Qt Core: headache i think
    Aphrodite Macbain: Evangelion?
    druth Vlodovic: I was trying to figure out Agatha's new name, I might have gotten it wrong though
    Aphrodite Macbain: Soryu Shikinami?
    druth Vlodovic: Evangelion is about giant monsters destroying toykyo being fought by giant robots while trying to build God
    Aphrodite Macbain: It's got a ring to it
    Mickorod Renard: hi, back again and still a cloud
    Aphrodite Macbain: I see druth,,,
    druth Vlodovic: I was clouded for months once
    Qt Core: ans still female form
    Mickorod Renard: flippin eck
    Mickorod Renard: it was fine earlier
    Aphrodite Macbain: He keeps leaving as I begin to focus
    Agatha Macbeth: Yes Aph
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh dear, poor Mick
    druth Vlodovic: ah, you must read the manga, I found the anime version too self centred and violent for my tastes
    Agatha Macbeth: Yes I have them all
    druth Vlodovic: but the series doesn't exactly have any heroes
    Agatha Macbeth: Giving it about 10 different endings didn't help mind
    Agatha Macbeth: The Japs seem to love doing that
    Agatha Macbeth: Same thing with X
    Aphrodite Macbain: Oh? I wonder why
    druth Vlodovic: I am convinced they don't actually have any copyright laws in that country
    Agatha Macbeth: WB Mick
    Agatha Macbeth: Looks that way
    Mickorod Renard: I am stuffed
    druth Vlodovic: perfect, now hold still for a few minutes, for...no reason at all
    Agatha Macbeth: Hello Stuffed
    Mickorod Renard: I might have to go away and start all over with a new avi
    Agatha Macbeth: I sometimes think mesh is more trouble than it's worth
    Mickorod Renard: might have to borrow morg
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh yay
    druth Vlodovic: go "me" "choose an avatar" and it'll reset you
    Agatha Macbeth: Would love to see her again
    druth Vlodovic: just remember where you put your current
    --BELL--
    Mickorod Renard: where do i write that druth
    Mickorod Renard: me
    druth Vlodovic: they are both menu nems
    Mickorod Renard: "me"
    druth Vlodovic: first menu on the top left, there should be an option for "choose your avatar" or under appearence to "ruth"
    druth Vlodovic: it just replaces your av with a basic one
    Mickorod Renard: ah ok ta
    Agatha Macbeth: You could just replace with any deault av in your inv
    Agatha Macbeth: Yes like that
    Agatha Macbeth: Now you look OK
    druth Vlodovic: I swear there used to be a miniature blimp
    Mickorod Renard: thanks Druth
    druth Vlodovic: ruthing does something extra and can fix a cloud situation
    Mickorod Renard: just gotta get rid of the hair
    Agatha Macbeth: You can find things on MP that you sit on to deruth you
    Mickorod Renard: thats a good idea
    Agatha Macbeth: Then just rez and sit
    Agatha Macbeth: Yay we have our old butch Mick back
    Mickorod Renard: whats mp?
    Agatha Macbeth: Marketplace
    Mickorod Renard: ah
    Mickorod Renard: doh
    Mickorod Renard: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Can find pretty much anything thereupon
    Mickorod Renard: Druth is clearly an expert avi maker
    Agatha Macbeth: You look rather green Druth
    druth Vlodovic: the library in your inventory is one of the most underutilized things in SL
    Agatha Macbeth: I dunno what the default females even look like these days
    Aphrodite Macbain: sorry I've been on the phone
    Agatha Macbeth: I remember mine had a t shirt and a beanie
    Aphrodite Macbain: You look amazing Mick!
    Agatha Macbeth: Doesn't look right with hair tho
    Mickorod Renard: this is a free basic one Aph
    Mickorod Renard: cant get the hair off
    druth Vlodovic: to change hair you need to get a bald cap
    Mickorod Renard: can u get razors on the mp?
    Agatha Macbeth: Or change the skin for your old one
    druth Vlodovic: basically just a hairpiece that has been modified to show none
    druth Vlodovic: no, the hair is a separate piece
    Mickorod Renard: my old new one?
    Agatha Macbeth: Yes
    Agatha Macbeth: With the beard
    Mickorod Renard: I wonder where that is
    druth Vlodovic: but pewople stopped using them almost immediately and made them out of prims
    Agatha Macbeth: It'll be in your inv somewhere
    Aphrodite Macbain: Must go. See you all later
    druth Vlodovic: search your inventory for "bald"
    Agatha Macbeth: TC Aphie
    druth Vlodovic: bye Aph
    Mickorod Renard: bye Aph
    Qt Core: bye Aph
    Mickorod Renard: I think I called myself mick something
    druth Vlodovic: heh, I haven't played in "library" in ages
    Agatha Macbeth: Good plan!
    Agatha Macbeth: Robomonkey
    Mickorod Renard: erm, nearly everything is called micks something
    druth Vlodovic: I think I have a new default :P
    Mickorod Renard: found it, but I may have no trouser son
    Agatha Macbeth: Transformers is alive and well it seems
    druth Vlodovic: it took me forever and many iterations before I got an av I was happy with when I first started
    Agatha Macbeth: I started editing my clothes second day I was here
    druth Vlodovic: you can find replacements if you think about where to look Mick
    Agatha Macbeth: Ended up in a leopardskin outfit
    druth Vlodovic: lol, I think I have a few of those
    --BELL--
    Agatha Macbeth watches Mick go into appearance mode
    druth Vlodovic: a fun way to pass time was to hang out at newbie places and help people orient themselves
    Mickorod Renard: oh dear, I have no idea what i am doing
    Agatha Macbeth: Looks that way :p
    druth Vlodovic: Barbie mode Ag
    Mickorod Renard: I misght have to slope away
    Agatha Macbeth: Fiddling with your appearance takes hours not minutes
    Agatha Macbeth: Not easy to do on the fly
    druth Vlodovic: you can practice irl in front of a mirror at home
    Mickorod Renard: he he
    Mickorod Renard: ok, I am going somewhere quiet
    Agatha Macbeth: A library?
    Mickorod Renard: in case my trousers disapear
    Agatha Macbeth: Donald where's yer troosers
    Agatha Macbeth: I'll try to come on time next week
    Agatha Macbeth: Tatty bye
    Mickorod Renard: bye
    druth Vlodovic: I'm going to head out too
    druth Vlodovic: have fun guys
    Mickorod Renard: I am spozed to be going sl clubbing
    Mickorod Renard: ok thanks Druth
    druth Vlodovic: oh? whereabouts?
    Qt Core: bye Druth
    Mickorod Renard: c u soon
    druth Vlodovic: "Don't miss it !!! Mix of Pop Rock Latin World & Oriental Music & Dances
    druth Vlodovic: there is something about the modern age lol
    Mickorod Renard: he he
    Qt Core: bye Mick, i hope you end up finding yourself ;-)
    Mickorod Renard: bye qt, cheers
    Mickorod Renard: take care

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    The second home of Play as Being, designed and built by Dakini, was a pavilion. Pema wrote an article with his wife about how the Japanese gathered together for poetry readings in pavilions. That experience was compared and contrasted with our Play as Being Second Life experience. When we moved into a third and fourth venues, we continued to refer to our meetings at the pavilion ignoring architectural terminology.
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