2021.08.17 07:00 - Time and Cliche

The Guardian for this meeting was Riddle Sideways. The comments are by Riddle Sideways.

Adams Rubble: Good morning Riddle :)
Riddle Sideways: good morning Adams ㋡
   --BELL--
Riddle Sideways: quietly at peace right now. like face cat, peaceful sitting looking off in some distance
Adams Rubble: :)
Adams Rubble: I am not all here
Adams Rubble: content to sit in peace
Riddle Sideways: good

Riddle Sideways: a bedside clock was 20 minutes behind all others this morning
Riddle Sideways: but it seemed not to be alarming
Riddle Sideways: or even a bother
Adams Rubble: I am behind all my clocks
Riddle Sideways: :)
Riddle Sideways: whichever meaning taken from that sentence
Adams Rubble: :)
Adams Rubble: I am about 90 minutes behind today
Riddle Sideways: might have that later, but seem right on time right now
Riddle Sideways: probably when I get to your time, will be behind
Adams Rubble: If I was on your time I would be early :)
Riddle Sideways: we should switch for a time

Riddle Sideways: some interesting thoughts in your blog; Few Thoughts
Riddle Sideways: on Mars the day is Almost the same length and would probably easily get used to it
Riddle Sideways: however, the length of a year, that does not have Seasons might not mean much
Riddle Sideways: just the 'oh another month has gone by'
Adams Rubble: we forget how much our time is dictated by the earths movements
   --BELL--
Adams Rubble: even the seasons dictated by the tilting
Adams Rubble: if we are on a different planet our experience would be so different
Riddle Sideways: Mars, without the atmosphere, gets winter every night
Adams Rubble: yes, atmosphere a different kettle of fish
Riddle Sideways: but, not so much difference between January and July
Adams Rubble: affects our life but not our sense of time
Riddle Sideways: or what ever the month names might be on Mars
Adams Rubble: the earth's movements are universal to all people of the world

Adams Rubble: unlike the foot which comes in different soizes
Adams Rubble: sizes
Adams Rubble: shhh
Riddle Sideways: funny, that All feet are exactly one foot long
Riddle Sideways: well, that one English King's foot became some standard length
Riddle Sideways: dictated
Adams Rubble: fie on kings

Riddle Sideways: your second 'thought' about the planets orbiting a sun being just like the electrons orbiting a nucleus, is something I think about a lot
Riddle Sideways: and seem to always have
Riddle Sideways: out to galaxys of suns
Adams Rubble: are there little creatures on the electrons saying "it is another day"
Adams Rubble: ohh, I don't know if elctrons spin
Riddle Sideways: into quarks wiggling around inside
Adams Rubble: there is so much outside of our daily consciousness right before our eyes
Riddle Sideways: editor might fact check; which of the sub-particals has spin
        Spin is a known word in English that everybody thinks they know what it means.
        Physicists, being the fun people they are, like to name very precise complex things by simple names and 'spin' is one of them.
        The thing named spin is really the total angular momentum that produces a tiny magnetic field and are in discrete quantized units.
      So, electrons do not spin, but they do have spin.

Riddle Sideways: might be the 'Strange' quarks or Charm
Riddle Sideways: love those names

Riddle Sideways: ok to think about Horton hearing a Who?

Riddle Sideways: in Jefferson Airplane's song "Eskimo Blue Day" there is the fav line "Doesn't mean shit to a tree"
   --BELL--
Riddle Sideways: so what the humans named stuff and taught to the next generation which discovered more stuff and named it, seems important only to the humans
Adams Rubble: and that is why awareness is not only our own; it is shared
Adams Rubble: well, one reason
Adams Rubble: we are all sensing the same stuff
Adams Rubble: seeing from different heights
Riddle Sideways: and in our arrogance, we think that only we think
Adams Rubble: maybe do not need the judgment: arrogance
Adams Rubble: we may be wired that way
Riddle Sideways: maybe other is wired that other way too
Riddle Sideways: all those very little string vibrating. Being wired their way

Adams Rubble: sorry to use a cliche
Adams Rubble: was trying to get at the idea of judging ourselves
Riddle Sideways: bringing different points of view
Riddle Sideways: (Again)
Adams Rubble: cliches bring out different reactions :)
Adams Rubble: you can lead a horse to a cliche but....
Adams Rubble: :)
Riddle Sideways: yes, had a long discussion on the tricks crossword puzzle clues bring
Riddle Sideways: The long and winding Cliche
Riddle Sideways: one gets out the slide-rule and declares the perfection of the ratios, mixes and proportions
Riddle Sideways: the next stands back and says "that is a mighty pretty picture"

Adams Rubble: and the king's foot (left or right?)
Riddle Sideways: ha, no politics please
Riddle Sideways: was the left right?
Adams Rubble: politics are sooooooooo empty
Riddle Sideways: that's what makes the world go round

Riddle Sideways: if you did not understand the cliche Grandpa spouted, he would follow it with yet another
   --BELL--
Adams Rubble: and now we are the grandparents
Riddle Sideways: oh dear
Adams Rubble: keep your head up
Riddle Sideways: should say "Yikes"
Riddle Sideways: ㋡
Adams Rubble: keepers of the royal cliches
Riddle Sideways: how did that happen?
Adams Rubble: they couldn't keep time in a bottle

Riddle Sideways: how many good songs would be gone if there were not cliches
Adams Rubble: :)
Adams Rubble: the answer my firend is blowin in the wind
Riddle Sideways: at some point, one starts wondering if "The King is dead, Long live the King" is really a cliche
Riddle Sideways: or just a good lyric
Adams Rubble: or another measure of time
Adams Rubble: only say "long live the king" to be on his good side

Riddle Sideways: ah, the sweet cliche. the spice of languages
Riddle Sideways: the reader needs to "read between the lines"
Riddle Sideways: just saying (hate that one)
Adams Rubble: words
Riddle Sideways: and their sharing
Adams Rubble: cliches are analagous to our lazy way of thinking about the reality around us
Adams Rubble: easier to picture the world as flat because we see people on our flat plain
Riddle Sideways: how about "ignorance is bliss" ㋡

Adams Rubble: when we get into thinking of relating to a round world things start to shift
Adams Rubble: now we can zoom with someone on the other side of the world who is getting ready for bed as we are preparing for breakfast

   --BELL--
Adams Rubble: they are not floating out there but they are beneath our feet
Adams Rubble: or our bottoms if we are sitting :)
Adams Rubble: and they think they are on the top of the world
Riddle Sideways: thanks for that image ㋡
Adams Rubble: and we are on the bottom
Adams Rubble: but all are clinging to the earth not far from space

Adams Rubble: the endless universe
Riddle Sideways: angels on the head of a pin
Riddle Sideways: the number of dimensions we bring to the conversation with our points of view
Riddle Sideways: that was a nice pause
    The log always has the inserted "--BELL--" not at the place in dialog that it happened

Riddle Sideways: and we have not even brought in the oddities SL has created
Riddle Sideways: you are 3 hours different
Adams Rubble: I must try to move on in this day :)
Riddle Sideways: yet you are right here
Adams Rubble: yes
Adams Rubble: and you are around a curve
Adams Rubble: so I could not see you with a telescope
Riddle Sideways: you are always ahead of me
Adams Rubble: well my day is :)
Riddle Sideways: thank you for getting a mind moving
Riddle Sideways: and a day going
Adams Rubble: I may be 21 hours behind you though
Adams Rubble: depending who gets to decide when it is a new day
Adams Rubble: ohh, I know, it was the king and his foot
Riddle Sideways: yep
Riddle Sideways: stuck his foot in it
Adams Rubble: and the queen lives on and on
Riddle Sideways: same as it always was
Adams Rubble: long live the queen

Adams Rubble: thank you for the session :)
Riddle Sideways: thank you
Riddle Sideways: by All
Adams Rubble: have a good day
Adams Rubble: bye