2021.10.28 07:00 - Prayer

    The Guardian for this meeting was Adams Rubble. The comments are by Adams Rubble.

     
    This is heavily edited in that a good bit of the beginning chat and a little bit of the end chat was left out.

     

    Riddle Sideways: back to wondering about the power of prayer
    Riddle Sideways: the influences of prayer
    Riddle Sideways: on keeping airplanes flying
    Adams Rubble: or certain airports making people religious
    Riddle Sideways: many religions in fervent prayer ㋡
    Adams Rubble: everyone on the plane landed safely
    Riddle Sideways: no scienific way to measure the effect
    --BELL--
    Adams Rubble: good way to put it :)
    Riddle Sideways: "But, it couldn't hurt" the old one said
    Adams Rubble: there is the effect of landing safely and then the effect on the people praying
    Riddle Sideways: was thinking about the effect of people praying
    Riddle Sideways: or not
    Adams Rubble: yes
    Adams Rubble: I was thinking there was the efeect on the life threatening issue
    Adams Rubble: but there is a completely different effect on the people praying
    Adams Rubble: what it does for them or to them
    Adams Rubble: feeling closer to God
    Riddle Sideways: perhaps those thoughts in some of why only now do I pray like I mean it
    Riddle Sideways: ok G-d, you and me, real close for the next few minutes
    Riddle Sideways: maybe next Sunday, one might remember a bit of the feeling
    Adams Rubble: sometimes people go through motions in practice and sometimes it really hots them--the fruits of labor
    Riddle Sideways: it was good they practiced and knew what to do
    Riddle Sideways: Practice make Perfect
    Riddle Sideways: when needed
    Adams Rubble: yes a great cliche that seems true :)
    Riddle Sideways: so faking it is still practicing ㋡
    Adams Rubble: I was about to say that Gid knows where the heart is but that would be a cliche
    Riddle Sideways: it weakens prayers from those that start with "Lord, I know you and I have not talked in a real long time, But ..."
    Riddle Sideways: good you did not say it then ㋡
    Adams Rubble: the prodigal son returns home to his father
    Riddle Sideways: the gates of prayer are always open
    Adams Rubble: the father rejoices and kills the fatted calf
    Riddle Sideways: the heart (and plane?) are lifted up by prayer
    Riddle Sideways: brb, keep cliches going ㋡
    Riddle Sideways: back
    --BELL--
    Riddle Sideways: travel across time zones always seems to bring up thoughts of prayer session at like 4am in some religions
    Riddle Sideways: wow! where would a phrase like "an ungodly hour" come from?
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Adams Rubble: Monday morning waking for work especially after clock put ahead
    Riddle Sideways: yes, almost alarm clocks
    Riddle Sideways: or the time when wolves, coyotes, dogs howl
    Adams Rubble: that is ringing a bell. Did I include them in a blog post this week?
    Riddle Sideways: the call to worship is always at a godly hour
    Riddle Sideways: not unless it was in today's
    Adams Rubble: no. I am trying to remember what it was from
    Adams Rubble: a quote
    Adams Rubble: ohh, it was in Dubs' talk I think
    Adams Rubble: In 1790 did a series called “Marriage of Heaven and Hell”. He wrote “If the doors of perception were cleansed everything would appear to man as infinite”. Destructive forces such as the roaring of lions, howling of wolves, raging of stormy seas and the destruction of the sword are too great for the eyes of man, until, that is, the eyes are cleansed. On the other hand, God is the great forbidder. Blake railed against the religions of “Thou shalt not”.

    The last sentence is misplaced in the paragraph above. Since it created discussion, I left in but I am embarrassed.

    Adams Rubble: i.e. Blake did the series
    Adams Rubble: this may be a bit problemmatical out of context
    Adams Rubble: Blake believed in non-dualism
    Riddle Sideways: hard to do 'Shalls' without defining 'Shalt nots'
    Riddle Sideways: and thus dualisms
    --BELL--
    Riddle Sideways: Thinking Alexandria was about cleansing and opening all eyes and seeing the infinite
    Riddle Sideways: yet, you who are but humble man, can not comprehend the infinity of G-d, so give that up
    Adams Rubble: hmmm. ouch
    Riddle Sideways: oh sorry
    Riddle Sideways: was thinking out loud
    Riddle Sideways: so many sides to thought
    Adams Rubble: my thought over break is that we are dealing with words and they don;t always convey the experience
    Riddle Sideways: so true
    Adams Rubble: sometimes people can be saying the same thing but it sounds different
    Riddle Sideways: "Cleansing" might have been a much better word when written those years ago
    Adams Rubble: ohh, I like cleansing :)))
    Adams Rubble: removing the blinders from our eyes
    Adams Rubble mixes some metaphors
    Riddle Sideways: seeing clearly
    Adams Rubble: OK, washing the dirt from ur eyes :)
    Adams Rubble: yes, seeing cleasrly
    Adams Rubble: or clearly :)
    Adams Rubble: removing the clouds from the sky
    Adams Rubble: I can see clearly now, the rain is gone....
    Riddle Sideways: snap! was just typing that ㋡
    Riddle Sideways: actually have "The Power of Love" - Huey Lewis(?) stick in ears from early session
    Riddle Sideways: even though we were talking of Prayer
    Adams Rubble: Many would think the two are connected
    Riddle Sideways: sometimes Many are correct ㋡
    Adams Rubble: :)
    --BELL--
    Adams Rubble: I hope yu have a great visit
    Riddle Sideways: Halloween and All Saints day are coming
    Adams Rubble: yes, very close
    Riddle Sideways: can bring religion to some
    Riddle Sideways: and happiness to others
    Adams Rubble: and candy to others :)
    Riddle Sideways: ㋡
    Adams Rubble: October 31 is celebrated as reformation Day in the Lutheran Church
    Riddle Sideways: Hope you don't over do the sugar high
    Adams Rubble: will coincide with reformation Sunday this year
    Riddle Sideways: Hoping many many do reform
    Adams Rubble: Sounds like a line from Garrison Keiler
    Adams Rubble: those Lutherans do need reforming :)
    Riddle Sideways: and see the emotions on the little one's faces
    Riddle Sideways: ㋡
    Riddle Sideways: ok, have the best Halloween reform that you can ㋡
    Adams Rubble: thank you. thank you for being here today
    Adams Rubble: and a great weekend
    Adams Rubble: bye for now

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